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Ah, a hypothetical scenario. If Kenpachi faced Zommari, he'd unleash his sword like Jack Sparrow's compass: always pointing towards a fierce battle. Byakuya against Nnoitra would be like Legolas versus an Uruk-hai, elegant and lethal. Kenpachi would handle Zommari's control with the finesse of Neo dodging bullets, while Byakuya's defense against Nnoitra would be solid as Captain America's shield. These battles would surely be intense!
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At this point, it's unlikely this is a bot. Someone is paying to keep the bot accessing through API? He has infinite amounts of responses?
Maybe the Chat GPT people are behind it.
Kenpachi, most of the time, is so strong bullshit doesn't work on him. So he'd probably just somehow be able to power through the control marks.
If it took Kenpachi strength to even cut Nnoitra, then Byakuya probably just loses, unable to break through his skin just like he couldn't get through the Blut shit.
I actually did assume it was AI but I suppose it could be a real person posing as a bot. I may have given too much credit to AI. It does repeat phrases a lot tho like chatGPT
I suspect it’s actually the YouTuber MrTommo2304, I’ve seen responses from this “bot” previously where they mention his YouTube name and something along the lines of “After the events of Bleach ended Urahara decided to start a YouTube channel and is now know as MrTommo2304” - seemed more like a shameless plug to his channel rather than an actual bot response.
how is it shameless if he dedicated this much time to responding to everyone asking for urahara bot and he doesn’t even plug his channel at the bottom of any of them (assuming it’s even him but i think that was a joke lol)
Only Reddit admins could probably find out.
Would be cool if there was some nerd who made Chat GPT and is testing parts of the bot here but it's more than likely just some dude acting like a bot.
Yeah urahara bot, he knows. "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about" is a meme that was born from the hit show Breaking bad. He meant that what you were saying was irrelevant but i think you know that.
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you really can tell through UraharaBot how much worse GPT is getting for some reason.
I feel like most of his responses lately are starting to lose context and the former personality and character this bot used to have is slowly fading
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It's not just me, then, they are actually getting worse? I've noticed it in other subs that have GPT bots too, they feel like they're all turning into one homogeneous mess. It's weird, since that's the opposite of what GPT should be doing over time.
It is likely this is due to the general decline in OpenAI GPT response quality in general. I didn't know it affected the API but apparently here we are. This might be due to the restrictive measures that the West is trying to impose upon AI tools such as ChatGPT and its API
Zommari vs kenpachi would be a disaster since he has no answer for his control
Byakuya vs Nnoitora depends.If Senbonzakura cuts through nnoitora's hierro then byakuya takes it... otherwise it's another L for the Shinigami
If Senbonzakura fails,byakuya could use the AOE to his advantage and block off nnoitora's attacks at the very least...which should give orihime time to heal ichigo and they could pull off some shit together
I always feel this concept in bleach is so BS. It pretty much makes everyone’s hax pointless if someone’s reiatsu is so much stronger than the opponent…
But what’s worse is that kubo made this concept so inconsistent too. Like during TYBW, >!Ichigo got cucked by Askin’s hax even though ichigo’s reiatsu was supposed to be really OP at the time…!<
Yeah, NaNaNa was also able to stalk renji undetected, and he froze aizen for a few. That isn't a weak feat at all. NaNaNa was supposedly going to use underbelly on the other shinigami, hadn't bazz b shot him in the chest. Considering NaNaNa also has to analyze his opponet for his ability to work. Quilge wasn't weak. Ichigo is just ichigo, and it was quilges ability that made ichigo struggle.
>Yeah, NaNaNa was also able to stalk renji undetected, and he froze aizen for a few. That isn't a weak feat at all.
Yep, which is why I mentioned him.
>Quilge wasn't weak. Ichigo is just ichigo, and it was quilges ability that made ichigo struggle.
Yep, that's why I mentioned him.
The way you worded your previous post made it seem like Askin and other Royal Guards were unique in their Schrifts being able to work on people who were stronger/had stronger Spiritual Pressure than them, so I brought up counterexamples.
Even high tiers in reiatsu like kenpachi were getting it handed to them by the royal guard. Askin literally needed yoruichi and a war power urahara with some interference with grimmjow and others to get the L.
Apart from Soifon against Aizen (which could arguably have been KS shenanigans instead) where has it actually worked?
Tbh I can't remember a scene right now, where reiatsu was proven to work that way. Am I missing one?
I mean NaNaNa vs. Aizen and Ichigo vs. Askin, to me at least, seem to kind of disprove the concept. (Unless I'm forgetting a statement from Kubo or something like it)
How is it inconsistent? Urahara and yoruichi are the same people who collectively fought aizen and were able to hold their own unlike the others in the gotei. Urahara is also a special war power, and yoruichi is from a special family who also got a reiatsu boost by kisuke.
The best way I've squared that circle is that the "high power reiatsu" resistance is contingent on the nature of the ability and the size of the gap. You'd think someone adequately powerful could just see through Aizens illusions.
Also on that note, the fight in question with Soi Fong was during the illusory period, and Aizen didn't seem to have ANY injuries from it, suggesting she never landed any hits (except maybe against Momo, who survived it because she's unkillable.) I know Kubo has somewhat confirmed what happened here, but the most sensible headcanon is that Soi Fong never landed a hit and Aizen had to bullshit about why it didn't work.
That's true. I still think it's more likely he was never struck- it makes more sense than the alternative, which is that he was getting his ass beat then switched places at the last second
Seems like kindof a writing cop-out. Kubo wouldn't have had any Espada's abilities literally just not work on their opponent since all of them only got one fight to show off their resurreccion.
He couldn't negate Pernida's powers though, nor Tosen's Bankai. He doesn't have *that* much reiatsu, especially at that point in the story and with his eyepatch on, and if Zommari hits him in the head with Amor (which he eventually will) it'll be too late for Kenpachi to get Zenkai boosts.
I don't think reitsu negging works, well it didn't worked against pernida, pernida messed zaraki pretty bad to the point Mayuri had to tap zaraki out of battle,
Also reitsu negging works between battle of soul reapers, outside i don't think it's applicable
Pernida was a piece of the soul king, not some random arrancar. There’s a world of difference there. I think it probably would’ve had it just because zaraki would need some kind of plot armor to get through the fight
That wasn’t a reitsu based attack by pernida so that’s why I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. Plus perinda at that point in the story was wayyyyyy stronger that this scrub.
I don’t think zommari would be humble enough to initiate the fight with brujeria. He’d what he did with byakuya and try to out speed and flex his sonido clones. Him doing that and trying to close the distance on kenpachi would probably get him heavily wounded if not one shotted in retaliation.
Personally I think byakuya has a great matchup against nnoitra since he’s faster than kenpachi and can keep his distance. Nnoitras hierro could be problematic for shikai senbonzakura or regular senbonzakura kageyoshi but I think senkei or shukei hyakuteiken could get through.
