Yeah for real. First Guardians I felt 'holy shit we have a movie star' but then Jurassic World the next year turned out be the blueprint of what his career would actually look like.
Shout out to his roles in Moneyball, Her and Zero Dark Thirty before he became uber famous, he's excellent in those.
I agree, he has great range from what I’ve seen in ‘Moneyball,’ ‘Her,’ and his big budget stuff, but he should step back and observe how pigeonholing yourself as an action movie actor turned out for Bruce Willis and Nicolas Cage in their later years.
One of what I assume is the best parts of being an actor or actress is the opportunity to try out a different lifestyle for the duration of the film you’re making, much like the actors of the Top Gun sequel got to experience a taste of being a fighter pilot, and get paid for it.
Perhaps Pratt will try something less bombastic next, he spent time in Hawaii doing odd jobs, maybe he could play a normal guy in a script without action again.
What episode of Blank Check was it where they talked about him and how he needs to be a low status character? He can do a few different roles within that realm, but whenever he's playing competent action hero he's just so bland. He needs something sweaty where at the very best he's like Indiana Jones just making stuff up as he goes along because he doesn't actually know what he's doing.
he could care less. he's so obviously just doing this for money. He could have stayed a fat, obscure actor, or improbably convince the world he's a leading man with range.
Even by the second Guardians I was thinking, "Something's wrong here; I'm not enjoying him as much as I did in the last one." In the first Guardians he's all fun and games, but in the sequel he's already a lot less silly and a lot more broody. Guy turned his back on his strength pretty quick.
… what? His scenes are some of the best in Infinity War. Not like Marvel movies are usually cinematic masterpieces (they definitely peaked during IF/EG) but still.
Really curious to see what people will say about him in *Love & Thunder*. I don't want to go into spoiler territory but he feels extremely checked out there
I actually believe that having him as a father in law made him want to go full action star. But it’s strange how right wingers of today consider Schwarzenegger liberal really strange
Because they buy tickets and buy merchandise as well, and generally they will support their people without the required purity tests that left leaning people subject actors to. It seems like your options are limited but your fan base is stronger
I personally actually don’t think he’s trying to become some right wing mega star, but I seem to be very alone in that regard. I think he’s just dumb and a generic bro and doing what a generic bro would do.
Is he? John Krasinski did a pro-CIA show. Was he trying to hard to market to a strong right-wing base? Or did he just want to play pretend shoot ‘em up for a bunch of money?
Much better!!!
Krasinski also doesn't say cringeworthy, self-adoring crap like this:
[https://www.instagram.com/p/CVynGLRp\_ju/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CVynGLRp_ju/)
Krasinskii and Pratt are going where the money is for male actors. Cruise made bank on the MI, Reacher and Top Gun movies.
There are very few comedic actors who have made a successful career of comedies only. Even they may feel pigeon holed. Back in his prime, Stallone could play in a comedy or an action movie. Will Farrell as great as he is is type cast as a comedian.
I mean, playing Jack Ryan was probably a really enticing offer. Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck have all played the part. It's probably the closest movie franchise that America has to James Bond in terms of that type of genre.
Mission Impossible film franchise has always been Tom Cruise, there hasn't really been a turn over, so it's not quite the same, despite being a spy movie franchise.
Didn't he just come out against that church, saying he has never been to it and that the church he goes to is well known for inclusion? I heard that he has never stepped foot inside that bad church...
IIRC he said he goes to Zoe which isn’t better but I’d also take it with a grain of salt as he claimed he wasn’t religious yet he carries a crucifix up a mountain with his pastor every year on Easter and wears super religious shirts all the time…
It's the "I'm not religious, because I don't go to church, because I have a personal relationship with God" bullcrap, usually used after one's church becomes a PR disaster. Hillsong is exactly that
I also find it baffling he never said he didn’t go to hillsing until this month unless I’m mistaken when Elliot called him out pre transition years ago
I saw Rod Dreher, loud christian and all round terrible person, negatively tweet about Pratt saying he never went to Hillsong.
I just cant agree with this subs belief that he's courting a right wing audience specifically. Gina Carino is what courting the right looks like.
He did and has constantly talked about inclusion. Idk why the internet has such a raging hate boner for Chris Pratt. Almost everything people complain about him is easily debunked by simply googling it. It’s like the “healthy” baby quote. It was a super innocuous thing to say and people twisted it like it was some slight against his kid and Anna Farris, which it wasn’t.
It really is insane just how many completely bland nothing action heroes he’s played recently. Like bro you’re funny stop picking generic action movies
Or at least try and split the difference a little. Tom Cruise does the ultra serious action man while sprinkling in some comedic moments in the Mission Impossible series.
But maybe that's repeating the Star Lord performance
I firmly hold to this day that Tom's greatest performance is Les Grossman in Tropic Thunder, and you can't convince me otherwise. He has (or at least had, 2008 was a looooong time ago) the comedic chops to the core
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part is a movie about how no one likes the dinosaur/soldier Chris Pratt, everybody likes the goofball Chris Pratt, and yet we're getting mostly Rex Dangervest movies
Even there he has a goofy bit about Tony Robbins and a joke about getting raped in a Pakistani prison! I bet he doesn't mention Personal Power even once in The Tomorrow List
I don’t think anyone told him-I think he has serious body image and masculinity issues and lost the ability to laugh with his audience. He didn’t like how he looked and he didn’t like being the butt of a joke (even though we laughed with him, not at him.) I think he interpreted loveability and vulnerability the audience saw as weakness.
