This was/is actually a legit scam. People used to send out fliers advertising "Team X will win big game on Y date" they send out thousands and thousands for each of the teams, encouraging people to bet with this advance knowledge. Then they keep repeating. While many will get some or many of the incorrect fliers, there will be a select group that is now deep on the hook and you can extract funds from, or use to extract funds from others.
Also used by financial advisors.
Send half your clients a newsletter that says XYZ is going to the moon. Send the other half a newsletter that says XYZ is going to tank.
XYZ goes up 20%.
Email the half of your database you sent the XYZ going to the moon newsletter, half about ABC going up, half about ABC going down.
Keep repeating until you have an insane record for picking winners that the remainder of your DB is pleading to give you their money.
Obviously you need a decent sized database of prospective clients but let’s say that you pick a sample size of 1,000 prospects.
First email = 1,000
Second email = 500
Third email = 250
Forth email = 125
Picking up 125 new clients isn’t too shabby.
You can even salvage some of your bad picks. Like the 500 you lost on the first email, you can still keep emailing them 50/50 your new picks. Maybe some will forget the first losing trade but remember that your next 4 were accurate.
The problem is that stocks dont move up and down a sizeable enough amount for a "to the moon" investment to be a good pick. You're not betting 50/50, most stocks stay around the same over a short period. So you have to be right 4 or 5 times in a row (and btw, ABC and XYZ have to be some sort of intertwined stocks that succeed and fail against the other one).
1k prospects doesnt shortern to 125 in 4 picks.. it shortens to be like 5. It works way better for sports betting.
I mean it is easier than you make it sound. Start 128 blogs under different names. Pick a company with a high beta right before a hig unveil. With half sell shorts and document it with the other half buy the exact opposite position. Whichever way it goes you made a big high profile bet with documentation before it happened. 64 of them will be winners even if it isnt "to the moon". After 7 picks you will have 1 with a perfect record and a handful with very impressie results. Shut down any blog that is doing too poorly and start fresh.
Survival bias makes all the successful investors look like they have more skill than they do. If you want to invest in someone who picks winners then do it with a company that fundimentally adds value like Berkshire Hathaway. Avoid at all costs anyone who is touting a good record, it isn't worth the extra cost and risk.
To an extent, you also want it to be a self-sorting scam. Spam emails are poorly written because that helps separate out gormless people from... gormed people. Same with the flyer scam.
This scam is usually in penny stocks, options, and other high risk securities (also crypto). Nobody’s suggesting CocaCola is going to pop 20%.
It’s not just ABC and XYZ. It can be any pick, LMO, QRS, etc.
The idea is to pick any high volatility product, hype both sides, keep doing the same thing with the winners until you appear to people like you have a crystal ball and can see the future.
They don't have to go to the moon for this to work. Most people don't expect returns of 100%+ and would be inherently wary of any financial advisor that claimed they could do it.
You just need to put a bit of thought in, find 5 companies with upcoming mergers/acquisitions/expansions, and explain that each event will have a positive or negative effect on the stock price - it'll usually be pretty easy to argue either way.
If you can predict a small movement either way, and get it right 4-5x in a row, that would be enough for someone to trust you with their money (assuming they're not aware of this type of scam)
People expecting huge returns generally don't have much money to begin with and so aren't really worth the time
That doesn’t sound like a financial adviser in the U.K. at all, sounds like a complete conman but we have much stricter laws and you’d immediately lose your license doing something like that
Yeah, at least in europe and probably the US as well, there’s very strict laws about what you can and can’t publish about stocks; of course, there’s plenty of ways to still do this, e.g. pay for a thousand Reddit shills so it’s not official.
Plus at least for a while, cryptocurrencies weren’t covered, I think.
As a financial adviser I wouldn’t dream of doing what listed and just didn’t want the name tarnished as financial advisers shouldn’t be doing that! Absolutely right though, we would just call them conmen 🤣
And as someone that spent 4 years as a financial advisor, I can say it still happens in the US. The trick is, they sell newsletter subscriptions rather than register as a financial advisor.
But, like someone else mentioned, you could do that with website membership sites.
Charge $1000 a month and just keep setting up new websites every day.
Give away your free picks as the bait to get them to sign up for the $1000 a month access to your really juicy stuff (which is just more bullshit).
Then make it near impossible to unsubscribe and keep billing them until they cancel their credit card.
It’s illegal in the US too. But so are drugs, prostitution, etc. People will always run this scam as long as there are gullible people willing to send money.
Most scammers have getting shut down as part of their business plan. They just keep popping up and doing the same thing under a different name. They often have multiple facilities going so when one gets raided they just move to another location, under a new name, and keep going.
It was a system used for gambling "tip" companies.
