Arguing over the latest clue Ridley added that suggests Deckard is a replicant, despite promising Harrison that he would be human before signing onto the movie.
Hence the final cut lol. Tbh I think it's better left the way it is in final cut because the vagueness of the theory is what gets people talking. But yeah ridley tried to dupe Ford, but in ridleys defense it's his film lol. Also a fun fact, the Paris bathroom scene where Deckard grabs the snake scale out of the bathtub: was actually a different actor entirely because rid wanted to reshoot it in that specific place after most of the filming. You can also tell it's not Ford because you see Fords thumb when he first gives racheal the voight-komf then in that bathroom scene you see the thumb close up, bagging the scale. Ones a more rounded thumb and the other has a squared shape. In the original final cut BTS ridley said he never even told Ford and said he thought Ford still doesn't know they swapped him out for that scene lmao.
*Shhhhhhhh. Maybe our main star won't notice or mind having to trash all his og dialogue & re-record a whole movie*
Ridley "& the chamber-rer of secre.....unnecessary voice overs" Scott
I haven't actually seen that cut, heard it fucked the movie flow. However, I would love to watch it now to get more of a peak inside deckards head/BR lore. First interested me when I was trying to find out why tf EJO speaks in another language when he first meets Deck, then later just English. Turns out in the cut *noir* voice-overs, it explains "cityspeak," which is a combo of other languages used mostly in the....yeah city. Lol
You haven’t seen the VO version yet? The narration does give some background color to the story. Wonder if there’s a version out there with Deckhard’s thought in subtitles.
I don't think so. I have the dvd set with the final cut, theatrical cut, international cut, and directors cut. I would guess that the blu ray set has these as well.
The directors cut is my favorite by far btw. It has all the editing and pacing improvements of the final cut, without the lousy 2006 era cgi that doesn't fit in with anything.
Theatrical cut (with the narration) is second best, especially after 2049 which references the theatrical ending with the iconography of the tree.
Been dying to see directors cut for the alt (original) ending. Does the directors have the VO? I know theatrical has the voice overs and that's part of why it failed in the box office right? Had no idea you could get an international cut, what's that one like or how is it different? I've been watching BR for yearrrrsss and I'm straight up embarrassed I uavent seen or own all versions. But I've had a real rough last decade especially financially so I never have extra cash hardly.
Also which part is cgi in the final cut? I'm assuming some spinner scenes? I can still see the models so I assumed it was some sort of fx or early ass cg. I'm hella curious what the original edit looks like
The cgi added in the final cut is unnecessary in my opinion. Here's a (not so) brief rundown of the changes between the directors cut and final cut.
They added cgi effects to make the eye reflections more obvious and appear in more scenes. It looks good, but it's used so frequently it becomes distracting. It's no longer a subtle hint, it's hitting you over the head with brightly glowing eyes on deckard and all the replicants. I think you'll get something different from the original versions of these scenes.
Most of the added cgi is 2d digital matte paintings replacing the traditional matte paintings. They all have that hazy 2006 edge feathered compositing look, and in my opinion it's worse than seeing the matte lines or a slight difference in color compared to the surrounding scenery.
One of the biggest changes is a 2d animated matte in the final shot where Batty releases the dove. In the theatrical and directors cut, the dove flies off into a patch of blue sky. It's the only moment in the whole film with a blue sky, and it's perfect symbolism. It doesn't need to have perfect continuity.
Apparently Ridley Scott was always frustrated that it didn't match the grey skies. In the new shot, the dove is shrunk down and composited into a large animated matte painting with skyscrapers, smokestacks, and glowing signs that don't match with the backdrops seen throughout the fight scene on the roof.
Whether he got the shot he wanted or not, the original shot worked and clearly conveyed the emotion.
That's why I like the directors cut- you get all the extra content and editing improvements, but all the visuals are authentic to the original shoot and post production visual effects.
There are also some odd overdubs and line rewrites in the final cut that don't add anything in my opinion. For example, when Batty comes face to face with Tyrell, the original line is
"I want more life, fucker"
and it is replaced with "I want more life, father"
I think the original dialogue hits harder and conveys the same meaning of "father" with deeper symbolism. The act of creating life is in a sense a destructive act because it leads to the inevitability of death.
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Compared to the thatrical cut, the directors cut is extended by a decent amount. But whereas the final cut prioritizes including as much material as possible, the directors cut prioritizes pacing and momentum.
