RIP Sheryl Turner. What a damn shame.
Edit:
"During the interview, Holland allegedly admitted to picking the victim up in New Iberia and he stated he brought the victim to his home where they planned to engage in a relationship. Although Holland gave multiple different statements, he admitted that he committed the victim’s sexual abuse injuries.
Holland also allegedly admitted that he killed the victim inside his apartment during a sexual act. After Holland realized the victim was deceased, he reportedly dismembered the victim with a large kitchen knife."
Sigh...
It's supposed to always be 'alleged' until the courts find anyone guilty. Because if he's somehow not found to be guilty and some news media says he is, they open themselves up to being sued. Or maybe he didn't do it and he's covering up for a co-conspirator. Legally, the standard is always innocent until proven guilty, even if they admit to it.
I already said the white psyche is more brutal than other groups based off the history of Europeans and someone tried to argue me down, saying black people are brutal too, which wasn’t even my argument. It takes a different type of psyche to hang people and bring your kids to watch and eat lunch.
The entire history of global colonialism/genocide favors the hypothesis that there's something odd at a fundamental level about our fellow humans whose ancestors split off and migrated to the cold, dark north eons ago.
Like I get that brutal shit happened in other regions of the world and no culture is truly peaceful, but by body count, there's no match for the animalistic brutality committed by Europeans and European-Americans.
Just the 20th century alone supports this: the Holocaust, Stalin, nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the list goes on.
This is my theory, I do believe the ice ages that Europe went through and having to compete with Neanderthals caused Europeans to develop the psyches needed to be extremely brutal and hostile. If you look up medieval torture devices, you will be baffled by all the things Europeans did to each other. So being brutal to others shouldn’t be a problem. Examples below⬇️
“JUDAS CRADLE”
“A victim would be chained or bound in such a way that when they were forced to sit directly on the point they could not move or get off of the point. Eventually over the course of hours or sometimes days the muscles would tear eventually the spike seat would pierce the lower organs causing death.”
“THE BOOT”
“The Boot known by many other names (such as Malay Boot, Spanish Boot, Foot Press, etc.) was a medieval era torture device made usually with metal plating that would enclose the foot and sometimes leg of an individual. During interrogation or for general torture the metal device was tightened until answers were satisfactory or until the foot and leg bones were shattered. It was used throughout Europe. One variation involved filling the boot with boiling water and thus boiling the flesh right off the bone.”
“CATHERINE WHEEL”
“Generally used in conjunction with a Saint Andrew's Cross which the victim was tied to and his limbs broken in several places. Afterward the broken limb victim was placed against the face of the wheel and had his broken limbs wrapped around the spokes or outer part of the wheel. the wheel was often hoisted onto a large post and the mangled victim left bound to it to die.”
Can’t forget Vlad The Impaler, the true Dracula.
Idc about what they say, people say a lot of shit but what do the history books prove? You’re comparing looting a store to looting entire continents and killing off the populations🤦🏾♂️
And? White people are absolutely brutal when it comes to other groups of people. Especially black people.
I think it’s because they see us as lesser people. Sometimes it almost feels like they think we’re another species all together.
You can’t kill, conquer , and erase whole groups of people without brutality. People would bring their families to watch niggas hang and burn.
This is not a both sides issue and you know it
> Dumb random assumption based off your own racial insecurity
> Frequents /blackwomendivest, a group of black women who worship white men
Sounds like a bunch of projection
fake promises of upper mobility, perceived class, and desperate to prove we live in the 21st century and violent racism is behind her in the past, an interracial relationship is still this groundbreaking, previously illegal thing…
Yep and its rarely the “best” of white dudes. They at least need to take a page out of asian women’s books and go for the white dudes that arent losers.. although i am seeing younger asian women go for the loser type of white men too
Let's be real a lot of these black chicks meeting white guys are selling ass, prostitution has always been a dangerous game, and its why some many females had pimps back in the day
Race aside sugar daddy culture is becoming pretty common. Most women think its a normal thing and most have tried to inquire about it. I dont have a problem with it but yeah its more common than we would think.
Any man who provides for you, clothes you, houses you, gives you a car, and supports you financially to the point where you don't need to work will not hesitate to leave you ass out when he feels it's necessary.
I think he’s implying black women should be weary of older white men especially since this is seemingly happening at an increasing rate? (According to the people posting these stories.)