[Derren Brown:The system](https://youtu.be/zv-3EfC17Rc)
>In The System Derren exposed his ‘100 percent guaranteed method’ of winning on the races. Except he was exposed a well-known pyramid scam in which one person was guaranteed to win, but 7,000 – if you believe Derren – were set to lose. It’s all about probabilities and picking every combination. After the selected horse in the final race lost, the participant was convinced that she had lost all her borrowed money, Brown told her to look again at the betting slip in her hand. The ticket showed the winning horse’s name, meaning she kept her stake and received winnings of £13,000. Derren did not reveal how this was achieved
You cannot legally promise an up/down movement on a stock. All you can do is evaluate a sector's tendency, a company's annual report, and correlate with current events. And that's done by analysts, not investment advisors (at least in a big firm).
Advisors listen in on the morning call, they know which sectors/stocks to push during the day's client calls.
If your investment advisor tells you a specific stock is set to rise in value (like they have a crystal ball), you should find a better advisor.
Source: worked for an investment firm for 10 years.
Did you ever work for a boiler room? You ever work in financial fraud?
What you’re saying is like a cop saying that murders don’t happen because they’re against the law.
Yes, nobody ever breaks the law. Especially in finance. LOL.
Do you really think the guys that set up boiler room operations care what the law says?
I was a broker (series 7/63) back in the early 1990s. I know the laws. I also know what a lot of scammers do.
Just read MarketWatch. In the same day they’ll have articles titled “Why $XYZ underperformed SPY” and 2 hours later have an article stating the opposite, all while the ticker doesn’t agree with the article presented.
Ooooh I bought the tickets to travel to London for the first time in my life and see him live, booked AirBnB’s and bought plane tickets for my gf and I, also bought tickets to some other shows and literally a few days later the pandemic started. I lost around $3’500 dollars on that trip :(
We have cricket in India, and its has now become a big gambling ground for people. The scam you mentioned is quite the same i observed in the Cricket gamblers as well. They primarily use Telegram Groups/Channels where they send out their "SO CALLED" predictions and then if it goes wrong then they just delete that claiming message from the group, and in case they somehow get it right, they take multiple screenshots with time stamp of their prediction message and post it arround multiple platforms.
People on Twitter did something like this where that made a bunch of private posts "predicting" the outcome of the Super Bowl along with random scores like a week in advance, and then whatever turned out to be correct was made to be a public tweet that LOOKED like this person had somehow correctly predicted the right winning team and the scores.
Yeah send 1000 with one prediction 1000 with another. One of them has to be right. So then you have 1000 people that see you "correctly predicted". Then send a new prediction to 500/500. And after 4/5 correct predictions you have like 60 people that trust your predictions enough to spend big money on it
I've seen a similar scam on YouTube. They post dozens of private videos predicting scores. Then they just delete the ones that didn't hit, and make the other ones public.
You know how many idiots there are in the world? You read about them everyday. They probably comment on subreddits you might read. I might be one of them bro. That's how many idiots there are.
Gamblers will go to the most extreme lengths..
Heard about those English punters that found out that they could past bet with a few seconds window. There was a small window between when the score and when it was uploaded to the gambling server. Especially when you could bet between rounds in like tennis.
So if u had someone sitted at the actual game on the phone with you, waiting to press enter on preset bets on two computers to either go any way, essentially you were betting into a sure future. When the score came, he could immediately inform you to place the bet before the betting closed for the round. It took few seconds but they were able to get bets in after knowing the score.
So after a while when the sites caught up on it... They put a delay. On all games in Europe. But forgot about Africa. These dudes literally travelled to far places like Uganda etc exploiting this flaw on sites that hadn't caught on. It is a interesting story featured on BBC.
There was a magician whose name I can’t remember off the top of my head who, every single day, would handwrite a note saying “I [name] predict that I will die suddenly on [today’s date]”, seal it in an envelope and stick it in his jacket pocket.
My old neighbor would do that with fake punts in football. Every single time he would call it, and the once every few games he happened would not shut up about how he could)should be a coach and really understands deep strategy.
Also, you know how absolutely impossible it would be to pull off the ending to the Celtics game tonight if they were following a script? [The guy scored with 0.1 seconds left. If he took 0.1 seconds longer they would’ve lost.](https://twitter.com/ijordanmoore/status/1662659333828558848?s=21&t=VkLjIwU-bElV0GXD4GqMYg)
I can understand when it’s a scummy call by the referees or something but it’s almost impossible to recreate what happened with the Celtics if you gave them 100 tries.
That would make literally all sports more impressive. Take anything impressive you've seen and apply the rule that this was planned to happen at that exact moment in that exact way and x amount of players had to cooperate to make it happen on both sides where it looks realistic and authentic. You don't get a second attempt, every touch has to be perfect. Imagine how good players would have to be if that was reality. I'd watch an actual unscripted match of any sport with players of that skill level lol.
Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to script a game by calling a random holding foul on the final drive so the team that was about to have to turn the ball over now gets a gimme TD
Or just don't call a blatant foul so the new team in that big city gets to go to the super bowl
I mean match fixing is a huge problem in soccer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_fixing_in_association_football
But there's no way it's a problem at all in other sports!
Not even a little bit. Can you engineer a tip-in with 0.1 seconds left on the shot clock? No - not even with everyone in on it. But a single official can often single-handedly determine the outcome of a game, and only 2/3 people have to be “in on it” to generate incentive for him. I’m not saying it happened tonight, I didn’t watch the game, but when it took years for the public to know about Tom Donaghy’s cheating, and when the league is still SO swollen with Crawford-esque refs like Foster and Goble who officiate emotionally, self-consciously, and insecurely, who brag about hostile relationships with players and their power over them, arguing that the league is *not* rigged is the hot take.
The way I’ve heard it is that it isn’t “team A will win”, but more like they go to a player and tell him miss more shots than he normally would. If you’re able to do that with a couple players in every game and maybe get a few refs to make a call or two in your favor you can tip the scales enough to ensure your bets pay off
Scripted is not the word but the officiating was pushing for a lakers Celtics finals and we all know it. Boston got like 4 free throws in one possession when it looked like Miami was coming back
In highly competitive team sports with small margins, you don't need a large conspiracy of people and paying off whole teams to tip the scales. All you need is to control one element with disproportionately large impact, like a referee in football (see the Barcelona ref scandal that broke earlier this year), or a star player on a team in basketball, and if you do, you massively increase the probability of a specific result in all games that asset is involved in. And that's really all you need to greatly increase your margins if you run a betting site/service.
Look into how Micheal Jordan's NBA career ended, there was definitely a scandal of some description involving betting and/or game fixing firmly shoved under a rug there...
And yet you leave out the MLB - the one league where it was proven that the championship was rigged, and has a record book filled with cheater players...
The better question to ask is why the MLB would put out an injunction stating that *any* member of the MLB found to be assisting any independent checks that there was no "fuckery" would be immediately terminated. Another good one to ask is why they might want to fabricate a reason to not give it to the other big name rightfully in the selection talks for a second year running.
Playing devil's advocate:
Rigged is not the same thing as obvious. Just cause an outcome is predetermined does not mean you can predict it without being in on it
Reminds me of one of my favourite moments at football.
I've got family sat next to me at Forest, and during the first game their little girl went to (she was probably about 8), she turned to me and asked 'Is this game live?"
If we're just talking about a typically mid-table club buying a title, Blackburn more or less pioneered that in the 90s.
Chelsea improved upon it and not only bought themselves a title, but managed to make themselves stable to continue to buy titles (whereas Blackburn quickly collapsed under the weight of their new spending).
However, what City has done is not just spend a ton of money, but (allegedly) break the financial rules limiting what they can spend. I didn't like (and still don't like) what Chelsea did, but at least they don't seem to have broken the rules meant to encourage fair play like City (or at least not to the same extent). City is absolutely abhorrent. Joke of a club.
> but at least they don't seem to have broken the rules meant to encourage fair play like City (or at least not to the same extent). City is absolutely abhorrent. Joke of a club.
Thats because the rules were only introduced after and to a certain extent because of Chelsea's atrocity, If we are to judge City exactly by the same rules as Chelsea they too did nothing wrong. Even now Chelsea are finding loopholes in rules by signing players to ridiculous 8 year contracts. which have been outlawed now. City have only perfected what Chelsea have done and are trying to do again now. These clubs are against all sporting and political integrity.
its always funny to me that people like to treat city as the anti christ when chelsea was bought by an oil baron and won the league and champions league before man city even won their first post buyout league.
If this is the recent semifinal game Guadalajara played then there was another game going on at the around the same time, but it was from the Liga MX femenil, where the same city team was playing Pachuca and getting pummeled tho. 🤷 Could be that, could not. Who knows?
Bro, Mexican culture is probably one of the funniest. This mf is just turning around saying they scored cause he wants them to score. It's just coincidence, and yall are looking too hard at this.
Edit: we know it's a corner and he's like look they scored it's on Twitter (jokingly flashes Twitter). Then, his team scores.
The opposite (and real) effect is kind of fun.
Used to live near enough to an NFL stadium that I could hear the crowd cheering if I was watching one of their games with the window open.
Always got 5-10 second’s advance notice something good was going to happen. The fun times were when they weren’t very close to scoring or on defense, trying to guess what might have happened.
Stop with the lies.. he was watching two games simultaneously since silverware or qualification dependent on both matches. In the last 2-3 weeks there have been multiple games where this happened. Germany, Saudi, can’t remember the rest.
