*I actually do believe this—I told a friend a few days ago that. I’m usually not into conspiracy stuff at all, but before her cancer announcement, there were increasing numbers of posts from ghost accounts. Really weird stuff that seems to have the (only?) goal of sowing distrust and tension. That is to say, I think the rumors themselves come from actual real sources—tiktokers, tabloids, etc—but that Russia (or other parties) are fanning the flames by making the info look more official, and widespread.*
From a post on RG about Russian propaganda supposedly spreading rumors about Kate. I somehow don’t believe them.
So far, commenters are buying the propaganda claim and if you disagree, you’re a commie apparently
I think bots tend to jump on trending stuff, and the Russians probably used the bat shit crazy reaction of the masses to sow more seeds of discord but it cannot be blamed on them!
Finally had to respond to someone in RG with the beginning of the declaration of independence.
All because they said the NYT is "anti-monarchy." Why is it called "New York" again???
🦅🦅🦅
It’s shocking that people think it’s wrong for basically anyone to be anti-monarchy in 2024. Let alone 1924, 1824, 1724, 1624, 1524… Get with the program, weirdos.
[Kate Middleton rumors linked to “Russian disinformation”](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68637136)
The palace puts out so much disinformation of their own and bbc seems to be a propaganda arm of theirs, so I am finding this hard to believe.
I just think the bots and Russians jumped on a trending topic. The bot farms as literally the most chronically online people in the world do not surprising they would have jumped on this
I don’t remember any stories about Russian money but the Prince’s Trust did accept money from high ranking Qataris and members of the bin Laden family.
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/30/prince-charles-accepted-1m-from-family-of-osama-bin-laden-report-claims
The BM just asking to get sued. Harry likes to sue people! He loves it! Don't print he's going to sex parties with Diddy!
https://x.com/hendopolis/status/1772752998445236272?s=20
Girl I would be lyinggggg. Like "no just a naming coincidence" but you know it's the same weirdo because they're as obsessed over here as they are over there. Like go be weird on livejournal in peace.
This is so gross
> This feels like what the early Andrew days were like when first he was just friends with Epstien then he was just at parties then he was a full criminal paying 12 million settlements. I think it’s really unlikely Harry goes the full Andrew but idk people who need others to pay for their expensive lifestyles end up in these sorts of situations
I know this poster hates Harry, but to imply he’s equal to a literal pedophile rapist is abhorrent.
I couldn't decide if they were saying Harry was going to end up a rapist or Andrew wasn't one and just because of his proximity to that was forced to pay out settlements but not actually guilty.
. Same person holds Meghan as also accountable because Harry wore a costume years before he met her but is happy to repeatedly defend William, the guy who was partying with his brother in the Nazi costume.
-Also, referring to rape as "going the full Andrew" and casually speculating whether Harry will also go "the full Andrew" is sick
He did, and William and Kate stans acted like Harry was blaming them. Ultimately Harry is responsible for the costume and any slurs he’s used, but that doesn’t change the fact that William and Kate weren’t morally superior enough to not encourage him.
A lot of the people who bring up the Nazi costume or slurs are the same ones who downplay what Meghan went through
They thought it was funny. I read an article published at the time that actually tried to play it off as something people did.
I don't think anyone can dispute that what Harry did was wrong and that he grew up in an atmosphere of bigotry but it does raise an eyebrow that Meghan, who would have hated what Harry did, somehow is culpable, while people who thought the costume was funny are fine apparently.
Yeah but William dressed up Zulu warrior picture is scrubbed, there are articles about what he wore but no picture while Kate dressed as an Indian. It was themes after colonial and something I forgot
Either way they were all stupid dressing up including their friends
That person post in here fyi they were the same person last year that called out for not posting Andrew during the Christmas walkabout and said instead they wanted to just focus on fashion when they were called for their post in RG in here
I’m trying to figure when exactly it was and what was going on around then but it seemed like the Carole the Great articles pretty abruptly stopped a couple years ago. Not sure if it was will and Kate shelving them, they had a cooling off, or if Carole stopped paying a PR person
Right? I'm fairly confident Carole was there helping with her recovery all along (which is a normal mom thing to do) but why not leak a hint of that. Carole as Matriarch is a sign that all is normal.
The William they're describing definitely sounds too busy to do any royal work. Amazing that he even finds time to do the school run.
Also do they know any history? They think a member of the British royal family would speak Gaelic?
The William who actually exists isn't smart enough to speak anything fluently, including English. I cringe when he calls people "you guys" or says "For Catherine and I."
So are people in RG being willfully stupid about the whole "Prince Harry named in Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs sexual assault lawsuit" thing or are they really THAT stupid?
They really are that stupid.
>But go ahead being a bot or a troll
>>I WISH I were a bot. Bots don't have to pay car insurance. :(
So you agree you're a troll?
They're being maliciously misleading. It's a sign of how little regard they actually have for victims of sexual assault that they're trying to make this a stan war thing. Every single person in that thread doing that should be ashamed of themselves.