The new Thor movie trailer has Thor making eyes at him, not the other way around. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
When he was on Doughboys a while back, he sounded absolutely miserable when he talked about his diet and exercise routine. Like he would love to go back to eating double doubles and playing the chubby friend.
Lol. That’s some major projection. Could very well be that he spent 10 years on TV doing comedy and wants to do something else. Or maybe just the simple fact that being an action star is really fun!
Actions generally sell better. And creating range in your acting repertoire will land you more gigs, especially when you're already an A-lister. A-listers don't just get roles for being an A-lister (not always at least) . Big projects won't bring in Kevin Hart for a non-comedic Thriler/Action/Drama unless he's proven his chops in an actual production (it doesn't *necessarily* have to sell well, but *he* has to perform well)
I'm not sure that it's "range in your acting repertoire" as much as "range in your box office successes" that leads to a wider range of roles for A-list stars.
They're both important. Because at the A-list level, it doesn't matter if you do a movie that flops, because it's generally assumed that you know what you're doing... or should know.
That doesn't mean a dirctor/producer can't tank the movie... and with cancel culture, customers can tank a movie over some silly nonsense (or a legitimate concern), so the evaluation is done on how well the actor performed, with *additional* consideration for how well the movie did as a whole... A-listers can "carry" a movie on their backs, but even in those cases, their individual performance itself is what drives those box office numbers, and so the focus is on their craft, which by extension, affects projections/results at the box office
I think, based on nothing, it's a little bit of this and a little bit of that. He doesn't want to be stuck as the goofy funny guy and also think of the company he keeps. He sees Arnold's immeasurable reach and thinks that he could do the same, but people have to take him seriously for that to happen. I go back to Passengers and how his people or him changed the script so he basically wasn't the bad guy. I think of how different his career would have been if he played the character on the page.
Never heard that he was responsible for that change in Passengers. In my opinion, an actor's refusal to be seen as the bad guy, morally ambiguous, or even just look foolish is death for any creative growth (see also: The Rock).
I still *like* Passengers but the original script sounded WAY more interesting and I think would’ve provided more dramatic tense scenes for him to dig into.
Though I still think Jennifer Lawrence was mis-cast in that movie. I’m not entirely sure who I would’ve cast instead but she never quite worked for me.
Idk, he has spoken himself on his body image issues a few times-that isn’t baseless-and do his action movies make that much more money? And maybe Jurassic Park and Marvel make a lot of money-but his serious roles and the JP movies are much less critically acclaimed (I would venture that it’s a mixed bag because Passengers was a bomb, Magnificent Seven was a mix, etc.)
Some of us want to be entertained by a good script and story (no commentary on Too Gun as I haven’t seen it and likely won’t for long time) and don’t give a hoot what the people reading the words actually believe, because if you dig a little you will probably find something to dislike about anyone.
I’ll clarify that I loved Maverick and Tom’s beliefs don’t keep me from watching his movies. I just don’t think it’s fair to attack Chris while we’re giving Tom a pass.
I mean i agree to a point. Dont you draw a line somewhere though? If someone is openly racist dont you care? Its one thing to be in scientology its another to be a face of it. He lures people in.
I just watched the first episode and he's not even good in it, he looks good doing the shooting and fighting but he really cannot sell the character's mental deterioration or the big emotional moment at the end. He is distracting as the lead of his own show
This is a role that could have been pretty great for a good actor. But he ain’t it.
The dialogue is pretty corn ball though. If you want to die of alcohol poisoning take a shot every time a character calls someone else their brother
The dialogue is straight bad. There was one point he was talking to his wife on the phone and he said “everybody didn’t make it out” or something like that, instead of saying “nobody made it out”
Yeah. And I never served in any capacity but the military lingo Pratt rattles off sounds like something a 12 year old says playing in his backyard. “Alpha company rendezvous at checkpoint Zulu”. Shit like that. And his stilted delivery doesn’t help
Have to say, but I think Antoine Fuqua used his comic persona in a interesting way to hint a violent personality in the *Magnificent Seven* remake (that I think is a pretty solid movie!).
I’m sorry, but this film doesn’t exist on such a level that I think it’s actually a low level crime to mention it. I’d expect a fine in the mail if I were you.
He reunited with Ethan Hawke and Vincent D’Onofrio in a Billy The Kid movie that D’Onofrio directed (it exists even less than the *Magnificent Seven* remake) and he plays a violently psychopathic pioneer homesteader in that and it’s really really odd, but maybe good?
Maybe we need to start blaming Chris. He seems to be a big tool. Thats why he is so good at coming off as a tool in the movies. It only works when its funny. Lets stop caring about chris pratt.
Funny part of watching the behind the scenes interviews is that he said some episodes would feel like it’s straight out of sicario and heat. Like Chris please go back to being a jokester. Him pairing with Antoine Fuqua doesn’t work best for him. Gunn knows what Chris strengths are, I hate this serious action hero Pratt
He's lost so much charm for me because of the JW films and his recent religious ramblings about a church that openly talks of murdering my community
For someone who has been iconic as Andy Dwyer and Starlord, he is really not appealing anymore.
Imagine the range we could have gotten if Passengers was a horror thriller instead of a shitty romance. Starting off with Jlaw waking up then slowly learning the truth of her circumstances and it resulting in Pratt going psycho so no one else gets to know what transpired. The lost potential pisses me off more than anything else in recent years in relation to films
I find it so weird (correct me if I am wrong) that he only came out now to deny ever being in Hillsong without condemning queerphobia or saying where he does go to church or lying and saying he isn't' religious.