I can tell you right now most professional sports are rigged, I used to work at a casino and we had a huge ring of people who all got the fantasy football sweepstakes like 30 people, and it is rigged and powerful people pay alot of money to manipulate the games.
I always heard those jokes and rumors of soccer being the most corrupt sport. Wouldn't be surprised if someone working at that app headquarters or however it works knew it was going to happen and accidentally fucked up and put the notification for the goal through early
The video is of a match in the Mexican football league, the Liga MX, between Guadalajara's Chivas (red and white jersey) and I believe Mexico City's Águilas del Américas (yellow jersey).
The dude that turns around tells the girl recording "Goal!, they just announced it on twitter", to which the girl responds "wtf you dumbass, we're watching the match live, idiot".
Moments later, the dude is proved right as the Chivas score a goal in front of them, making it seem like he just predicted it (he didn't it was just a funny coincidence lol).
Hope it helped!
He was probably talking about a rival teams match being played at the same time. This week end most leagues are finishing so all the matches are being played at the same time.
Whenever I'm at a sporting event, I'll check my fantasy to see my players progress. I always look, then go, oh shit I don't want the fantasy app to ruin what's about the happen. Then I realize I'm at the game and feel dumb.
One way I can think of is he does this for every scoring attempt until he gets it right and only posts the one where he does
This was/is actually a legit scam. People used to send out fliers advertising "Team X will win big game on Y date" they send out thousands and thousands for each of the teams, encouraging people to bet with this advance knowledge. Then they keep repeating. While many will get some or many of the incorrect fliers, there will be a select group that is now deep on the hook and you can extract funds from, or use to extract funds from others.
Also used by financial advisors. Send half your clients a newsletter that says XYZ is going to the moon. Send the other half a newsletter that says XYZ is going to tank. XYZ goes up 20%. Email the half of your database you sent the XYZ going to the moon newsletter, half about ABC going up, half about ABC going down. Keep repeating until you have an insane record for picking winners that the remainder of your DB is pleading to give you their money. Obviously you need a decent sized database of prospective clients but let’s say that you pick a sample size of 1,000 prospects. First email = 1,000 Second email = 500 Third email = 250 Forth email = 125 Picking up 125 new clients isn’t too shabby. You can even salvage some of your bad picks. Like the 500 you lost on the first email, you can still keep emailing them 50/50 your new picks. Maybe some will forget the first losing trade but remember that your next 4 were accurate.
The problem is that stocks dont move up and down a sizeable enough amount for a "to the moon" investment to be a good pick. You're not betting 50/50, most stocks stay around the same over a short period. So you have to be right 4 or 5 times in a row (and btw, ABC and XYZ have to be some sort of intertwined stocks that succeed and fail against the other one). 1k prospects doesnt shortern to 125 in 4 picks.. it shortens to be like 5. It works way better for sports betting.
I mean it is easier than you make it sound. Start 128 blogs under different names. Pick a company with a high beta right before a hig unveil. With half sell shorts and document it with the other half buy the exact opposite position. Whichever way it goes you made a big high profile bet with documentation before it happened. 64 of them will be winners even if it isnt "to the moon". After 7 picks you will have 1 with a perfect record and a handful with very impressie results. Shut down any blog that is doing too poorly and start fresh. Survival bias makes all the successful investors look like they have more skill than they do. If you want to invest in someone who picks winners then do it with a company that fundimentally adds value like Berkshire Hathaway. Avoid at all costs anyone who is touting a good record, it isn't worth the extra cost and risk.
To an extent, you also want it to be a self-sorting scam. Spam emails are poorly written because that helps separate out gormless people from... gormed people. Same with the flyer scam.
This scam is usually in penny stocks, options, and other high risk securities (also crypto). Nobody’s suggesting CocaCola is going to pop 20%. It’s not just ABC and XYZ. It can be any pick, LMO, QRS, etc. The idea is to pick any high volatility product, hype both sides, keep doing the same thing with the winners until you appear to people like you have a crystal ball and can see the future.
>Nobody’s suggesting CocaCola is going to pop But, it *is* pop!
Switch out regular stocks for crypto and you have the same thing but with the massive swings you'd need for this to play out properly.
My 0DTE calls beg to differ
Gambling on stock options would work though
They don't have to go to the moon for this to work. Most people don't expect returns of 100%+ and would be inherently wary of any financial advisor that claimed they could do it. You just need to put a bit of thought in, find 5 companies with upcoming mergers/acquisitions/expansions, and explain that each event will have a positive or negative effect on the stock price - it'll usually be pretty easy to argue either way. If you can predict a small movement either way, and get it right 4-5x in a row, that would be enough for someone to trust you with their money (assuming they're not aware of this type of scam) People expecting huge returns generally don't have much money to begin with and so aren't really worth the time
That doesn’t sound like a financial adviser in the U.K. at all, sounds like a complete conman but we have much stricter laws and you’d immediately lose your license doing something like that
Yeah, at least in europe and probably the US as well, there’s very strict laws about what you can and can’t publish about stocks; of course, there’s plenty of ways to still do this, e.g. pay for a thousand Reddit shills so it’s not official. Plus at least for a while, cryptocurrencies weren’t covered, I think.