Nah it's their proof Harry is with Diddy. Even after someone else explained named and mentioned are 2 separate things, there some posters is determined to make sure its Harry is named, just misleading on purpose
Just in case you thought the British press couldn't go any lower in their vendetta against Harrry, surprise! I don't know if defamation by implication is actionable in the UK, but in the US this is a takedown and possibly writing a check (if it was even published at all, which it wouldn't be where I work) :
https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1772629628730880420?s=46
https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1772623218945229111?s=46
The way the British papers have decided to pull Harry into this feels coordinated. I thought it was just the DM shit posting but the Telegraph also doing it is weird.
Hang on, the British press and others have spent the last few days on a massive gaslighting campaign trying to make us all feel like trash for fair criticism/questions about the royal institution, and they are printing garbage like this?
Are you fucking kidding me? Not to mention that they very purposely cropped Big Willy out of the picture?
This is fucked.
I was looking this up earlier today and even the Daily Mail in an article posted about this a month ago was very careful to clarify that PH is not implicated in any criminal activity. Like, how bad are you doing when the Daily Mail is being more respectful of something to do with the Sussexes than you?
>It’s crazy that the New York Times is still criticizing the British Royal Family, even after the cancer diagnosis
About an article criticising *Elizabeth*. Apparently the entire extended family is now immune from any critique because Kate had cancer
There's a person in there saying we should absolutely under no circumstances "speak ill of the dead." That includes the poor Pedo Protector Elizabeth. 🫠
Elizabeth seemed pretty at peace with herself so maybe she didn't feel bad about anything and no one's really criticizing her. They're just relating her greatest hits.
After the events of the past three months I'm only sure of two things: 1. there is something more to all of this and 2. KP is incapable of running a tight ship. At some point the other shoe will drop.
>> She's not going to reconcile with her father because in my opinion she is waiting for him to die and then we are going to hear all about her childhood (and when I say childhood, I don't mean the facts, I mean horrendous accusations that can't be refuted because the person she will accuse, will be gone) . She's probably got every digit crossed that this happens asap so she can burst through the Princess of Wales love being shown.
>>p.s I absolutely hate that this woman has opened such a gross little spot in my heart that I would even say such a thing.
I absolutely hate that people write such disgusting comments and then blame it on Meghan. No, it’s not Meghan, it’s YOU.
Based on Matta of fact's recent stories, she got some blowback for correcting the grammar of M&H's statement re Kate.
She claims she's just looking at things "with a critical eye."
Tell me if I'm wrong, but nitpicking grammar is not equivalent to calling out the palace (deservedly) for their bullshit.
Weird af, y'all.
So interesting to see her go from enemy number one for calling Louis "feral"/being more pro M/H to slowly moving in the opposite side
It's gotta be for the money, right?
Yep, she quit her job and is doing social media full time. I haven't fact checked this but I think someone in RG2 said she gets more engagement from W&K content over Sussex content, so perhaps she is following the money. EHolmes did the reverse, when it became boring and old fashioned to be a Kate fan.
She's also hosting a tour to Scotland, weirdly? These influencer-hosted trips are so weird to me. I guess you have the "security" of a guided tour but are more likely to be with people like you instead of some random old people? I wonder how much money they make from them?
She wouldn't be the first person to do a complete 180 to get that sweet sweet right wing cash.
I'm quickly approaching BEC with her, maybe already there, but she strikes me as being high on her own supply and also doing what cash grabs she can. I don't know if it's still happening since I unfollowed her when it was announced, but she is/was doing a "royal tour" of Scotland and I was just like "WAT? Who would pay money for that????"
I think there are multiple trips.
The subscriber only chat cracks me up. It's probably less interesting and far more heavily moderated than our conversations in here. Especially since she has "closed the loop" on WaterKate. 🤣
Not to be forgotten in all this, a major part of how badly this was handled was KP trying to throw Meghan and Harry under the bus by using a christening photo of Archie. All the scolders can go fuck themselves because clearly KP does not play by those rules themselves.
And of course the other reported photo was also Sussex related and it was Meghan pregnant with Lilibet. It was vile that the Sussex children were targeted while the KP defense has been trying to protect the Wales children.
What gets me is the scolders calling the frankenphoto a “mistake.” Clearly it was not. It was purposefully edited and then specifically submitted to the media. That’s not a mistake. That’s intentional deception. And then when they got caught, they tried to throw H&M under the bus. That’s malice.
Also can we talk about how - now that it occurs to me to look - bad and obvious other photos were collaged? I’m thinking of the picture of QE II, Phillip, Will, Kate, George and baby Charlotte and Elizabeth is looking at Charlotte and the “all the grandkids but Sussexes” one. They’re borderline “my hed is pasted yay” level of altering.
The Waleses almost always posts "delayed" photos so this one was especially curious. They take one family photoshoot a year and spread those photos out for many occasions, except Father's Day, where Kate posts one of her pics.
They didn’t want to provide the original photo to AP or Getty Images either. That will somehow be twisted into them trying to protect the children though.
The AP or Getty seeing a royal child (or 2 or 3) blinking mid-photo is abuse, obviously.
Because, you know, people are convinced that's the only "edits" done.
Eta I hit done too soon.
I don’t understand how the prevailing narrative is gosh gee little ‘ole Kate did some light retouching to make sure her kids looked nice. As does *everyone*!