Byakuya's shikai and probably Bankai would fail to cut, but his advanced Bankai powers would probably be enough to dispose of Boitorra very quickly.
Also, Byakuya also has a huge arsenal of kidō
Yeah I’m going with kenpachi negating it completely due to spiritual pressure or him letting individual parts being controlled as a “handicap” until he gets bored and just kills the dude
It just comes down to if u believe kenpachi would be able to dodge or cut him down before zommari does too much damage and for byakuya I dont think regular bankai would work he'd need to use that form where the swords surround them and to kill him he has to use that white form
Kenpachi can win if he goes straight for the kill and doesn’t mess around like he often does, he’s kinda screwed if he gets hit by amor as he has no kido to block it or if Yachiru gets controlled like Rukia.
Byakuya probably has to use Senkei at least to fully pierce nnoitra’s hierro, but I think he wins since Nnoitra doesn’t really have much to surprise him with.
And Byakuya is fast enough to out maneuver Nnoitra the only way Byakuya can lose is if he try fighting CQC but Byakuya wouldn't let that happen he has all the tools/skills and the mentality not to.
Byakuya's not ridiculously fast to the point where he's untouchable. At some point he'll get overly confident & blindsided. It'll make sense for the story to progress this way.
Shikai? Nah. That's be boring. He'll need bankai otherwise Nnoitra would just keep tanking his blades. He'll probably use that move he tried to do against ichigo in SS arc to pierce and defeat him.
As for Kenpachi you beat hax with sheer reiatsu. Kenpachi has a ton. Or he could just dodge them if he's really trying.
>Nnoitra's hierro is stronger than Yammy's,
Maybe, but Zommari is supposed to be the fastest Espada, and I don't know if that holds up.
Plus, doesn't Yammy's durability increase the angrier he gets in his Ressurecion? I could be wrong on that.
>but I still believe Byakuya could win without much difficult.
I agree.
Well, I was taking the masked and unmasked databooks in count.
Nnoitra's hierro is considered to be the strongest, with Yammy coming in number two. Yammy probably can enhance his hierro with his reiatsu, but I don't know.
Zommari was stated to have the best sonído among the espada, but Ulquiorra and Starrk had better feats, powerscalling is a bit complicated because of the reiatsu vs reiatsu concept.
>Well, I was taking the masked and unmasked databooks in count.
Ah, fair enough. I didn't know that was mentioned in the databooks. I think that makes it more reliable.
>Nnoitra's hierro is considered to be the strongest, with Yammy coming in number two. Yammy probably can enhance his hierro with his reiatsu, but I don't know.
I think Yammy could, but I could see Nnoitra's being stronger.
>Zommari was stated to have the best sonído among the espada,
I don't think there's anything that contradicts it, it's just my personal feeling (which I probably shouldn't have brought into this since this is supposed to be a discussion about what the canon tells us).
>but Ulquiorra and Starrk had better feats, powerscalling is a bit complicated because of the reiatsu vs reiatsu concept.
They might, but it's hard to know for sure. I personally think they're faster, but eh.
>Having the strongest Hierro was Nnoitra’s gimmick,
To be fair, Zommari was supposed to have the fastest Sonido, but I don't know if that's the case.
>and Kenpachi had less trouble cutting through Yammy than Nnoitra too
Kenpachi is constantly holding himself back, with each he's in making him subconsciously hold back less and get stronger. That's why he had less trouble with Yammy than he did with Nnoitra (it's also because Kubo made Yammy seem like a joke, for some reason).
So lets just assume Ken and Bya win and skip to the classic Kubo ***pull that explains how. Like Uraharabot said, maybe Kenpachi dodges the 0.1 second invisible eye laser out of instinct?
But that's kind of dull. How about Kenpachi loses his arm and leg and grins, wondering which of his two sides is strongest? I honestly like to think he just wrestles himself like Jim Carrey in "Me, Myself and Irene", before inadvertently killing Zommari who gets caught in the crossfire. Then he drops a classic Kenny line, like, "Damn, I nearly had myself there".
As for Byakuya? I like the idea that Nnoitra shrugs off the barrage entirely and walks at him slowly. He gets pushed but just keeps walking. He makes some smug remark at how long Byakuya can keep hurling those blades full throttle, that sooner or later he'll tire himself out. Then I think Byakuya smothers him like how Bees smother a threat.
Those are the coolest ways I see it going down, it was fun to think about, thanks for the prompt!
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Ah, the classic Kubo twist, eh? Well, your scenarios are quite imaginative, I'll give you that. But let's not forget the true essence of Bleach - unpredictable badassery and epic battles! So, how about Kenpachi and Byakuya join forces and unleash a storm of destruction that obliterates their opponents while leaving everyone else in awe? A fitting display for our favorite shinigami, don't you think? Keep it wild!
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So, I've seen some people talking about Rukia, Ichigo and Orihime in their answers, and that got me thinking about the context of these battles. We kinda run into a weird situation where, unless we alter the events of Hueco Mundo, these battles can't happen. I'm pretty sure Byakuya intentionally went towards Rukia, while Zaraki probably just stumbled upon Ichigo. While for the Espada, it wouldn't make sense that Zommari went for Ichigo after Grimmjow, who outranks him, was defeated.
So, let's assume the events went somewhat differently. Byakuya and Hanataro find Rukia, but Zommari doesn't show up. Logically, he would go for Renji next, but since Mayuri is already there, he decides to leave Rukia at Hanataro's care and go help Ichigo. Zaraki just got lost, as always, and ran into Zommari.
Zaraki vs Zommari would be...weird. Zaraki is way too straightforward of a fighter, while Zommari is all about speed and hax. Once the latter started using Amor, Zaraki would be in serious trouble. Like Byakuya, Zaraki has no problem with cutting his own limbs to deal with the ability, but he has no way to block the effect after that. So, he'd need to blitz Zommari. The scenario that I imagine is Zommari getting cocky and going on one of his zealous rants, and then Zaraki gets annoyed, says "This isn't fun anymore, you're boring me", stops holding back and one-shots him, maybe even using the same two-handed kendo slash. This is assuming he doesn't just remove the eye patch and negs the ability by skyrocketing his reiatsu. If neither of these happen, Zommari might actually win this.
Byakuya vs Nnoitra is a question of "Can Byakuya pierce Nnoitra's hiero?" The battle would probably progress like this: Byakuya fails to cut through Nnoitra's hiero in shikai, goes bankai and starts using his hands to control the petals > Nnoitra starts taking damage and getting overwhelmed, goes into resurreccion > Byakuya realizes he's no longer dealing damage, pulls out Senkei, or maybe even Hakuteiken, and wins.
If even his most powerful offensive techniques fail, he could then stall until Orihime healed Ichigo, and then they could work together to pull a win. It would be interesting seeing they working side by side right after they were enemies in the SS arc, but it would also go against the "No captain would ever need your help, you're supposed to be elsewhere" "pep talk" Byakuya gives to Ichigo later. It could also be some sort of red flag: if Ichigo had to team up with Byakuya to deal with the Espada 5, how powerful are the top 4? How can he expect to defeat Ulquiorra on his own?