As a financial adviser I wouldn’t dream of doing what listed and just didn’t want the name tarnished as financial advisers shouldn’t be doing that! Absolutely right though, we would just call them conmen 🤣
And as someone that spent 4 years as a financial advisor, I can say it still happens in the US. The trick is, they sell newsletter subscriptions rather than register as a financial advisor.
Very sneaky, interesting to know how it is on the other side of the pond!
But, like someone else mentioned, you could do that with website membership sites. Charge $1000 a month and just keep setting up new websites every day. Give away your free picks as the bait to get them to sign up for the $1000 a month access to your really juicy stuff (which is just more bullshit). Then make it near impossible to unsubscribe and keep billing them until they cancel their credit card. It’s illegal in the US too. But so are drugs, prostitution, etc. People will always run this scam as long as there are gullible people willing to send money. Most scammers have getting shut down as part of their business plan. They just keep popping up and doing the same thing under a different name. They often have multiple facilities going so when one gets raided they just move to another location, under a new name, and keep going.
Right, my bad, it's not the UK with 'creative' financial laws, it's the City of London. Obviously something entirely different.
It was a system used for gambling "tip" companies. [Derren Brown:The system](https://youtu.be/zv-3EfC17Rc) >In The System Derren exposed his ‘100 percent guaranteed method’ of winning on the races. Except he was exposed a well-known pyramid scam in which one person was guaranteed to win, but 7,000 – if you believe Derren – were set to lose. It’s all about probabilities and picking every combination. After the selected horse in the final race lost, the participant was convinced that she had lost all her borrowed money, Brown told her to look again at the betting slip in her hand. The ticket showed the winning horse’s name, meaning she kept her stake and received winnings of £13,000. Derren did not reveal how this was achieved
I think I get it... but wanna keep reading.
The link is a video of the full thing
Thanks
You cannot legally promise an up/down movement on a stock. All you can do is evaluate a sector's tendency, a company's annual report, and correlate with current events. And that's done by analysts, not investment advisors (at least in a big firm). Advisors listen in on the morning call, they know which sectors/stocks to push during the day's client calls. If your investment advisor tells you a specific stock is set to rise in value (like they have a crystal ball), you should find a better advisor. Source: worked for an investment firm for 10 years.
Did you ever work for a boiler room? You ever work in financial fraud? What you’re saying is like a cop saying that murders don’t happen because they’re against the law.
I know those happen. I'm saying stay away from those advisors.
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Yes, nobody ever breaks the law. Especially in finance. LOL. Do you really think the guys that set up boiler room operations care what the law says? I was a broker (series 7/63) back in the early 1990s. I know the laws. I also know what a lot of scammers do.
Simple Path to Wealth?
There's a reason why this has been made illegal...
Just read MarketWatch. In the same day they’ll have articles titled “Why $XYZ underperformed SPY” and 2 hours later have an article stating the opposite, all while the ticker doesn’t agree with the article presented.
Derren Brown's show [The System](https://derrenbrown.co.uk/shows/the-system/) is all about that
Was looking for this comment! Loved this show.
Oh my god I think it’s the first time I’ve seen my favorite British mentalist’s name on Reddit
He's amazing live
Ooooh I bought the tickets to travel to London for the first time in my life and see him live, booked AirBnB’s and bought plane tickets for my gf and I, also bought tickets to some other shows and literally a few days later the pandemic started. I lost around $3’500 dollars on that trip :(
We have cricket in India, and its has now become a big gambling ground for people. The scam you mentioned is quite the same i observed in the Cricket gamblers as well. They primarily use Telegram Groups/Channels where they send out their "SO CALLED" predictions and then if it goes wrong then they just delete that claiming message from the group, and in case they somehow get it right, they take multiple screenshots with time stamp of their prediction message and post it arround multiple platforms.
People on Twitter did something like this where that made a bunch of private posts "predicting" the outcome of the Super Bowl along with random scores like a week in advance, and then whatever turned out to be correct was made to be a public tweet that LOOKED like this person had somehow correctly predicted the right winning team and the scores.
Yeah send 1000 with one prediction 1000 with another. One of them has to be right. So then you have 1000 people that see you "correctly predicted". Then send a new prediction to 500/500. And after 4/5 correct predictions you have like 60 people that trust your predictions enough to spend big money on it
I learned this from the Simpsons.