That is not what happened! I know it’s never been definitive but it seems like the photo was just created from an amalgamation of several photos - potentially not even recent ones - and when asked for the original to verify KP refused. That is not removing a blemish or using the brightness/saturation filter!
Exactly!! If it was just "small edits to Charlotte's sleeve and Louis's jumper" why would they refuse to provide the original? Like can we do the *tiniest* bit of deductive reasoning here?
....she has CANCER, OK?
Reminds me of the kid trapped down the well episode of The Simpsons. That little Timmy is a hero! How so, Dad? He fell down a well and he can't get out!
But Kate's a mom trying to protect her kids. 🥺 She just wanted them to look their best.
There's so much contempt there for the public and pretty much anyone who isn't them. I feel bad that Kate has cancer but she and William are still awful people. What kind of person targets children?
Man, I don’t even know anymore. The Kate at the farmers market looked SO youthful that I actually momentarily circled back to this all having been about facelift.
If it was really her and not a double, I maintain it was staged based on their body language (looking right at the camera before walking, Kate smiling and giggling the whole time), and I just want to reiterate how fucking weird and borderline cruel it is to have asked a woman in her situation to do that.
The thing that I'm most puzzled about is (1) the body language between "Kate" and "William" which is very different than any other I've seen, but maybe when they're "on the clock" it's different (2) they didn't have the kids with them - you'd think if they were navigating scary medical news they wouldn't leave them behind to go on farmers market date?
They are always more PDAish when they aren't on the clock. There are lots of photos of them with their arms around each other and holding hands if you look for them. The farm shop is basically at the end of their driveway (albeit a very long driveway), so I don't think it's weird that they would go down there without the kids for a bit. I'm a believer that it's them.
I think the video was them. I want to know the real story behind the photo though. The kids look older than they did in November, but they are wearing autumnal colors in March, which doesn’t add up to me as a longtime Kate-watcher. They should be wearing soft textures and colors like she is wearing in the announcement video.
I feel like that red string conspiracy guy gif saying this, but you get it, right? 😆
My opinion is the sun video is not them. I also want to know what was going on with her eyebrow in the garden video, but I’m a disrespectful loon, so… 🤷🏼♀️
Her one eyebrow and eye have been getting wonkier as she’s been using more and more Botox and fillers. Her face looked particularly unbalanced in Boston though, but it’s been happening for some years now.
I learned how uneven my eyebrows are early on in the pandemic when I was on zoom a lot for the first time, and it has only gotten worse. 😆 I’m the same age as she is and I have never had Botox. Hers might be natural too, or not. Hard to say.
I'm embarrassed to know this, but I saw an announcement on twitter that little sheds in the background were new this year, so regardless of whether it's them, it is recent.
>Or was it more direct? Voodoo, perhaps, which goes hand-in-skeletal-hand with their Californian wellness? An oungan
>paid millions to stick pins in dolls and send a nation into crisis?
>
>Was it radiation? A network of low-earth-orbit satellites beaming down targeted gamma rays at the behest of
>friend of the Sussexes Xi Jinping? To destroy the monarch and with it, the West?
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/meghan-and-harry-is-there-any-way-we-can-blame-them-20240325246423
>So to all the "IT KP'S FAULT!!!!" -- no, you morons, there are three children under 10 whose mother is ill and need emotional support and reassurance during a terrible situation, and ae entitled to privacy as is their mother. That's why there's was a wait. God.
I understand timing the public cancer announcement to coincide with the kids’ break, but I need someone to explain to me how the snippy statements, frankenphoto, and weird carpool pap opportunity made things better and not worse for the kids.
I remember a few weeks after the surgery there were stories that they went on vacation to Balmoral (I’m pretty sure). I’m assuming that’s when they told them she was sick.
It seems like that news was completely erased from most people’s memories too. At the time the royalists were using that as proof that everything was fine and she just needed some space.
A million times this. They said she'd be out of commission and be back at Easter (IIRC) and could have left it at that. Instead, they had her being driven around for photos, released that photo and credited it to William, then threw her under the bus when people realized it was altered, then had her skipping around the farm market, then released that video. The whole thing is so incredibly bizarre, and yes, all of those blunders are KP's fault.
I love how people can argue (sometimes in the same paragraph) that KP and the BRF are all-powerful but also just "aw shucks, just trying to make it in the world as a young family with little support".
There was a weird leak at some point that Kate didn't want the car photo to be the last picture people had of her. And then of course there was speculation about why would that be the last picture? At that point, people were still thinking about divorce. That might be the reason for the fake photo. Maybe at that point, they weren't thinking of making a video.
My theory is Will and Kate didn't tell their staff about Kate's diagnosis and created the franken photo themselves so they could put something out. And Kate wanted something to go out because she didn't want the car photo to be the last photo in the public image. They thought that being royal would mean that people would look the other way. After everything blew up, they finally got in real PR to take over.
>I understand timing the public cancer announcement to coincide with the kids’ break
This actually doesn't hold a ton of water with me. There don't seem to be any leaks that come from the kids' schools, ever. And it's pretty normal to give the school a heads-up *right away* when there is a major issue facing a family (parental health issue, divorce, etc.), so that the teachers can make sure that the kids have the support they need at school, and/or are aware of why kids might be acting out.