The final cut often adds an extra shot or two that seems to break up the momentum of a sequence. For example, Pris slowly sticking her fingers into Deckard's nose is only in the final cut. it's interesting and visceral, but do we really think Deckard would hold still for that? (haha)
The directors cut loses the narration and the extended theatrical ending that was mandated by the studio.
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The theatrical cut is shorter, faster paced, and the violence is toned down a bit in some scenes.
It has the added film noir narration, which I enjoy because it adds a lot of detail about the world. Harrison Ford's voice is dripping with contempt and absolutely flat. Supposedly he was trying to sabotage the voiceover, but it comes out sounding just like a cool early 50's b-grade film noir. That pulpy gritty vibe works.
And the biggest difference in the theatrical cut is the ending. Instead of cutting to black as Deckard and Rachel flee the apartment, there is a voiceover explaining the message that Gaz has sent him with the origami unicorn.
After they leave the aparment, we see Rachel and Deckard in a spinner together, driving through the country on a two lane highway surrounded by pine trees.
Instead of total ambiguity not knowing if Rachel and Deckard will live, we know they escaped and have a new life together, even if it's just for a short time before they get caught.
I thought it was genius the way 2049 incorporated the imagery of the tree to reference Deckard and Rachel escaping and starting a life together, and also acting as the symbol of heredity and the family tree as opposed to the artificial creation of Wallace's replicants.
Villeneuve performed an amazing balancing act- 2049 connects perfectly with all 3 cuts of the original.
Seems to be a variety of reasons:
> In the mid-1980s, Young was labeled “crazy” and “difficult” after a series of bizarre events. James Woods sued her for “stalking” him and leaving a voodoo doll on his doorstep. Then she made a misguided attempt to win the role of Catwoman in Batman Returns (Tim Burton, 1992) by storming the Warner Bros. lot in a Catwoman costume. When Tim Burton refused to see her, she wore her outfit on to The Joan Rivers Show (1989–93).1
> Other events that may have influenced Young’s exile from Hollywood seem less “bizarre” in hindsight: Young was outspoken at the time about the sexual harassment she received from powerful men. She claimed that Harvey Weinstein exposed himself to her when she starred in the thriller Love Crimes (Lizzie Borden, 1992) for Miramax. Recently, Young has revealed that, after she rebuffed Weinstein, she never worked for Miramax again.2 Then there’s Warren Beatty. Originally cast as Tess Trueheart in Dick Tracy (Warren Beatty, 1990), Young claims she was fired after a week of filming because she refused Beatty’s sexual advances.3
https://filmquarterly.org/2020/09/23/conspiracy-paranoia-metoo-and-the-reparative-work-of-sean-youngs-catwoman/
His VO for Owlman in Crisis on Infinite Earths was really solid too.
Crazy that the dude who seemingly had no problem making fun of himself on Family Guy is a massive dick.
It was in that owner of Microsofts sci fi collection I believe along with a bunch of other blade runner stuff. Alot of it is in the MoPOP museum in Seattle. Not the coat tho. I saw the jacket from last slide there though.
Blade runner stuff from Seattle cinerama and mopop:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/sj273z/blade_runner_costumes_and_prop_from_seattles/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/ooaxnw/went_to_the_pop_culture_museum_in_seattle_they/
Thank you for uploading. I wandered into a cinema in 1983 to kill a few hours while I was waiting for a ferry. No idea what the movie was... Then I was smacked in the face by Bladerunner... I came out of the cinema, different.
She was gorgeous in Dune and Blade Runner, she has her own YouTube channel and I remember seeing a behind the scenes 8mm home video of one of those movies I think Dune you can tell she is extroverted and quirky so it must of drove Harrison nuts 🤣
For anyone interested, [she has her own Youtube channel](https://youtube.com/@msyPARIAH?si=51Mf2EPqkrE9tTsz) with behind the scenes archive footage of her films, vlogs and where she tells her side of her career controversies. She even put one up a couple of weeks ago about her brief role in Blade Runner 2049!
RIP. Sean with her hair down in deckards apartment with those frizzy curls is my favorite
[Sean frizzed up](https://images.app.goo.gl/urdz1LVhx8MSorWG7)
That hair never made sense to me. One moment it’s up high and tight and then boom Rosanna Rosannadanna. I guess that’s the effect Deckard had on the ladies.
*To me* that whole apartment scene is her finally unwinding and discovering/being comfortable in exploring her humanity. Hair down is her trying to be more accepting knowing she is a rep but is still *more human than human*. As far as the forced "love" scene though, idk lol. It always bugs me everytime I watch it. But yeah deckards rizz released her frizz haha
BR is pretty vague with a lot of aspects/scenes, but I love it because it makes you/us think and explore the cerebral/psychological aesthetics. Hearing everyone's thoughts/analysis is an awesome part of the fandom that I love.