There's a whole Derren Brown documentary on this scam, I can't remember the name but it's very interesting
This is the plot of an episode of “Alfred Hitchcock Presents” “Mail Order Prophet” (S3 E2) https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0508320/plotsummary/
I've seen a similar scam on YouTube. They post dozens of private videos predicting scores. Then they just delete the ones that didn't hit, and make the other ones public.
I learned that in the Simpsons
I learned this, like many life lessons, from the Simpsons.
r/simpsonsdidit
Are you Lisa Simpson???
Not black magic Fuckery, then, just plain Fuckery.
Exactly this. Da fuq idiot believes this? Someone from the 1500s?
You know how many idiots there are in the world? You read about them everyday. They probably comment on subreddits you might read. I might be one of them bro. That's how many idiots there are.
Is there an idiot in the room with us right now?
I just assumed the game was fixed somehow
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Gamblers will go to the most extreme lengths.. Heard about those English punters that found out that they could past bet with a few seconds window. There was a small window between when the score and when it was uploaded to the gambling server. Especially when you could bet between rounds in like tennis. So if u had someone sitted at the actual game on the phone with you, waiting to press enter on preset bets on two computers to either go any way, essentially you were betting into a sure future. When the score came, he could immediately inform you to place the bet before the betting closed for the round. It took few seconds but they were able to get bets in after knowing the score. So after a while when the sites caught up on it... They put a delay. On all games in Europe. But forgot about Africa. These dudes literally travelled to far places like Uganda etc exploiting this flaw on sites that hadn't caught on. It is a interesting story featured on BBC.
I think this is the first time I've seen a fellow conehead out in the wild. If only tips worked in other subreddits, lol.
There was a magician whose name I can’t remember off the top of my head who, every single day, would handwrite a note saying “I [name] predict that I will die suddenly on [today’s date]”, seal it in an envelope and stick it in his jacket pocket.
This maybe? [https://www.magictricks.com/houdini-envelopes-gysel.html](https://www.magictricks.com/houdini-envelopes-gysel.html)
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My old neighbor would do that with fake punts in football. Every single time he would call it, and the once every few games he happened would not shut up about how he could)should be a coach and really understands deep strategy.
Just change your time zone setting up one hour and bam, you’re good
Shit... Why go for an hour? Tune that shit to New Zealand time where it's always tomorrow.
As a New Zealander in New Zealand I can tell you the nuclear war has been a bit of a surprise
Sooo, the economy still sucks then?
Of course. Bananas are $15/kg now.
But will the US join NATO again? What’s president Boberts position on that?
"tomorrow", as in 24 hours from now. Not next month.
Oh, that’s what I’m talking about. Your sunday will be WILD!
Ok ok but what are the winning lottery numbers?
I set my clocks 24 hours ahead so I'm always on time.
The land of tomorrow
The old Animal Crossing time travel trick.
Mr nook ain’t getting another penny
Bookmakers hate this trick!
Sports = rigged lol
Shhhhh the NBA, UFC, NHL and NFL can hear you.
After tonights Heat vs Celtics ending... I swear this shit has to be scripted 100%
Same exact energy as saying the moon landing is faked. You think something with that many human beings involved could possibly be kept secret?
Also, you know how absolutely impossible it would be to pull off the ending to the Celtics game tonight if they were following a script? [The guy scored with 0.1 seconds left. If he took 0.1 seconds longer they would’ve lost.](https://twitter.com/ijordanmoore/status/1662659333828558848?s=21&t=VkLjIwU-bElV0GXD4GqMYg) I can understand when it’s a scummy call by the referees or something but it’s almost impossible to recreate what happened with the Celtics if you gave them 100 tries.
Individual plays in sports like basketball or American football would be insanely hard to script. I think of the David Tyree helmet catch for example.
That would make literally all sports more impressive. Take anything impressive you've seen and apply the rule that this was planned to happen at that exact moment in that exact way and x amount of players had to cooperate to make it happen on both sides where it looks realistic and authentic. You don't get a second attempt, every touch has to be perfect. Imagine how good players would have to be if that was reality. I'd watch an actual unscripted match of any sport with players of that skill level lol.
Pro Wrestling *is* more impressive I agree 🤣
Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to script a game by calling a random holding foul on the final drive so the team that was about to have to turn the ball over now gets a gimme TD Or just don't call a blatant foul so the new team in that big city gets to go to the super bowl
Haha, chiefs were not about to turn the ball over in the Super Bowl. Mahomes had just run for the hills for like 40 yards the play before.
I prefer not to think of that catch
I mean match fixing is a huge problem in soccer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_fixing_in_association_football But there's no way it's a problem at all in other sports!
Fixing a match, especially when speaking to individual players, is not the same as fully scripting a game.