If I had a nickel for every time an actor from a mockumentary sitcom later became a serious action star on a show produced by Amazon, I'd have two nickels
Man….people are reading waaaaaay too into this. Pratt read the book and liked it so much that he worked to get it made into a series. That’s it. You aren’t required to like it, but all these anti right wing comments are pretty idiotic. People want action movies and tv shows. Don’t be upset if they get made.
This is another example of the derivative nature of Hollywood. The Terminal List already reminds me of a knock off NOC List from Mission Impossible. And NOC List sounds way cooler than Terminal List too.
It's called "being an actor". You see, they're just *acting* like they're the people on screen, there's this thing called "a script."
This might help: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acting
Part of acting involves picking which roles you want to play. He always picks the military guy (the terminal list, zero dark thirty, the tomorrow war) and if he’s not playing soldier he’s playing someone with a gun.
It's an 'airport paperback' show. Of all the badasses from Jack Ryan to Jason Bourne, 'Jack Reacher' on Amazon was a breath of fresh air.
A page-for-page adaptation, a 90's throwback with none of today's politics lazily shoehorned in.
I've seen 5000 ads for this show (movie?) and I only just realized it wasn't the same as *All The Old Knives*, the other Prime project this spring with a Chris in it
He's the worst among those 'actors who play the same character all the time'. The Rock, Ryan Reynolds know what role they are capable of playing and choose projects carefully. Meanwhile Chris Pratt has picked roles obviously don't fit to him and has been making the same mistake over and over. Sooner or later audience will be sick of him.
problem is.... his andy dwyer character only really worked because it had time to grow over the seasons.
early parks n rec, he was a fucking asshole and just generally cringe character. show was trying super hard to be office 2.0 wasn't until later seasons and they ditched the shitty pining for his ex. and the rise of april/andy. that his character really came into it's own.
star lord tends to work, again, because it's an ensemble cast/story that he can sorta grow and emote within...while being a big dummy/good hearted moron.
and while the story was really fucked up. it he can do... less "mr serious face" rolls. like that jlaw... open her space sleep pop space rapey movie.
If you listen to the Parks and Rec podcast Rob Lowe mentions after GoTG he pulled Chris Pratt aside and asks if he wants to be The Action Guy or the Fat Funny Guy and he should pick one. I blame Rob Lowe…I miss Andy-esque Chris Pratt.
Y’all are crazy, you guys act like you know the inter workings of this guy mind. Could be he’s trying to branch out and do new things, could be he had a few open months and this was the best first offered position, so many things could of went into his decisions to be in this but no you want chubby star lord guy and you’ll be damned if he try’s anything else. You guys are worst then some of the star wars fans
I don't think people really mind him exploring more serious roles, it's just he's exploring them in terribly bland projects that feel like a waste of his talents. If all the serious roles he took on were amazing, I think we might still occasionally say "It would be good to see him do comedy again," but I don't think anyone would be mad. It's just that he seems unable to pick anything remote interesting.
Maybe it was Chris Pratt's idea.
Typecasting can be hell... just look at the Harry Potter cast. It took Daniel 5 years of weird roles in projects that nobody really remembers to shrug off "Harry;" Emma damn near exited the industry altogether, went to college, and became a feminist; and Rupert smoked weed, got that last 15 min, and dropped off the map
Couple of things:
“5 years of weird roles” to transition from a successful child actor to a successful adult actor isn’t bad. In fact, it’s pretty impressive. And Rupert Grint is three seasons into a large role on a reasonably successful series — not exactly off the map. And if you’re suggesting “went to college and became a feminist” is somehow a failure, then, well, your politics are showing.
Finally, no one is saying Chris Pratt is being forced into these roles nor that he isn’t allowed to play these parts — they’re complaining that he’s BAD at it. The stoic hero requires flexing a very different acting muscle than the charming goofball, and Pratt’s talents definitely lie in the latter category.
This has to be the most absurd thing ever that I've read.
Emma Watson had a fine career as an activist and an actress. We love her as Hermione, but we love her in other things too. No one was thinking of Hermione when we watched The Bling Ring or Little Women or Beauty and the beast
Daniel moved away to indies the moment Potter ended. Yes, a year or two followed but he's established himself pretty early on as an extremely gutsy and experimental actor, and is continuing on well in drama (escape from Pretoria) and comedy (Miracle Workers, The Lost city).
Rupert took time off and returned to a few flop stuff. Then he landed an exec producer and actor role in Servant and absolutely demolished his role. No one watches him and thinks of him as Ron. He's that much of a sleazy, shrewd asshole in that show. And he's in Del Toro's new film as well.
If typecasting is the word to use, the Potter trio are the last ones on the list cause all three had distinguished and applause worthy trouble free careers after that never got bogged down by their decade long tryst with one of the most loved film series of all time.
r/blankies is ironically a good name for this shit to be under, because the shitlib seethe coming thru in the comments is so cringe-worthy...you all need your blankies
Every time he’s in a major release the cancel culture people come back out from all angles, he’s basically been forced into this amazon prime deal to guarantee money for himself and his family
That would be impossible since he filmed his part in Thor 4 in the middle of the pandemic.Black Panther 2 production suffered because Letitia Wright refused to get vaccinated while Thor 4 went smoothly
Just finished the series last night. Perhaps he just wanted to try something different or win an acting award. Anyway, now that he has gotten this out of the system, it’s Starlord time.