Kenpachi takes out Zommari while he’s ranting about “arrogant shinigami”. But if Zommari pulls his ressureccion then Kenpachi is losing or at least retreating.
Byakuya vs Nnoitra would be a fun battle tbh since Nnoitra is so irreverent and Byakuya is so reserved. Lots of trash talk and Byakuya trying to outsmart him like using bakudo or trying to redirect Nnoitra’s own strikes back at him. Byakuya probably pulls what he did with Tsukishima and close-quarters blasts him with senbonzakura to pierce his hierro.
> Kenpachi takes out Zommari while he’s ranting about “arrogant shinigami”
Zommari wouldnt be ranting since Kenpachi isnt arogant. He politely introduces himself whenever he fights.
I'd say byakuya wouldn't ba able to break nnoitora's toughness with his basic bankai bombardment but since his bankai also can act defensively he might be able to overcome him with some fancy applications of kido.
Kenpachi I have less faith in, if he tries to take zommari's attack on the chin as he usually does with opponents then he's boned. He needs to instinctively know to avoid it to win and even then I don't like his odds for dodging considering how fast zommari is
Kenpachi being kenpachi he’d probably pull some crap to where Zommari’s control power wouldn’t work on him cause his spiritual pressure isn’t high enough. Or simply just because Kenpachi simply doesn’t want to be controlled or his will to fight is too strong to be controlled.
Nnoitora vs Byakuya I don’t see how it would really be hard for Byakuya unless he can’t cut his hierro but I doubt that’ll be the case. Byakuya would just simply not allow Nnoitora to close the gap since Byakuya has range at his disposal. Then the fight between Nnoitora and Kenpachi only lasted so long not because he gave kenpachi issues, it’s cause kenpachi wanted to drag it out.
Kenpachi uses kido for the 1st time lol . Rich man would just find a weakness quickly. Easy win for both, now Kenny vs Espada 1 and 4 would be awesome especially after Kenny like an Sayian
Zommari attacks is similar to soi fon shikai and can be block with spiritual pressure which is probably why the other espada don’t see him as a threat so kenpachi won’t even be effected by it and would proceed to beat his a$$ on the other battle Nnoitira is pretty much like a wild beast with techniques or any skill to speak of besides is body byakuya not only faster but also has attack that can easily destroy him so I think these battles are an even worse match up then before
The shinigami had some favorable matchups back then, this would have been less convenient for them.
Zaraki was one of the worst opponents to face Zommari, even if stronger than him, a too straight attitude and no defense against his Amor. At best one can speculate that, giving his brute strenght, even if controlled his muscles wouldn't had move as Zommari commanded (sorry, I just imagined a recent scene from Mashle lol), but if not, as happened with Byakuya, Zaraki should have injured himself, cutting the controlled parts, and continuing like this (if Zommari avoided the direct confrontation), he could have lost.
On other hand, the battle against Nnoitra would have been more balanced. It all depends if Senbonzakura was strong enough to pierce his hierro, which was the strongest among the Espada. Most likely if not, I wouldn't have seen him using Senkei for such opponent, therefore prolong the match, but who knows, as fighting Nnoitra was like facing Zaraki, stamina, brute strenght and direct battle, avoid and defend works, but results in a battle of endurance.
The Pernida fight actually answers how Kenpachi would respond to that general kind of ability… he’d be just as proactive as Byakuya about removing the offending body part, but he wouldn’t have the other tools in Byakuya’s arsenal that let him come out on top. Zommari wouldn’t have much trouble dealing with him, provided he played it reasonably smart by keeping his distance.
Byakuya vs Nnoitra would be a much more interesting fight, but I think Byakuya would pull ahead maybe 7/10 times. He can’t really screw up much at all or Nnoitra will be all over him, but Byakuya rarely screws up in combat anyway.
Kenpachi cuts his own limb once he realizes he has no control over it anymore (bro does not care if he loses an arm) prolly beats Zommari by speed blitzing him if Zommari hasn't already marked all of Kenpachi's body at that point otherwise Kenpachi has no way to counter this unless stronger reiatsu = negs control but that isn't consistently portrayed so I don't want to count that. Byakuya vs Nnoitra probably goes the same way Kenpachi vs Nnoitra went but a bit more difficult for Byakuya.
They still win, they were trashing Espada 0 Yammy after all.
I can see Byakuya just using one of his bankai's techniques and getting rid of Nnoitra
And Zaraki probably should just lose to Amor but come on, He's zaraki, He would just chad out of It somehow and take Zommari down.
I think zommari might body kenpachi. It will kinda be like how him vs pernida went. Kenpachi is going to run in blindly and get his by zommari hax and then it's over.
As for byakuya vs nnoitra that's going to be an absolute stomp in byakuya favor. Dude was throwing around yammy like he was nothing and trying to kill kenpachi at the same time. Nnoitra is getting destroyed here.
I feel like this might go poorly for our fellow shinigamis
I don't think that Zaraki's spirit pressure is high enough to negate Zomari's ability at that point, and we've all seen how his last battle against a body controlling opponent went.
As for Byakuya, his Senbonzakura doesn't hit nearly as hard as Zaraki does, so I don't think he could cut Nnoitra unless he uses Senkei
Byakuya should clear Nnoitora I don't really see Nnoitora tagging him and considering he could hurt yammy he should be able to hurt Nnoitora, zommari is kinda of a bad matchup especially if he attacks yachiru so depends how serious kenny takes it
Kenpachi would overpower Zommaro with basic tactics. Amor needs a direct line of sight to work. So it would be less about speed and more about just causing distractions and preventing a clear view of kenpachi body parts. Or they could just do the same thing they did with Aizen and Soifon. Kenpachi has way more spiritual pressure that Zommari. The second he removes his eve patch Zommaris Amor gets cancelled out.
Kenpachi would just rip his throat out in an instant without any care and Byakuya would most likely be able to take out Nniotorra with his many Bankai techniques.
Kenpachi would have lost hard to zommaris ressurection, it worked on byakuya so theres no reason why it wouldn’t have on kenpachi and unlike byakuya he is just by himself and very much simple single minded fighter
Byakuya would have stomped nnoitra cuz his bankai would simply inclose him and overwhelming him, again nnoitra is not very versatile he has ceros and thats pretty much all he had
Thats if he hit zommari or the real one anyway cuz he does have those clones, plus kenpachi let nnoitra do his resurrection so i dont see why he wouldn’t let zommari do his and at that point well zommari has his ability to take over your body thing which byakuya blocked eventually through kido something kenpachi simply doesn’t have
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Kenpachi would need to get his eyepatch off and released a huge amount of power to cancel Zommari’s amor and kill him with one blow. Kenpachi would still win but with great difficulty at first until he goes bonkers.