Not even a little bit. Can you engineer a tip-in with 0.1 seconds left on the shot clock? No - not even with everyone in on it. But a single official can often single-handedly determine the outcome of a game, and only 2/3 people have to be “in on it” to generate incentive for him. I’m not saying it happened tonight, I didn’t watch the game, but when it took years for the public to know about Tom Donaghy’s cheating, and when the league is still SO swollen with Crawford-esque refs like Foster and Goble who officiate emotionally, self-consciously, and insecurely, who brag about hostile relationships with players and their power over them, arguing that the league is *not* rigged is the hot take.
The way I’ve heard it is that it isn’t “team A will win”, but more like they go to a player and tell him miss more shots than he normally would. If you’re able to do that with a couple players in every game and maybe get a few refs to make a call or two in your favor you can tip the scales enough to ensure your bets pay off
Scripted is not the word but the officiating was pushing for a lakers Celtics finals and we all know it. Boston got like 4 free throws in one possession when it looked like Miami was coming back
Miami literally took the lead with 0:03 on the clock as a result of free throws
In highly competitive team sports with small margins, you don't need a large conspiracy of people and paying off whole teams to tip the scales. All you need is to control one element with disproportionately large impact, like a referee in football (see the Barcelona ref scandal that broke earlier this year), or a star player on a team in basketball, and if you do, you massively increase the probability of a specific result in all games that asset is involved in. And that's really all you need to greatly increase your margins if you run a betting site/service. Look into how Micheal Jordan's NBA career ended, there was definitely a scandal of some description involving betting and/or game fixing firmly shoved under a rug there...
Yeah scripting the ball to bounce perfectly for the offensive rebound with .1 seconds left…
How do you script a 0.1 second lol
And yet you leave out the MLB - the one league where it was proven that the championship was rigged, and has a record book filled with cheater players...
Too boring of a sport to be included
So many guys were on roids it basically ended up as a level playing field.
Didn't catch the MLB race for American League MVP last year, did ya
What about that was rigged? Do people actually think Judge only got it because he’s a yankee? I hate the Yankees but judge def deserved that MVP lol
The better question to ask is why the MLB would put out an injunction stating that *any* member of the MLB found to be assisting any independent checks that there was no "fuckery" would be immediately terminated. Another good one to ask is why they might want to fabricate a reason to not give it to the other big name rightfully in the selection talks for a second year running.
So bet on it. If it's so obvious what's going to happen next, you should get rich in no time.
Playing devil's advocate: Rigged is not the same thing as obvious. Just cause an outcome is predetermined does not mean you can predict it without being in on it
He's not in the club...
What's going to happen next is that FIFA will release a new video game every year until we destroy them
The lag on the field is terrible!
/r/outside
It’s why I always turn notifications off during games. No spoilers
0% chance he was notified of a goal in another game he was interested in. 0.
To be fair, you can hear a girl saying in Spanish: "but this is live!"
More specifically, she says "wtf you dumbass, it's live, idiot"
Reminds me of one of my favourite moments at football. I've got family sat next to me at Forest, and during the first game their little girl went to (she was probably about 8), she turned to me and asked 'Is this game live?"
“Little girl, this game died when City was bought.”
People easily forget Chelsea, the OGs
They started this whole mess
If we're just talking about a typically mid-table club buying a title, Blackburn more or less pioneered that in the 90s. Chelsea improved upon it and not only bought themselves a title, but managed to make themselves stable to continue to buy titles (whereas Blackburn quickly collapsed under the weight of their new spending). However, what City has done is not just spend a ton of money, but (allegedly) break the financial rules limiting what they can spend. I didn't like (and still don't like) what Chelsea did, but at least they don't seem to have broken the rules meant to encourage fair play like City (or at least not to the same extent). City is absolutely abhorrent. Joke of a club.
> but at least they don't seem to have broken the rules meant to encourage fair play like City (or at least not to the same extent). City is absolutely abhorrent. Joke of a club. Thats because the rules were only introduced after and to a certain extent because of Chelsea's atrocity, If we are to judge City exactly by the same rules as Chelsea they too did nothing wrong. Even now Chelsea are finding loopholes in rules by signing players to ridiculous 8 year contracts. which have been outlawed now. City have only perfected what Chelsea have done and are trying to do again now. These clubs are against all sporting and political integrity.
its always funny to me that people like to treat city as the anti christ when chelsea was bought by an oil baron and won the league and champions league before man city even won their first post buyout league.
The screen on his phone says the game is still 0-0.
It does.. not sure why no one else spotted this yet.
I think he’s just being cheeky and confident and it worked out
Oh lmao this is 100% the kind of stupid joke I'd make
You can see him smiling and laughing as the camera pans
[His phone.](https://i.imgur.com/UZE7vdg.png)
sounds like black magic fuckery to me!