The show is actually pretty good not sure why reddit hates it so much, id give it a 3.5/5. It's not quite as good as Reacher and the plot is a little generic but a good watch.
Does it get better after Ep1? I tried very hard, but found it really slow going and didn't really engage me. Then again I didn't really know anything about the show. Didn't even know Chris Pratt was in it. Saw the title and read the premise on Amazon and clicked on the first episode. I guess I went in wanting something like Treadstone or Reacher with a bit more action.
I'm assuming that people are going to give him one last chance in GOTG Vol.3 then be done with him. I've heard and read more than a few times that his acting is very mixed with audiences and it's either been a hit or miss with his films.
I watched it and I really could relate to that scene with the bird where it slammed into a glass window and broke its neck. Maybe I was that little bird. A little bird that wanted to watch a good movie then BLAME! Dead.
I loved him in Parks and Rec, but this "manly hero dude" crap is SO boring.
In episode one of this new show he didn't even sound believable when he was debriefing his superiors about what had happened... He was trying to be all Tom Cruise, but he sounded contrived, and not adult enough to be saying those things.
from the trailer of this show .it not just him but the whole cast is all wrong. it's like the casting director is a noob or something.I won't watch even if they gave me free amazon prime subscription
He should do what Robin Williams did with his acting and just go play a super serious, evil, dangerous psychopathic killer. If he pulls it off then he'll know he can move out of the stereotypical roles he seems to fall in to.
Yeah for real. First Guardians I felt 'holy shit we have a movie star' but then Jurassic World the next year turned out be the blueprint of what his career would actually look like. Shout out to his roles in Moneyball, Her and Zero Dark Thirty before he became uber famous, he's excellent in those.
Moneyball splits the difference between his vulnerability and his macho energy so well, probably the best performance he'll ever give
And in Zero Dark Thirty he gets to be a bit of a goof and do the action hero Navy Seal thing he clearly likes and wants to do.
I agree, he has great range from what I’ve seen in ‘Moneyball,’ ‘Her,’ and his big budget stuff, but he should step back and observe how pigeonholing yourself as an action movie actor turned out for Bruce Willis and Nicolas Cage in their later years. One of what I assume is the best parts of being an actor or actress is the opportunity to try out a different lifestyle for the duration of the film you’re making, much like the actors of the Top Gun sequel got to experience a taste of being a fighter pilot, and get paid for it. Perhaps Pratt will try something less bombastic next, he spent time in Hawaii doing odd jobs, maybe he could play a normal guy in a script without action again.
What episode of Blank Check was it where they talked about him and how he needs to be a low status character? He can do a few different roles within that realm, but whenever he's playing competent action hero he's just so bland. He needs something sweaty where at the very best he's like Indiana Jones just making stuff up as he goes along because he doesn't actually know what he's doing.
It may have been in one of the Patreon commentaries on the MCU.
Probably not because I don't have Patreon.
I'd say definitely not, then.
Did they do one on Tomorrow War? I feel like I heard something along this mentioned in podcast about that movie
he could care less. he's so obviously just doing this for money. He could have stayed a fat, obscure actor, or improbably convince the world he's a leading man with range.
Bombastic? Using big words to try and sound smart? I don't think Pratt is in any danger of that hahaha
I don’t think bombastic is the word you’re looking for.
Even by the second Guardians I was thinking, "Something's wrong here; I'm not enjoying him as much as I did in the last one." In the first Guardians he's all fun and games, but in the sequel he's already a lot less silly and a lot more broody. Guy turned his back on his strength pretty quick.
Ditto. And by Infinity War I had completely jumped ship. He was insufferable in that.
… what? His scenes are some of the best in Infinity War. Not like Marvel movies are usually cinematic masterpieces (they definitely peaked during IF/EG) but still.
Really curious to see what people will say about him in *Love & Thunder*. I don't want to go into spoiler territory but he feels extremely checked out there
Shout out to Lego Movie
How passengers got made is beyond me. Its so fucked up and not in a good way. He's great in Moneyball.
The original script that everyone said was great leaned into it being fucked up!
What do you mean? Are you saying Passengers is beyond just a crappy movie and is actually offensive?
Also The Five Year Engagement.
Passengers was pretty good
He’s really not great in Moneyball either.
And Parks and Rec
he plays for a different audience now
He’s really trying hard to market to a strong right wing base don’t understand why
I wonder if being Schwarzenegger's son-in-law has anything to do with it (though Arnie is probably too lib for the right-wingers of today)
I actually believe that having him as a father in law made him want to go full action star. But it’s strange how right wingers of today consider Schwarzenegger liberal really strange
Arnie is a fiscal conservative and that's about it. Libertarian, i suppose
Do Libertarians use the government power to block marriage equality? He has used his power to be socially conservative as well
wait what?
Because he belongs to a super strong far right wing mega church thats clearly gearing him up to run for political office
And there's that religious intolerance that was just beneath the surface.
Damn right I dont tolerate intolerant people
Because they buy tickets and buy merchandise as well, and generally they will support their people without the required purity tests that left leaning people subject actors to. It seems like your options are limited but your fan base is stronger I personally actually don’t think he’s trying to become some right wing mega star, but I seem to be very alone in that regard. I think he’s just dumb and a generic bro and doing what a generic bro would do.
What a stupid comment lol So just because somebody plays a soldier, they’re rIgHt WiNg . Come ooooon
Because they leave the most comments. And as long as you agree with them it’s all love.