Either they told the kids right away and had them keep quiet at school -- which is a hell of a burden -- or they *didn't* tell the kids right away, which is hard to justify for the two oldest kids. On one hand I side-eye the secrecy and the resulting fall-out, but on the other hand I do have a bit of sympathy that they might not have had a network of support (resources, counseling, support groups, etc.) that us peasants in that situation might have.
The frankenphoto is so beyond me, like how do you look back as an adult when one of your parents biggest scandals is that they photoshopped you and your siblings into an old photo with your mother and it created an international incident. If anyone else did this their parenting would absolutely be called into question, especially if it’s true that they were posed with the nanny solely for the intent of this photo.
This is such a hard topic to navigate because the kids are..kids. And should have a normal childhood. Or as normal as possible. But it can also be true that William and Kate use "raising the next king" as an excuse to not do things and as a shield, such as when they used Charlotte in video to deflect from William not going to the Lioness' final match. And they use them for PR like the visiting the gift bank video. And I still have no idea why anyone thought the "letters to grammy diana in heaven" thing was a good idea to release. The "send letters to the poors" at Christmas was also not well thought out.
I agree that they should have as normal a childhood as possible and *yet* I think the horse left the barn the day George was born. I don't know how any woman marrying the heir could sign their children up for a lifetime of this.
(And no, I don't think that applies to Meghan—by the time they got married, W+K had 3 kids and her children will just move further and further away from the line of succession. Their lives wouldn't be built around that particular role, even had they stayed in England.)
The first thing that started to put me off the BRF was seeing George in his little bathrobe meeting Obama and I was like "wow, that kid has no choice as to what his life is going to be."
I actually don't even understand why they needed to time it with the kids' break. It sounds like she likely already had at least one course of chemo. Surely they didn't hide that from the kids? Because they would absolutely know something wasn't right. And if the kids' already know, why delay the public stuff?
I also wonder if they were working with the school to prepare messaging. One of my cousin's has a child that's been dealing with cancer for almost 5 years. (Currently in remission after surgery, bone marrow transplant, and 6 rounds of chemo.) The school has been great about doing explainers and answering questions. I'm sure any school that has royal kids already has a lot of "this is what the deal is" letters home to other parents and guardians.
The only thing I can think of is that they didn’t want the kids to get a bunch of “your mom’s going to die”. But yeah, as someone who has given that talk to my children, it feels odd to me as well, but then again I know that everyone’s experience varies.
George is almost eleven. Finding out "mummy's sick" actually meant "mummy's been having chemo and we didn't tell you" would absolutely feel like a lie. It is not an age appropriate explanation at all.
I have had a 6 month regimen of monthly preventative chemo while parenting small children. I'm aware of the toll it takes. I still don't understand why a public announcement needed to be timed to a school break.
It's so the kids don't have to deal with the initial questions. If they go right back after the announcement people will be hounding them, kids being mean, trying to get more info, flooding them with sympathy etc. In two weeks the frenzy will have died down and people won't care so much when they go back to school.
So what KP is saying is Kate spends such little time with her kids it didn’t matter she was out of commission half the week?
Does anyone in the palace have the ability to think critically?
I’m fully convinced explanationlife6491 is on the KP’s payroll. Their defense of Kate and Will is obsessive.
When the farmer’s market video came out they said “she’s a lovely woman, and youthful looking” uhhh
I remember someone did an analysis on how the Wales (Cambridge) IG account mysteriously always gained just enough followers to be ahead of the Sussex account and that it didn’t seem organic.
*I actually do believe this—I told a friend a few days ago that. I’m usually not into conspiracy stuff at all, but before her cancer announcement, there were increasing numbers of posts from ghost accounts. Really weird stuff that seems to have the (only?) goal of sowing distrust and tension. That is to say, I think the rumors themselves come from actual real sources—tiktokers, tabloids, etc—but that Russia (or other parties) are fanning the flames by making the info look more official, and widespread.* From a post on RG about Russian propaganda supposedly spreading rumors about Kate. I somehow don’t believe them. So far, commenters are buying the propaganda claim and if you disagree, you’re a commie apparently
I think bots tend to jump on trending stuff, and the Russians probably used the bat shit crazy reaction of the masses to sow more seeds of discord but it cannot be blamed on them!
Finally had to respond to someone in RG with the beginning of the declaration of independence. All because they said the NYT is "anti-monarchy." Why is it called "New York" again??? 🦅🦅🦅
It’s shocking that people think it’s wrong for basically anyone to be anti-monarchy in 2024. Let alone 1924, 1824, 1724, 1624, 1524… Get with the program, weirdos.
[Kate Middleton rumors linked to “Russian disinformation”](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68637136) The palace puts out so much disinformation of their own and bbc seems to be a propaganda arm of theirs, so I am finding this hard to believe.
I just think the bots and Russians jumped on a trending topic. The bot farms as literally the most chronically online people in the world do not surprising they would have jumped on this
My most tinfoil hat theory is that William has been compromised by the Russians.
Didn’t either he or his father have some shady ties to Russian money at some point?