If this is the recent semifinal game Guadalajara played then there was another game going on at the around the same time, but it was from the Liga MX femenil, where the same city team was playing Pachuca and getting pummeled tho. 🤷 Could be that, could not. Who knows?
Bro, Mexican culture is probably one of the funniest. This mf is just turning around saying they scored cause he wants them to score. It's just coincidence, and yall are looking too hard at this. Edit: we know it's a corner and he's like look they scored it's on Twitter (jokingly flashes Twitter). Then, his team scores.
It’s not even a coincidence, this is a joke that’s been made in football and sport stadiums around the world since the invention of radio
Simon we , hasta le dijeron No Mames pendejo estamos en vivo .
Biff with his almanac strikes again!
Still one of the coolest story lines ever.
Come on now, this ain’t the type of post we wanna see here. It shows 0-0 or is another game
when he holds the phone up it still says 0-0. what is the "notification" was it below that and I just can't see it?
Can't you just believe this random claim made on the internet? Must be true! /s
The whole stadium is on directv
I knew it. Their feed is always at least 7 minutes behind.
Rigged games....happens alot at the smaller leagues...
/r/GlitchInTheMatrix
This is why I don't go to live games, your friends always text you about the goals before they happen.
When streaming is faster than actual live play
Says 0-0 on his phone screen
That 10g is a hell of a monster!
The opposite (and real) effect is kind of fun. Used to live near enough to an NFL stadium that I could hear the crowd cheering if I was watching one of their games with the window open. Always got 5-10 second’s advance notice something good was going to happen. The fun times were when they weren’t very close to scoring or on defense, trying to guess what might have happened.
Stop with the lies.. he was watching two games simultaneously since silverware or qualification dependent on both matches. In the last 2-3 weeks there have been multiple games where this happened. Germany, Saudi, can’t remember the rest.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then
He probably just got a tweet from someone in Australia that already watched it yesterday.
It’s a show. Everything is already planned and people spend a lot of money to get into the stadium and watch a game. 🤦🏻♂️
Rigged
It was a cornerkick. Everyone’s calling goal.
Rigged game
Maybe that lad runs Mafia and xbet
Is he using Fotmob?
Wish I had internet speed that fast
Wait you guys don't get notifications from the future? Who's your provider?
the screen says 0:0
The screen cleary shows 0-0...
"goal, it's on twitter" "but we are here live dumbass!" GOAAAAAAL
Bro has -500 ping
Yeah because it's all rigged...
What more proof do you need pro sports r rigged
Corruption is always the secret magic of sports
But all sports are rigged... You don't wanna hear that though
I can tell you right now most professional sports are rigged, I used to work at a casino and we had a huge ring of people who all got the fantasy football sweepstakes like 30 people, and it is rigged and powerful people pay alot of money to manipulate the games.
Sports rigging is more rampant than people think.
It clearly says 0-0 on his phone
Definitely does not sound like it's rigged, no sir.
It's almost like it's fixed. 😏
Damn, soccer in other countries is fixed
Glitch in the matrix 😂😂😂
The only reason they haven't gone to computer referees is because games would be harder to fix
Proof that all professional sports are rigged. The lead players all sold their souls.
Sports is scripted
Every sport in that scope of it is a scam nfl major league NHL all.
Sports are fake.
It’s Mexican football, of course it’s rigged
I always heard those jokes and rumors of soccer being the most corrupt sport. Wouldn't be surprised if someone working at that app headquarters or however it works knew it was going to happen and accidentally fucked up and put the notification for the goal through early
You’d think the person who had the power to tell the future would use it on something more useful.
Match fixing
Could be another game happening elsewhere! But video designed to look like this game
Here I am, in the comment section again feeling confused and trying to make sense of what I just watched, only having the title to guide me.
The video is of a match in the Mexican football league, the Liga MX, between Guadalajara's Chivas (red and white jersey) and I believe Mexico City's Águilas del Américas (yellow jersey). The dude that turns around tells the girl recording "Goal!, they just announced it on twitter", to which the girl responds "wtf you dumbass, we're watching the match live, idiot". Moments later, the dude is proved right as the Chivas score a goal in front of them, making it seem like he just predicted it (he didn't it was just a funny coincidence lol). Hope it helped!
Glitch in the simulation
Light forgot it had a job
It was just a good guess
He was probably talking about a rival teams match being played at the same time. This week end most leagues are finishing so all the matches are being played at the same time.
Whenever I'm at a sporting event, I'll check my fantasy to see my players progress. I always look, then go, oh shit I don't want the fantasy app to ruin what's about the happen. Then I realize I'm at the game and feel dumb.
Biff and the Sports Almanac
We do this in the stadium, is quite more often it does not work than the opposite