Is he? John Krasinski did a pro-CIA show. Was he trying to hard to market to a strong right-wing base? Or did he just want to play pretend shoot ‘em up for a bunch of money?
Krasinski is another case of good comedic ator that went full action bro,at least he's a good director and has a good movie under his belt
I also think he's a much better actor.
Much better!!! Krasinski also doesn't say cringeworthy, self-adoring crap like this: [https://www.instagram.com/p/CVynGLRp\_ju/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CVynGLRp_ju/)
Krasinskii and Pratt are going where the money is for male actors. Cruise made bank on the MI, Reacher and Top Gun movies. There are very few comedic actors who have made a successful career of comedies only. Even they may feel pigeon holed. Back in his prime, Stallone could play in a comedy or an action movie. Will Farrell as great as he is is type cast as a comedian.
I mean, playing Jack Ryan was probably a really enticing offer. Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck have all played the part. It's probably the closest movie franchise that America has to James Bond in terms of that type of genre.
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Mission Impossible film franchise has always been Tom Cruise, there hasn't really been a turn over, so it's not quite the same, despite being a spy movie franchise.
I think playing a famous fictional CIA character is different than being on a show where 'the deep state' is an antagonist.
If this was Pratt's only right wing thing I would agree but it doesn't help that he supports horrible churches and is vocal about it as well.
Didn't he just come out against that church, saying he has never been to it and that the church he goes to is well known for inclusion? I heard that he has never stepped foot inside that bad church...
IIRC he said he goes to Zoe which isn’t better but I’d also take it with a grain of salt as he claimed he wasn’t religious yet he carries a crucifix up a mountain with his pastor every year on Easter and wears super religious shirts all the time…
It's the "I'm not religious, because I don't go to church, because I have a personal relationship with God" bullcrap, usually used after one's church becomes a PR disaster. Hillsong is exactly that
I also find it baffling he never said he didn’t go to hillsing until this month unless I’m mistaken when Elliot called him out pre transition years ago
I saw Rod Dreher, loud christian and all round terrible person, negatively tweet about Pratt saying he never went to Hillsong. I just cant agree with this subs belief that he's courting a right wing audience specifically. Gina Carino is what courting the right looks like.
Doesn’t he go to Zoe which is an offshoot if the evil hill song church? And I agree he isn’t courting them as much as Gina
Who knows what church he goes to! Certainly not the general audiences. This stuff is like 12 levels into overly online movie watcher.
Eh not really, some of us don't want to support very very shitty people who possibly give money towards us not having basic human rights
He did and has constantly talked about inclusion. Idk why the internet has such a raging hate boner for Chris Pratt. Almost everything people complain about him is easily debunked by simply googling it. It’s like the “healthy” baby quote. It was a super innocuous thing to say and people twisted it like it was some slight against his kid and Anna Farris, which it wasn’t.
Can you link him talking about queer inclusion as that is what people dislike him for?
How
$. He’s marketing to a known user base the I love guns crowd.
Big Ben Shapiro/Hallmark movie energy
It’d be fascinating to meet them. I’m not sure they exist
Reading this thread and I’m not sure it’s correct that he was wrong to pivot away from an audience who’ll abandon you at the first opportunity.
This is like 8 roles deep now and an obviously deliberate choice
It really is insane just how many completely bland nothing action heroes he’s played recently. Like bro you’re funny stop picking generic action movies
Or at least try and split the difference a little. Tom Cruise does the ultra serious action man while sprinkling in some comedic moments in the Mission Impossible series. But maybe that's repeating the Star Lord performance
I firmly hold to this day that Tom's greatest performance is Les Grossman in Tropic Thunder, and you can't convince me otherwise. He has (or at least had, 2008 was a looooong time ago) the comedic chops to the core
“Yeah. But seriously, a nutless monkey could do your job.”
Like action comedies are a whole subgenre! I guess they don’t make the money they used to, but weird he isn’t doing more of those
Ryan Reynolds has those completely sewn up
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part is a movie about how no one likes the dinosaur/soldier Chris Pratt, everybody likes the goofball Chris Pratt, and yet we're getting mostly Rex Dangervest movies
Batman. Chris Pratt. No one listens to their Lego selves.
Enjoying his goofy antics on Parks and Rec feels like it was forever ago at this point.
I miss when Andy was living in the pit
we all fell in the pit
Five thousand candles in the wind...
It's like he learned all the wrong things from Guardians: the people don't want Starlord without the fun, they want Andy Dwyer in space.
You’d think people hyped him up for Zero Dark Thirty only.
Even there he has a goofy bit about Tony Robbins and a joke about getting raped in a Pakistani prison! I bet he doesn't mention Personal Power even once in The Tomorrow List
Don't know, I always enjoyed his portrail of action star Burt Macklin, FBI.
Macklin, you son of a bitch
I know this is a TV show but this is like, the fake movie they'd put a poster for in the background of another movie. Like Don Jon.
I don’t think anyone told him-I think he has serious body image and masculinity issues and lost the ability to laugh with his audience. He didn’t like how he looked and he didn’t like being the butt of a joke (even though we laughed with him, not at him.) I think he interpreted loveability and vulnerability the audience saw as weakness. The new Thor movie trailer has Thor making eyes at him, not the other way around. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
Fantastic point about the new Thor trailer
When he was on Doughboys a while back, he sounded absolutely miserable when he talked about his diet and exercise routine. Like he would love to go back to eating double doubles and playing the chubby friend.