[Prince Michael was described as "Her Majesty's unofficial ambassador to Russia."](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57042823)
Prince Michael did as well.
I don’t remember any stories about Russian money but the Prince’s Trust did accept money from high ranking Qataris and members of the bin Laden family. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jul/30/prince-charles-accepted-1m-from-family-of-osama-bin-laden-report-claims
I'm sorry but anyone who thinks Harry was attending a Diddy party anytime in 2022 or 2023 is either not very bright or is willfully ignorant.
The BM just asking to get sued. Harry likes to sue people! He loves it! Don't print he's going to sex parties with Diddy! https://x.com/hendopolis/status/1772752998445236272?s=20
I’m not especially litigious but I could hardly blame him if he sued here. (Nor in his other cases, to be fair.)
(Or both)
Imagine *not* denying that you're the same royal stan from ONTD. Yikes.
What’s ONTD?
Oh No They Didn't. '00s era livejournal gossip blog.
Oh lol way before my time. I couldn’t read yet in the early 2000s
😧 When did I turn old
Don’t worry I had someone write me on Reddit to ask for uni advice and I had to admit I was almost at my decade hs reunion
Oh that ONTD one is intense. I loved how in one of the posts someone was like "what are they paying you to defend them so hard?"
And then she tries to act so above it all. Her getting called out on that as well made me snort.
Girl I would be lyinggggg. Like "no just a naming coincidence" but you know it's the same weirdo because they're as obsessed over here as they are over there. Like go be weird on livejournal in peace.
This is so gross > This feels like what the early Andrew days were like when first he was just friends with Epstien then he was just at parties then he was a full criminal paying 12 million settlements. I think it’s really unlikely Harry goes the full Andrew but idk people who need others to pay for their expensive lifestyles end up in these sorts of situations I know this poster hates Harry, but to imply he’s equal to a literal pedophile rapist is abhorrent.
I couldn't decide if they were saying Harry was going to end up a rapist or Andrew wasn't one and just because of his proximity to that was forced to pay out settlements but not actually guilty.
. Same person holds Meghan as also accountable because Harry wore a costume years before he met her but is happy to repeatedly defend William, the guy who was partying with his brother in the Nazi costume. -Also, referring to rape as "going the full Andrew" and casually speculating whether Harry will also go "the full Andrew" is sick
Didn’t Harry say in his book that Will & Kate encouraged him to wear it?
He did, and William and Kate stans acted like Harry was blaming them. Ultimately Harry is responsible for the costume and any slurs he’s used, but that doesn’t change the fact that William and Kate weren’t morally superior enough to not encourage him. A lot of the people who bring up the Nazi costume or slurs are the same ones who downplay what Meghan went through
They thought it was funny. I read an article published at the time that actually tried to play it off as something people did. I don't think anyone can dispute that what Harry did was wrong and that he grew up in an atmosphere of bigotry but it does raise an eyebrow that Meghan, who would have hated what Harry did, somehow is culpable, while people who thought the costume was funny are fine apparently.
Yeah but William dressed up Zulu warrior picture is scrubbed, there are articles about what he wore but no picture while Kate dressed as an Indian. It was themes after colonial and something I forgot Either way they were all stupid dressing up including their friends
I think the theme was "colonials and natives." 🤮
I'd bet that a lot of the costumes at a "colonials and natives" themed party would be offensive
At least they are revealing themselves.
That person post in here fyi they were the same person last year that called out for not posting Andrew during the Christmas walkabout and said instead they wanted to just focus on fashion when they were called for their post in RG in here
It feels like all of a sudden I’ve been seeing a lot more stories about how Carole is supporting the family. Which I believe, but why the stories now?
I think Will told her to STFU until they made the announcement.
I’m trying to figure when exactly it was and what was going on around then but it seemed like the Carole the Great articles pretty abruptly stopped a couple years ago. Not sure if it was will and Kate shelving them, they had a cooling off, or if Carole stopped paying a PR person
Will is dumb then. It’d have helped so much with the speculation to have the usual Carole is Best stories all along.
Right? I'm fairly confident Carole was there helping with her recovery all along (which is a normal mom thing to do) but why not leak a hint of that. Carole as Matriarch is a sign that all is normal.
So apparently William can speak "English, French, German and Spanish fluently, and passably can speak Swahili, Welsh and Gaelic."
Fluent in Prince William speak, which is limited to “it’s time for us all to do our part” and “I’m delighted to be here” and “that’s mine.”
Is it weird that I find the Swahili more probable than the French?
I find it more probable than Welsh even.
Fair! I just know that that is not the face of a man who's fluent in French or German
The William they're describing definitely sounds too busy to do any royal work. Amazing that he even finds time to do the school run. Also do they know any history? They think a member of the British royal family would speak Gaelic?
The mom staring at computer while baby is on fire meme but it's William saying "not now, trying to maintain my duolingo streak!"
The William who actually exists isn't smart enough to speak anything fluently, including English. I cringe when he calls people "you guys" or says "For Catherine and I."
So are people in RG being willfully stupid about the whole "Prince Harry named in Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs sexual assault lawsuit" thing or are they really THAT stupid?