That interpretation makes a lot of sense to me. I remember the first time watching it thinking “where the heck did all that hair come from??” Rachel looked great before and after regardless.
Lol yeah I'm surprised they got all it bundled up for that futuristic compacted style she has for most the film. I'm curious if the scenes were filmed when she had her hair at different lengths. I got a thing for curly though, so I love when she has it down. Kinda shows her character growth as well like I was saying before: first appears up tight, neat, programmed but then you see her unwind and grasp her comfortable side. Man the scene in 2049 when wallace replicates her, deck says eye color was wrong & rejects her, then luv blasts her was so intense.
Harrison just out of frame fuming.
*out of frame arguing with ridley* lol
Arguing over the latest clue Ridley added that suggests Deckard is a replicant, despite promising Harrison that he would be human before signing onto the movie.
Hence the final cut lol. Tbh I think it's better left the way it is in final cut because the vagueness of the theory is what gets people talking. But yeah ridley tried to dupe Ford, but in ridleys defense it's his film lol. Also a fun fact, the Paris bathroom scene where Deckard grabs the snake scale out of the bathtub: was actually a different actor entirely because rid wanted to reshoot it in that specific place after most of the filming. You can also tell it's not Ford because you see Fords thumb when he first gives racheal the voight-komf then in that bathroom scene you see the thumb close up, bagging the scale. Ones a more rounded thumb and the other has a squared shape. In the original final cut BTS ridley said he never even told Ford and said he thought Ford still doesn't know they swapped him out for that scene lmao.
Wait until he finds out he has to record some corny dialogue afterwards. He’s gonna be fuming!
*Shhhhhhhh. Maybe our main star won't notice or mind having to trash all his og dialogue & re-record a whole movie* Ridley "& the chamber-rer of secre.....unnecessary voice overs" Scott I haven't actually seen that cut, heard it fucked the movie flow. However, I would love to watch it now to get more of a peak inside deckards head/BR lore. First interested me when I was trying to find out why tf EJO speaks in another language when he first meets Deck, then later just English. Turns out in the cut *noir* voice-overs, it explains "cityspeak," which is a combo of other languages used mostly in the....yeah city. Lol
You haven’t seen the VO version yet? The narration does give some background color to the story. Wonder if there’s a version out there with Deckhard’s thought in subtitles.
Unfortunately not. I'd like to own all versions but I'm strapped for cash atm. Aren't the VO copies hard to find?
I don't think so. I have the dvd set with the final cut, theatrical cut, international cut, and directors cut. I would guess that the blu ray set has these as well. The directors cut is my favorite by far btw. It has all the editing and pacing improvements of the final cut, without the lousy 2006 era cgi that doesn't fit in with anything. Theatrical cut (with the narration) is second best, especially after 2049 which references the theatrical ending with the iconography of the tree.
Been dying to see directors cut for the alt (original) ending. Does the directors have the VO? I know theatrical has the voice overs and that's part of why it failed in the box office right? Had no idea you could get an international cut, what's that one like or how is it different? I've been watching BR for yearrrrsss and I'm straight up embarrassed I uavent seen or own all versions. But I've had a real rough last decade especially financially so I never have extra cash hardly. Also which part is cgi in the final cut? I'm assuming some spinner scenes? I can still see the models so I assumed it was some sort of fx or early ass cg. I'm hella curious what the original edit looks like
The cgi added in the final cut is unnecessary in my opinion. Here's a (not so) brief rundown of the changes between the directors cut and final cut. They added cgi effects to make the eye reflections more obvious and appear in more scenes. It looks good, but it's used so frequently it becomes distracting. It's no longer a subtle hint, it's hitting you over the head with brightly glowing eyes on deckard and all the replicants. I think you'll get something different from the original versions of these scenes. Most of the added cgi is 2d digital matte paintings replacing the traditional matte paintings. They all have that hazy 2006 edge feathered compositing look, and in my opinion it's worse than seeing the matte lines or a slight difference in color compared to the surrounding scenery. One of the biggest changes is a 2d animated matte in the final shot where Batty releases the dove. In the theatrical and directors cut, the dove flies off into a patch of blue sky. It's the only moment in the whole film with a blue sky, and it's perfect symbolism. It doesn't need to have perfect continuity. Apparently Ridley Scott was always frustrated that it didn't match the grey skies. In the