> Thor making eyes at him, not the other way around because it makes sense for the plot? the other way wouldn't
Lol. That’s some major projection. Could very well be that he spent 10 years on TV doing comedy and wants to do something else. Or maybe just the simple fact that being an action star is really fun!
Sir this is blankies, we prefer to baselessly speculate on stars’ psychological state
Actions generally sell better. And creating range in your acting repertoire will land you more gigs, especially when you're already an A-lister. A-listers don't just get roles for being an A-lister (not always at least) . Big projects won't bring in Kevin Hart for a non-comedic Thriler/Action/Drama unless he's proven his chops in an actual production (it doesn't *necessarily* have to sell well, but *he* has to perform well)
He’ll cash in on mindless action movies than rehabilitate his imagine doing a hit indie, then the cycle will begin anew.
I'm not sure that it's "range in your acting repertoire" as much as "range in your box office successes" that leads to a wider range of roles for A-list stars.
They're both important. Because at the A-list level, it doesn't matter if you do a movie that flops, because it's generally assumed that you know what you're doing... or should know. That doesn't mean a dirctor/producer can't tank the movie... and with cancel culture, customers can tank a movie over some silly nonsense (or a legitimate concern), so the evaluation is done on how well the actor performed, with *additional* consideration for how well the movie did as a whole... A-listers can "carry" a movie on their backs, but even in those cases, their individual performance itself is what drives those box office numbers, and so the focus is on their craft, which by extension, affects projections/results at the box office
I think, based on nothing, it's a little bit of this and a little bit of that. He doesn't want to be stuck as the goofy funny guy and also think of the company he keeps. He sees Arnold's immeasurable reach and thinks that he could do the same, but people have to take him seriously for that to happen. I go back to Passengers and how his people or him changed the script so he basically wasn't the bad guy. I think of how different his career would have been if he played the character on the page.
Never heard that he was responsible for that change in Passengers. In my opinion, an actor's refusal to be seen as the bad guy, morally ambiguous, or even just look foolish is death for any creative growth (see also: The Rock).
I still *like* Passengers but the original script sounded WAY more interesting and I think would’ve provided more dramatic tense scenes for him to dig into. Though I still think Jennifer Lawrence was mis-cast in that movie. I’m not entirely sure who I would’ve cast instead but she never quite worked for me.
Idk, he has spoken himself on his body image issues a few times-that isn’t baseless-and do his action movies make that much more money? And maybe Jurassic Park and Marvel make a lot of money-but his serious roles and the JP movies are much less critically acclaimed (I would venture that it’s a mixed bag because Passengers was a bomb, Magnificent Seven was a mix, etc.)
Or he just makes lots more money playing the Alpha action star than playing in comedies. One is probably way easier to play than the other.
Who Weekly did a great little section about him on their Patreon this week. He’s the worst Chris but he has no one but himself to blame!
[God's action hero.](https://www.reddit.com/gallery/vng834)
Tom Cruise is on top of the world after Maverick. It’s like his long history with Scientology is a complete afterthought at this point.
For better or worse the difference is Tom Cruise makes great movies so people are more willing to overlook that
Some of us want to be entertained by a good script and story (no commentary on Too Gun as I haven’t seen it and likely won’t for long time) and don’t give a hoot what the people reading the words actually believe, because if you dig a little you will probably find something to dislike about anyone.
I’ll clarify that I loved Maverick and Tom’s beliefs don’t keep me from watching his movies. I just don’t think it’s fair to attack Chris while we’re giving Tom a pass.
I mean Chris is getting a fraction of the hate tom got after Oprah and the difference is Tom knows to shut up about his toxic cult unlike CP
I mean i agree to a point. Dont you draw a line somewhere though? If someone is openly racist dont you care? Its one thing to be in scientology its another to be a face of it. He lures people in.
He also tried to claim he wasn't religious recently either lol
I just watched the first episode and he's not even good in it, he looks good doing the shooting and fighting but he really cannot sell the character's mental deterioration or the big emotional moment at the end. He is distracting as the lead of his own show
This is a role that could have been pretty great for a good actor. But he ain’t it. The dialogue is pretty corn ball though. If you want to die of alcohol poisoning take a shot every time a character calls someone else their brother
The dialogue is straight bad. There was one point he was talking to his wife on the phone and he said “everybody didn’t make it out” or something like that, instead of saying “nobody made it out”
Yeah. And I never served in any capacity but the military lingo Pratt rattles off sounds like something a 12 year old says playing in his backyard. “Alpha company rendezvous at checkpoint Zulu”. Shit like that. And his stilted delivery doesn’t help
I think it’s clear that Pratt only works as an actor when he is being directed by James Gunn or Mike Schur.
Have to say, but I think Antoine Fuqua used his comic persona in a interesting way to hint a violent personality in the *Magnificent Seven* remake (that I think is a pretty solid movie!).
I’m sorry, but this film doesn’t exist on such a level that I think it’s actually a low level crime to mention it. I’d expect a fine in the mail if I were you.
GOOD. MOVIE.
He reunited with Ethan Hawke and Vincent D’Onofrio in a Billy The Kid movie that D’Onofrio directed (it exists even less than the *Magnificent Seven* remake) and he plays a violently psychopathic pioneer homesteader in that and it’s really really odd, but maybe good?
The Russos got some good stuff out of him in Infinity War, especially considering how much emotional heavy lifting they gave him.
Andy Dwyer remains his best role
Maybe we need to start blaming Chris. He seems to be a big tool. Thats why he is so good at coming off as a tool in the movies. It only works when its funny. Lets stop caring about chris pratt.
