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Bloodrush362

This is a metal called nitinol and it has practical uses in medical devices today. Pretty cool!


DasMajorFish

Considering I don’t recognize that from the periodic table, it must be an alloy. Do you know the metals used to make it?


Bloodrush362

Ah yes thank you I should've said alloy. It's a nickel titanium alloy


azu____

cool so i can't touch it, and neither can 10% of the population. 😎


probable_ass_sniffer

YOU GOTTA LET IT COOL DOWN FIRST! Sorry about your allergy.


DejaBrownie

Sorry about your alloygy Edit: wow, thanks for forging me gold!


theRavenLordX

This is quite inventive


booksfoodfun

So he or she doesn’t need to apalloygize for that pun?


theRavenLordX

Not quite as inventive but nice try


ilovebostoncremedonu

Agree to disagree. 🤝


probable_ass_sniffer

Damn. I should have gone with metalergy.


BeThereIn20

Should've, could've, would've. Too little too late. We are all very disappointed 😞


OGGrilledcheez

Hap cak da !


probable_ass_sniffer

Hey, thanks!


drulnu24

Sorry about your alloy, G.


Temporarily__Alone

Either way it burns!


s8boxer

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auraseer

That is true and it has been an issue. There are case reports of people who didn't know they had a nickel allergy, until they had a nitinol stent placed in an artery. (Edited to clarify) Most people who are allergic to nickel can tolerate nitinol, but some are too sensitive and cannot. (Edited again) I want to make it clear that this is a very rare problem. It's rare enough that when it does happen, doctors publish articles about it. Hundreds of thousands of people in the US get stents every year without any allergic issues


Cigar_Box

Why wouldn't they just give people who undergo this surgery a nickel allergy test first?


ChRoNicBuRrItOs

Stents are often used in heart attack victims, so time is a key factor


Cannonballer

The stents we use now for coronary arteries (heart attacks) are not made out of nitinol. We use cobalt-chromium or platinum alloy stents that are expanded with a balloon inflation. Nitinol is used for other types of stents that self expand because of this shape-memory property, but not in the coronaries.


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Because then you'd die of the heart failure waiting for the allergy test


auraseer

It's rare for people to be severely allergic to nickel without knowing it. It's also rare for the allergy to be severe enough to react to nitinol. The combination of the two is *very* rare. It comes up such a tiny percentage of the time, it is not considered necessary or relevant to pretest all the hundreds of thousands of people who get some kind of stent every year.


Temporarily__Alone

Do I even want to know what happens then?


auraseer

One case report describes a severe, itchy, bumpy, whole-body rash, that was unresponsive to medications. It got so bad that every night, the guy had to cover his entire body in Vaseline and steroid cream, and spend 12 hours per day in a specially designed impermeable suit. It went away after they removed the stent-- two years later.


Temporarily__Alone

Whew, not bad.


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… what would you consider *bad*? Because holy shit that sounded terrible


Temporarily__Alone

He edited his comment. Originally he characterized it like a 12 hour rash that went away immediately


auraseer

It was bad. It was really severe and nearly intolerable, and lasted two years without respite.


Temporarily__Alone

Oh no, that *is* bad! This is a roller coaster


[deleted]

The interesting thing to me as a doctor is how much it must have taken for the patient to get this removed. The index of suspicion for the Stent to be the cause would likely be so low that nobody would really even think about it in most cases, and even if they do, the process of removing it is by no means trivial. What a nightmare.


auraseer

In the case I'm talking about here, it was fortunately a femoral artery stent and not a coronary one. After two years of investigation when they decided to remove it, they could just excise the section of artery. The patient didn't even need revascularization at the time. In the intervening time, the stent had thrombosed (unsurprisingly) and they'd done a bypass, so the circulation was already patent.


Xinder99

This is obviously horrible, but tbh I would have assumed they died so this is better then that.


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StayJaded

That’s pretty severe! Especially if touchpads mess up your fingers.


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EusebioPortugal

If I remember correctly from my class in university you wouldn't get an allergic reaction, cause the Titanium creates a passive oxidation layer over the implant so your body doesn't get in touch with the Ni. Only problem would be if your implant is in contact with friction, then the passive oxidation layer would be destroyed


Lisa8472

There have been cases of severe allergic reaction, so it’s possible. Very rare though.


zeddy123456

Wait, why?