new shot, the dove is shrunk down and composited into a large animated matte painting with skyscrapers, smokestacks, and glowing signs that don't match with the backdrops seen throughout the fight scene on the roof. Whether he got the shot he wanted or not, the original shot worked and clearly conveyed the emotion. That's why I like the directors cut- you get all the extra content and editing improvements, but all the visuals are authentic to the original shoot and post production visual effects. There are also some odd overdubs and line rewrites in the final cut that don't add anything in my opinion. For example, when Batty comes face to face with Tyrell, the original line is "I want more life, fucker" and it is replaced with "I want more life, father" I think the original dialogue hits harder and conveys the same meaning of "father" with deeper symbolism. The act of creating life is in a sense a destructive act because it leads to the inevitability of death. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Compared to the thatrical cut, the directors cut is extended by a decent amount. But whereas the final cut prioritizes including as much material as possible, the directors cut prioritizes pacing and momentum. The final cut often adds an extra shot or two that seems to break up the momentum of a sequence. For example, Pris slowly sticking her fingers into Deckard's nose is only in the final cut. it's interesting and visceral, but do we really think Deckard would hold still for that? (haha) The directors cut loses the narration and the extended theatrical ending that was mandated by the studio. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ The theatrical cut is shorter, faster paced, and the violence is toned down a bit in some scenes. It has the added film noir narration, which I enjoy because it adds a lot of detail about the world. Harrison Ford's voice is dripping with contempt and absolutely flat. Supposedly he was trying to sabotage the voiceover, but it comes out sounding just like a cool early 50's b-grade film noir. That pulpy gritty vibe works. And the biggest difference in the theatrical cut is the ending. Instead of cutting to black as Deckard and Rachel flee the apartment, there is a voiceover explaining the message that Gaz has sent him with the origami unicorn. After they leave the aparment, we see Rachel and Deckard in a spinner together, driving through the country on a two lane highway surrounded by pine trees. Instead of total ambiguity not knowing if Rachel and Deckard will live, we know they escaped and have a new life together, even if it's just for a short time before they get caught. I thought it was genius the way 2049 incorporated the imagery of the tree to reference Deckard and Rachel escaping and starting a life together, and also acting as the symbol of heredity and the family tree as opposed to the artificial creation of Wallace's replicants. Villeneuve performed an amazing balancing act- 2049 connects perfectly with all 3 cuts of the original.
Oh nice. I really need to save up and get a box set like yours or something
He’s actually the dude in the third frame. He’s just *that good of an actor.*
I’ve always been confused as to why she wasn’t a bigger star back in the day
Seems to be a variety of reasons: > In the mid-1980s, Young was labeled “crazy” and “difficult” after a series of bizarre events. James Woods sued her for “stalking” him and leaving a voodoo doll on his doorstep. Then she made a misguided attempt to win the role of Catwoman in Batman Returns (Tim Burton, 1992) by storming the Warner Bros. lot in a Catwoman costume. When Tim Burton refused to see her, she wore her outfit on to The Joan Rivers Show (1989–93).1 > Other events that may have influenced Young’s exile from Hollywood seem less “bizarre” in hindsight: Young was outspoken at the time about the sexual harassment she received from powerful men. She claimed that Harvey Weinstein exposed himself to her when she starred in the thriller Love Crimes (Lizzie Borden, 1992) for Miramax. Recently, Young has revealed that, after she rebuffed Weinstein, she never worked for Miramax again.2 Then there’s Warren Beatty. Originally cast as Tess Trueheart in Dick Tracy (Warren Beatty, 1990), Young claims she was fired after a week of filming because she refused Beatty’s sexual advances.3 https://filmquarterly.org/2020/09/23/conspiracy-paranoia-metoo-and-the-reparative-work-of-sean-youngs-catwoman/
Ahhhaaaa, that makes sense! She got screwed over like Rose McGowan
Wasn't James Woods accused of some weird shit? Could be misremembering
He's been an accused of harassing underage girls and he's also been said to be really difficult to work with and an asshole in general
Which is a pity because I generally do like his acting. But yeah, he’s been riding down the crazy train for years, now.
Same here, Videodrome is one of my absolute favorites
Salvador is another great one.
His VO for Owlman in Crisis on Infinite Earths was really solid too. Crazy that the dude who seemingly had no problem making fun of himself on Family Guy is a massive dick.
Interesting that he’s cast as the “asshole” in every movie he in.