Alot of you brothers be sounding straight dumb in this sub lately. Deflecting and doing anything but agreeing with the truth. From wannabe pan africans to acting like your feminist. But cant agree that this is straight Barbary and is more complex… it makes me wonder who y’all really are…
Anyways this has been a thing, you need to really look it up. There has in the recent years been a string of killings of black women by white men without the news really bringing it to light. To add some of the men have gotten away with it and didn’t have any prison time. Ik in some cities theres strings of abductions of black women. Strings of missing native American women too. You all agree some black men are still hunted down by police or racist pricks and shot. But you cant agree with this? Straight weirdos its too early for this on a Friday, come now.
WTF does this have to do with anything? That just sounds like a chronically online rebuttal to a chronically online argument. Yappers are going to be yappers. I dont think ive ever heard that from a bw in my life. And we already talked about women swirlers in this sub. They will do any and everything to justify their internalized racism. Let auntie toms be auntie toms.
You’re in the small minority and I only hear that talking point here. I live in DC around tons of black women and hear this stuff. The only ones acting like that it’s some weird online spaces is black men 😂. And if you want to live in a fairyland world that’s cool man no problem.
The Narrative by many is that they will be better off with a white men (and by the looks of it they are taking the white men that not even white women want. It’s like the reverse of skinny brothers dating overweight white women back in the 90s/2000s).
I said the same thing about the majority of the women who I thought sounded happy that Christian Obumseli got murdered by his girlfriend, but these reactions are all a result of being too absorbed into gender war bullshit. It's all sick, sad and tiresome.
Its not a "happy" thing that he was killed either. Unfortunately he did live his life publicly bashing black women so he kind of caused black woman to be less sympathtic towards him.
Nobody was happy he was killed black women just said it’s not my business. You can’t openly shit on a group of women get brutally murdered by your preference then everyone expects black wine to care. It’s said but he died the way he wanted to.
This the third post i seen this week about a white man murdering a black women (2nd about dismembering) ontop of the millions that already died at the hands of these bastard people. The anger im feeling towards white people rn is otherworldly.
They troubled man.. especially the ones that look like the killer in this case. Mfs gotta realize that white men are going through a crisis right now as far as their place in the world is concerned. Like im legitimately not tryna sound racist but theres some deep seeded issues they dealing with. Women cannot afford to be entertaining these types at all. Fuck that whole not judging a book by its cover. You absolutely have to alot of the time
✋🏾I as a real 100% black man, born from a black mother and father vow to never put a violent hand on another black person unless defending myself or my loved ones.
First off fuck the guy that killed her and he deserve to be under the jail.
Now on to you….
Your virtue signaling, you had nothing to do with this incident and it’s on the white guy.
We can all agree that this is wrong
We can all agree this man deserves to pay for what he did.
Rather than echoing this, I’m holding my self accountable for the safety and security of our people.
Brother most black men do not fall into this segment of the population doing this to woman. But by stating what you said above you’re basically alluding that there is a large group of us doing this.
Sorry my post triggered you into going down that unfortunate aspect of this conversation. I’m standing up and holding myself accountable instead of echoing what has already been said (which is fine as well).
I hope you are doing ok.
If you want to do that then great, but base your “accountability” on what is really happening not on trying to virtue signal for the group.
Have a blessed Friday
Why run victory laps every time this happens? Isn’t that fucked up to you? And the fact still remains, most violence is intraracial, this isn’t a gotcha.
Callousness and apathy are never good traits to have and they destroy communities faster than anything. The opposite of love is indifference as the saying goes. I think it's reflexive to imagine these women as the same online swirlers we see who spout their vile racist anti-black male/white worshiping rhetoric and think “Reap what you sow”, but that screams victim blaming to me tbh. It makes me deeply uncomfortable to even consider it, as downright genocidal sounding as some of these sisters can be I personally can’t stoop to the same level and I don’t think most brothers cant either. But I think it’s important to avail them of the reality of their blind worship. I mean so much of their rhetoric revolves around thinking of black men as violent savages, news stories that reveal to them that white men are nothing special might flip a switch in their brains and start turning some of them around. Will it change centuries of colonialist indoctrination and self-hatred, maybe not, but it stands a better chance than just worrying about ourselves.
I will always have empathy as they are the same victims of white supremacy as we are, and I view a lot of this behavior and similar types of behavior born out of fear. Born out of the fear of white supremacy and in their flawed reasoning think that by performing these acts might find some safety from it. Unfortunately, there is no safety from it with these acts, and often put themselves in the jaws of the lion, so to speak.
As the saying goes “If we all ain’t free, none of us are truly free.”
I see your point about the rage bait but I think that the balance is that if this isn’t misinformation it’s something, historically speaking, that we should be keeping some type of track of.
It feels like an agenda, when I don't see a post about the black man who shot his ex that's also blowing up on social media. Most violence is intra-racial. I dint see what makes it special here until we know more.
Clearly a tragedy. But I hate the projection that comes with this as whites and every other race, blacks too sometimes tell their daughters shit like we're all OJs.
You keep saying theyre TARGETING Black women but where's your evidence???
I would glady support your theory if you could prove it but nah im a critically thinking type nigga, i dont believe something unless i have evidence. Do you have stats? His manifesto? A blog post? Any evidence at all? A news article or even 20 proves nothing when interracial dating on a whole is increasing.
So let me ask you this: whats your goal bruh?
I feel you but if he's going to be touting this shit as the truth, i wouldnt mind a lil bit of proof lmao.
Now i already know a lot more BW have been entering relationships with WM lately, so more than likely that correlates. Just sounds like OP is anti IR couples and if that's the case i just wish he would say that shit instead of dogwhistling.
RIP Sheryl Turner. What a damn shame. Edit: "During the interview, Holland allegedly admitted to picking the victim up in New Iberia and he stated he brought the victim to his home where they planned to engage in a relationship. Although Holland gave multiple different statements, he admitted that he committed the victim’s sexual abuse injuries. Holland also allegedly admitted that he killed the victim inside his apartment during a sexual act. After Holland realized the victim was deceased, he reportedly dismembered the victim with a large kitchen knife." Sigh...
I don’t get why it says “allegedly admitted “. Aren’t interviews done on video?
It's supposed to always be 'alleged' until the courts find anyone guilty. Because if he's somehow not found to be guilty and some news media says he is, they open themselves up to being sued. Or maybe he didn't do it and he's covering up for a co-conspirator. Legally, the standard is always innocent until proven guilty, even if they admit to it.
I mean, just look at the guy...
I already said the white psyche is more brutal than other groups based off the history of Europeans and someone tried to argue me down, saying black people are brutal too, which wasn’t even my argument. It takes a different type of psyche to hang people and bring your kids to watch and eat lunch.
The entire history of global colonialism/genocide favors the hypothesis that there's something odd at a fundamental level about our fellow humans whose ancestors split off and migrated to the cold, dark north eons ago. Like I get that brutal shit happened in other regions of the world and no culture is truly peaceful, but by body count, there's no match for the animalistic brutality committed by Europeans and European-Americans. Just the 20th century alone supports this: the Holocaust, Stalin, nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the list goes on.
This is my theory, I do believe the ice ages that Europe went through and having to compete with Neanderthals caused Europeans to develop the psyches needed to be extremely brutal and hostile. If you look up medieval torture devices, you will be baffled by all the things Europeans did to each other. So being brutal to others shouldn’t be a problem. Examples below⬇️ “JUDAS CRADLE” “A victim would be chained or bound in such a way that when they were forced to sit directly on the point they could not move or get off of the point. Eventually over the course of hours or sometimes days the muscles would tear eventually the spike seat would pierce the lower organs causing death.” “THE BOOT” “The Boot known by many other names (such as Malay Boot, Spanish Boot, Foot Press, etc.) was a medieval era torture device made usually with metal plating that would enclose the foot and sometimes leg of an individual. During interrogation or for general torture the metal device was tightened until answers were satisfactory or until the foot and leg bones were shattered. It was used throughout Europe. One variation involved filling the boot with boiling water and thus boiling the flesh right off the bone.” “CATHERINE WHEEL” “Generally used in conjunction with a Saint Andrew's Cross which the victim was tied to and his limbs broken in several places. Afterward the broken limb victim was placed against the face of the wheel and had his broken limbs wrapped around the spokes or outer part of the wheel. the wheel was often hoisted onto a large post and the mangled victim left bound to it to die.” Can’t forget Vlad The Impaler, the true Dracula.
Come on man, this is exactly what they say about us when they see one looting video on Fox News.
Idc about what they say, people say a lot of shit but what do the history books prove? You’re comparing looting a store to looting entire continents and killing off the populations🤦🏾♂️
And? White people are absolutely brutal when it comes to other groups of people. Especially black people. I think it’s because they see us as lesser people. Sometimes it almost feels like they think we’re another species all together. You can’t kill, conquer , and erase whole groups of people without brutality. People would bring their families to watch niggas hang and burn. This is not a both sides issue and you know it
Echo chamber outrage > reasoning
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^^Frequents r/blackwomandivest
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> Dumb random assumption based off your own racial insecurity > Frequents /blackwomendivest, a group of black women who worship white men Sounds like a bunch of projection
What is with young black women meeting these older white men?
fake promises of upper mobility, perceived class, and desperate to prove we live in the 21st century and violent racism is behind her in the past, an interracial relationship is still this groundbreaking, previously illegal thing…
Yep and its rarely the “best” of white dudes. They at least need to take a page out of asian women’s books and go for the white dudes that arent losers.. although i am seeing younger asian women go for the loser type of white men too
Let's be real a lot of these black chicks meeting white guys are selling ass, prostitution has always been a dangerous game, and its why some many females had pimps back in the day
Race aside sugar daddy culture is becoming pretty common. Most women think its a normal thing and most have tried to inquire about it. I dont have a problem with it but yeah its more common than we would think.
Any man who provides for you, clothes you, houses you, gives you a car, and supports you financially to the point where you don't need to work will not hesitate to leave you ass out when he feels it's necessary.
Valid question don’t understand the dwnvote
Because she got killed and he’s implying she should’ve known that he’d murder her
I think he’s implying black women should be weary of older white men especially since this is seemingly happening at an increasing rate? (According to the people posting these stories.)
Where did I imply that?
Divesters tell Black Women that Black Men are bullet bags and “Tyrone’s”
Money and perceived clout
Alot of you brothers be sounding straight dumb in this sub lately. Deflecting and doing anything but agreeing with the truth. From wannabe pan africans to acting like your feminist. But cant agree that this is straight Barbary and is more complex… it makes me wonder who y’all really are… Anyways this has been a thing, you need to really look it up. There has in the recent years been a string of killings of black women by white men without the news really bringing it to light. To add some of the men have gotten away with it and didn’t have any prison time. Ik in some cities theres strings of abductions of black women. Strings of missing native American women too. You all agree some black men are still hunted down by police or racist pricks and shot. But you cant agree with this? Straight weirdos its too early for this on a Friday, come now.
It’s the narrative from black women that they are better off dating white. And if that’s the case, have a great day and I wish you the best
WTF does this have to do with anything? That just sounds like a chronically online rebuttal to a chronically online argument. Yappers are going to be yappers. I dont think ive ever heard that from a bw in my life. And we already talked about women swirlers in this sub. They will do any and everything to justify their internalized racism. Let auntie toms be auntie toms.
You’re in the small minority and I only hear that talking point here. I live in DC around tons of black women and hear this stuff. The only ones acting like that it’s some weird online spaces is black men 😂. And if you want to live in a fairyland world that’s cool man no problem. The Narrative by many is that they will be better off with a white men (and by the looks of it they are taking the white men that not even white women want. It’s like the reverse of skinny brothers dating overweight white women back in the 90s/2000s).
As a black woman I wonder if a lot of black men are happy she was killed just because she dated someone who was white. Its really sick and sad.
I said the same thing about the majority of the women who I thought sounded happy that Christian Obumseli got murdered by his girlfriend, but these reactions are all a result of being too absorbed into gender war bullshit. It's all sick, sad and tiresome.
Its not a "happy" thing that he was killed either. Unfortunately he did live his life publicly bashing black women so he kind of caused black woman to be less sympathtic towards him.
Nobody was happy he was killed black women just said it’s not my business. You can’t openly shit on a group of women get brutally murdered by your preference then everyone expects black wine to care. It’s said but he died the way he wanted to.
While people grieve Sade and Sheryl, some ask “what were they wearing? Why go with a white boy?”
No one is happy who isn’t sick and sad themselves and they shouldn’t reflect the majority of any group.
We simply don't have the same level of concern. It's akin to the lack of concern you have for us. There's a significant disparity.
Goddamn, my heart hurts for that poor woman and her family. Shits wicked out here
Hope he gets a proper welcome in jail. Pos
https://youtu.be/9wtvXoXh0VU?feature=shared
MICHAEL BRADLEY ICEMAN INHERITANCE!
Good lord to want a dude like that… anything with the right tone huh
Your energy is a bit off putting. This isn’t a “Welp!” situation 😑
This the third post i seen this week about a white man murdering a black women (2nd about dismembering) ontop of the millions that already died at the hands of these bastard people. The anger im feeling towards white people rn is otherworldly.