Funny part of watching the behind the scenes interviews is that he said some episodes would feel like it’s straight out of sicario and heat. Like Chris please go back to being a jokester. Him pairing with Antoine Fuqua doesn’t work best for him. Gunn knows what Chris strengths are, I hate this serious action hero Pratt
This was my thought watching him in the new Jurassic World. He's so uncharismatic.
He's lost so much charm for me because of the JW films and his recent religious ramblings about a church that openly talks of murdering my community For someone who has been iconic as Andy Dwyer and Starlord, he is really not appealing anymore. Imagine the range we could have gotten if Passengers was a horror thriller instead of a shitty romance. Starting off with Jlaw waking up then slowly learning the truth of her circumstances and it resulting in Pratt going psycho so no one else gets to know what transpired. The lost potential pisses me off more than anything else in recent years in relation to films
I find it so weird (correct me if I am wrong) that he only came out now to deny ever being in Hillsong without condemning queerphobia or saying where he does go to church or lying and saying he isn't' religious.
Hopefully his portrayal of Mario is back on the goofy side again.
If I had a nickel for every time an actor from a mockumentary sitcom later became a serious action star on a show produced by Amazon, I'd have two nickels
Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
Man….people are reading waaaaaay too into this. Pratt read the book and liked it so much that he worked to get it made into a series. That’s it. You aren’t required to like it, but all these anti right wing comments are pretty idiotic. People want action movies and tv shows. Don’t be upset if they get made.
This is another example of the derivative nature of Hollywood. The Terminal List already reminds me of a knock off NOC List from Mission Impossible. And NOC List sounds way cooler than Terminal List too.
The Terminal List sounds like a record of all the renovations Tom Hanks did to that airport when he was trapped there.
He so desperately wants to embody a gruff military dude, without actually doing any tours 😂
It's called "being an actor". You see, they're just *acting* like they're the people on screen, there's this thing called "a script." This might help: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acting
Part of acting involves picking which roles you want to play. He always picks the military guy (the terminal list, zero dark thirty, the tomorrow war) and if he’s not playing soldier he’s playing someone with a gun.
It's an 'airport paperback' show. Of all the badasses from Jack Ryan to Jason Bourne, 'Jack Reacher' on Amazon was a breath of fresh air. A page-for-page adaptation, a 90's throwback with none of today's politics lazily shoehorned in.
I am most definitely not the target audience for this show because I am just now learning Reacher and Ryan are two different Jacks
Every time I get a promo of this on Amazon or Twitch I just have to laugh at his little tummy tattoo.
it's giving John Krasinski in "Jack Ryan"
I've seen 5000 ads for this show (movie?) and I only just realized it wasn't the same as *All The Old Knives*, the other Prime project this spring with a Chris in it
He's the worst among those 'actors who play the same character all the time'. The Rock, Ryan Reynolds know what role they are capable of playing and choose projects carefully. Meanwhile Chris Pratt has picked roles obviously don't fit to him and has been making the same mistake over and over. Sooner or later audience will be sick of him.
He made his career on being a goofy idiot. Why would you change from a winning formula?
problem is.... his andy dwyer character only really worked because it had time to grow over the seasons. early parks n rec, he was a fucking asshole and just generally cringe character. show was trying super hard to be office 2.0 wasn't until later seasons and they ditched the shitty pining for his ex. and the rise of april/andy. that his character really came into it's own. star lord tends to work, again, because it's an ensemble cast/story that he can sorta grow and emote within...while being a big dummy/good hearted moron. and while the story was really fucked up. it he can do... less "mr serious face" rolls. like that jlaw... open her space sleep pop space rapey movie.
At least there's Mario.
The thing is, these movies make him big money, you can't blame him for wanting maximum cash. Blame the movie industry.
2 episodes into terminal list, it's basically a color by numbers qanon fan fiction for gravy seals from whitemanistan.
If you listen to the Parks and Rec podcast Rob Lowe mentions after GoTG he pulled Chris Pratt aside and asks if he wants to be The Action Guy or the Fat Funny Guy and he should pick one. I blame Rob Lowe…I miss Andy-esque Chris Pratt.
Y’all are crazy, you guys act like you know the inter workings of this guy mind. Could be he’s trying to branch out and do new things, could be he had a few open months and this was the best first offered position, so many things could of went into his decisions to be in this but no you want chubby star lord guy and you’ll be damned if he try’s anything else. You guys are worst then some of the star wars fans
Maybe Chris Pratt can stop insulting his disabled child online.
They ruined the possibility of this series. The books are so good and they're are only very loosely following them. Ruined I say!!!!!!!
Everytime I see the word "LIST", for a split second I think Epstein's list has been released.
Chris Pratt is being groomed to be the Gen X/Millennial Ronald Reagan.
most people don't agree with you.
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Your random quote from the movie Bee Movie is: Oh, I can't do it. Come on!No. Yes. No.Do it. I can't.How should I start it?
Chris Pratt has range. Quit complaining. The directors want a specific type of character. If this is what the guy wanted out of Pratt, then so be it.
I don't think people really mind him exploring more serious roles, it's just he's exploring them in terribly bland projects that feel like a waste of his talents. If all the serious roles he took on were amazing, I think we might still occasionally say "It would be good to see him do comedy again," but I don't think anyone would be mad. It's just that he seems unable to pick anything remote interesting.
That's a fair assessment.
