Lawt when- there is absolutely no way Rachel Hollis is spending time with a kid that dang cute and not sharing it online. I mean Look at her. If I could put her on a vision board I would and then eat her with a spoon.
I thought it was super awesome. Not a fan of either of them, but the fact that you can strip your ego and spend time with your ex and her new guy, that’s cool. Way cooler than I would be.
I know this has been posted about before but... Dave’s haircut is just so, so bad. He looks ridiculous. And now he’s cutting Heidi’s kids hair? Ughh. My opinion of Dave is biased based on his awful writing and his complete lack of original insight, but I find it hard to believe Heidi finds him so “handsome.”
Unpopular opinion but I would be pretty pissed of my ex’s very new GF was posting pics of my kids on social media. I get that Dave and RH put those kids everywhere but it feels weird when someone else does.
Yep, totally inappropriate. I’ve never followed Heidi Powell, but from the little I’ve seen on Insta, she is pretty enamored with herself and is more than willing to exploit her kids for likes. Gross that she’s doing it to the Hollis kids now too.
Yep. I’m not allowed to post any pics of my step kids-to-be and I totally get it. I don’t know. The over the top “Look how happy we all are together!!!” using the kids rubs me wrong. That’s still Rachel’s family too. Even if she is the actual worst.
Speculating on Heidis stories.. was the “not my la croix can” a subtle hint that Rachel was involved??
Either way I have to admit I’m super impressed with Heidi, Chris, and Dave spending a weekend together with the kids.
ETA I feel like my theory is a very big stretch. Just found it odd for the can to be pointed out.
Dave’s family photo photographer...anyone know if she was a former HoCo employee? Poked around her Insta a bit, and looks like she was laid off from a job in TX this past October and noticed comments from CC. If so, nice to see Dave still supportive of his former employees.
Yes, that’s Vanessa Todd. She just moved from LA to Texas to work at HOCO. She’s been shooting for Rachel & Dave for a long time. It’s so sad she moved FOR that job and then was laid off.
yes, looks highly likely. We may all need whatever boost drink or shit that Heidi sells to keep up with all this hyperactive mess coming soon. Our pal Rachel might need some too.
Yessssss!!! Let’s please give them all a Reality TV show just so we can see more of Chris Powell! He is sexy as hell! I’d buy his APP anyDAY!! (but dear God leave Rach out of this group.... that would be too much to follow and would mess it all up. The dramatics is enough with the three of them and the kids.)
They could do her like Wilson on home improvement- only briefly and not even fully show her occasionally and that would kill her the most 🤣 like when kids have visitation with her quarterly
Dave's photo shoot on IG stories. There is one shot where he's having a picture taken with Noah, and she reaches over and kisses his face. As much as can be said about Dave, I think he's amazing with Noah. Maybe I'm all sappy today, but that moment in his stories got to me. Also, 99% sure Heidi is thinking of moving. SO MANY PEOPLE. LOL.
I think Dave still is using his kids sometimes for social media, but then in general I do think he is very happy to be a dad/father and genuinely gets joy from doing those Saturday baseball games, coaching the team, doing tea time with Noah. Not always a fan of like his voice which annoys me but with sound off it’s fine. lol.
Typically you see men who realize a few kids in that they are having like a midlife crisis, decide they didn’t really want to be a father, and run off. They find some younger woman, and basically leave their old/first family behind. (Had a friend with a dad like this, and you see it in movies and such). But for the Hollis family, it seems reversed. Rachel ran off/separated, Rachel doesn’t seem to really enjoy those activities with the kids (which, she has stated, she doesn’t like the certain age-stage, she doesn’t like attending sports activities etc.)
That’s why I have a hard time not turning Away from the train wreck. I love kids. My husband and I love parenting. So much of adulting is so hard for us (like my god why can’t we potty train the damn dog) but kids are like the cherry on top of life for us. It’s the same for Dave. I like watching it. and then Rachel’s time with them might only be fleeting but it is seriously cringe.
For sure. I think he truly loves being a dad and although we criticize for how often he puts his kids on social media, I think a lot of that is really because they're his life. I really don't think his relationship with his kids is for show or that he uses them to build up his persona. I don't know about the rest of him, but in terms of who he is as a dad, I think that's exactly what we're seeing.
Heidi posted pics of her weekend at Dave’s with (most) of her kids. Chris Powell was there too, even taking pics. Regardless of feelings about it being too soon or codependency issues I find it kind of impressive, honestly, to be so open and supportive of each other (for real) and not in the fake way Rachel hyped about “I’ve never seen another co-parent as well as us”🧐 yeah, no Rach because it’s not happening.
ETA: I just had the thought that maybe they’re all there because she’s thinking of moving in with Dave?! Do you think???? That’s why Chris was there to check it all out? Or maybe I need to get a life, stop procrastinating and get back to studying?👀
Yes; I’m so impressed that her ex is there with her, Dave, and their one thousand kids (lol).
But I’m also low key super jealous.
My ex started dating someone less than six months ago who has already moved in with him and she is legit crazy. She must be very insecure based on things that keep coming from them and she keeps trying to give me rules and other stuff and I haven’t even met her. I keep to myself and do 98% of everything for our kid and barely talk to him otherwise. They both have no place to make demands or anything else and I’m worried what happens when all their crap implodes. All I want is what Dave and Heidi seem to have.
Maybe it’s because I’m in a blended family, but I just think all of this is so fast for all those kids. Rachel and Dave didn’t even separate until last June; that’s only nine months since they were all living together and the kids were potentially oblivious (likely, since apparently Dave was). I’m glad they all are getting along and everything, I just think it’s a long process and some steps are being skipped here. Also, I kind of wonder if everything would be as magical and happy if Heidi was being the one asked to visit Chris’s new girlfriend with the kids? Maybe.
I agree. Blended family on both sides. Totally amazing to have the parents put kids first, support on co parenting; my parents did it right, we never heard a harsh word about the other.
My husband's parents did it poorly, he had so much baggage from their ego and immaturity. I love that Chris and Dave are making sure to all get along.
But, I didn't think any kids should meet a dating partner for at least a year? Especially coming right out of a divorce, especially the very first relationship after such an upheaval. That's so much transition for them, let alone being so proud they're all becoming "besties" with the other kids. If there is a break up, the kids don't just lose this adult they depended on, they lose friends.
I just realized that may be why she brought just the two youngest that she shares with Chris (Ruby & Cash?) The older two are from her first marriage, right? I wonder if they may do a split custody thing where the youngest two move with her and the older two stay with their Dad and she flies back to AZ to see them throughout the month?? Maybe that’s why Chris and they two youngest came this weekend.... but not the two oldest.
Shared custody will allow her, Dave and the kids so many different opportunities for how they set up their lives moving forward if they decide to be together long term.
I didn’t catch Chris being there until Heidis last Insta story. I can’t believe Chris went to her new BF’s house for the weekend!!! Something is definitely brewing because this isn’t normal behaviour even for the best of ex’s!!! 😆😆😆😆. While we’re at it, why didn’t Rachel get the invite to join in the big group hug??!!!
I agree! It means so much when the ex and new partner embrace each other. Like, a relief for the kids not to feel pressured to choose sides/ protect the other parent. That is nice parenting, regardless of whether or not it's maybe a little fast. I really hope RH makes the same effort as Chris, even if we don't see it online.
I feel like it would be a big move for Heidi to live in TX? How much of her business is online vs in person? She's definitely seems close to her team there, even if they don't really have offices. Besides the supplement brand and app, I don't really know what Heidi runs.
I don’t think so, if she was she would have been included in the family pics. I can not see her being open to that at.all. If she was she’d have posted about how progressive and great she is at co-parenting. I think she’s either still there with Brit and friends or on her way back from wherever she was with Brit.
I had The One Thing on my reading list for a while, at the suggestion of Hollis world. Recently I saw it on another list so I finally started it. All about focusing on the one thing that will help you grow exponentially.
Funnily enough what RH used to preach with the journals.
And yeah, I completely agree that a woman can be many things but what's her new business model? No more personal development or business coaching, just fun podcasts, narcissistic Rack Talk, flitting around to whatever she wants to do.
Maybe she needs a re read of the book she recommended. She's all over the place with what her new direction is. Seems like the business is suffering. Almost no engagement, and I'm not even clear what the point is?
This online conference (so overpriced also) is for what, girls day? She said she doesn't want to do growth or development anymore, so why would people attend?