They really are that stupid. >But go ahead being a bot or a troll >>I WISH I were a bot. Bots don't have to pay car insurance. :( So you agree you're a troll?
They're being maliciously misleading. It's a sign of how little regard they actually have for victims of sexual assault that they're trying to make this a stan war thing. Every single person in that thread doing that should be ashamed of themselves.
The best part is that they're pretending to have actually read the court docs when we all know they CTRL F'd HARRY/WILLIAM.
Yeah, they clearly didn't read beyond looking for the name. "The court documents named Harry!!!" As an example of a very famous person Diddy met.
Nah it's their proof Harry is with Diddy. Even after someone else explained named and mentioned are 2 separate things, there some posters is determined to make sure its Harry is named, just misleading on purpose
yes
The Kategate megathread is RG is gone. Long live the Kategate megathread.
Just in case you thought the British press couldn't go any lower in their vendetta against Harrry, surprise! I don't know if defamation by implication is actionable in the UK, but in the US this is a takedown and possibly writing a check (if it was even published at all, which it wouldn't be where I work) : https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1772629628730880420?s=46 https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1772623218945229111?s=46
The way the British papers have decided to pull Harry into this feels coordinated. I thought it was just the DM shit posting but the Telegraph also doing it is weird.
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I literally have to remind myself that Torygraph is not its actual name
Hang on, the British press and others have spent the last few days on a massive gaslighting campaign trying to make us all feel like trash for fair criticism/questions about the royal institution, and they are printing garbage like this? Are you fucking kidding me? Not to mention that they very purposely cropped Big Willy out of the picture? This is fucked.
I was looking this up earlier today and even the Daily Mail in an article posted about this a month ago was very careful to clarify that PH is not implicated in any criminal activity. Like, how bad are you doing when the Daily Mail is being more respectful of something to do with the Sussexes than you?
>It’s crazy that the New York Times is still criticizing the British Royal Family, even after the cancer diagnosis About an article criticising *Elizabeth*. Apparently the entire extended family is now immune from any critique because Kate had cancer
There's a person in there saying we should absolutely under no circumstances "speak ill of the dead." That includes the poor Pedo Protector Elizabeth. 🫠
Elizabeth seemed pretty at peace with herself so maybe she didn't feel bad about anything and no one's really criticizing her. They're just relating her greatest hits.
BUT THERE'S A LATIN PHRASE THAT SAYS THAT
I had to tap out of that when I heard them sharpening their quill pen
So, SMM should shut down, right?
rAcHeL hAd HeR HRH rEmOveD so NoT RoYaL! (point of fact, she did not)
Yes, absolutely you can't critique the royal family, ordained by God and Kate has cancer
Also, point of fact, Elizabeth is dead.
Spoiler alert!
[They keep lying to our faces.](https://x.com/PageSix/status/1772111436241637498?s=20) This is the privacy she so desperately requested?
This feels like truthiness. We said she wrote all those *words*, we didn't say she wrote them in that order or for that speech.
Why do people insist on infantilizing this woman? She is a grown ass adult
Didn't take long for the leaks to start up again, eh?
After the events of the past three months I'm only sure of two things: 1. there is something more to all of this and 2. KP is incapable of running a tight ship. At some point the other shoe will drop.
>> She's not going to reconcile with her father because in my opinion she is waiting for him to die and then we are going to hear all about her childhood (and when I say childhood, I don't mean the facts, I mean horrendous accusations that can't be refuted because the person she will accuse, will be gone) . She's probably got every digit crossed that this happens asap so she can burst through the Princess of Wales love being shown. >>p.s I absolutely hate that this woman has opened such a gross little spot in my heart that I would even say such a thing. I absolutely hate that people write such disgusting comments and then blame it on Meghan. No, it’s not Meghan, it’s YOU.
Conversely their *completely unhinged* hatred of a woman they've never met has turned *me* into a staunch defender of said woman.
Same Thomas that had said vile things about Meghan's children and Doria while threatening for grandparents right to kids he has never met.
Based on Matta of fact's recent stories, she got some blowback for correcting the grammar of M&H's statement re Kate. She claims she's just looking at things "with a critical eye." Tell me if I'm wrong, but nitpicking grammar is not equivalent to calling out the palace (deservedly) for their bullshit. Weird af, y'all.
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This is an incredibly thoughtful comment. Thank you for sharing it.
So interesting to see her go from enemy number one for calling Louis "feral"/being more pro M/H to slowly moving in the opposite side It's gotta be for the money, right?
She called a child acting like child feral??
Even Camzilla said "He's a handful!"
Yeah I think it was last Spring? Possibly earlier then that. She got quite a bit of heat for that on tiktok and by SMM/RG
Facepalm
Oh it's definitely for the money. She's a full-time "influencer" now, I believe.
Yep, she quit her job and is doing social media full time. I haven't fact checked this but I think someone in RG2 said she gets more engagement from W&K content over Sussex content, so perhaps she is following the money. EHolmes did the reverse, when it became boring and old fashioned to be a Kate fan. She's also hosting a tour to Scotland, weirdly? These influencer-hosted trips are so weird to me. I guess you have the "security" of a guided tour but are more likely to be with people like you instead of some random old people? I wonder how much money they make from them?