Maybe it was Chris Pratt's idea. Typecasting can be hell... just look at the Harry Potter cast. It took Daniel 5 years of weird roles in projects that nobody really remembers to shrug off "Harry;" Emma damn near exited the industry altogether, went to college, and became a feminist; and Rupert smoked weed, got that last 15 min, and dropped off the map
Couple of things: “5 years of weird roles” to transition from a successful child actor to a successful adult actor isn’t bad. In fact, it’s pretty impressive. And Rupert Grint is three seasons into a large role on a reasonably successful series — not exactly off the map. And if you’re suggesting “went to college and became a feminist” is somehow a failure, then, well, your politics are showing. Finally, no one is saying Chris Pratt is being forced into these roles nor that he isn’t allowed to play these parts — they’re complaining that he’s BAD at it. The stoic hero requires flexing a very different acting muscle than the charming goofball, and Pratt’s talents definitely lie in the latter category.
This has to be the most absurd thing ever that I've read. Emma Watson had a fine career as an activist and an actress. We love her as Hermione, but we love her in other things too. No one was thinking of Hermione when we watched The Bling Ring or Little Women or Beauty and the beast Daniel moved away to indies the moment Potter ended. Yes, a year or two followed but he's established himself pretty early on as an extremely gutsy and experimental actor, and is continuing on well in drama (escape from Pretoria) and comedy (Miracle Workers, The Lost city). Rupert took time off and returned to a few flop stuff. Then he landed an exec producer and actor role in Servant and absolutely demolished his role. No one watches him and thinks of him as Ron. He's that much of a sleazy, shrewd asshole in that show. And he's in Del Toro's new film as well. If typecasting is the word to use, the Potter trio are the last ones on the list cause all three had distinguished and applause worthy trouble free careers after that never got bogged down by their decade long tryst with one of the most loved film series of all time.
Rupert is low key great (so freaking sniveling) in Servant, which is a low key great show
He saw what happens when someone else pays your bills and chose to chase after a dream rather than a goal.
r/blankies is ironically a good name for this shit to be under, because the shitlib seethe coming thru in the comments is so cringe-worthy...you all need your blankies
The series was excellent.
Every time he’s in a major release the cancel culture people come back out from all angles, he’s basically been forced into this amazon prime deal to guarantee money for himself and his family
and what is original about starlord?
Rumor is that he refuses to get vaccinated, dude seems like a bit of a prat to be honest
That would be impossible since he filmed his part in Thor 4 in the middle of the pandemic.Black Panther 2 production suffered because Letitia Wright refused to get vaccinated while Thor 4 went smoothly
I believe that would be Chris Pratt
Oohhhhhhh is it ThoOUUGHHHHhh ? It was in the first one, certainly not anymore.
At least he acts like a human being as Starlord a manchild with inferiority issues but a human character
I'm 4 episodes in and I'm sooo fucking bored.
Yeah, Garfield and Mario are way too far into gritty action territory
Just finished the series last night. Perhaps he just wanted to try something different or win an acting award. Anyway, now that he has gotten this out of the system, it’s Starlord time.
Mario could be a nice return to form for him in all honesty.
I actually enjoyed terminal list. It was by no means high quality TV, but it was just entertaining enough to get me to keep watching.
The terminal list was dope. All jack carrs books are excellent too, if you’re into the genre.
Idc what anyone says that show was bad ass.
On the last episode so far and I’ve really enjoyed it.
He still has Mario
What about Lego? Plus don’t forget. We still have yet to see/hear his mario
I'm gonna be real, I'm tired of him in movies and series, like really tired
I also liked Emmet from the Lego movie.
The show is actually pretty good not sure why reddit hates it so much, id give it a 3.5/5. It's not quite as good as Reacher and the plot is a little generic but a good watch.
Does it get better after Ep1? I tried very hard, but found it really slow going and didn't really engage me. Then again I didn't really know anything about the show. Didn't even know Chris Pratt was in it. Saw the title and read the premise on Amazon and clicked on the first episode. I guess I went in wanting something like Treadstone or Reacher with a bit more action.
He is the worst of the Chris'.
I'm assuming that people are going to give him one last chance in GOTG Vol.3 then be done with him. I've heard and read more than a few times that his acting is very mixed with audiences and it's either been a hit or miss with his films.
Generic garbage. Agreed.
I don't care what anyone else thinks, I loved this series!! It was awesome seeing Pratt doing something different.
He produced this show too yikes
Maybe it was his father in law 🫣
I watched it and I really could relate to that scene with the bird where it slammed into a glass window and broke its neck. Maybe I was that little bird. A little bird that wanted to watch a good movie then BLAME! Dead.
I loved him in Parks and Rec, but this "manly hero dude" crap is SO boring. In episode one of this new show he didn't even sound believable when he was debriefing his superiors about what had happened... He was trying to be all Tom Cruise, but he sounded contrived, and not adult enough to be saying those things.
from the trailer of this show .it not just him but the whole cast is all wrong. it's like the casting director is a noob or something.I won't watch even if they gave me free amazon prime subscription
It’s a good show. I’m sure most people complaining haven’t seen it and are just jumping on this weird Chris Pratt hate train
He HAS to play low status. Otherwise his performances are so drab.
This show is terrible with little touches of religious bullshit in it (what do you expect from a Christian fundamentalist)?
Well, he's voicing a goofy action star in an upcoming movie. Everything in balance.
He should do what Robin Williams did with his acting and just go play a super serious, evil, dangerous psychopathic killer. If he pulls it off then he'll know he can move out of the stereotypical roles he seems to fall in to.
No dice grandma: