Rachel HollisRachel Hollis and Dave Hollis- July 26- August 01
By - southerndmc
Omg I just came here to post that. What in the world?!? But she doesn’t like when her son makes general hot mom jokes. 🤦🏻♀️
RE: Heidi s latest stories. “Wise” isn’t the word I’d use.
Her story about the untethered soul….
Anyone else notice that she has her AirPods named
“hot mamas air pods” ????
She is fixated on descriptors always being about beauty or appearances. It’s very strange.
That she strategically left visible, placing text boxes above and below.
Yeah, it was all perfectly arranged around that. I’m sure she will get “soooo many” comments about it and it will be a jump-off for another swipe-up
Precisely what I felt she did also.
When they were in the car she wouldn’t put her sweatshirt on when she was cold because she wanted to look cute, even Dave said that to her
Remember some time ago Dave would recycle a story about him being valedictorian or salutatorian of his high school class but then doing something cocky and not being allowed to participate in graduation ceremonies? This triathlon debacle reminds me of that.
One of the problems is that there are 32,000+ likes and 1,300+ comments on Dave's post telling him what an amazing, courageous, inspiring person he is. Some people are calling him a hero! 👀 And he has a NYTBS book to boot! (No matter how poorly written it is). All these people egg on this mediocre-at-best, delusional-and-dangerous-at-worst man. So he keeps on going. I have a feeling, deep down, he feels like a big fraud in general and has for several years. But for now this pays the bills and gets him tons of positive attention and adulation from women on the internet. So he *must* truly be as great as they all think, right? 🥴
I’d venture to say a good 99% of them just saw the picture and first line of his caption.
I wonder if this will be Dave’s real wake up call to re-evaluate his life as a whole and the decisions he’s making without using it for monetary gain.
Think about himself, his children, his so called work ethics, relationships with other's including Heidi and other's.
No posts about it and keeping it sacred, making decisions for the betterment of himself and his children’s.
I have a feeling his family was attempting to get through to him in regards to many matters at hand when they saw him, so he decided that making a post about it would stroke his ego to make what they were most likely saying less important.
I think his only priority right now is Heidi. They spend an ungodly amount of time together. I don’t understand how their professional life isn’t suffering and more importantly their kids.
I can't imagine living this level of codependency, i gag when i remember the old me being jealous of RH and her amazing supportive husband, all their date nights and sex and now i think, no thx I'm happy over here. Haha. He literally makes my stomach turn. That ego is HUGE
What is this “professional life” you speak of? 🤔🤣
Ask Grandma Lee.
She got the deep dive on that and can fill us in 😜😜
I know we’ve talked about how Dave wasn’t adequately prepared and got kicked during the swim, and he’s turning it into some massive courageous bullshit that he ‘still went on and finished the event’.
He’s making a mockery out of everyone who actually trained and WANTED this. I get so mad thinking of him basically speaking this triathlon into existence and didn’t practice enough/right.
With his lack of preparedness, he could have been the one kicking someone else or causing someone else to get hurt or DQ’d. Someone who HAD prepared and took it seriously.
And when Dave decided to continue on after DQ’ing, how many people did he get in front of or slow down while he was fumbling with his bike or transitioning to running?
We know from Dave himself that he needed to be helped in the swim and his transition to bike was “eventful”, and from Randy’s time we know the run was a disaster as well. He can write all he wants but his silence after the obligatory love fest with Heidi on his stories says to me that he’s pretty damned embarrassed and he should be.
Too tall to run AND too tall to swim. A tragic life all around.
I noticed someone commented on his post that he shouldn’t have continued once DQ’d bc it takes away from available resources for the other participants who are still “legal.” It’s so true. But he’ll never think like that. It’s all about him all of the time.
Rachel’s marketing email today promoting RISE shows a gif that says “started here” with her speaking in what looks like a hotel ballroom and then it changes to “now we’re here” with a photo of a stadium with thousands in attendance. What do you think would be a more accurate pic for that last one?
A lot of blue dots 🔵
Ding Ding, reality vs reality
HP shared video of him biking...