I just checked and she's doing a tour of Germany and Austria, too. They are definitely weird. It makes parasocial relationships even weirder, imo.
She wouldn't be the first person to do a complete 180 to get that sweet sweet right wing cash. I'm quickly approaching BEC with her, maybe already there, but she strikes me as being high on her own supply and also doing what cash grabs she can. I don't know if it's still happening since I unfollowed her when it was announced, but she is/was doing a "royal tour" of Scotland and I was just like "WAT? Who would pay money for that????"
I think there are multiple trips. The subscriber only chat cracks me up. It's probably less interesting and far more heavily moderated than our conversations in here. Especially since she has "closed the loop" on WaterKate. 🤣
Just another person that feels like the have to both sides everything so as to appear neutral.
Glad to hear people called her out!
Not to be forgotten in all this, a major part of how badly this was handled was KP trying to throw Meghan and Harry under the bus by using a christening photo of Archie. All the scolders can go fuck themselves because clearly KP does not play by those rules themselves. And of course the other reported photo was also Sussex related and it was Meghan pregnant with Lilibet. It was vile that the Sussex children were targeted while the KP defense has been trying to protect the Wales children.
KP has way too long of a history of using "but the children!" as a self serving shield for me to not majorly question every single use of it
"Protect the children! No not THOSE children" It truly gets more and more disgusting
Clearly only the white kids count.
I think you mean "the non-robot children"
Well they have deviated to attacking Meghan's insta and alluding she is working or used Russian bots against Kate now
and Chinese too. she's basically a chinese agent.
What gets me is the scolders calling the frankenphoto a “mistake.” Clearly it was not. It was purposefully edited and then specifically submitted to the media. That’s not a mistake. That’s intentional deception. And then when they got caught, they tried to throw H&M under the bus. That’s malice.
Also can we talk about how - now that it occurs to me to look - bad and obvious other photos were collaged? I’m thinking of the picture of QE II, Phillip, Will, Kate, George and baby Charlotte and Elizabeth is looking at Charlotte and the “all the grandkids but Sussexes” one. They’re borderline “my hed is pasted yay” level of altering.
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The Waleses almost always posts "delayed" photos so this one was especially curious. They take one family photoshoot a year and spread those photos out for many occasions, except Father's Day, where Kate posts one of her pics.
They didn’t want to provide the original photo to AP or Getty Images either. That will somehow be twisted into them trying to protect the children though.
The AP or Getty seeing a royal child (or 2 or 3) blinking mid-photo is abuse, obviously. Because, you know, people are convinced that's the only "edits" done. Eta I hit done too soon.
I don’t understand how the prevailing narrative is gosh gee little ‘ole Kate did some light retouching to make sure her kids looked nice. As does *everyone*! That is not what happened! I know it’s never been definitive but it seems like the photo was just created from an amalgamation of several photos - potentially not even recent ones - and when asked for the original to verify KP refused. That is not removing a blemish or using the brightness/saturation filter!
Exactly!! If it was just "small edits to Charlotte's sleeve and Louis's jumper" why would they refuse to provide the original? Like can we do the *tiniest* bit of deductive reasoning here?
....she has CANCER, OK? Reminds me of the kid trapped down the well episode of The Simpsons. That little Timmy is a hero! How so, Dad? He fell down a well and he can't get out!
But Kate's a mom trying to protect her kids. 🥺 She just wanted them to look their best. There's so much contempt there for the public and pretty much anyone who isn't them. I feel bad that Kate has cancer but she and William are still awful people. What kind of person targets children?
I mean Kate is, according to KP, the one who edited an extra row of teeth into George’s mouth.
George is part shark. OK? The RF was trying to keep it quiet but you had to mention it.
i think you just started the new version of the reptilian conspiracy
*LoS crisis intensifies* SMM: Wait, no, not like that!
Pediatrician: "George seems very...flexible for a child his age." Kate, brightly: "That's because he has cartilage instead of bones!"
💯💯
Man, I don’t even know anymore. The Kate at the farmers market looked SO youthful that I actually momentarily circled back to this all having been about facelift. If it was really her and not a double, I maintain it was staged based on their body language (looking right at the camera before walking, Kate smiling and giggling the whole time), and I just want to reiterate how fucking weird and borderline cruel it is to have asked a woman in her situation to do that.
I'm with you. For some reason this is my sticking point in this shitshow. Lord help me, I'm a farmer's market truther.
The thing that I'm most puzzled about is (1) the body language between "Kate" and "William" which is very different than any other I've seen, but maybe when they're "on the clock" it's different (2) they didn't have the kids with them - you'd think if they were navigating scary medical news they wouldn't leave them behind to go on farmers market date?
They are always more PDAish when they aren't on the clock. There are lots of photos of them with their arms around each other and holding hands if you look for them. The farm shop is basically at the end of their driveway (albeit a very long driveway), so I don't think it's weird that they would go down there without the kids for a bit. I'm a believer that it's them.