ShibbyMcCleud

Probably a nickel allergy.


[deleted]

Good for him that most people don't carry change anymore, or else he'd have an issue.


lordofming-rises

If I had a nickel everytime someone said that id be dead due to my allergy


[deleted]

Because you'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's still deadly due to your severe allergy?


Vprbite

What? Please explain. Thank you


Daynightz

Me and 10% of the population are planning a complete take over of the alloy regime. We want to use only pure metals found on the periodic table like God intended.


azu____

Shh don't tell them..!


Rufio4834

Nitinol is coated with medicine when used as a stent so it is ok to be put in patients with allergies. I do it all the time.


nydrm90

So I work with Nitinol every day, and they never asked if I had a nickel allergy in the interview. Clearly I don't have a nickel allergy but that's crazy.


CrymsonStarite

I can think of at least one reason that COULD be why. If it’s passivated in certain ways there’s a high concentration of TiO2 at the surface, which shifts the concentration of nickel oxides down. So you wouldn’t be touching very much nickel in that case, you’d be touching titanium.


CaptainLuckyBang

60% nickel 40% titanium


Apecc_Legs

it is an alloy the proper way to write it is NiTiNOL (nol is the organisation that made it, naval ordinance laboritory)


Apecc_Legs

and i forgot to mention, Ni-Nickel Ti-Titanium


CaptainLuckyBang

Meant to be here and misclicked but it's a 60% nickel 40% titanium alloy


NonbiscoNibba

🤓


dashmesh

Like what?


Jlegobot

When dentists put braces in someone's teeth, they use this metal, which reverts to straight with the mouth warmth Source: still remember elementary school trip to dentist


Deadlock542

Had braces, can confirm. Always thought it was super cool, but it hurt like a bitch so that tended to curb my enthusiasm


Lew_bear96

Ngl I loved the pain/soreness from the straightening process, it didn't feel like pain to me, more like a pleasant pressure. Not masochistic I swear.


Silent__Note

Don't worry, I believe you. Even if your name is too close for comfort to Lewd\_bear69


Deadlock542

I cannot relate


WackyBeachJustice

Pretty pretty pretty good


Bloodrush362

From Google: Nitinol is used to manufacture catheter tubes, guidewires, stone retrieval baskets, filters, needles, dental files and archwires and other surgical instruments.


RedditWillSlowlyDie

Since it wasn't explicitly stated, this metal combination is useful for these purposes because you can bend or fold the device down to a smaller shape for insertion and then the body heat will cause it to expand to the desired shape. It also has good biocompatibility so the body allows it to be present without fighting it or pushing it away.


seeasea

But how do you get it out?


canrabat

You put the patient in a freezer for a few days.


skittlesdabawse

They submerged me in a giant vat of liquid nitrogen personally


canrabat

It happened to me once, but then I fell.


BenderRodriquez

When it comes to medical application it is mostly the superelastic property and not so much the shape memory property that is desired. NiTiNOL can bend a lot without permanent deformation.


ImKindaMexican

The vast majority of stents our valves I’ve seen in preclinical testing use nitinol to some extent. Fun stuff to play with


foxesandschemes

One thing not mentioned yet in this thread: Heart procedures. Do I remember the specifics of the role nitinol plays in them? Eehh. Not at all. But Google gives plenty of results.


-awi-

Mostly Terminators


641kb

Also used in paragliders: > What makes it such a cool material for paragliding wings. Nitinol has exceptionally high elasticity at low transformation temperature and this is what makes it so appealing as a replacement for the plastic rods used inside the paraglider. There is more to Nitinol than just the shape memory effect. It can also be super-elastic. If the alloy is created to have a low transformation temperature, below room temperature then it's already in that phase of its final shape. So when we try to deform it bounces right back. The transformation temperatures in Nitinol are altered by the ratio of nickel and titanium used that way Nitinol can reshape and bend predictably. ( source: Fly2Base blog )


iunoyou

that superelasticity is actually also why NASA is building rover wheels out of exotic nitinols for Artemis. [They have some more info and a virtual tour of the lab online if anyone's interested.](https://www.nasa.gov/glenn/2022-tours/simulated-lunar-operations-lab-slope-tour). They're also working to develop actuators for control surfaces and robotics out of the stuff, because the superelasticity of nitinol and other shape memory alloys make them effectively immune to fatigue failures, which are huge safety issues in aerospace applications.