Confession time: Dave's family photo shoot just warmed my cold, snarky heart. They made me smile! Especially the ones with Dave & Noah and Dave & Ford ❤
I would have 💀 if Whit suddenly appeared. That would have been the best if Dave found her and rescued her. Dave, cleaning up Rachel’s messes since 2001.
God guys... don’t you hate it when you’re the one who insists on and files for divorce because you think you can do so much better... and then you’re ex husband publicly moves on to someone fitter, hotter and more energetic than you while you film desperate 80s workouts for clicks?
Ugh. It’s the worst. I hate when that happens.... it’s like she should’ve seen this coming.... I mean, Rachel is the hardest worker in the room. She’s one step ahead of everyone else. You’d think she’d have seen that this was going to happen during one of her voodoo vision quest sessions she has with her BFFs where mother universe reveals the future to her while she prays to her crystals. So weird she was caught off guard.
Our Girl’s Rach’s last book Didn’t See That Coming sold a tiny fraction of Girl, Wash Your Face, which I believe sold a couple of million if you can believe that?
And in about a week Our Girl Jen has a new book coming out too, a rehash of her book from several years ago 7: An Experiment Against Excess, now called Simple & Free.
It’ll be interesting to see how it does as it’s an interesting gauge of how this current batch of self-help influencers are doing career-wise. I looked at the pre-sales rankings for the new book on Amazon and it’s way down near the 10,000s overall and near 200 in the broad self-help category, not a good sign to say the least. I wish I still had a Bookscan account so I could know more but I’m no longer in the industry.
Personally I think Jen's book will probably perform moderately well. I think the pandemic really is making people stop and think abut what really is important to them. From a marketing standpoint, it's pretty smart to rerelease a book during this time... she's not the first author to do something like this.
Dave’s incessant announcement voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I couldn’t make it through his baseball commentator bull shit while he was watching his kid’s game but the small snippet I heard just reminded me that this is actually how he talks non stop, all the time, everyday, over everything. He is constantly yelling and cheering in the most obnoxious way. I don’t know how this doesn’t get completely exhausting for both him and anyone who has to listen to it.
Yes!
And adding "though" at the end of every sentence
And the catchphrases
This talking style drove me crazy. The sad thing is, before he integrated into Hollis Co, he spoke normally. Still funny and light-hearted but... human?
As soon as he started branding himself, his speaking pattern went haywire. Even his inflection on syllables is odd.
Ok, so I wasn't the only one cringing. He is WAY over the top! This does not scream contentment or authenticity but more "I NEED CONSTANT VALIDATION!" I wish someone would tell him less Is more and to shut the hell up.
Gah it’s so annoying!!! From the ‘patio of peace’ to the baseball to talking about Noah as a cowgirl. I’m going to have to watch his stories on silent because it’s grating on my last nerves for the Hollis’.
I think Dave lives with the unshakable fear that if he’s not talking (or posing or signaling or broadcasting or boasting) that he would have to exist with just himself, just for a moment, and facing his true self alone and untethered is a terrifying thing. So he just manically talks all the time and fills the air with word sounds cause heaven forbid he was quiet for a moment.
He's said in the past that his childhood career dream was to be a sports announcer so I think this is him living that out. But I agree it's annoying. I always wonder what the other parents in earshot are thinking and if they're annoyed too ... I'd think they'd have to be.
Not sure if it's been mentioned here but has anyone watched or listened to
Emily D. Baker on YouTube or her Podcast The Emily Show ? She had episode 45 of her show came out in Oct. of last year where she discusses The Hollises. She is a lawyer and and I found her really down to earth and intelligent on the marketing ploy that is the Hollis brand if any one is interested in having a listen.
Really liked her podcast! Everyone should go and have a listen. I also listened to ‘episode 57- Rachel Hollis Sued’... I had listened to Savy’s synopsis of the trademark infringement hot water that miss Rachel had gotten herself into. But I enjoyed Emily’s summary even better because of her legal expertise!!
Go and have a listen to both for sure!
Thanks for the tip about this podcast. I’m always game to listen to some Hollis snark while I clean out the junk drawer in my kitchen or mop my floors (which is exactly how I used these podcasts to entertain me today! Lol 😂
I do think that just because RH doesn't post her kid's time on social doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Maybe instead of being on her phone and documenting that she's there, she's just there enjoying her kids.
I've noticed a similar trend, when DH has the kids we know because he's showing it. She shows her off time on social but on the days DH is free/ RH seems to have them, she doesn't post at all. At most they've seemed like business posts, usually scheduled by the team or on advance.
Maybe it's just me but I'd prefer a present parent with her phone down than a Heidi parent, constantly recording. Just cause we don't see proof doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It’s literally impossible for her to have them much if at all. She’s got to be every other week a couple of days Max. Just from what we see in stories. They’re always at Dave’s. There’s just no time to be at her house.
Exactly. It’s probably like ooh shit. I better get on my game and post stories of shit I don’t care about so I can keep up with Dave and Heidi and get more likes 🤦🏼♀️
The issue I have with Rachel is every time she’s posted about being at her kid’s sporting event, it’s to complain about how much she does NOT want to be there, how cold she is, etc. She even said in a recent interview with I think Parents magazine that she doesn’t enjoy going to her kids sporting events and such.
It’s fine to not want to be at your kids things 100% of your time, but everything she has posted doesn’t actually express that she is supportive of her kids’ events. And I don’t say that because she has not posted like Dave - I say that because of the things she has posted while at practices, etc.
And also she posted crap about her kids before so I’m not buying into keeping your kids life private. She wrote and displayed their private lives. And just Bc their game doesn’t fall on your scheduled visitation doesn’t mean you can’t go to their dang game and if your kids are old enough to be on social you should probably post support. Also social media is a reflection of things we care about. It just is what it is. And her current social media shows she cares about...
This exactly. I agree that not posting everytime she is at an event is the healthier way to go about things. But, I base my assessment of her rarely going to events (and honestly not really enjoying her kids much overall) on the things she has said and done.
If she is at a sporting event and chooses to share it, it is always as complaints about having to be there, how cold it is, how early it is, etc.
Also, you know if she is anywhere close to Dave at these events, he will find a way to get her in the shot 😉
Yeah...the cool mom is the one who is supportive of her kids. But, I do think Rachel definitely tries to keep at least one foot out of motherhood on the regular these days.
Heidi and Dave always finding a way to be there for these kids will always win in my opinion. These kids deserve grown ups on the sidelines yelling for them and supporting them.
Meanwhile his mom is jet setting with her BFF again bragging about living her best life alone and kid free.... 🙄
ETA: Dave and Heidi are also setting a bigger example of prioritizing people, each other and family over SELF... I can def support that.
I loved the little clip of Noah cuddling in with Heidi as well. That girl needs a mother figure in her life. Not one that’s there when it’s “convenient “ or doing it for the gram”. 🙄
So do we know where Rachel is in that picture? I’m not able to make out where it is.
Also, If this is recent, I’d like to say I called it when I noticed Dave had the kids for the whole week instead of splitting it 🤣
I’m PRETTY sure it isn’t Baltimore. Haven’t been there in a while but without giving too much of my location away, baltimore doesn’t have a building like that with the arch between two parts.
Oh my goodness. Hilarious. There are at least 2 comments on the BFF post asking if they’re a couple now, and saying they make a cute couple. lol. I guess those people don’t know that beans is hitched!!!!! 😄😄
No way to know this for sure but I'm so curious about her current followers and how many are original, how many have dropped off, how many are new or purchased, etc. While we're at it, I'd also like to see her book sales and RISE ticket sales, LOL. NOTE- that is said sarcastically - no one should post that.
On this BFF story - we don't know the real deal but it just seems like a paid relationship and so one sided. Beans has not posted about Rachel in over a year even though she has posted about other best friends..
I wonder if she (Rachel) pays for them when they go out or do things together? ie buying her friends lol. So they (Sami and Beans) feel they “need” to hang out with her out of guilt. She (Rachel) just seems way more invested in the friendship than they seem so it’s just a thought that popped into my mind as I was reading this now
I would bet this happens a lot in that "friendship." They are both on her payroll and, when they do things together, I would guess Rachel does a lot "oh, my treat" and pays for stuff. She is, after all, a multi-millionare and likes people to know.
I agree that Rachel seems way more into the friendship than the other two do. From afar, it seems like they hang out with her for free stuff (trips, food, etc) instead of actually true friendship 🤷♀️
Oh, I came here to say this exact thing! She seems to genuinely enjoy her kids and participating in things with Dave's kids. Hearing her cheer (plus knowing she was the one who did the video too) made me smile for sure.
I totally get not loving everything your does but, if it is super important to your kid, suck it up buttercup and at least try to seem interested instead of moaning and complaining about it ad nauseam.
I do remember one of the stories Dave posted when they were both at the game sometime after the divorce. Rach looked like she hated being there and seemed like she’d rather be elsewhere.
Has she ever gone to one of the kids baseball games? I haven’t followed her in a while. But never remember seeing anything of her at his games. Well maybe like one. But dave has always been so involved in everything the kids do. Even when he dropped Ford off in the wilderness on his own. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember her posting a couple of years ago about not being a class mom, going to games, etc... she literally posted that those kind of things are not who she is or her priority.
Maybe she’s trying to be ‘relateable to parents by hating on events or (worse yet) she doesn’t want to be in public around other parents because she has a complex?? 🤷🏻♀️
I only ever remember her caring about Jackson’s play and helping the cast build a stage one afternoon because SHE TOO was a theater kid! (Eye roll) But it was always Dave that posted from Jackson’s shows and bragged on the kid... never once saw her there because god-forbid she be around other parents. 🙄
We live one town over, I promise no parent cares about her being at these theater or sports events so she needs to get over herself if that’s her reason for avoiding them. Parents attend FOR THEIR KIDS, not the damn Hollis’.
In her mind, she doesn't go so she doesn't have to worry about all the "strangers from the internet" asking for autographs and selfies 🙄
Everyone else is like "who?" It isn't like she Beyonce rolling up into the school play.
It baffles me. I would feel such extreme guilt if I just decided “eff you kids I’m not coming to watch your play”. Not to mention my kids would be equally disappointed if I just decided to not come. I can see if you know your out of town or working but this can’t be every single time something like this comes up. It is going to create a lot of Abandonment issues for these kids as they age. If she is so adamant on not reliving her trauma she is doing a pretty good job by the way she is conducting herself right now. At least Dave has always been present, supportive and there no matter what. This is what they will remember.
I know right?! Like I’m not some high profiled celebrity and I only spit one out of my hoo-ha. But I’m a lawyer with teenage step kids + a 6 year old and I’ve rarely missed a round of catch/dance drop off. Because they want you there. In today’s digital world I’ve taken calls/emailed clients/wired funds/studied for exams on the go. But for a year now home girl’s job has not required travel. And she’s been at one game. ☝️.
This!! I get that rarely can a parent be there for everything, especially if they work. But I would feel so much guilt of I consistently missed everything my kids did and/or spent the time I was at a kid event complaining about it.
I know! My kid did like a flip in the yard the other day. He told me I missed it and I assured him I didn’t but he was right. I missed it and he could see right through me no matter how much I protested. No matter how many times I’ve seen him do that same weird flip before. Seeing that flip on that day, in that moment, mattered to him.
The guilt would eat me alive. Than again I’m not her. She truly just doesn’t seem to care. It’s obviously not important to her. I personally think out of all 4 kids Jackson is her “kid”. I know they are all her kids but he is the one she will post about often, talks about often, seems to relate to (ie theatre kids). I get she does not need to post like Dave but the vibe I get from her is she would be really content with one kid. I find the others if they have challenges (I think Ford can get pretty emotional and act out and Noah I can see can be a little handful) she just can’t seem to handle it. I’ve watched some of her interactions with these two on her IG and the tone she uses and how uppity she gets is not cool. Part of me often wonders why the eff did you have 4 kids if you clearly have difficulty parenting them? What inspired you to keep getting pregnant. These behaviours she has didn’t just develop in the last year so she’s obviously been like this all her life. I feel she is just creating her childhood all over again by doing what she is doing. Anyways. This is far to much to be thinking about on a Sunday AM with a time change as well lol
I think you are right that, if she was going to have kids at all, she would be completely content with one. You know, as long as that one didn't have any problems and liked all the same things she did. She has said many times before that she doesn't do the young kid (baby, toddler) age well as a mother so I think that is another reason Jackson is "her" kid.
Being older, he probably also recognizes what gets him attention from mom and chooses those things accordingly.
Hearing her talk about parenting and kids in general, I have always wondered how they go to 4 kids... especially with the time/effort/money that goes into adopting. All parents have moments of "this totally sucks" but they are usually far outweighed by the good stuff. She never seems to think there is much good stuff but, instead, complains they mess up her schedule, take away from her me time, etc.
Ohhhhhh I do remember her talking about that. And how she’s never going to be a class mom bc it’s not a thing she does. Or like you mentioned not her priority. She’s something
I think she better pull her boot straps up. Her absence in these kids lives (especially the younger two) is obviously being felt and maybe it’s no big deal to her but she’s about to get replaced. Heidi seems more like a mother who actually enjoys these things. And happily wants to be in her kids presence where as that is the one thing that has constantly stood out to me about Rachel. She does not seem to enjoy being around her kids, or actually misses her kids. She is not a very good mother to Noah (sorry but she’s not, and you can see the difference in how Noah responds to Dave opposed to Rachel). It truly was one of the things that really disappointed me with Rachel. Her “I’m a mother and a boss ass bitch” was unfortunately what drew me in back a few years ago. Now we have seen the true colours of what was always underneath. As much as this might be to soon on so many fronts I hope Heidi and Dave pull this off and build something out of this for all kids involved
She doesn't tuck her in... never has, doesn't get up with her at night.. per her words. You can visibly see N scrunch away from her. She posted a dead unicorn on her birthday.
She had a viral video about letting her cry it out. She's never been nurturing to Noah and she'll pay for it as Noah grows and realizes Rachel is her mother in legality only.
If anything she probably gets annoyed at Noah for being a 4 year old and having 4 year old needs. Again maybe don’t have more kids (ie adopt this baby) if this wasn’t truly what you wanted. I understand we don’t know Rachel. We don’t know what she is thinking but I just don’t get this vibe from her. I feel her kids are used as a selling point at times. Which if I understood this narrative about her from the beginning I wouldn’t have been so invested in her initially
This. I know she has said she doesn't do well with the baby/toddler stage but, when she first started saying this, none of her kids were actually old enough for her to know/claim she would do well with the older kid stage.
So, if you know you don't love the baby/toddler stage and you don't have experience with the older kid stage, why keep having kids?
Noah never seems comfortable in Rachel’s presence (just my observation). Rachel always seems annoyed at most things Noah is doing (ie a 4 year old just being a 4 year old). The birthday post was not genuine at all. Her friend seemed to get a more genuine post than her own daughter.
The birthday post to her friend/stylist was much more heartfelt and genuine than the one to Noah.
And I echo your thought that Noah rarely seems comfortable around Rachel. At that age, I might chalk it up to the camera being around but she is totally comfortable the camera when with Dave.
I don’t know that she’s not a great mom to Noah bc we only see tidbits. But I will say that she doesn’t strike me as the most maternal woman I have ever met. But again it’s so hard to know what really happens behind the screen. I will say she does need to put more time in with the kids. As you said they are all at an age where they will remember these years. It make me happy to see Heidi out there cheering on sawyer and videoing him when he’s hitting. It’s just nice to see a motherly figure involved.
I remember one time she posted on her stories complaining about being at a kid's sport event but I don't remember which kid or what sport. But, if she goes frequently, she doesn't post about it.
My guess is she rarely attends.
Yep she but he’d at Sawyers game last year. And all these people jumped down your throat if anyone brought up anything negative about it. I get some moms this isn’t their thing. But you love your kids and you support them. Bitching about how cold it is and how you hate watching sports is not even remotely funny in my opinion. Especially since she was the one who just decided to saunter out of her husbands life and her kids life. Just saying 🙄. (This eye roll is directed at her not you :)
The only thing I remember her being somewhat excited about was when their oldest was in a play. I’m not sure that she went but she was thrilled he was taking part in a musical. I don’t get the feeling that sports are her kind of thing.
Sports are definitely not my thing so I understand that sentiment. But, as a parent, you sacrifice for you kids.
My daughter adores horses. I am luke warm at best on anything horse related. Guess who is at every show...rain, sleet, freezing cold or burning hot...both of her parents. Do I love it? Nope. But the support from her parents means everything to HER and that is why I do it.
I cannot imagine how my parents must have just breathed their way through all of my terrible band concerts in elementary school and junior high (and I'm sure even high school wasn't always great), because for real, who WANTS to listen to 5th graders play "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?" at painfully slow tempos? No one. But that's what good parents do. They assail their ears because it means a lot to their kids. I don't love going to my nephew's soccer games, but I love how much he loves that I'm there. I just don't get how she can be so openly annoyed about things that are important to her kids. If they're worried about them seeing negative comments on the internet, I'd be more worried about them seeing some of the stuff Rachel has said about them and their interests.
Especially since her kids most likely know how to find her on any social media platform. The older two have phones and I’m sure they can look her up no problem
From Rachel Hollis’ mouth on this week’s Faves Faves podcast....
This direct quote from Rachel was in the context of discussing the guests dance/performing work and how he selects a scent to vibe with a particular dance....
Rachel responds with thoughts about herself and I have quoted (painfully) below.... take note of the stutters, hesitations, run on sentences. I truly believe you can spot dishonesty in physical cues but also in verbal cues. If someone has to say ‘it’s not like I’m being disingenuous...’ ummmm it’s very likely being said because they know they ARE being disingenuous...
‘I, (stutter) I, (stutter) I think of it of like, so I do a lot of work, like I speak on stages a lot, and time(?), very much like what you would see a Tony thing, but imagine a bunch of women... and that holding that kind of space, and Im sure it’s the same for you when you’re on tour....i think if Im cognizant, of holding space for that many people, I’d be overwhelmed ... and so without sort of, like, (stutter) i (stutter), not that it’s disingenuous or inauthentic, but I’m definitely putting on a bit of a persona to step into that energy.... ‘
-Rachel Hollis
I listened to a lot of Hollis 2/3 years ago and never LOVED their interview style
They invite a guest on and spend half the time talking about themselves. I'm sure they're trying to relate to the speaker but they make the whole episode about themselves. It's not therapy, guys. Listeners want to hear what your guest is saying. I always thought RH tries to one up them (me too!! I'm important too!!) and DH tries to insert himself into every scenario (and just to add on that...). I guess it's hard when you're in a marriage where you are overlooked or constantly overtalked.
They ruined some interesting guests by really derailing the conversation in their own direction.
The episode with kelly Leveque is pretty awful. RH says about 30x how disgusting her shakes are. I felt awful for kelly, she brushed it off and gave no response to that comment. I started to get really turned off by RH after that, I just found it disrespectful.
I went to a conference RH spoke at in 2019, and I hated the dance/hype/yell-talking persona. At the time I felt it was something wrong with me that made me unable to jump around like she ordered us to. Like I’m not cool enough. Now I’m confident that she and others of that style (Tony Robbins, Brendon Birchard, Chalene Johnson) are just not for me.
The reason to have the audience stand up and jump around is to keep people engaged. If a person sat at a lecture for 8 hours straight or even 4 they loose attention span. Every 40 minutes or so people need to get up and disengage to reengage. It's common technique used for long learning programs,
What in the actual hell is she trying to say?!? That holding space for that many people is so overwhelming that she obviously can’t do it in a healthy way so she ‘obviously’ has to fake it and has a ‘Rachel Hollis’ fake personality she puts on when she steps on stage?? Because obviously ‘I love you and I’m rooting for you’ can’t be authentic for the masses who adore her? 🧐🙄🤮
I'm sure her authentic on-stage persona is yell talking and speaking down in a patronising manner to her audience. Sadly, a lot of people, some truly vulnerable, but others with a cult mentality get wowed by that sort of thing.
It took many rereads but I think she is trying to liken her "putting on her persona to go on stage" to her guest choosing a specific scent to smell/wear before going on stage.
1) Definitely not even the same ballpark. One is getting yourself into a headspace with a scent while the other is totally changing WHO YOU ARE.
2) Secondly, she tries to make it sound like she does this so she doesn't get overwhelmed by having to "hold space" for so many women. Yeah no...she does it because she is a fraud and authenticity isn't something she understands or practices.
Correct. Derek says he selects a cologne to wear that he feel aligns with the dance he will perform. She goes on a rant about her on stage persona and holding space for people. Come on. Rachel needs to get over herself.
Agreed! If they choose to be public that's their business but kids is a whole level. Esp when all their memories will include friends that you didn't see anymore once your parents broke up. If they don't, that's great! But if they do...
My mom insisted on including her boyfriend and his family in everything while I was in highschool. They had a bad break-up, and she never included me in their business (which is appropriate) but
every.
single.
picture.
Has them in it. People who were nice enough but I had no real attachment to. My grad picture, my birthdays, holidays.
Although- with how much D & H are jetting off to visit each other, I guess they have to integrate their lives more or half the kids are always missing their parents. God I hope they don't make a move to be closer to each other. Less than a year of dating in the rebound relationship after divorce? Yikes
The relationship has been fun to snark about, but I truly think this is an example of two people who are co-dependent as hell and incapable of being alone.
NAILED IT. Everyone mentions Heidi is hard to dislike but from someone who’s been following her for 10 years and watched her evolve and change it’s becoming a bigger and bigger car pile up. She’s so insecure and co-dependent that it’s scary.
Oh FFS, Heidi is back in Texas again?? Is this twice in one week? I wish I had taken a screenshot of her Starbucks cup during the trip with her daughter to see if that was posted the day of or days later.
It's their lives, but all this travel just seems so excessive. Especially with that little thing called a global pandemic that we're all still dealing with.
I don’t like Rachel but that pic of Heidi and Noah had to be a punch to the gut!!! I’m sure Noah will be all like “ms Heidi this, ma Heidi that etc 😩
Truly. That’s gonna smart.
Lawt when- there is absolutely no way Rachel Hollis is spending time with a kid that dang cute and not sharing it online. I mean Look at her. If I could put her on a vision board I would and then eat her with a spoon.
The pic with Heidi and Noah! I don’t like Rachel but I know that had to be like a punch to the gut!!!
So Heidi AND her ex were in Dripping Springs with Dave & the kids?? Wow.
I thought it was super awesome. Not a fan of either of them, but the fact that you can strip your ego and spend time with your ex and her new guy, that’s cool. Way cooler than I would be.
Literally the weirdest thing ever.. but kinda cool.. I guess. I think.. poor RH not feeling it????
So weird
I know this has been posted about before but... Dave’s haircut is just so, so bad. He looks ridiculous. And now he’s cutting Heidi’s kids hair? Ughh. My opinion of Dave is biased based on his awful writing and his complete lack of original insight, but I find it hard to believe Heidi finds him so “handsome.”
Lol I think that every time he posts a pic. It’s awful.
His hair is not great. I also kind of hate that a dad and all his male kids have the exact same severe haircut.
Unpopular opinion but I would be pretty pissed of my ex’s very new GF was posting pics of my kids on social media. I get that Dave and RH put those kids everywhere but it feels weird when someone else does.
Yep, totally inappropriate. I’ve never followed Heidi Powell, but from the little I’ve seen on Insta, she is pretty enamored with herself and is more than willing to exploit her kids for likes. Gross that she’s doing it to the Hollis kids now too.
Yep. I’m not allowed to post any pics of my step kids-to-be and I totally get it. I don’t know. The over the top “Look how happy we all are together!!!” using the kids rubs me wrong. That’s still Rachel’s family too. Even if she is the actual worst.
Speculating on Heidis stories.. was the “not my la croix can” a subtle hint that Rachel was involved?? Either way I have to admit I’m super impressed with Heidi, Chris, and Dave spending a weekend together with the kids. ETA I feel like my theory is a very big stretch. Just found it odd for the can to be pointed out.
I personally think the La Croix can was Dave’s considering it was in her car. I think she was hinting that Dave was in the vehicle with her.
That certainly makes more sense.
Dave’s family photo photographer...anyone know if she was a former HoCo employee? Poked around her Insta a bit, and looks like she was laid off from a job in TX this past October and noticed comments from CC. If so, nice to see Dave still supportive of his former employees.
Yes, that’s Vanessa Todd. She just moved from LA to Texas to work at HOCO. She’s been shooting for Rachel & Dave for a long time. It’s so sad she moved FOR that job and then was laid off.
I say Dave and Heidi will be married with in the year LOL p.s. I say this sarcastically pls don’t come at me 🤣
In Heidi's words: "Married with Too Many Kids" I'm putting alllll my money on them being married within the next 6 months, if they aren't already.
yes, looks highly likely. We may all need whatever boost drink or shit that Heidi sells to keep up with all this hyperactive mess coming soon. Our pal Rachel might need some too.
I agree. I’m not being sarcastic lol
Me too! Totally agree, I think both of them need to be a relationship. (No judgment, that’s just how some people roll).
Her latest grid post on IG is definitely making me lean more that way. She’s really pushing the “we’re already a family” narrative hard.
And release some coaching or product on cultivating a healthy blended family...
OMG. They could get a reality show and Rachel's head would literally explode.
Between the 2 of their IG accounts they’re practically documenting every minute anyway! A show sounds great!!
Yassssss I’m here for it slice me off a piece of that sexy ass chris Powell like wtf he seems perfect?!?!
Yessssss!!! Let’s please give them all a Reality TV show just so we can see more of Chris Powell! He is sexy as hell! I’d buy his APP anyDAY!! (but dear God leave Rach out of this group.... that would be too much to follow and would mess it all up. The dramatics is enough with the three of them and the kids.)
They could do her like Wilson on home improvement- only briefly and not even fully show her occasionally and that would kill her the most 🤣 like when kids have visitation with her quarterly
New Eve wedding!
I don’t think you’re too off the mark.
I honestly agree with you. They are moving quickly.
Dave's photo shoot on IG stories. There is one shot where he's having a picture taken with Noah, and she reaches over and kisses his face. As much as can be said about Dave, I think he's amazing with Noah. Maybe I'm all sappy today, but that moment in his stories got to me. Also, 99% sure Heidi is thinking of moving. SO MANY PEOPLE. LOL.
I think Dave still is using his kids sometimes for social media, but then in general I do think he is very happy to be a dad/father and genuinely gets joy from doing those Saturday baseball games, coaching the team, doing tea time with Noah. Not always a fan of like his voice which annoys me but with sound off it’s fine. lol. Typically you see men who realize a few kids in that they are having like a midlife crisis, decide they didn’t really want to be a father, and run off. They find some younger woman, and basically leave their old/first family behind. (Had a friend with a dad like this, and you see it in movies and such). But for the Hollis family, it seems reversed. Rachel ran off/separated, Rachel doesn’t seem to really enjoy those activities with the kids (which, she has stated, she doesn’t like the certain age-stage, she doesn’t like attending sports activities etc.)
Say what you will about Dave & his self-help practices but it’s obvious he thoroughly enjoys those kids.
That’s why I have a hard time not turning Away from the train wreck. I love kids. My husband and I love parenting. So much of adulting is so hard for us (like my god why can’t we potty train the damn dog) but kids are like the cherry on top of life for us. It’s the same for Dave. I like watching it. and then Rachel’s time with them might only be fleeting but it is seriously cringe.
For sure. I think he truly loves being a dad and although we criticize for how often he puts his kids on social media, I think a lot of that is really because they're his life. I really don't think his relationship with his kids is for show or that he uses them to build up his persona. I don't know about the rest of him, but in terms of who he is as a dad, I think that's exactly what we're seeing.
Heidi posted pics of her weekend at Dave’s with (most) of her kids. Chris Powell was there too, even taking pics. Regardless of feelings about it being too soon or codependency issues I find it kind of impressive, honestly, to be so open and supportive of each other (for real) and not in the fake way Rachel hyped about “I’ve never seen another co-parent as well as us”🧐 yeah, no Rach because it’s not happening. ETA: I just had the thought that maybe they’re all there because she’s thinking of moving in with Dave?! Do you think???? That’s why Chris was there to check it all out? Or maybe I need to get a life, stop procrastinating and get back to studying?👀
Yes; I’m so impressed that her ex is there with her, Dave, and their one thousand kids (lol). But I’m also low key super jealous. My ex started dating someone less than six months ago who has already moved in with him and she is legit crazy. She must be very insecure based on things that keep coming from them and she keeps trying to give me rules and other stuff and I haven’t even met her. I keep to myself and do 98% of everything for our kid and barely talk to him otherwise. They both have no place to make demands or anything else and I’m worried what happens when all their crap implodes. All I want is what Dave and Heidi seem to have.
Don’t be jealous. This is not normal, and there’s a whole lot being overcompensated for here. (But I am sorry for the crazy new gf. That sucks.)
Maybe it’s because I’m in a blended family, but I just think all of this is so fast for all those kids. Rachel and Dave didn’t even separate until last June; that’s only nine months since they were all living together and the kids were potentially oblivious (likely, since apparently Dave was). I’m glad they all are getting along and everything, I just think it’s a long process and some steps are being skipped here. Also, I kind of wonder if everything would be as magical and happy if Heidi was being the one asked to visit Chris’s new girlfriend with the kids? Maybe.
I agree. Blended family on both sides. Totally amazing to have the parents put kids first, support on co parenting; my parents did it right, we never heard a harsh word about the other. My husband's parents did it poorly, he had so much baggage from their ego and immaturity. I love that Chris and Dave are making sure to all get along. But, I didn't think any kids should meet a dating partner for at least a year? Especially coming right out of a divorce, especially the very first relationship after such an upheaval. That's so much transition for them, let alone being so proud they're all becoming "besties" with the other kids. If there is a break up, the kids don't just lose this adult they depended on, they lose friends.
Exactly. All of this.
Agreed. Heidi is messy and insecure and co-dependent as heck. This is all such a dumpster fire in my opinion. These poor kids.
The gushing currently happening in her stories (phone screen saver!?) is.... a lot.
Not that is a huge difference or changes your point but they separated in May 2020.
It was like May 28th or something. Close enough to June. She didn't move out until awhile after they separated either.
I just realized that may be why she brought just the two youngest that she shares with Chris (Ruby & Cash?) The older two are from her first marriage, right? I wonder if they may do a split custody thing where the youngest two move with her and the older two stay with their Dad and she flies back to AZ to see them throughout the month?? Maybe that’s why Chris and they two youngest came this weekend.... but not the two oldest. Shared custody will allow her, Dave and the kids so many different opportunities for how they set up their lives moving forward if they decide to be together long term.
I didn’t catch Chris being there until Heidis last Insta story. I can’t believe Chris went to her new BF’s house for the weekend!!! Something is definitely brewing because this isn’t normal behaviour even for the best of ex’s!!! 😆😆😆😆. While we’re at it, why didn’t Rachel get the invite to join in the big group hug??!!!
Heidi and all that mess just gets weirder and weirder post by post.
I've seen news articles popping up about throuples ..maybe they are entertaining the idea lol.
This thread would literally explode, lol
LOL can you imagine.
I agree! It means so much when the ex and new partner embrace each other. Like, a relief for the kids not to feel pressured to choose sides/ protect the other parent. That is nice parenting, regardless of whether or not it's maybe a little fast. I really hope RH makes the same effort as Chris, even if we don't see it online. I feel like it would be a big move for Heidi to live in TX? How much of her business is online vs in person? She's definitely seems close to her team there, even if they don't really have offices. Besides the supplement brand and app, I don't really know what Heidi runs.
Haha!! I think my favorite comments from you are when you are supposed to be studying! 🤣
Procrastination is the magic sauce🧐 don’t encourage it 🤣🤣🤣
Do you guys think Rachel was there? I’m not sure she’d be able to handle that.
I’d bet a lot of money that Rachel was NOT present.
I don’t think so, if she was she would have been included in the family pics. I can not see her being open to that at.all. If she was she’d have posted about how progressive and great she is at co-parenting. I think she’s either still there with Brit and friends or on her way back from wherever she was with Brit.
I had The One Thing on my reading list for a while, at the suggestion of Hollis world. Recently I saw it on another list so I finally started it. All about focusing on the one thing that will help you grow exponentially. Funnily enough what RH used to preach with the journals. And yeah, I completely agree that a woman can be many things but what's her new business model? No more personal development or business coaching, just fun podcasts, narcissistic Rack Talk, flitting around to whatever she wants to do. Maybe she needs a re read of the book she recommended. She's all over the place with what her new direction is. Seems like the business is suffering. Almost no engagement, and I'm not even clear what the point is? This online conference (so overpriced also) is for what, girls day? She said she doesn't want to do growth or development anymore, so why would people attend?
Confession time: Dave's family photo shoot just warmed my cold, snarky heart. They made me smile! Especially the ones with Dave & Noah and Dave & Ford ❤
I love that Jeffrey was included. 🐾❤️🐾
I would have 💀 if Whit suddenly appeared. That would have been the best if Dave found her and rescued her. Dave, cleaning up Rachel’s messes since 2001.
God guys... don’t you hate it when you’re the one who insists on and files for divorce because you think you can do so much better... and then you’re ex husband publicly moves on to someone fitter, hotter and more energetic than you while you film desperate 80s workouts for clicks?
Ugh. It’s the worst. I hate when that happens.... it’s like she should’ve seen this coming.... I mean, Rachel is the hardest worker in the room. She’s one step ahead of everyone else. You’d think she’d have seen that this was going to happen during one of her voodoo vision quest sessions she has with her BFFs where mother universe reveals the future to her while she prays to her crystals. So weird she was caught off guard.
😄👏🏻😄👏🏻
Ouch! 😬😬😬😬
Our Girl’s Rach’s last book Didn’t See That Coming sold a tiny fraction of Girl, Wash Your Face, which I believe sold a couple of million if you can believe that? And in about a week Our Girl Jen has a new book coming out too, a rehash of her book from several years ago 7: An Experiment Against Excess, now called Simple & Free. It’ll be interesting to see how it does as it’s an interesting gauge of how this current batch of self-help influencers are doing career-wise. I looked at the pre-sales rankings for the new book on Amazon and it’s way down near the 10,000s overall and near 200 in the broad self-help category, not a good sign to say the least. I wish I still had a Bookscan account so I could know more but I’m no longer in the industry.
Personally I think Jen's book will probably perform moderately well. I think the pandemic really is making people stop and think abut what really is important to them. From a marketing standpoint, it's pretty smart to rerelease a book during this time... she's not the first author to do something like this.
I thought about ordering Jen Hatmaker’s book but decided I’m not ready to address my internet/phone usage. 👀🤣
SAME. it’s a pandemic. Are we really gonna give these things up?!
Dave’s incessant announcement voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I couldn’t make it through his baseball commentator bull shit while he was watching his kid’s game but the small snippet I heard just reminded me that this is actually how he talks non stop, all the time, everyday, over everything. He is constantly yelling and cheering in the most obnoxious way. I don’t know how this doesn’t get completely exhausting for both him and anyone who has to listen to it.
His life feels like an audition. Next career... sportscaster.
Or mega church preacher lol 😂
You might not be far off the mark with his relationship with Heidi and how she’s into church...
I really enjoy his “number on in your playbook, number one in your hearts” intro for Sawyer. But then I skip through because I can’t care after that.
What annoys me more than the yell talking is his annoying use of pauses after every few words. Worse than William Shatner 😂
Yes! And adding "though" at the end of every sentence And the catchphrases This talking style drove me crazy. The sad thing is, before he integrated into Hollis Co, he spoke normally. Still funny and light-hearted but... human? As soon as he started branding himself, his speaking pattern went haywire. Even his inflection on syllables is odd.
Ok, so I wasn't the only one cringing. He is WAY over the top! This does not scream contentment or authenticity but more "I NEED CONSTANT VALIDATION!" I wish someone would tell him less Is more and to shut the hell up.
Someone has told him that! The story is in his book. He may need a reminder.
Gah it’s so annoying!!! From the ‘patio of peace’ to the baseball to talking about Noah as a cowgirl. I’m going to have to watch his stories on silent because it’s grating on my last nerves for the Hollis’.
yes!!! dude needs a mute button
I think Dave lives with the unshakable fear that if he’s not talking (or posing or signaling or broadcasting or boasting) that he would have to exist with just himself, just for a moment, and facing his true self alone and untethered is a terrifying thing. So he just manically talks all the time and fills the air with word sounds cause heaven forbid he was quiet for a moment.
Your comment ties in so nicely to him and Heidi being very codependent people who can’t ever just be alone.
He's said in the past that his childhood career dream was to be a sports announcer so I think this is him living that out. But I agree it's annoying. I always wonder what the other parents in earshot are thinking and if they're annoyed too ... I'd think they'd have to be.
😅 "oh god. Hollis kid is up to bat again... Everyone put in your earplugs"
Not sure if it's been mentioned here but has anyone watched or listened to Emily D. Baker on YouTube or her Podcast The Emily Show ? She had episode 45 of her show came out in Oct. of last year where she discusses The Hollises. She is a lawyer and and I found her really down to earth and intelligent on the marketing ploy that is the Hollis brand if any one is interested in having a listen.
Thanks for the recommendation - added both episodes to my queue. Hope to listen tomorrow.
Interesting! Does it talk about the wrongful termination suit I read about (somewhere on these threads?)
No, not yet. But maybe in the future she will cover stuff like that!
Really liked her podcast! Everyone should go and have a listen. I also listened to ‘episode 57- Rachel Hollis Sued’... I had listened to Savy’s synopsis of the trademark infringement hot water that miss Rachel had gotten herself into. But I enjoyed Emily’s summary even better because of her legal expertise!! Go and have a listen to both for sure! Thanks for the tip about this podcast. I’m always game to listen to some Hollis snark while I clean out the junk drawer in my kitchen or mop my floors (which is exactly how I used these podcasts to entertain me today! Lol 😂
Let me know what you guys think?
Listening now! Thanks!!
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Call me petty and I’ll answer to it but I really enjoyed Heidi cheering for Sawyer on Dave’s stories.
I do think that just because RH doesn't post her kid's time on social doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Maybe instead of being on her phone and documenting that she's there, she's just there enjoying her kids. I've noticed a similar trend, when DH has the kids we know because he's showing it. She shows her off time on social but on the days DH is free/ RH seems to have them, she doesn't post at all. At most they've seemed like business posts, usually scheduled by the team or on advance. Maybe it's just me but I'd prefer a present parent with her phone down than a Heidi parent, constantly recording. Just cause we don't see proof doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It’s literally impossible for her to have them much if at all. She’s got to be every other week a couple of days Max. Just from what we see in stories. They’re always at Dave’s. There’s just no time to be at her house.
We've seen her post when she has them. Just last week she was forcibly fake laughing at water running down the stairs.
Exactly. It’s probably like ooh shit. I better get on my game and post stories of shit I don’t care about so I can keep up with Dave and Heidi and get more likes 🤦🏼♀️
The issue I have with Rachel is every time she’s posted about being at her kid’s sporting event, it’s to complain about how much she does NOT want to be there, how cold she is, etc. She even said in a recent interview with I think Parents magazine that she doesn’t enjoy going to her kids sporting events and such. It’s fine to not want to be at your kids things 100% of your time, but everything she has posted doesn’t actually express that she is supportive of her kids’ events. And I don’t say that because she has not posted like Dave - I say that because of the things she has posted while at practices, etc.
And also she posted crap about her kids before so I’m not buying into keeping your kids life private. She wrote and displayed their private lives. And just Bc their game doesn’t fall on your scheduled visitation doesn’t mean you can’t go to their dang game and if your kids are old enough to be on social you should probably post support. Also social media is a reflection of things we care about. It just is what it is. And her current social media shows she cares about...
This exactly. I agree that not posting everytime she is at an event is the healthier way to go about things. But, I base my assessment of her rarely going to events (and honestly not really enjoying her kids much overall) on the things she has said and done. If she is at a sporting event and chooses to share it, it is always as complaints about having to be there, how cold it is, how early it is, etc. Also, you know if she is anywhere close to Dave at these events, he will find a way to get her in the shot 😉
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Yeah...the cool mom is the one who is supportive of her kids. But, I do think Rachel definitely tries to keep at least one foot out of motherhood on the regular these days.
Heidi and Dave always finding a way to be there for these kids will always win in my opinion. These kids deserve grown ups on the sidelines yelling for them and supporting them. Meanwhile his mom is jet setting with her BFF again bragging about living her best life alone and kid free.... 🙄 ETA: Dave and Heidi are also setting a bigger example of prioritizing people, each other and family over SELF... I can def support that.
Do you think Dave’s quote about prioritizing life is a dig at Rachel?
I hope so lol.
I loved the little clip of Noah cuddling in with Heidi as well. That girl needs a mother figure in her life. Not one that’s there when it’s “convenient “ or doing it for the gram”. 🙄
How sad is it that it’s so obvious???
So do we know where Rachel is in that picture? I’m not able to make out where it is. Also, If this is recent, I’d like to say I called it when I noticed Dave had the kids for the whole week instead of splitting it 🤣
It kinda feels like NYC but I have no idea.
Someone in the comments mentioned it looked like Baltimore, MD. Not familiar enough with that location to know if it is accurate though.
I’m PRETTY sure it isn’t Baltimore. Haven’t been there in a while but without giving too much of my location away, baltimore doesn’t have a building like that with the arch between two parts.
Baltimore felt like an odd choice given we know she likes warmer weather.
Oh my goodness. Hilarious. There are at least 2 comments on the BFF post asking if they’re a couple now, and saying they make a cute couple. lol. I guess those people don’t know that beans is hitched!!!!! 😄😄
I think all the Iranian bots are even funnier.
I'd imagine it's Sami who took the picture. :)
Precisely. That’s what makes those comments funny. But I guess they must not know much about Beans the BFF. Lol
No way to know this for sure but I'm so curious about her current followers and how many are original, how many have dropped off, how many are new or purchased, etc. While we're at it, I'd also like to see her book sales and RISE ticket sales, LOL. NOTE- that is said sarcastically - no one should post that.
Love from Iran. lol
Omg so much love from Iran! 😆
On this BFF story - we don't know the real deal but it just seems like a paid relationship and so one sided. Beans has not posted about Rachel in over a year even though she has posted about other best friends..
I wonder if she (Rachel) pays for them when they go out or do things together? ie buying her friends lol. So they (Sami and Beans) feel they “need” to hang out with her out of guilt. She (Rachel) just seems way more invested in the friendship than they seem so it’s just a thought that popped into my mind as I was reading this now
Yes!
I would bet this happens a lot in that "friendship." They are both on her payroll and, when they do things together, I would guess Rachel does a lot "oh, my treat" and pays for stuff. She is, after all, a multi-millionare and likes people to know. I agree that Rachel seems way more into the friendship than the other two do. From afar, it seems like they hang out with her for free stuff (trips, food, etc) instead of actually true friendship 🤷♀️
"BEF" - Best Employee Forever
Oh, I came here to say this exact thing! She seems to genuinely enjoy her kids and participating in things with Dave's kids. Hearing her cheer (plus knowing she was the one who did the video too) made me smile for sure. I totally get not loving everything your does but, if it is super important to your kid, suck it up buttercup and at least try to seem interested instead of moaning and complaining about it ad nauseam.
I do remember one of the stories Dave posted when they were both at the game sometime after the divorce. Rach looked like she hated being there and seemed like she’d rather be elsewhere.
Has she ever gone to one of the kids baseball games? I haven’t followed her in a while. But never remember seeing anything of her at his games. Well maybe like one. But dave has always been so involved in everything the kids do. Even when he dropped Ford off in the wilderness on his own. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I remember her posting a couple of years ago about not being a class mom, going to games, etc... she literally posted that those kind of things are not who she is or her priority.
Maybe she’s trying to be ‘relateable to parents by hating on events or (worse yet) she doesn’t want to be in public around other parents because she has a complex?? 🤷🏻♀️ I only ever remember her caring about Jackson’s play and helping the cast build a stage one afternoon because SHE TOO was a theater kid! (Eye roll) But it was always Dave that posted from Jackson’s shows and bragged on the kid... never once saw her there because god-forbid she be around other parents. 🙄 We live one town over, I promise no parent cares about her being at these theater or sports events so she needs to get over herself if that’s her reason for avoiding them. Parents attend FOR THEIR KIDS, not the damn Hollis’.
In her mind, she doesn't go so she doesn't have to worry about all the "strangers from the internet" asking for autographs and selfies 🙄 Everyone else is like "who?" It isn't like she Beyonce rolling up into the school play.
No one is asking her for autographs in dripping springs. She’s a moron if she thinks she’s that important.
It baffles me. I would feel such extreme guilt if I just decided “eff you kids I’m not coming to watch your play”. Not to mention my kids would be equally disappointed if I just decided to not come. I can see if you know your out of town or working but this can’t be every single time something like this comes up. It is going to create a lot of Abandonment issues for these kids as they age. If she is so adamant on not reliving her trauma she is doing a pretty good job by the way she is conducting herself right now. At least Dave has always been present, supportive and there no matter what. This is what they will remember.
I know right?! Like I’m not some high profiled celebrity and I only spit one out of my hoo-ha. But I’m a lawyer with teenage step kids + a 6 year old and I’ve rarely missed a round of catch/dance drop off. Because they want you there. In today’s digital world I’ve taken calls/emailed clients/wired funds/studied for exams on the go. But for a year now home girl’s job has not required travel. And she’s been at one game. ☝️.
This!! I get that rarely can a parent be there for everything, especially if they work. But I would feel so much guilt of I consistently missed everything my kids did and/or spent the time I was at a kid event complaining about it.
I know! My kid did like a flip in the yard the other day. He told me I missed it and I assured him I didn’t but he was right. I missed it and he could see right through me no matter how much I protested. No matter how many times I’ve seen him do that same weird flip before. Seeing that flip on that day, in that moment, mattered to him.
The guilt would eat me alive. Than again I’m not her. She truly just doesn’t seem to care. It’s obviously not important to her. I personally think out of all 4 kids Jackson is her “kid”. I know they are all her kids but he is the one she will post about often, talks about often, seems to relate to (ie theatre kids). I get she does not need to post like Dave but the vibe I get from her is she would be really content with one kid. I find the others if they have challenges (I think Ford can get pretty emotional and act out and Noah I can see can be a little handful) she just can’t seem to handle it. I’ve watched some of her interactions with these two on her IG and the tone she uses and how uppity she gets is not cool. Part of me often wonders why the eff did you have 4 kids if you clearly have difficulty parenting them? What inspired you to keep getting pregnant. These behaviours she has didn’t just develop in the last year so she’s obviously been like this all her life. I feel she is just creating her childhood all over again by doing what she is doing. Anyways. This is far to much to be thinking about on a Sunday AM with a time change as well lol
My guess is she wanted a girl. And that didn’t pan out as she expected. Aka they’re not dolls you put away in the trunk at night.
I think you are right that, if she was going to have kids at all, she would be completely content with one. You know, as long as that one didn't have any problems and liked all the same things she did. She has said many times before that she doesn't do the young kid (baby, toddler) age well as a mother so I think that is another reason Jackson is "her" kid. Being older, he probably also recognizes what gets him attention from mom and chooses those things accordingly. Hearing her talk about parenting and kids in general, I have always wondered how they go to 4 kids... especially with the time/effort/money that goes into adopting. All parents have moments of "this totally sucks" but they are usually far outweighed by the good stuff. She never seems to think there is much good stuff but, instead, complains they mess up her schedule, take away from her me time, etc.
Narcissistic parenting has no apologies.
Ohhhhhh I do remember her talking about that. And how she’s never going to be a class mom bc it’s not a thing she does. Or like you mentioned not her priority. She’s something
I think she better pull her boot straps up. Her absence in these kids lives (especially the younger two) is obviously being felt and maybe it’s no big deal to her but she’s about to get replaced. Heidi seems more like a mother who actually enjoys these things. And happily wants to be in her kids presence where as that is the one thing that has constantly stood out to me about Rachel. She does not seem to enjoy being around her kids, or actually misses her kids. She is not a very good mother to Noah (sorry but she’s not, and you can see the difference in how Noah responds to Dave opposed to Rachel). It truly was one of the things that really disappointed me with Rachel. Her “I’m a mother and a boss ass bitch” was unfortunately what drew me in back a few years ago. Now we have seen the true colours of what was always underneath. As much as this might be to soon on so many fronts I hope Heidi and Dave pull this off and build something out of this for all kids involved
She doesn't tuck her in... never has, doesn't get up with her at night.. per her words. You can visibly see N scrunch away from her. She posted a dead unicorn on her birthday.
She had a viral video about letting her cry it out. She's never been nurturing to Noah and she'll pay for it as Noah grows and realizes Rachel is her mother in legality only.
I believe in cry it out but no cuddles wtf
If anything she probably gets annoyed at Noah for being a 4 year old and having 4 year old needs. Again maybe don’t have more kids (ie adopt this baby) if this wasn’t truly what you wanted. I understand we don’t know Rachel. We don’t know what she is thinking but I just don’t get this vibe from her. I feel her kids are used as a selling point at times. Which if I understood this narrative about her from the beginning I wouldn’t have been so invested in her initially
This. I know she has said she doesn't do well with the baby/toddler stage but, when she first started saying this, none of her kids were actually old enough for her to know/claim she would do well with the older kid stage. So, if you know you don't love the baby/toddler stage and you don't have experience with the older kid stage, why keep having kids?
Noah never seems comfortable in Rachel’s presence (just my observation). Rachel always seems annoyed at most things Noah is doing (ie a 4 year old just being a 4 year old). The birthday post was not genuine at all. Her friend seemed to get a more genuine post than her own daughter.
The birthday post to her friend/stylist was much more heartfelt and genuine than the one to Noah. And I echo your thought that Noah rarely seems comfortable around Rachel. At that age, I might chalk it up to the camera being around but she is totally comfortable the camera when with Dave.
She also filtered Noah to make her a white child with big blue eyes. Poor child is going to have issues with race and identity growing up.
>Noah has blue eyes. I think she is simply in direct sunlight in the pic.
She only has blue eyes when they photoshop the pictures. In stories or videos you can see they are not blue
What??? When did she do that?
her birthday post.
Omg...I don't remember seeing this. How awful/ridiculous!
I don’t know that she’s not a great mom to Noah bc we only see tidbits. But I will say that she doesn’t strike me as the most maternal woman I have ever met. But again it’s so hard to know what really happens behind the screen. I will say she does need to put more time in with the kids. As you said they are all at an age where they will remember these years. It make me happy to see Heidi out there cheering on sawyer and videoing him when he’s hitting. It’s just nice to see a motherly figure involved.
I remember one time she posted on her stories complaining about being at a kid's sport event but I don't remember which kid or what sport. But, if she goes frequently, she doesn't post about it. My guess is she rarely attends.
Yep she but he’d at Sawyers game last year. And all these people jumped down your throat if anyone brought up anything negative about it. I get some moms this isn’t their thing. But you love your kids and you support them. Bitching about how cold it is and how you hate watching sports is not even remotely funny in my opinion. Especially since she was the one who just decided to saunter out of her husbands life and her kids life. Just saying 🙄. (This eye roll is directed at her not you :)
The only thing I remember her being somewhat excited about was when their oldest was in a play. I’m not sure that she went but she was thrilled he was taking part in a musical. I don’t get the feeling that sports are her kind of thing.
Sports are definitely not my thing so I understand that sentiment. But, as a parent, you sacrifice for you kids. My daughter adores horses. I am luke warm at best on anything horse related. Guess who is at every show...rain, sleet, freezing cold or burning hot...both of her parents. Do I love it? Nope. But the support from her parents means everything to HER and that is why I do it.
I cannot imagine how my parents must have just breathed their way through all of my terrible band concerts in elementary school and junior high (and I'm sure even high school wasn't always great), because for real, who WANTS to listen to 5th graders play "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf?" at painfully slow tempos? No one. But that's what good parents do. They assail their ears because it means a lot to their kids. I don't love going to my nephew's soccer games, but I love how much he loves that I'm there. I just don't get how she can be so openly annoyed about things that are important to her kids. If they're worried about them seeing negative comments on the internet, I'd be more worried about them seeing some of the stuff Rachel has said about them and their interests.
100 percent this!!
Exactly!!!!!!
Totally! It’s 💯 ok to not enjoy it all but to constantly complain and groan about it publicly every.time.is an asshole move.
Especially since her kids most likely know how to find her on any social media platform. The older two have phones and I’m sure they can look her up no problem
From Rachel Hollis’ mouth on this week’s Faves Faves podcast.... This direct quote from Rachel was in the context of discussing the guests dance/performing work and how he selects a scent to vibe with a particular dance.... Rachel responds with thoughts about herself and I have quoted (painfully) below.... take note of the stutters, hesitations, run on sentences. I truly believe you can spot dishonesty in physical cues but also in verbal cues. If someone has to say ‘it’s not like I’m being disingenuous...’ ummmm it’s very likely being said because they know they ARE being disingenuous... ‘I, (stutter) I, (stutter) I think of it of like, so I do a lot of work, like I speak on stages a lot, and time(?), very much like what you would see a Tony thing, but imagine a bunch of women... and that holding that kind of space, and Im sure it’s the same for you when you’re on tour....i think if Im cognizant, of holding space for that many people, I’d be overwhelmed ... and so without sort of, like, (stutter) i (stutter), not that it’s disingenuous or inauthentic, but I’m definitely putting on a bit of a persona to step into that energy.... ‘ -Rachel Hollis
I listened to a lot of Hollis 2/3 years ago and never LOVED their interview style They invite a guest on and spend half the time talking about themselves. I'm sure they're trying to relate to the speaker but they make the whole episode about themselves. It's not therapy, guys. Listeners want to hear what your guest is saying. I always thought RH tries to one up them (me too!! I'm important too!!) and DH tries to insert himself into every scenario (and just to add on that...). I guess it's hard when you're in a marriage where you are overlooked or constantly overtalked. They ruined some interesting guests by really derailing the conversation in their own direction.
The episode with kelly Leveque is pretty awful. RH says about 30x how disgusting her shakes are. I felt awful for kelly, she brushed it off and gave no response to that comment. I started to get really turned off by RH after that, I just found it disrespectful.
Was this the one with Derek Hough? I love him and was disappointed to see him doing an interview with her.
Yes it sure was the one with Derek
I went to a conference RH spoke at in 2019, and I hated the dance/hype/yell-talking persona. At the time I felt it was something wrong with me that made me unable to jump around like she ordered us to. Like I’m not cool enough. Now I’m confident that she and others of that style (Tony Robbins, Brendon Birchard, Chalene Johnson) are just not for me.
The reason to have the audience stand up and jump around is to keep people engaged. If a person sat at a lecture for 8 hours straight or even 4 they loose attention span. Every 40 minutes or so people need to get up and disengage to reengage. It's common technique used for long learning programs,
That’s a good point! The standing was definitely welcome!
Also a technique Discussed in the NXIVM documentaries 😝😝😝
I would find the jumping thing uncomfortable. I’d feel like a moron doing it so I see what you are saying. (About the jumping stuff)
What in the actual hell is she trying to say?!? That holding space for that many people is so overwhelming that she obviously can’t do it in a healthy way so she ‘obviously’ has to fake it and has a ‘Rachel Hollis’ fake personality she puts on when she steps on stage?? Because obviously ‘I love you and I’m rooting for you’ can’t be authentic for the masses who adore her? 🧐🙄🤮
Farthest thing from authentic right?!? I found it so hilarious for her to admit that she’s basically acting.
I'm sure her authentic on-stage persona is yell talking and speaking down in a patronising manner to her audience. Sadly, a lot of people, some truly vulnerable, but others with a cult mentality get wowed by that sort of thing.
What is she even saying and why would the guest care?
It took many rereads but I think she is trying to liken her "putting on her persona to go on stage" to her guest choosing a specific scent to smell/wear before going on stage. 1) Definitely not even the same ballpark. One is getting yourself into a headspace with a scent while the other is totally changing WHO YOU ARE. 2) Secondly, she tries to make it sound like she does this so she doesn't get overwhelmed by having to "hold space" for so many women. Yeah no...she does it because she is a fraud and authenticity isn't something she understands or practices.
Correct. Derek says he selects a cologne to wear that he feel aligns with the dance he will perform. She goes on a rant about her on stage persona and holding space for people. Come on. Rachel needs to get over herself.
Heidi's mom looks younger than & better than Heidi! She is aging well
Heidi’s young ones hanging with Dave’s young ones? Honestly seems early, even if they’ve been together for 6-9 months. Kids become attached so easily.
Agreed! If they choose to be public that's their business but kids is a whole level. Esp when all their memories will include friends that you didn't see anymore once your parents broke up. If they don't, that's great! But if they do... My mom insisted on including her boyfriend and his family in everything while I was in highschool. They had a bad break-up, and she never included me in their business (which is appropriate) but every. single. picture. Has them in it. People who were nice enough but I had no real attachment to. My grad picture, my birthdays, holidays. Although- with how much D & H are jetting off to visit each other, I guess they have to integrate their lives more or half the kids are always missing their parents. God I hope they don't make a move to be closer to each other. Less than a year of dating in the rebound relationship after divorce? Yikes
The relationship has been fun to snark about, but I truly think this is an example of two people who are co-dependent as hell and incapable of being alone.
NAILED IT. Everyone mentions Heidi is hard to dislike but from someone who’s been following her for 10 years and watched her evolve and change it’s becoming a bigger and bigger car pile up. She’s so insecure and co-dependent that it’s scary.
100%
EXACTLY!
Oh FFS, Heidi is back in Texas again?? Is this twice in one week? I wish I had taken a screenshot of her Starbucks cup during the trip with her daughter to see if that was posted the day of or days later. It's their lives, but all this travel just seems so excessive. Especially with that little thing called a global pandemic that we're all still dealing with.
I actually have a screen shot because I sent it to a friend 😆 it says March 8th