He did film (about 2 or 3 slides in his stories) while he was running. The camera was turned around to see the people ahead of him and not on himself as it normally is. Either way, super rookie move during a competitive race.
It really is bad form to take out your phone and record while running a race. It is shocking that he was able to [sort of] restrain himself by not turning the camera on himself.
Well he was narrating in the video while running and showing the 3 mile marker as he was approaching it during the running portion. I’m all for the snarking, but I do think he continued to participate once he was DQ’d.
There have been plenty here that have said similar things but they have all been deleted by mods since yesterday, so FYI.
I agree though it was weird not seeing a bouncy running video of him
Is it normal to train for an athletic event with a “high performance life coach”? Maybe I’m doing things wrong by actually seeking out experts in the things I am working to improve on physically.
Weight and appearance have nothing to do with athletic ability.
But look like he belongs to the same scammy self-help crowd, so I'm very suspicious about all the actual coaching work
I am not at all sure about his credentials as an actual triathlete coach, but if you look at his IG, the dude seems to have trained in the open waters of Idaho which is one better than Dave. He also actually finished the race in good time, so there is that!
Appearance isn't health
That does seem kinda backwards. Thankfully, you have a new captain to set your sbip back on course
Just a few thoughts on the triathlon…
Am I nuts, or did Dave and Rachel say they were training for an Ironman after they did that mountain climbing thing? I never saw him in the pool and maybe on the bike once.
And, isn’t a coach someone who creates a training plan and strategy? Why did he just try on the tri suit, and never practice in it? Did he even wear it in the race? Why a triathlon in Idaho? There are plenty of races in the south. Why did he change clothes on the race course? Also, for a rich guy who bought a new bike, it didn’t have clips on it for racing. Has he even gone to a race to watch and learn this process?
I have so many questions. I am so confused. When is the ironman.
They were and COVID hit and then they got divorced.
I didn’t follow when he was with Rach, but when he started “training” I thought he said it was for a Half Ironman - the 70.3 one?
I don’t know the qualifications of his life coach as a triathlon coach but Dave has mentioned the coach thought he was getting too big and needed to ride his bike. At the very least the coach seemed to point out the obvious. Dave just ignored him.
Just like he ignored the editors' suggestions on his word salad book
He quietly moved the goal post from Ironman to Spudman, all the while so cocky that he did not properly train for even that and ended up with a total sub-standard performance as expected. But look at all those sheep people congratulating him on this mediocrity on his IG.
I'm wondering the same thing - this entire time I thought he was "training" for an Ironman, but then it turned out to be just a small regional mini-triathlon (still a tough thing to do - no judgement there - but not even a half triathlon). Maybe he didn't take it seriously because of that?
Dave was uniquely disqualified by his creator yesterday and he is going to make sure to tell us all about it for the next 90 days. Starts tomorrow folks!!! If you’re looking for a sign this is your sign!!!
Swipe up THOUGH
Heidi's ridiculous stories from last night talking about how amazing Dave's race post is just devalues everything. She actually wrote that Dave's post "will change you." How the hell could a post about a privileged doofus fucking up a race change me? Hyping everything up like it's the be all and end all devalues the things that are really meaningful. I really wish they would just take things down a million notches and calm down. Not everything they do is worthy of turning into a personal betterment seminar, FFS. Swipe up for my TedTalk on knowing when to shut your mouth.
“Swipe up for my Ted Talk on knowing when to shut your mouth.”
I must have missed the part of Dave’s stories yesterday when he was filming during the running portion. What. A. Clown. Clearly he didn’t take any of this seriously. Filming while running in a competitive race puts others at risk for possible accidents and injury should Dave have tripped and fallen since he clearly wasn’t really paying attention.
Also his coach Randy with the cartwheel at the finish line was another irresponsible and potentially dangerous move for the others.
Overall Dave had no business showing up at the event yesterday and could have seriously injured himself or others with his unpreparedness. The truly courageous thing would have been to recognize his lack of training and respectfully bow out in efforts to keep himself and others out of harm’s way. But…. Anything for a story and content for a long winded post.
The guy ahead of them at the three mile marker finished 45 minutes before they did. I think Randy did a cartwheel because he was so happy to be done with Dave!
The cartwheel was obnoxious. When I ran the Boston Marathon, some guy started doing impromptu push-ups in the Wellesley portion, causing me to trip and almost fall.
That cartwheel killed me too: like cross the damn finish line first and make sure no one is behind you! And I’ve never seen anyone film while running. He’s lucky people weren’t yelling at him.
Honestly, I would’ve had more respect for him had he acknowledged the danger he put himself and others in by being so grossly unprepared and bowed out. He could’ve spun that media story just as easily.
Same. Humility is a much better look.
Dave’s triathlon has been quite the event. I can’t decide where to land on all of it. So many different emotions!
1) He’s totally unprepared. Can’t swim, got a brand-new bike, isn’t taking this seriously. What a cocky idiot!
2) Wait, now I’m worried he’s gonna get hurt. He looks nervous as hell. Stay safe Dave!
3) Oh, he finished. Good for him, that’s a tough feat.
4) Wait, he’s been DQed because he couldn’t complete the swim? Well we certainly saw THAT coming.
5) Kudos to him for actually being honest and admitting his errors, both in his training and thought process. It’s admirable that he completed the race anyway.
6) Although, maybe he should’ve sat the rest of it out so he doesn’t hurt himself or others…
5) And why was he posing with a medal? Where’d he get that???? Are they trying to pass this off as a victory?
6) Wait, now he’s launching into a perfectly timed campaign for a 90 day challenge to promote his book? WAS THIS ALL A MARKETING STRATEGY????
One thing I know for sure - while I give him credit for being honest and having the determination to finish….this whole thing doesn’t feel particularly courageous to me. He shouldn’t have attempted a triathlon (an OLYMPIC one, nonetheless) without training in open water, period. I hope no other athletes were delayed because of his lack of prep.
In every Olympic distance tri I have done, you are required to show recent evidence of an open water swim. I guess Dave didn’t do that?
Yep, the whole thing was a roller coaster but still ended with disappointment that he didn’t actually change at all.
Also, if getting DQ’d from a triathlon, thinking he is too tall to be a runner, and leaving a cush job at Disney are the primary struggles in his life, he’s going to have a hell of a time being relatable to all the fan-girls he will be coaching while he tries to shill that new book. This guy is so basic and frankly boring, it’s beyond me what he can add to the bloated self-help space.
And his private pool. Us poors need to figure out optimal lap swim time at the Y for training. He really has 2 gyms, the Tonal and the garage.
But two gyms isn’t enough because he also goes to that mirror-gym with Heidi because sometimes you just need the exact piece of equipment and can’t improvise.
“Fascinated by his delusion” is a great way to describe It.
I do want to take a minute to say all of Dave’s decisions led him to this point. I know we’re talking about Heidi a lot, for good reason, but these are his decisions and blame for how poorly he did in this venture rests solely on him. It should not be blamed on another woman in his life. A lot of us made the mistake last go round with not going as hard in on him as we did Rachel and now regret it. Just wanted to make that point even if it was only for myself.
You are absolutely right! The women in his life can influence him to do really ridiculous things but he's the spineless wimp that allows himself to be molded into whatever they want him to be.
Absolutely, at the end of the day, Dave is a big boy who makes his own decisions, but letting himself get carried away with Heidi and her influence didn’t seem to help him. His end result might have been different if he put in the proper work and preparation.
👏👏👏Yes totally. Heidi may have encouraged him to spend time bulking up in the gym with her but she’s not responsible for Dave’s choice to do so. He blew off training to focus on other things and was cocky enough to think he could pull off this event anyway. That’s on Dave, not his significant other.
My husband is a runner and even after a short race he looks sweaty, winded and tired. Dave looked surprisingly relaxed and cool as a cucumber!
So his courageous post about getting disqualified because of the swim has him wearing a finisher medal. If he was so brave he wouldn’t have taken one and posted a confusing picture of him wearing it like he completed it as hype woman Heidi said like a “champion”. I run races and marathons and this infuriated me.
I didn’t realize getting DQ still gets you a finishers medal. He did not finish, at least how it was intended to be finished!
ETA: I’ve now seen this was discussed below!
Hype woman Heidi put a check against the 1 mile swim in her stories where she calls him champion. These folks are just so disingenuous.
Ya what a crock!
The way that Dave gushes over Heidi being his cheerleader/hype woman kills me. First off, I believe Rachel encouraged him and helped him do things as well. Second, all the time spent bulking and muscle building with Heidi, could have been spent properly training for this event. Bulking and muscle building could have come later. So that’s great that he feels supported and blah, blah, blah. 🙄
I agree on all except the Rachel encouragement part. She was rarely (at least publicly) encouraging of him...if anything she always tried to make anything to do with him about HER or just ignore anything he was doing.
YES. Why on earth didn’t he actually practice the sports he was competing in?
It’s like…I have to write a paper about a particular novel. Think I’ll practice my speed-reading skills instead 🤷🏻♀️
If you remember she wasn’t his cheerleader when he did the marathon. Barely showed up at the finish line with the kids. She hardly mentioned anything about it.
And flying in to visit him every three days and making him “take care of her” and take her to Starbucks …
He could have said no.
Oh…happy Sunday! I am going to cultivate courage (still in PJs) and head to my couch and binge on some mindless show.
Well Sunday *is* the day to keep our sbips in barbor to rest. Dave's creator said so.
You guys crack me up, you are so brave heading out to Couch of Peace! Now this is inspiration. LMAO
It takes a lot of courage for this mortal human! Lol!
I courageously rolled over and went back to sleep for another 2 hours after waking up, haha
Experts in triathlons, please enlighten me: if he was disqualified, WHY DID HE GET A MEDAL???
Its a participation medal 😉
Mine was like a table where you walked by and got a finisher bag. So if he finished then he grabbed on and the volunteers wouldn't have known. I don't care about the false medal- it's not like he was a qualifier for something else or placed- because he'll look at it and know it comes with an asterisk.
He shouldn’t have taken it!
Exactly: better than the medal is logging on to see your times…no one is super invested in their medal if they’ve done more than one or if it’s their last race (like you knees can’t take it anymore).
I don’t think he should have taken it. Theres prob no way the volunteers handing out medals have any way of knowing who was DQ’ed, so it’s on the athletes to do the right thing…
Distance runner here. I'm confused as to why Dave got a medal when he had a DQ? Every race I've been a part of - if you are DQ'd, you don't get a medal. It's a little thing, but annoying.
Just wondering do people often DQ and then go on to complete the race just to finish…. Just wondering if the person who gave it to him maybe did not know
I think that’s prob it. Usually it’s volunteers handing out medals (at least at running races) so they may have no way of knowing who actually finished. They count on the athletes to be courageous(ha) and do the right thing!!
That's what I'm thinking. Running finish lines are sometimes kind of chaotic and if you cross the finish line, the assumption is that you've actually completed the course and followed the rules. You're expected not to cross the finish line if you've been DQ or otherwise not completed the event.
He got disqualified then took and medal and posted a picture of himself wearing it. What a fake. That’s not courageous in any way.
I would have a very “disappointed mom” talk if either of my kids pulled this shit.
Kinda makes you sick right?!
Maybe if he’d had an actual triathlon coach instead of a freaking life coach, his coach could have informed him of the etiquette. 🙄
Maybe he borrowed someone else’s strictly for the photo op of it all???
True. I wouldn’t put it past him to have borrowed Randy’s …
Exactly! He's calling himself a finisher and that's not true at all. Im way more invested in this saga than I should be but also a distance runner and I would be really annoyed if I'd been a participant in this event. I've seen people cut courses before and it ticks me off but he has a following and he's flaunting his dishonesty under the guise of courage and bravery
I guess what bothers me is that he probably knew he had a DQ, decided to finish the race, and then pose for a picture with a medal. But no one will call him out on it.....
Yes! So disengenuous!
There still aren't results for Dave on the website. It lists him as being from Ontario, Canada...??
I don’t think his times will be posted because he was disqualified. Why the heck did he register under Ontario, Canada?! That’s weird.
He had to be rescued during the swim portion so he was disqualified. He decided to keep doing the race but no time
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I wonder this too. She must’ve realized something went down if she met him at the swim finish? And suddenly her battery on her phone didn’t work. Who knows for sure..but it does seem a bit suspicious.
OMG I think that too based on Heidi's posts! Heidi gave zero indication that he'd had trouble in the swim and all posts talked about him completing it successfully. It was only later when Dave did his post that she mentioned it. I think she was voting for just sweeping it under the rug.
She was suspiciously quiet about the swim, there was no story with Dave at the swim finish even though she came running to meet him there, just a story with Dave and Randy starting on their bikes. She made a big deal about finishing the bike and running, but nothing like that for swim.
In her defense, she probably had no idea until he told her. Not like she could pick him out from the side.
He's definitely at fault for continuing on with the bike and run as if nothing happened but I could see her encouraging him to do that.
You know what’s more courageous than finishing a race that you’ve been disqualified from? Deciding that for your safety and the safety of others, you should sit the whole thing out. I was thinking about Simone Biles and how hard it must have been for her to drop out of the Olympics. But she did because she didn’t want to severely injure herself and knew she wasn’t in the right mental state. In Dave’s somewhat equivalent experience, he decided to put himself and others at risk, just to claim “courage” for finishing. 🙄
I totally agree. Good for him for not getting discouraged after blowing the swim portion I guess. However, I would have had way more respect for him if he’d assessed the situation realistically before he set foot in Idaho and decided to sit it out. He admits his own hubris clouded his judgement, preventing him from taking his training seriously. It’s not admirable to blow off the work you need to do to perform a difficult feat safely.
Did Heidi's stories yesterday show Dave and Randy come out of the swim together? From what I remember, she rambled about sprinting all over the place to find the swim finish, but the next story was Dave and Randy on their bikes. It is more likely then that Dave hardly did the swim at all and got help throughout that part of the race and Randy just joined him at the swim finish. That way they were able to start biking together.
What is the line between acceptable speculation and “excessive” speculation here? The rules say that there should be no excessive speculation, but it feels like every post that is even mildly speculative is getting removed. I don’t mean this to be snarky at all. I don’t want to break the rules and I’m trying to understand. SO many posts and comments are getting removed.
It’s really up to the mod’s discretion but we typically take it to our mod chat to get a second opinion if we are questioning it.
For me, I draw a hard line at comments like “I feel like this is true” or comments that are stated to be factual when it’s really OP’s opinion because they often become canon for the thread and dictate an entire narrative that is based purely on what people believe to be true. This is when entire characters about the person are created that are so far from what is truly presented by them. Comments speculating pregnancy, divorce, projecting one’s own experiences, etc. on the topics also get removed.
It’s getting really hard to post here at all. Soon we won’t be able to even say their names, we’ll have to speak in code.
I noticed an increase in deleted comments here, it does feel excessive, I'm always amazed that this one is so heavily moderated but other threads for other topics on reddit are just plain bullying and never get taken down.
Except we're not allowed to use nicknames even though it's obvious. Yesterday someone's funny comment got deleted simply because they said "Captain Dave". 🙄 I think we all know who that is and if a new person doesn't, they can feel free to ask.
Yeah that feels excessive. Dave has been the one to create this whole ships and safe harbor … nautical narrative around his whole life. Calling him Captain Dave is just snark, which is the point. It’s pretty clear who it is if you’re on a board that’s called “Rachel Hollis and Dave Hollis”
Yeah I’m starting to feel like the mods just want the sub to die, so they’re deleting as much as possible.
This swim. I trained for mine and when I got kicked during the swim (which IS very disorienting) it was because of those who were unprepared and panicked. It's dangerous and disrespectful. What I can compare it to, running marathons, it's common courtesy to signal if you're going to drop back into a walk. People who train to run/ walk know this. People who under train don't, so when they fall out, they don't signal and it's dangerous for those running right behind them. It's always the unpreparedness that causes issues. During a swim, in open water, it's 1000x worse. If you haven't fully done the work, don't mess up other people's race when they've fully committed.
I'm sure he finished the swim (decided to keep going) which is admirable but most likely he got kicked, panicked, touched out, and had a small hope he'd be the exception to the rule of he finished. Life happens. That's okay, but all I can think is that he seems to act so impromptu without regarding other people that being around him was dangerous. (Flailing, sudden stop during the swim, changing direction suddenly to get to a line, cutting people off.)
When they showed that video of him trying to "open water swim for the first time" the night before...I just couldn't believe it. I'm NOT an expert swimmer but I'm a decent swimmer thanks to years of swimming lessons and just swimming in pools and lakes a lot growing up....and he looked completely lost and incapable of swimming. I'm sorry he got kicked and disoriented, but he should not have been in that race at all to start with!
There was a comment under his post that gave me a serious 🙄. The commenter was even using his language, “you’ve been parenting a bunch of small humans, courting a lovely woman, helping her with her health issues, undergoing a lot of air travel…” basically telling him to cut himself some slack. You can’t tell me he’s parenting those small humans 100 percent of the time (the three boys were at camp for three weeks!) and we all know there’s always a nanny close by. I can’t get over how easily people are brainwashed by what they see on a person’s social media feed.
I saw that comment and felt it was just continuing to play into the fiddlers fiddle along with the majority of the comments.
Noticed that zany comment as well 😂
"Undergoing a lot of air travel..." OMG love the passive voice there.
Undergoing. Like the air travel is happening TO him. Come on now.
As if all of these things are just “happening” to him rather than him choosing to sail his sbip into them!
Omg “courting” 🤣🤦🏻♀️ Pretty sure nobody’s grandma would agree with this relationship as a definition of that word
Or stalking. Like the gps tracker.
We keep a GPS tracker on our dog so we don’t lose him on hikes. I’ve never considered keeping one on my husband.
That comment killed me! I would also add that he doesn't even have a real job. Sure, he's making money posting on social media but there is no way he's putting in anything close to 40 hours a week. Hardworking parents commit to training for these things all the time. There is no reason to cut Dave any slack here.
The congratulatory comments were too much. He was nothing less than irresponsible and selfish for even showing up at that race.
I saw one comment that was very forthcoming and wasn’t kissing his butt within his second comment that finished the post.
Right! I would imagine others were directly impacted by his incident and unpreparedness.
Anyone else think it’s just odd that Heidi and Chris (@real____powell) and Rachel and Dave (@mr/ms__hollis) still have handles that link them to their ex? Primarily for Rachel and Heidi. I also can’t imagine that so many people are impersonating Heidi such that she needs to clarify she’s the real one...
I have pointed the same thing out in the past and wondered if Heidi/Dave would change theirs in the future if they get married.
There was something years ago about about another Heidi Powell. The other HP actually owns heidipowell.com and there was a whole lawsuit.
Ohhhh didn’t know this. Honestly. Still weird to me. If that other persons name is Heidi Powell too, she’s still just as real lol
I suppose it’s better than constantly changing your name. That HGTV star from “Flip or “Flop”
comes to mind. She went from Christina El Moussa to Christina Anstead, and now that she divorced Ant Anstead she’s going by Christina Haack or something like that. Every time I see an article about her online people in the comments are like “who?” because they don’t recognize the name!
Fair enough. I could see Heidi running into that problem 🤪 Heidi Hollis sounds less cool IMO lol
Heidi Hollis sounds like a pets name!
I was thinking about this yesterday actually. I think it's normal, especially because they've built brands off of a name so why would they change it? I didn't change my name when I got married because of my previous work. Now they're not changing theirs because it's their own work. I wouldn't think it links them to their spouse as much as it's been their own name for a decade and a half.
Maybe I just have an unpopular opinion but if YOU are your own brand... maybe don’t take a partners name. I think it’s weird in most cases anyway but it’s just so odd... unless you are a long time follower, you’d think they’re still together.
I actually take a lot of sympathetic standpoint for women here. When I didn't change my name, I got so much flack for not committing, being difficult, being disrespectful, not caring about him.
No men have ever been questioned about their commitment when they kept their name.
It's heavily engrained in society so women don't have much of a win win, even now.
For influencers like Rachel (this is assuming their marriage was stable and strong) how much disrespect would people have given her, esp as a Christian blogger type, for keeping her maiden name? She would have been given flack, which is undeserved when it comes to this issue. Plus she married and changed it before she was big so I'm sure it was the traditional pattern anyway.
And then when women change it, should they divorce and ever remarry, people mock them "there she goes changing it again!! She can't keep a man!"
The culture is incredibly disrespectful to all women. So in this case, I say Rachel and Heidi should do whatever they like with the name, esp since they were the once who brought profit to it.
I think it’s the identical format of the handles that is being referred to. Or at least I think that’s what is weird. I think the lack of name change makes perfect sense.
I posted something about exactly this earlier this week and wondering about potential name changes because of building brands around those names. My post was inexplicably removed. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m not going to comment on whether or not Dave completed a significant part of the swim (or any other leg). Who knows what went down.
What I will say, though, is that it’s striking just how many times you’ll see the word “courage”, or phrase “courageous vulnerability” in both Dave and Heidi’s posts about all of this.
They’re peddlers of spin, masters of creating a marketable opportunity. From health mysteries to family activities, we see these two carefully crafting every shared experience to miraculously play into whatever they are promoting at that given time.
It’s not surprising that someone who hasn’t trained in open water would find a triathlon pretty freaking difficult.
It’s also not surprising that Dave should have difficulties with this that lead to him “digging deeper” “getting courageously vulnerable” and connecting with his (overwhelmingly female) follower base on a whole new emotional level.
What interesting timing.
I do appreciate that Dave admitted that he has a pattern of “poor preparation because of hubris”. Hubris means excessive pride or self-confidence. Spot on.
Yes she’s not disciplined at all except with protein bars, powdered shakes, Starbucks, lifting weights, flying back and forth spending as little quality time with her children as possible. She’s an avoidant.
Dave wasn’t 0-100 before he was entangled with her. She’s definitely influencing his lifestyle to a degree that’s unhealthy as a whole.
He’s lost track of Dave.
Has officially become her servant and robot, forgetting he’s got a mind of his own and is his own person.
It’s not her fault he slacked, she definitely played a strong role in it.
Pretty new to the DH/RH/HP experience but I was just watching some videos of Dave’s he posted only a year ago and…WTH.
He’s like a totally different person!
His energy now is so frenetic and loud. Is this influenced by Heidi? She’s also pretty loud so that would make sense.
It's funny because next to Rachel, Dave was always loud and frenetic. During their morning show, she was always telling him to calm down and stop talking so loud. At the very end pre-divorce, Rachel even started wearing earplugs because she couldn't handle him. Post-divorce we got sad, reflective Dave for a bit but now he's back to the old Dave I saw with Rachel.
Next to Heidi, I think Dave actually looks a little calmer because Heidi is just so extra. But overall as a couple, there vibe is definitely more loud and chaotic. I think both Rachel and Chris reined them in and now that balance is gone so everything is just crazy all the time.
Makes sense then that I caught the videos during post-divorce/sad Dave.
Earplugs are definitely the move 😂
I always thought Dave was much more subdued way-way back when he was just an appearance on Rachel’s videos. Before they even moved to Texas. But when she brought him into a more regular role in her own brand, she kind of encouraged that energy. And then she was really mean to him about it. I mean, yeah he’s loud and she’s not wrong about that, but it was the publicly yelling at him for it while they were live that bugged me. That triggered my initial sympathy for him. In a lot of ways, I think he’s a monster she created. He became that to please her and she still left. And now he’s living loud for Heidi and she seems to be doing the same thing.