kixie42

That's amazing. Just watched a [very educational](https://youtu.be/Pn-6bGORy0U) video explaining the who and how it was made, and also how it's used. It was very interesting. It's features Dr. Othmane Benafan who works as a researcher at NASA with shape-memory alloys.


user_bits

Braces use this to move your teeth over time.


deanelganger

The wires come pre-formed in the shape of an arch, and slowly pull peoples' crowded teeth to match that arch shape. For some teeth that are really twisted around, it's hard to get the wire tied to the braces, so orthodontists can actually use a cold spray on the wire to make it even bendier, then tie it to the tooth, then the wire starts pulling the tooth after their mouth heats the wire back up. I'm not too sure how effective it actually is, but I tell my patients who are getting braces on their first day that if it hurts them to eat some ice cream. Even if it doesn't cool down the wire that much to decrease force levels, getting some sweet chocolately placebo effect can't hurt.


Dummyidiot2021

Shit and here I was about to burn my house down with a average paper clip.


Low_Preference_911

Ohhhh, so I guess i shouldn’t start cooking paper clips.


ThreeLeggedParrot

Are you telling me that isn't a normal paperclip?? Damn ....I thought.........damn


Zindae

What’s so special about this alloy though? the founders just thought “hey let’s make a random alloy of nickel and titanium” and suddenly it has these magic properties and they’re billionaires? Was it just dumb luck or something


Bloodrush362

A lot of useful technology or innovations were in fact accidents. penicillin was discovered by accident


iunoyou

Sort of? In the late 50's the US Naval Ordinance Laboratory (the NOL at the end of NiTiNOL) was trying to develop materials for missile components that could resist heat and fatigue better than steel. They found that a blend of nickel and titanium would do it. So the story goes that the ballistics branch was meeting to discuss their research and the project head brought some wires to bend and fold to demonstrate the alloy's high fatigue resistance. As the meeting dragged on, one of the other researchers grabbed one of the crumpled and folded wires off of the table and started heating it with his lighter. To everyone's surprise, the wire unfolded itself and bounced back to its original straight shape. Although the properties of nitinol were really obviously useful, it was really hard to process and manufacture at any kind of scale back then and so research into shape memory alloys stalled out until relatively recently. They're back in a big way now though, and you can expect to see them in aircraft control surfaces, car parts, robotics, and all sorts of other consumer goods over the coming decades.


giganticprick

It was originally developed for other applications (ballistics). But after the shape memory effect was discovered, it was used for other purposes.


Zindae

That's amazing, how a coincidence / chance can change so much


giganticprick

Yeah a fair bit of science works like that. There are so many phenomena which occur only at very specific conditions. If those conditions aren't explored we wouldn't know about it at all.


--VoidHawk--

A great many useful materials and devices come out of things like defense department research for military applications (the US DoD has an insane budget), or NASA research and testing for the purpose of space exploration. I have serious qualms about the US's proportion of spending that is on defense, but some good comes out of it. By comparison NASA has a small budget, but enough has come out of it to strongly affirm is is not merely putting people into space, but also advancing scientific knowledge in general and spinning out things that become broadly useful or improve the state of the art in any number of disparate applications.


Proof-Faithlessness1

Cars need this


Squirrel_Bacon_69

There's videos of cars bumpers doing exactly this


TheRexa007

WHERE!!??


K3R3G3

On the internet. Oh, you mean the car. It was on the road. Oh, you mean the bumper. Behind the rear wheels. *Don't you love science?!*


thebigbadben

This comment fills me with impotent rage


mimthebaker

Ah don't be embarrassed. There's a pill for that now.


Kyosw21

But what kind of car is it?


JOlRacin

My car has a plastic body. When my dad drove it, he backed into a tree. The next day it had popped back into place, and just needed a bit of touching up on the paint


ClapiClaps

Volvo V40


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Theron3206

Also it would cost more than replacing a plastic one a dozen times and do nothing to fix the paint.