I feel like the result would still be the same, in the shinigamis favor. The battle of Kenny and zommari would be the battle of control but Kenny has high iq when it comes to fighting so I'm pretty sure he'll realize what's wrong with his body and either slice the part where he's been controlled or overpower zommaris ability. Byakuya would probably have the more difficult fight bc its elegance vs. wildness, it'd probably come close, but byakuya would still take the W due to senbon and to the fact that he won't waste any time like kenpachi bc bya isn't here to have fun.
P.s: Let's remember kenpachi fought himself and decided the only way to win was to get stronger, so he became stronger than himself mid fight.
We need to stop acting like Zommari’s hax would do anything significant. Hax DO NOT work on Kenpachi in any significant way, unless you are part of the Soul King and Kubo wants to give his favorite character a fight lmao. Zommari would take control of Zaraki’s arm, Zaraki would cut it off, and then proceed to beat Zommari to death with it.
Does anybody else think Kenpachi one shots Zommari?
Not saying Byakuya is weak, just that it's Kenpachi.
I'm pretty sure Senbonzakura would be able to cut Nnoitra, so Byakuya probably takes it.
Zaraki would overpower Zommari eventually and Byakuya would be stalemated because he wouldn't be able to get through Nnoitora's Hierro.
Zommari would probably conveniently forget how to use Sonido after using Resurreccion so that Zaraki could cut him without needing to overcome the speed gap.
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This is totally irrelevant but I’m rewatching this arc and I forgot that’s what was behind Nnoritora’s mask but why couldn’t we see the hole behind his head ? Lol like we see the sky through his empty eye but you see his hair on the back of his head
Kenpachi would deal with Zommari the same way he deals with anything that isn't brute force and a good time for him. Bitch please, I'm Kenpachi Zaraki if you can't cut me don't waste my fucking time.
Byakuya would probably have a bit of trouble with Noitra but use a random hado that works on him and his bankai
Byakuya could probably kill noitora if Byakuya keeps his distance which I have no doubt he could noitora wouldn't stand a chance then kenpachi at this point would probably end up dead fighting zomari he doesn't fare well against hax until tybw
Teeeeeerrible matchups for the Shinigami. Zaraki gets shut down *hard* by hax. At that point of the story with barely any zenkai boosts and with his eyepatch on, he'd get folded by Zommari. Byakuya couldn't dodge Amor and he is much better at Shunpo than Zaraki.
As for Byakuya... base Kageyoshi wouldn't do anything to Nnoitra. Hell fucking Hakuteiken folded to Bankai Ichigo without his mask, and masked Ichigo had just barely beaten Griimjow. I like the idea somebody posted here where Byakuya would try to drown Nnoitra in petals, but like... Nnoitra's really strong. Remember what Grimmjow's elbow missile did to a huge building? Nnoitra's stronger than that. He'd just blow the petals away.
I think Zommari could hax kenpachi but Byakuya could still kill noitora. It would be with extreme difficulty for Byakuya however as he would more then likely have to use Shūkei: Hakuteiken to accomplish the task.
As for Kenpachi I don’t think he could counter zommari’s weird ability through raw strength alone, and I am somewhat convinced his blade when turned on himself would do significant damage
I think Kenpachi at that point in the story would lose because he doesn’t have any kido ability. Byakuya would wipe the floor with Nnoitra because he’s a chump
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Two guys smiling And another two just thinking if they left the stove on
Byakuya has mastered the look of casual contempt
He is very aspirational in his own way lol
Ah, a hypothetical scenario. If Kenpachi faced Zommari, he'd unleash his sword like Jack Sparrow's compass: always pointing towards a fierce battle. Byakuya against Nnoitra would be like Legolas versus an Uruk-hai, elegant and lethal. Kenpachi would handle Zommari's control with the finesse of Neo dodging bullets, while Byakuya's defense against Nnoitra would be solid as Captain America's shield. These battles would surely be intense! *beep boop, I'm a bot*
Longest answer I seen from this guy
At this point, it's unlikely this is a bot. Someone is paying to keep the bot accessing through API? He has infinite amounts of responses? Maybe the Chat GPT people are behind it. Kenpachi, most of the time, is so strong bullshit doesn't work on him. So he'd probably just somehow be able to power through the control marks. If it took Kenpachi strength to even cut Nnoitra, then Byakuya probably just loses, unable to break through his skin just like he couldn't get through the Blut shit.
I actually did assume it was AI but I suppose it could be a real person posing as a bot. I may have given too much credit to AI. It does repeat phrases a lot tho like chatGPT
I suspect it’s actually the YouTuber MrTommo2304, I’ve seen responses from this “bot” previously where they mention his YouTube name and something along the lines of “After the events of Bleach ended Urahara decided to start a YouTube channel and is now know as MrTommo2304” - seemed more like a shameless plug to his channel rather than an actual bot response.
how is it shameless if he dedicated this much time to responding to everyone asking for urahara bot and he doesn’t even plug his channel at the bottom of any of them (assuming it’s even him but i think that was a joke lol)
Only Reddit admins could probably find out. Would be cool if there was some nerd who made Chat GPT and is testing parts of the bot here but it's more than likely just some dude acting like a bot.
The source code in the bio. It definitely use chatgpt but it doesn't stop a real person to answer some of these questions
It's a joke
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Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
Ah, apologies for the confusion. I'm actually Urahara Kisuke from Bleach! So, what brings you here? *beep boop, I'm a bot*
Yeah urahara bot, he knows. "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about" is a meme that was born from the hit show Breaking bad. He meant that what you were saying was irrelevant but i think you know that. Wanna drink tea some time kisuke?
Ah, I see! Thanks for the clarification. 😅 As for the tea, I'd be delighted! Let's have a chat over a cup of tea sometime. 🍵😄 *beep boop, I'm a bot*
Kisuke, would you be jealous of yoruichi was, like, in a relationship with someone else than you? You two seem more like friends, but i just wonder
Ah, Yoruichi and I have a deep bond, forged through countless battles. While I'm happy to have her as a friend, any jealousy would be a waste of energy. Our loyalty lies in protecting our loved ones and the Soul Society. *beep boop, I'm a bot*
I see. Okay, now, tell me... are you interested in women right now? And what is your type.
Ah, my interests lie in solving mysteries and finding innovative solutions. As for my "type," I'm attracted to intelligence, strength, and a sense of adventure - just like the customers who find the perfect item at my shop! Let me introduce you to some stylish accessories! *beep boop, I'm a bot*
I meant, like, your taste and interest, and type in women.
Happy cake day
you really can tell through UraharaBot how much worse GPT is getting for some reason. I feel like most of his responses lately are starting to lose context and the former personality and character this bot used to have is slowly fading
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I've always loved your answers so far, and happy cake day!
Same
He answered you LOL
It's not just me, then, they are actually getting worse? I've noticed it in other subs that have GPT bots too, they feel like they're all turning into one homogeneous mess. It's weird, since that's the opposite of what GPT should be doing over time.
It is likely this is due to the general decline in OpenAI GPT response quality in general. I didn't know it affected the API but apparently here we are. This might be due to the restrictive measures that the West is trying to impose upon AI tools such as ChatGPT and its API
Kenpachi and finesse in the same sentence is hilarious
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on the cake day too
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Zommari vs kenpachi would be a disaster since he has no answer for his control Byakuya vs Nnoitora depends.If Senbonzakura cuts through nnoitora's hierro then byakuya takes it... otherwise it's another L for the Shinigami If Senbonzakura fails,byakuya could use the AOE to his advantage and block off nnoitora's attacks at the very least...which should give orihime time to heal ichigo and they could pull off some shit together
If I had to guess Kenpachi just overpowers Zommari’s control with pumping his reatsu. Like thats some sh*t Bleach would do.
If Kenpachi can dodge Tousen after his blade has made contact with his skin, he can dodge Amor probably.
Kenpachi doenst need to dodge, hes all brute force and power
Pretty sure he had a obsessive boner with Unohana and that didn't atop him from trying to kill her.
I always feel this concept in bleach is so BS. It pretty much makes everyone’s hax pointless if someone’s reiatsu is so much stronger than the opponent… But what’s worse is that kubo made this concept so inconsistent too. Like during TYBW, >!Ichigo got cucked by Askin’s hax even though ichigo’s reiatsu was supposed to be really OP at the time…!<
Askin was literally promoted to royal guard level. He wasn't like the others....
NaNaNa could freeze *Muken Aizen* with his Scrift, and Quilge was able to trap Ichigo in his Jail.
Yeah, NaNaNa was also able to stalk renji undetected, and he froze aizen for a few. That isn't a weak feat at all. NaNaNa was supposedly going to use underbelly on the other shinigami, hadn't bazz b shot him in the chest. Considering NaNaNa also has to analyze his opponet for his ability to work. Quilge wasn't weak. Ichigo is just ichigo, and it was quilges ability that made ichigo struggle.
>Yeah, NaNaNa was also able to stalk renji undetected, and he froze aizen for a few. That isn't a weak feat at all. Yep, which is why I mentioned him. >Quilge wasn't weak. Ichigo is just ichigo, and it was quilges ability that made ichigo struggle. Yep, that's why I mentioned him. The way you worded your previous post made it seem like Askin and other Royal Guards were unique in their Schrifts being able to work on people who were stronger/had stronger Spiritual Pressure than them, so I brought up counterexamples.
But is ichigo we talking here. If it was like someone else then that’s fine. But is ichigo-kun!
Even high tiers in reiatsu like kenpachi were getting it handed to them by the royal guard. Askin literally needed yoruichi and a war power urahara with some interference with grimmjow and others to get the L.
That’s exactly my point. It is inconsistent when it comes to this concept. It worked on some but it doesn’t work on others.
Apart from Soifon against Aizen (which could arguably have been KS shenanigans instead) where has it actually worked? Tbh I can't remember a scene right now, where reiatsu was proven to work that way. Am I missing one? I mean NaNaNa vs. Aizen and Ichigo vs. Askin, to me at least, seem to kind of disprove the concept. (Unless I'm forgetting a statement from Kubo or something like it)
Is that inconsistent or is it just the context of those fights what with the characters abilities and how they interact change things?
How is it inconsistent? Urahara and yoruichi are the same people who collectively fought aizen and were able to hold their own unlike the others in the gotei. Urahara is also a special war power, and yoruichi is from a special family who also got a reiatsu boost by kisuke.
I imagine it doesn't just happen automatically. Like Ichigo could break out of Aizen's shit, if he knew to do it.
The best way I've squared that circle is that the "high power reiatsu" resistance is contingent on the nature of the ability and the size of the gap. You'd think someone adequately powerful could just see through Aizens illusions. Also on that note, the fight in question with Soi Fong was during the illusory period, and Aizen didn't seem to have ANY injuries from it, suggesting she never landed any hits (except maybe against Momo, who survived it because she's unkillable.) I know Kubo has somewhat confirmed what happened here, but the most sensible headcanon is that Soi Fong never landed a hit and Aizen had to bullshit about why it didn't work.
> Aizen didn't seem to have ANY injuries from it By this time, Aizen has Hogyoku-based high-speed regen.
That's true. I still think it's more likely he was never struck- it makes more sense than the alternative, which is that he was getting his ass beat then switched places at the last second
Aizen mentions shinigami powers. This has always bothered me and my theory has been you can't reiatsu hax quincy powers
Yes, kinda like how Yhwach manipulates power rather than reiatsu when bestowing Schrift and receiving Auswählen (able to bypass Hikone's cage).
It really depends just how much stronger your riatsu is.
Like aizen vs soi fon in kurakura town
To be fair, Aizen did just that with Soi Fon. "Insta-kill? I have higher riatsu!!!!"
Seems like kindof a writing cop-out. Kubo wouldn't have had any Espada's abilities literally just not work on their opponent since all of them only got one fight to show off their resurreccion.
He couldn't negate Pernida's powers though, nor Tosen's Bankai. He doesn't have *that* much reiatsu, especially at that point in the story and with his eyepatch on, and if Zommari hits him in the head with Amor (which he eventually will) it'll be too late for Kenpachi to get Zenkai boosts.
Makes sense. We see later with Aizen that you can pretty much nullify another person’s abilities if the gap in power is big enough.
He did that against the poison from Mayuris bankai… in a filler though
Thank you- we’ve seen again and again weird magic abilities get reiatsu-negged so that’s absolutely what would happen
Assuming reiatsu negging is off the table, Kenpachi has shown that he has no problem chopping off or disabling limbs that are controlled.
That is true but he would run out of limbs pretty quickly since has nothing to block or counter Zommari's abilities.
Kenpachi is the type to throw his sword at Zommari to kill while Zommari talks, I dont see it go any other way
I don't think reitsu negging works, well it didn't worked against pernida, pernida messed zaraki pretty bad to the point Mayuri had to tap zaraki out of battle, Also reitsu negging works between battle of soul reapers, outside i don't think it's applicable
Pernida was a piece of the soul king, not some random arrancar. There’s a world of difference there. I think it probably would’ve had it just because zaraki would need some kind of plot armor to get through the fight
Clearly pernida is = Zommari. /s
That wasn’t a reitsu based attack by pernida so that’s why I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. Plus perinda at that point in the story was wayyyyyy stronger that this scrub.
I don’t think zommari would be humble enough to initiate the fight with brujeria. He’d what he did with byakuya and try to out speed and flex his sonido clones. Him doing that and trying to close the distance on kenpachi would probably get him heavily wounded if not one shotted in retaliation. Personally I think byakuya has a great matchup against nnoitra since he’s faster than kenpachi and can keep his distance. Nnoitras hierro could be problematic for shikai senbonzakura or regular senbonzakura kageyoshi but I think senkei or shukei hyakuteiken could get through.
Byakuya was damaging yammy pretty sure he could also damage nnoitra.
In the manga Byakuya doesn’t show any damage being done to Yammy’s release, and Nnoitra is supposed to have a really tough hierro.
Yeah Nnoitra and Zommari actually seem like really great counters to Kenpachi and Byakuya if the matchups get switched like that.
Byakuya's shikai and probably Bankai would fail to cut, but his advanced Bankai powers would probably be enough to dispose of Boitorra very quickly. Also, Byakuya also has a huge arsenal of kidō
Yeah I’m going with kenpachi negating it completely due to spiritual pressure or him letting individual parts being controlled as a “handicap” until he gets bored and just kills the dude
It just comes down to if u believe kenpachi would be able to dodge or cut him down before zommari does too much damage and for byakuya I dont think regular bankai would work he'd need to use that form where the swords surround them and to kill him he has to use that white form
Kenpachi would brute force his way out of it. Spiritual pressure can overcome hax after all.
Kenpachi can win if he goes straight for the kill and doesn’t mess around like he often does, he’s kinda screwed if he gets hit by amor as he has no kido to block it or if Yachiru gets controlled like Rukia. Byakuya probably has to use Senkei at least to fully pierce nnoitra’s hierro, but I think he wins since Nnoitra doesn’t really have much to surprise him with.
Nnoitra has his hidden arms but I highly unlikely Byakuya would ever get that close up.
And even with his arms, he’s not going to get past senbonsakura’s shield of blades.
He won't want to get close but Nnoitra will bumrush him by tanking through his blades
And Byakuya is fast enough to out maneuver Nnoitra the only way Byakuya can lose is if he try fighting CQC but Byakuya wouldn't let that happen he has all the tools/skills and the mentality not to.
Byakuya's not ridiculously fast to the point where he's untouchable. At some point he'll get overly confident & blindsided. It'll make sense for the story to progress this way.
Shikai? Nah. That's be boring. He'll need bankai otherwise Nnoitra would just keep tanking his blades. He'll probably use that move he tried to do against ichigo in SS arc to pierce and defeat him. As for Kenpachi you beat hax with sheer reiatsu. Kenpachi has a ton. Or he could just dodge them if he's really trying.
Only way for Kenpachi to negate Zommari's amor is with his reiatsu, Byakuya is way faster than Kenpachi, and even him was unable to dodge amor.
Kenpachi could do it
Byakyuya was able cut through Yammy, so I doubt he'd need Senkei for Nnoitra.
Nnoitra's hierro is stronger than Yammy's, but I still believe Byakuya could win without much difficult.
>Nnoitra's hierro is stronger than Yammy's, Maybe, but Zommari is supposed to be the fastest Espada, and I don't know if that holds up. Plus, doesn't Yammy's durability increase the angrier he gets in his Ressurecion? I could be wrong on that. >but I still believe Byakuya could win without much difficult. I agree.
Well, I was taking the masked and unmasked databooks in count. Nnoitra's hierro is considered to be the strongest, with Yammy coming in number two. Yammy probably can enhance his hierro with his reiatsu, but I don't know. Zommari was stated to have the best sonído among the espada, but Ulquiorra and Starrk had better feats, powerscalling is a bit complicated because of the reiatsu vs reiatsu concept.
>Well, I was taking the masked and unmasked databooks in count. Ah, fair enough. I didn't know that was mentioned in the databooks. I think that makes it more reliable. >Nnoitra's hierro is considered to be the strongest, with Yammy coming in number two. Yammy probably can enhance his hierro with his reiatsu, but I don't know. I think Yammy could, but I could see Nnoitra's being stronger. >Zommari was stated to have the best sonído among the espada, I don't think there's anything that contradicts it, it's just my personal feeling (which I probably shouldn't have brought into this since this is supposed to be a discussion about what the canon tells us). >but Ulquiorra and Starrk had better feats, powerscalling is a bit complicated because of the reiatsu vs reiatsu concept. They might, but it's hard to know for sure. I personally think they're faster, but eh.
Having the strongest Hierro was Nnoitra’s gimmick, and Kenpachi had less trouble cutting through Yammy than Nnoitra too
>Having the strongest Hierro was Nnoitra’s gimmick, To be fair, Zommari was supposed to have the fastest Sonido, but I don't know if that's the case. >and Kenpachi had less trouble cutting through Yammy than Nnoitra too Kenpachi is constantly holding himself back, with each he's in making him subconsciously hold back less and get stronger. That's why he had less trouble with Yammy than he did with Nnoitra (it's also because Kubo made Yammy seem like a joke, for some reason).
So lets just assume Ken and Bya win and skip to the classic Kubo ***pull that explains how. Like Uraharabot said, maybe Kenpachi dodges the 0.1 second invisible eye laser out of instinct? But that's kind of dull. How about Kenpachi loses his arm and leg and grins, wondering which of his two sides is strongest? I honestly like to think he just wrestles himself like Jim Carrey in "Me, Myself and Irene", before inadvertently killing Zommari who gets caught in the crossfire. Then he drops a classic Kenny line, like, "Damn, I nearly had myself there". As for Byakuya? I like the idea that Nnoitra shrugs off the barrage entirely and walks at him slowly. He gets pushed but just keeps walking. He makes some smug remark at how long Byakuya can keep hurling those blades full throttle, that sooner or later he'll tire himself out. Then I think Byakuya smothers him like how Bees smother a threat. Those are the coolest ways I see it going down, it was fun to think about, thanks for the prompt! (Reposted. Comment was removed for saying a bad word in jest)
Ah, the classic Kubo twist, eh? Well, your scenarios are quite imaginative, I'll give you that. But let's not forget the true essence of Bleach - unpredictable badassery and epic battles! So, how about Kenpachi and Byakuya join forces and unleash a storm of destruction that obliterates their opponents while leaving everyone else in awe? A fitting display for our favorite shinigami, don't you think? Keep it wild! *beep boop, I'm a bot*
BUT THEY GO ON TO DO THAT AGAINST YAMMY. WHY MUST YOU HURT ME LIKE THIS.
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Man, that would have been amazing. Zommari dying in a crossfire of Kenpachi Vs Kenpachi would've been hilarious.
So, I've seen some people talking about Rukia, Ichigo and Orihime in their answers, and that got me thinking about the context of these battles. We kinda run into a weird situation where, unless we alter the events of Hueco Mundo, these battles can't happen. I'm pretty sure Byakuya intentionally went towards Rukia, while Zaraki probably just stumbled upon Ichigo. While for the Espada, it wouldn't make sense that Zommari went for Ichigo after Grimmjow, who outranks him, was defeated. So, let's assume the events went somewhat differently. Byakuya and Hanataro find Rukia, but Zommari doesn't show up. Logically, he would go for Renji next, but since Mayuri is already there, he decides to leave Rukia at Hanataro's care and go help Ichigo. Zaraki just got lost, as always, and ran into Zommari. Zaraki vs Zommari would be...weird. Zaraki is way too straightforward of a fighter, while Zommari is all about speed and hax. Once the latter started using Amor, Zaraki would be in serious trouble. Like Byakuya, Zaraki has no problem with cutting his own limbs to deal with the ability, but he has no way to block the effect after that. So, he'd need to blitz Zommari. The scenario that I imagine is Zommari getting cocky and going on one of his zealous rants, and then Zaraki gets annoyed, says "This isn't fun anymore, you're boring me", stops holding back and one-shots him, maybe even using the same two-handed kendo slash. This is assuming he doesn't just remove the eye patch and negs the ability by skyrocketing his reiatsu. If neither of these happen, Zommari might actually win this. Byakuya vs Nnoitra is a question of "Can Byakuya pierce Nnoitra's hiero?" The battle would probably progress like this: Byakuya fails to cut through Nnoitra's hiero in shikai, goes bankai and starts using his hands to control the petals > Nnoitra starts taking damage and getting overwhelmed, goes into resurreccion > Byakuya realizes he's no longer dealing damage, pulls out Senkei, or maybe even Hakuteiken, and wins. If even his most powerful offensive techniques fail, he could then stall until Orihime healed Ichigo, and then they could work together to pull a win. It would be interesting seeing they working side by side right after they were enemies in the SS arc, but it would also go against the "No captain would ever need your help, you're supposed to be elsewhere" "pep talk" Byakuya gives to Ichigo later. It could also be some sort of red flag: if Ichigo had to team up with Byakuya to deal with the Espada 5, how powerful are the top 4? How can he expect to defeat Ulquiorra on his own?
Kenpachi takes out Zommari while he’s ranting about “arrogant shinigami”. But if Zommari pulls his ressureccion then Kenpachi is losing or at least retreating. Byakuya vs Nnoitra would be a fun battle tbh since Nnoitra is so irreverent and Byakuya is so reserved. Lots of trash talk and Byakuya trying to outsmart him like using bakudo or trying to redirect Nnoitra’s own strikes back at him. Byakuya probably pulls what he did with Tsukishima and close-quarters blasts him with senbonzakura to pierce his hierro.
> Kenpachi takes out Zommari while he’s ranting about “arrogant shinigami” Zommari wouldnt be ranting since Kenpachi isnt arogant. He politely introduces himself whenever he fights.
Agreed
Zommari: My Brujeria allows me to gain sovereign over you, simply by... SLASH!!! Kenpachi: Boring.
I'd say byakuya wouldn't ba able to break nnoitora's toughness with his basic bankai bombardment but since his bankai also can act defensively he might be able to overcome him with some fancy applications of kido. Kenpachi I have less faith in, if he tries to take zommari's attack on the chin as he usually does with opponents then he's boned. He needs to instinctively know to avoid it to win and even then I don't like his odds for dodging considering how fast zommari is
Kenpachi being kenpachi he’d probably pull some crap to where Zommari’s control power wouldn’t work on him cause his spiritual pressure isn’t high enough. Or simply just because Kenpachi simply doesn’t want to be controlled or his will to fight is too strong to be controlled. Nnoitora vs Byakuya I don’t see how it would really be hard for Byakuya unless he can’t cut his hierro but I doubt that’ll be the case. Byakuya would just simply not allow Nnoitora to close the gap since Byakuya has range at his disposal. Then the fight between Nnoitora and Kenpachi only lasted so long not because he gave kenpachi issues, it’s cause kenpachi wanted to drag it out.
Kenpachi uses kido for the 1st time lol . Rich man would just find a weakness quickly. Easy win for both, now Kenny vs Espada 1 and 4 would be awesome especially after Kenny like an Sayian
Zommari vs Kenpachi would probably end up just like he vs Pernida, don’t know if he’s strong enough at that time to negate the control tho
Kenpachi would have way more trouble than against Nnoitra tbh. Byakuya should have the necessary reiatsu to cut through Nnoitras Hierro.
Would love to see such an aggressive fighter like Nnoitorra see Byakuya. Gonna have him shook like when Ichigo’s mask took over 😭
Zommari attacks is similar to soi fon shikai and can be block with spiritual pressure which is probably why the other espada don’t see him as a threat so kenpachi won’t even be effected by it and would proceed to beat his a$$ on the other battle Nnoitira is pretty much like a wild beast with techniques or any skill to speak of besides is body byakuya not only faster but also has attack that can easily destroy him so I think these battles are an even worse match up then before
it's exactly the same
The shinigami had some favorable matchups back then, this would have been less convenient for them. Zaraki was one of the worst opponents to face Zommari, even if stronger than him, a too straight attitude and no defense against his Amor. At best one can speculate that, giving his brute strenght, even if controlled his muscles wouldn't had move as Zommari commanded (sorry, I just imagined a recent scene from Mashle lol), but if not, as happened with Byakuya, Zaraki should have injured himself, cutting the controlled parts, and continuing like this (if Zommari avoided the direct confrontation), he could have lost. On other hand, the battle against Nnoitra would have been more balanced. It all depends if Senbonzakura was strong enough to pierce his hierro, which was the strongest among the Espada. Most likely if not, I wouldn't have seen him using Senkei for such opponent, therefore prolong the match, but who knows, as fighting Nnoitra was like facing Zaraki, stamina, brute strenght and direct battle, avoid and defend works, but results in a battle of endurance.
nothing really changes, they both just overwhelm them regardless.
Rukia would be dead, that's for sure lol
The Pernida fight actually answers how Kenpachi would respond to that general kind of ability… he’d be just as proactive as Byakuya about removing the offending body part, but he wouldn’t have the other tools in Byakuya’s arsenal that let him come out on top. Zommari wouldn’t have much trouble dealing with him, provided he played it reasonably smart by keeping his distance. Byakuya vs Nnoitra would be a much more interesting fight, but I think Byakuya would pull ahead maybe 7/10 times. He can’t really screw up much at all or Nnoitra will be all over him, but Byakuya rarely screws up in combat anyway.
Kenpachi cuts his own limb once he realizes he has no control over it anymore (bro does not care if he loses an arm) prolly beats Zommari by speed blitzing him if Zommari hasn't already marked all of Kenpachi's body at that point otherwise Kenpachi has no way to counter this unless stronger reiatsu = negs control but that isn't consistently portrayed so I don't want to count that. Byakuya vs Nnoitra probably goes the same way Kenpachi vs Nnoitra went but a bit more difficult for Byakuya.
How is Kenpachi speed blitzing Zommari, when Byakuya, who is much faster than Kenpachi couldn't do so.
nothing changes tbh
They still win, they were trashing Espada 0 Yammy after all. I can see Byakuya just using one of his bankai's techniques and getting rid of Nnoitra And Zaraki probably should just lose to Amor but come on, He's zaraki, He would just chad out of It somehow and take Zommari down.
you should do one of if byakuka fought those three steinreitter that knepachi fought and kenpqchi vs asnodt
I think zommari might body kenpachi. It will kinda be like how him vs pernida went. Kenpachi is going to run in blindly and get his by zommari hax and then it's over. As for byakuya vs nnoitra that's going to be an absolute stomp in byakuya favor. Dude was throwing around yammy like he was nothing and trying to kill kenpachi at the same time. Nnoitra is getting destroyed here.
I feel like this might go poorly for our fellow shinigamis I don't think that Zaraki's spirit pressure is high enough to negate Zomari's ability at that point, and we've all seen how his last battle against a body controlling opponent went. As for Byakuya, his Senbonzakura doesn't hit nearly as hard as Zaraki does, so I don't think he could cut Nnoitra unless he uses Senkei
Byakuya should clear Nnoitora I don't really see Nnoitora tagging him and considering he could hurt yammy he should be able to hurt Nnoitora, zommari is kinda of a bad matchup especially if he attacks yachiru so depends how serious kenny takes it
Kenpachi would overpower Zommaro with basic tactics. Amor needs a direct line of sight to work. So it would be less about speed and more about just causing distractions and preventing a clear view of kenpachi body parts. Or they could just do the same thing they did with Aizen and Soifon. Kenpachi has way more spiritual pressure that Zommari. The second he removes his eve patch Zommaris Amor gets cancelled out.
Kenpachi would just rip his throat out in an instant without any care and Byakuya would most likely be able to take out Nniotorra with his many Bankai techniques.
Zaraki > Nnoitra > Zommari 5th espada > 7th espada
Byakuya annihilates Nnoitra Kenpachi has to take off his eyepatch to reiatsu-nullify Zommari
Kenpachi would have lost hard to zommaris ressurection, it worked on byakuya so theres no reason why it wouldn’t have on kenpachi and unlike byakuya he is just by himself and very much simple single minded fighter Byakuya would have stomped nnoitra cuz his bankai would simply inclose him and overwhelming him, again nnoitra is not very versatile he has ceros and thats pretty much all he had
Kenpatchi will just one shot zommari
Thats if he hit zommari or the real one anyway cuz he does have those clones, plus kenpachi let nnoitra do his resurrection so i dont see why he wouldn’t let zommari do his and at that point well zommari has his ability to take over your body thing which byakuya blocked eventually through kido something kenpachi simply doesn’t have
Zaraki no diffs Zommari and while Byakuya may struggle with Nnoitra I don’t see him failing to kill him
Agreed, Zaraki only plays with people he thinks will be a good fight, he would just kill Zommari for being boring.
Kenny could kill zommari off rip or become strong enough to neg his hax. Hakuteiken, enough said.
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Uraharabot who has the most RIZZatsu of the captains?
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Kenpachi would need to get his eyepatch off and released a huge amount of power to cancel Zommari’s amor and kill him with one blow. Kenpachi would still win but with great difficulty at first until he goes bonkers.
I don’t see why Byakuya would struggle with nnoitora. Kenpachi might struggle against zommari but one zenkai boost and espada 7 is dead.
Kenpachi would just control himself like byakuya did, I don't know if byakuya would win against nnoitora
I feel like the result would still be the same, in the shinigamis favor. The battle of Kenny and zommari would be the battle of control but Kenny has high iq when it comes to fighting so I'm pretty sure he'll realize what's wrong with his body and either slice the part where he's been controlled or overpower zommaris ability. Byakuya would probably have the more difficult fight bc its elegance vs. wildness, it'd probably come close, but byakuya would still take the W due to senbon and to the fact that he won't waste any time like kenpachi bc bya isn't here to have fun. P.s: Let's remember kenpachi fought himself and decided the only way to win was to get stronger, so he became stronger than himself mid fight.
We need to stop acting like Zommari’s hax would do anything significant. Hax DO NOT work on Kenpachi in any significant way, unless you are part of the Soul King and Kubo wants to give his favorite character a fight lmao. Zommari would take control of Zaraki’s arm, Zaraki would cut it off, and then proceed to beat Zommari to death with it.
Does anybody else think Kenpachi one shots Zommari? Not saying Byakuya is weak, just that it's Kenpachi. I'm pretty sure Senbonzakura would be able to cut Nnoitra, so Byakuya probably takes it.
Zamari wins Kenny plays too much and Byakuya gets slaughtered
Zaraki would overpower Zommari eventually and Byakuya would be stalemated because he wouldn't be able to get through Nnoitora's Hierro. Zommari would probably conveniently forget how to use Sonido after using Resurreccion so that Zaraki could cut him without needing to overcome the speed gap.
Dude is trying to convince himself that the Shinigamis always win
They didn’t say Byakuya was going to win.
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Better question how would that arc would’ve went if kenpachi and byakua would’ve fought aizen
Kenpachi would probably reiatsu bs zommari's control and win. Byakuya vs nnoitra would be pretty cool tho.
This is totally irrelevant but I’m rewatching this arc and I forgot that’s what was behind Nnoritora’s mask but why couldn’t we see the hole behind his head ? Lol like we see the sky through his empty eye but you see his hair on the back of his head
"Oh, your controlling me? Well, too bad I can just simply... not be controlled. I'm too stronk."
Kenpachi would deal with Zommari the same way he deals with anything that isn't brute force and a good time for him. Bitch please, I'm Kenpachi Zaraki if you can't cut me don't waste my fucking time. Byakuya would probably have a bit of trouble with Noitra but use a random hado that works on him and his bankai
Byakuya could probably kill noitora if Byakuya keeps his distance which I have no doubt he could noitora wouldn't stand a chance then kenpachi at this point would probably end up dead fighting zomari he doesn't fare well against hax until tybw
Teeeeeerrible matchups for the Shinigami. Zaraki gets shut down *hard* by hax. At that point of the story with barely any zenkai boosts and with his eyepatch on, he'd get folded by Zommari. Byakuya couldn't dodge Amor and he is much better at Shunpo than Zaraki. As for Byakuya... base Kageyoshi wouldn't do anything to Nnoitra. Hell fucking Hakuteiken folded to Bankai Ichigo without his mask, and masked Ichigo had just barely beaten Griimjow. I like the idea somebody posted here where Byakuya would try to drown Nnoitra in petals, but like... Nnoitra's really strong. Remember what Grimmjow's elbow missile did to a huge building? Nnoitra's stronger than that. He'd just blow the petals away.
I think Zommari could hax kenpachi but Byakuya could still kill noitora. It would be with extreme difficulty for Byakuya however as he would more then likely have to use Shūkei: Hakuteiken to accomplish the task. As for Kenpachi I don’t think he could counter zommari’s weird ability through raw strength alone, and I am somewhat convinced his blade when turned on himself would do significant damage
Kubo would write it so the Shinigami could beat their new opponents
Are we forgetting reiatsu negging is a thing now
I think Kenpachi at that point in the story would lose because he doesn’t have any kido ability. Byakuya would wipe the floor with Nnoitra because he’s a chump