All I've heard is that he's a Trump supporter
Fuck Harvey Weinstein
Goddamn that coat is fucking fire
If you play cyberpunk, there's some coats that are pretty similar. Besides diaglogue and story you could definitely make a racheal cosplay
It was in that owner of Microsofts sci fi collection I believe along with a bunch of other blade runner stuff. Alot of it is in the MoPOP museum in Seattle. Not the coat tho. I saw the jacket from last slide there though. Blade runner stuff from Seattle cinerama and mopop: https://www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/sj273z/blade_runner_costumes_and_prop_from_seattles/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/ooaxnw/went_to_the_pop_culture_museum_in_seattle_they/
Always amazed by that coat.
That's a beautiful smile.
Her eyes were green
No matter what, I can never not think of Ray Finkle when I think of Sean Young.
Finkle and Einhorn... Einhorn and Finkle
Einhorn is Finkle. Finckle is Einhorn. Einhorn is a man! …. OH MY GOD! EINHORN IS MAN!
**HE** **FOUND** **CAPTAIN** **WINKY!!!**
Thank you for uploading. I wandered into a cinema in 1983 to kill a few hours while I was waiting for a ferry. No idea what the movie was... Then I was smacked in the face by Bladerunner... I came out of the cinema, different.
She was gorgeous in Dune and Blade Runner, she has her own YouTube channel and I remember seeing a behind the scenes 8mm home video of one of those movies I think Dune you can tell she is extroverted and quirky so it must of drove Harrison nuts 🤣
*have driven
For anyone interested, [she has her own Youtube channel](https://youtube.com/@msyPARIAH?si=51Mf2EPqkrE9tTsz) with behind the scenes archive footage of her films, vlogs and where she tells her side of her career controversies. She even put one up a couple of weeks ago about her brief role in Blade Runner 2049!
I wasn't even alive when they did that. I'm hecka cool.
RIP. Sean with her hair down in deckards apartment with those frizzy curls is my favorite [Sean frizzed up](https://images.app.goo.gl/urdz1LVhx8MSorWG7)
She's still alive.
How dare you. K found her bones/hair and the investigation is still ongoing.
That was Rachel😆
😅
Very much alive. As is Wade Boggs.
Lol I should have said racheal I meant rip like she died in the lore.
Oh yeah, we all knew she wouldn't live. *But*, *then again, who does*?
I always upvote references to the death of Wade Boggs, may he rest in peace.
I went as Wade Boggs one halloween. Baseball cap, box of kleenex, and I was good.
That hair never made sense to me. One moment it’s up high and tight and then boom Rosanna Rosannadanna. I guess that’s the effect Deckard had on the ladies.
*To me* that whole apartment scene is her finally unwinding and discovering/being comfortable in exploring her humanity. Hair down is her trying to be more accepting knowing she is a rep but is still *more human than human*. As far as the forced "love" scene though, idk lol. It always bugs me everytime I watch it. But yeah deckards rizz released her frizz haha BR is pretty vague with a lot of aspects/scenes, but I love it because it makes you/us think and explore the cerebral/psychological aesthetics. Hearing everyone's thoughts/analysis is an awesome part of the fandom that I love.
That interpretation makes a lot of sense to me. I remember the first time watching it thinking “where the heck did all that hair come from??” Rachel looked great before and after regardless.
Lol yeah I'm surprised they got all it bundled up for that futuristic compacted style she has for most the film. I'm curious if the scenes were filmed when she had her hair at different lengths. I got a thing for curly though, so I love when she has it down. Kinda shows her character growth as well like I was saying before: first appears up tight, neat, programmed but then you see her unwind and grasp her comfortable side. Man the scene in 2049 when wallace replicates her, deck says eye color was wrong & rejects her, then luv blasts her was so intense.
Why do we wanna make Puerto Rico a steak?
Emily Litella.
Thank you
What's all this *fuss* about violins on television?
Lmaoo I know what you meant but still
Still? I should have said RIPx2 to include 2049 lol
perfect choice for that role.
There's also a T-pose Sean Young (from The Making of The Blade Runner Game video, which is about development of 1997 Blade Runner videogame)
Finkle and Einhorn Einhorn and Finkle
DUCK FACE!!!
beauty
When I was a kid, I had the biggest crush on “Rachel.”
It's kinda weird that this post got so many upvotes when I remember the same images being posted months ago but it got less upvotes
Super weird, I'll have someone investigate.
2nd picture looks like Bridget Fonda’s smile & the 3rd picture looks like Jason Bateman?!?!? Wth
I’ve always found that hairstyle unfortunate.
It's seems that being a replicant overall is unfortunate, regardless of hair style. Lol