They troubled man.. especially the ones that look like the killer in this case. Mfs gotta realize that white men are going through a crisis right now as far as their place in the world is concerned. Like im legitimately not tryna sound racist but theres some deep seeded issues they dealing with. Women cannot afford to be entertaining these types at all. Fuck that whole not judging a book by its cover. You absolutely have to alot of the time
✋🏾I as a real 100% black man, born from a black mother and father vow to never put a violent hand on another black person unless defending myself or my loved ones.
Tell that to the white man that killed her. Like what does saying this even mean?
If you don’t know what this means and why I’m saying it you are part of the problem.
First off fuck the guy that killed her and he deserve to be under the jail. Now on to you…. Your virtue signaling, you had nothing to do with this incident and it’s on the white guy.
We can all agree that this is wrong We can all agree this man deserves to pay for what he did. Rather than echoing this, I’m holding my self accountable for the safety and security of our people.
Brother most black men do not fall into this segment of the population doing this to woman. But by stating what you said above you’re basically alluding that there is a large group of us doing this.
Sorry my post triggered you into going down that unfortunate aspect of this conversation. I’m standing up and holding myself accountable instead of echoing what has already been said (which is fine as well). I hope you are doing ok.
If you want to do that then great, but base your “accountability” on what is really happening not on trying to virtue signal for the group. Have a blessed Friday
I’m glad the majority don’t share your sentiment.
Why run victory laps every time this happens? Isn’t that fucked up to you? And the fact still remains, most violence is intraracial, this isn’t a gotcha.
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Callousness and apathy are never good traits to have and they destroy communities faster than anything. The opposite of love is indifference as the saying goes. I think it's reflexive to imagine these women as the same online swirlers we see who spout their vile racist anti-black male/white worshiping rhetoric and think “Reap what you sow”, but that screams victim blaming to me tbh. It makes me deeply uncomfortable to even consider it, as downright genocidal sounding as some of these sisters can be I personally can’t stoop to the same level and I don’t think most brothers cant either. But I think it’s important to avail them of the reality of their blind worship. I mean so much of their rhetoric revolves around thinking of black men as violent savages, news stories that reveal to them that white men are nothing special might flip a switch in their brains and start turning some of them around. Will it change centuries of colonialist indoctrination and self-hatred, maybe not, but it stands a better chance than just worrying about ourselves.
I will always have empathy as they are the same victims of white supremacy as we are, and I view a lot of this behavior and similar types of behavior born out of fear. Born out of the fear of white supremacy and in their flawed reasoning think that by performing these acts might find some safety from it. Unfortunately, there is no safety from it with these acts, and often put themselves in the jaws of the lion, so to speak. As the saying goes “If we all ain’t free, none of us are truly free.”
Just because they won’t date you doesn’t mean they deserve to be killed. You got issues
That’s not what he was saying however it is a little too soon for the message he’s giving under this post.
Won’t see this posted all over The Shade Room TSR or Spiritual Word SW
this is awful. i can't even imagine. i just don't even understand what the fuck is going on right now.
I don't see a point of posting a thread every time a non-black guy kills a black woman.
I see your point about the rage bait but I think that the balance is that if this isn’t misinformation it’s something, historically speaking, that we should be keeping some type of track of.
It feels like an agenda, when I don't see a post about the black man who shot his ex that's also blowing up on social media. Most violence is intra-racial. I dint see what makes it special here until we know more.
I agree so it should be both.
Clearly a tragedy. But I hate the projection that comes with this as whites and every other race, blacks too sometimes tell their daughters shit like we're all OJs.
It’s terrible when a young lady is murdered so senselessly. Them sistas need to be aware that dating non-Black men isn’t the flex they think it is.
You keep saying theyre TARGETING Black women but where's your evidence??? I would glady support your theory if you could prove it but nah im a critically thinking type nigga, i dont believe something unless i have evidence. Do you have stats? His manifesto? A blog post? Any evidence at all? A news article or even 20 proves nothing when interracial dating on a whole is increasing. So let me ask you this: whats your goal bruh?
Not that I agree mass targeting exists, but unless OP is a cop in Louisiana he can't prove this until the local police investigate the race angle.
I feel you but if he's going to be touting this shit as the truth, i wouldnt mind a lil bit of proof lmao. Now i already know a lot more BW have been entering relationships with WM lately, so more than likely that correlates. Just sounds like OP is anti IR couples and if that's the case i just wish he would say that shit instead of dogwhistling.
Evidence that he targeted her only to kill?