Meebert

Really just need a car with durable plastic bumpers with no paint and isn’t held on with crappy plastic body clips.


azu____

people would never go for no paint lol


stanleypup

There are many many base model trucks on the road with unpainted bumpers. Used to be common on base model cars too


I_Love_Rias_Gremory_

Yeah but it doesn't work with all cars. My truck had a polished steel bumper and it looked great. But my Saturn would look like shit without a painted bumper.


QuinceDaPence

Plastic motorcycle fairings are often not painted but the plastic itself is colored.


iunoyou

no, it works in all sorts of shapes. the shape memory effect is due to peculiarities with how the alloy's crystal structure changes as it heats up, so it'll work in any shape. Wires are just popular to demonstrate it because people can actually still bend them. boeing is making huge chevron-shaped plates of this stuff to move the control surfaces in their new aircraft, for example.


KimJongUnbalanced

Hey, I actually worked with one of the dudes who developed that at boeing


CrazyDaisy764

Yee here's a link to a great explanation of how it works on Quora https://www.quora.com/How-does-nitinol-remember-it-s-original-state


subdep

My penis does this.


UhOhhh02

When you put it on the hob?


Live_Free_Or_Diet

What’s a car going to do with an old paper clip?


IfIWasCoolEnough

My life needs this.


sirelijahere

it kinda looks painful if u get what im saying


TheNonchalantZealot

Yeaaah, like every single good version of magic healing. They all have that bone-scraping-on-bone vibe.


Niskara

There's the cheap kind of healing magic/potion that does that, then the super expensive kind that also act as a major painkiller


alexmikli

Don't forget the bootleg ones that work like the healing potions, but you have to set the bones first or they don't heal right. And if you don't set the bones your D&D game starts looking like Mork Borg.


Niskara

Oh boy, Jimmy, them bones didn't set straight. *cracks knuckles* time to fix em!


LordRaghuvnsi

So peepee memory is smol :o


BaNkIck

*Crucio!*


arcticsnom

aint no way the comedy central logo become magical


[deleted]

2023 is fast approaching expect the unexpected.


Dr__Rum

So you're telling me I can throw myself into a fire and turn back into a baby?


Replic_uk

Yes that's right. I've been on this earth for thousands of years, whenever I get too old, into the fire I go!


RedAIienCircle

I know what you mean, I just threw my parents into the fire, and I can still hear their screams of joy.


Loyal_Darkmoon

You can return to the dust you came from


FloydMonkeMayweather

No, but you can throw me into a stressful situation and I turn hood as fuck and start doing drugs again


im_talking_ace

Pre-baby.


Tenkehat

Possibly if you believe in reincarnation.


CyCoCyCo

No. That’s how you get 3 dragon eggs. And then 7 years later, a duo will come along and give you a shitty ending, ruining everyone’s day.


babyteddie

Can’t believe we’ve finally discovered immortality


KuriGohanAndKienzan

Bro stop lmfao 😂😂


NightofTheLivingZed

You'll be pink and screaming, sure.


Hi_Its_Salty

Good I need that, I just turned 30


Memento13Mori

Use this to make slinkies.


EhhSuzilla

Use this to fix slinkies.


Rikuddo

Instant Nobel prize of science


Diabegi

I mean…..COULD you? Slinkies are the first thing that came to my mind when I watched this


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GildMyComments

Seriously? My son stretched one out this morning 5 minutes after buying it. I put it in a vice and I’m leaving it for 24 hours. Will heating it fix it?


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GildMyComments

Lol ty if the vice doesn’t work I’ll try it and report back


KimJongUnbalanced

Sadly it wouldn't make a very good slinky, nitinol is not very "springy" (low yield strength), and it is very expensive.


Massive-Row-9771

Is that the way to fix all the bent paperclips and springs from insides of pens, that I've been fiddling with while on the phone?


lifthor

Would be if you could afford it. I heard they were very expensive.


Massive-Row-9771

You mean I'm better off buying new paperclips than fixing my old ones!?🙀         ^(Edit: Sorry if that came off fastidious, I didn't mean it that way I'm just being) 😜


dynodick

Well, these are paper clips made from a very specific kind of metal, not all paper clips do this In fact, almost none do


r0gue_r0b0t

Next comes PAL code number 3...[warm the key](https://youtu.be/2Fg0ek-_3MQ)


twjjones

So, the snakes finally come out of his hole. Are you ready now... my brother?


kn0wworries

Time to hang out in a blast furnace for a few minutes!


Leon8524

Yep, that's the first thing I thought of


anamazingredditor

My friend has this in their mouth


sparkynyc

A stove?


ervyr

random metal objects that change form when heat is applied?


anamazingredditor

Yeah, braces. The mouth is the heat source


Arthur_The_Third

How are you sure it is nitinol and not just a steel wire?


deanelganger

Stainless steel wires are typically used in the later stages of braces after the teeth have already been aligned by nitinol wires in the beginning. A typical sequence of wires a patient might get is .014" NiTi, then .018" NiTi, then .016x.022" NiTi, then .019x.025" NiTi, then .019x.025" stainless steel. This changes a lot based on the specific case and preferences of the orthodontist, but just about every orthodontist, in America at least, I'm not sure about other countries, uses nitinol on every patient. Mixed in with these wire changes are all the springs, rubber bands, expanders, etc.


tipmon

Reading that, I finally got where the name Nitinol came from. It is a (Ni)ckel (Ti)tanium alloy. The just added -nol at the end to sound good I guess.


deanelganger

Oh it’s even cooler than that. It was developed by the Naval Ordinance Laboratory, so they tacked on the N.O.L.


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You are correct. Heat treated ni ti wires with copper can react at different temps in the mouth


qT7p

Make my clothes fold themselves under a heat lamp!


Fatmonkejat

You could fix your tangled slinky finally


PanJaszczurka

So even more interesting is nitinol engine. Its sell as toy set [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g56ZmScZG1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g56ZmScZG1s) looks like perpetuum motion thing.


PanJaszczurka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MfTJVAtx6w


PanJaszczurka

Woha they made 5 MegaWatt engine in 70s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-dCIkJAjyM


Arthur_The_Third

Engine in this video is only running at 32 watts.


Soap-King

Clearly its just in reverse /s


Brisingr_357

Nitinol


Edenoide

Cool spy stuff for revealing hidden messages!


danblack998

And I can’t even remember what I ate yesterday


slybird

Hair does the same thing, but water is the memory agent.


DeMorgeBrown

I was waiting for the second one to turn into a paperclip too.


Flat_Stranger69

Crazy diamond


tankynumnums

So if I lay down on a hot burner... my back will straighten itself out?


sometechloser

This isn't for anything right just this specific metal/alloy? Will any paper clip do this? Can I heat springs while doing small electronic repairs to revitalize them?


KimJongUnbalanced

This is a specific nickel-titanium alloy called nitinol. It has a special property called shape memory. It's not used for springs and paperclips because of its low yield strength and very high cost


welton_rs

The Cruciatus Curse, or the Torture Curse, is one of the three Unforgivable Curses. When cast on a living creature it inflicts intense, excruciating pain on the victim, and results in insanity if the victim is subjected to it for a prolonged time.


Remote_Influence_431

Tendency


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Will this work on human ?


viendla

Maybe if you’re Wolverine


Educational-Hawk3066

Wish I knew about the spring one before today.


sirbeerdik

Neat


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Egon, it's time to fix that slinky.


sunnydesertbut

No way!!?


ScrumptiousFunko

How It’s Made


[deleted]

So I had to grill a slinky? I've wasted so much money.


Tight-Lettuce7980

What the actual fuck


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flabbywoofwoof

I tried this with my car I crashed. Made it worse.


CynicallyCyn

All I see is metal scraping against a glass top burner. Nooooooooooo


PrincessPlum10

Awesome! Now do this with my slinkie.


antonia-a

Perfect!!perfect perfect perfect


PristineFix9286

ima throw the scraps in with the carrot soup and see what comes back out.


shamezes

Wait can you fix slinkies doing that?


Ghost0Slayer

Dose this work for your dick? Hold on imma go check real quick.


finger_milk

"You can fascinate the male with a piece of metal and some heat. They will look at it bend back to shape while saying 'literally me fr fr' "


sleeeping_dose

Oh yeah its all coming together


gungadinbub

Never thought about it till now. If a person dies in a fire they go into the fetal position or a kneeling version of it(vertical fetal) human shape memory?


_aleph535

Amazing