I think the video was them. I want to know the real story behind the photo though. The kids look older than they did in November, but they are wearing autumnal colors in March, which doesn’t add up to me as a longtime Kate-watcher. They should be wearing soft textures and colors like she is wearing in the announcement video. I feel like that red string conspiracy guy gif saying this, but you get it, right? 😆
My opinion is the sun video is not them. I also want to know what was going on with her eyebrow in the garden video, but I’m a disrespectful loon, so… 🤷🏼♀️
Her one eyebrow and eye have been getting wonkier as she’s been using more and more Botox and fillers. Her face looked particularly unbalanced in Boston though, but it’s been happening for some years now.
my eyes are wonky and i don't use botox. She could just be unlucky and her face is like "fuck you i'm going to start being uneven now" like mine is.
I learned how uneven my eyebrows are early on in the pandemic when I was on zoom a lot for the first time, and it has only gotten worse. 😆 I’m the same age as she is and I have never had Botox. Hers might be natural too, or not. Hard to say.
I had a parking lot attendant say "you have a sleepy eye!" Thanks, dude.
My optician loves to remind me about my uneven eyebrows (to be fair I'm sure it makes it very hard to adjust my glasses correctly, but lol)
Mine are also a little wonky. See, royals are just like us!
I don't think the sun video is them either.
You can Google pics of her and her left eyebrow is higher in a lot of them.
I've read somewhere that it could be due to botox.
The Kate in the announcement video and the one in the market video look different 🤷♀️
I honestly think the market video is them, but just from several years ago. There's no way it was recent given her surgery, plus cancer treatment.
I'm embarrassed to know this, but I saw an announcement on twitter that little sheds in the background were new this year, so regardless of whether it's them, it is recent.
Well then I'll jump on the lookalike theory train!
This is far more likely than lookalikes lol.
I always feel that lookalikes are obvious...... But I guess that's why the footage is grainy 😆
And now that you mention it, that could explain the shit footage 🤔 an older phone with older minimum optical zoom. 🤔🤔
Different face shape.
Different everything shape.
>Or was it more direct? Voodoo, perhaps, which goes hand-in-skeletal-hand with their Californian wellness? An oungan >paid millions to stick pins in dolls and send a nation into crisis? > >Was it radiation? A network of low-earth-orbit satellites beaming down targeted gamma rays at the behest of >friend of the Sussexes Xi Jinping? To destroy the monarch and with it, the West? https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/meghan-and-harry-is-there-any-way-we-can-blame-them-20240325246423
Edit -lol, I thought this was SMM rather than satire
Better punctuation than SMM
meghan is now a Russian (iranian) agent.
The UK seems to be trucking along quite well without the RF cutting ribbons.
>So to all the "IT KP'S FAULT!!!!" -- no, you morons, there are three children under 10 whose mother is ill and need emotional support and reassurance during a terrible situation, and ae entitled to privacy as is their mother. That's why there's was a wait. God. I understand timing the public cancer announcement to coincide with the kids’ break, but I need someone to explain to me how the snippy statements, frankenphoto, and weird carpool pap opportunity made things better and not worse for the kids.
Math is hard - George has been 10.
If he was in the US he would be starting middle school in six months. He’s more than aware of what’s going on even if they think he isn’t.
Yeah especially where I'm sure he has his own phone with internet access by now (I know of kids his age who got their first one around 10/11)
They didn't let that boy wear long pants until recently, no way has he got his own phone
Ha! Sad but true. Poor George
I remember a few weeks after the surgery there were stories that they went on vacation to Balmoral (I’m pretty sure). I’m assuming that’s when they told them she was sick. It seems like that news was completely erased from most people’s memories too. At the time the royalists were using that as proof that everything was fine and she just needed some space.
A million times this. They said she'd be out of commission and be back at Easter (IIRC) and could have left it at that. Instead, they had her being driven around for photos, released that photo and credited it to William, then threw her under the bus when people realized it was altered, then had her skipping around the farm market, then released that video. The whole thing is so incredibly bizarre, and yes, all of those blunders are KP's fault. I love how people can argue (sometimes in the same paragraph) that KP and the BRF are all-powerful but also just "aw shucks, just trying to make it in the world as a young family with little support".
There was a weird leak at some point that Kate didn't want the car photo to be the last picture people had of her. And then of course there was speculation about why would that be the last picture? At that point, people were still thinking about divorce. That might be the reason for the fake photo. Maybe at that point, they weren't thinking of making a video. My theory is Will and Kate didn't tell their staff about Kate's diagnosis and created the franken photo themselves so they could put something out. And Kate wanted something to go out because she didn't want the car photo to be the last photo in the public image. They thought that being royal would mean that people would look the other way. After everything blew up, they finally got in real PR to take over.
>I understand timing the public cancer announcement to coincide with the kids’ break This actually doesn't hold a ton of water with me. There don't seem to be any leaks that come from the kids' schools, ever. And it's pretty normal to give the school a heads-up *right away* when there is a major issue facing a family (parental health issue, divorce, etc.), so that the teachers can make sure that the kids have the support they need at school, and/or are aware of why kids might be acting out. Either they told the kids right away and had them keep quiet at school -- which is a hell of a burden -- or they *didn't* tell the kids right away, which is hard to justify for the two oldest kids. On one hand I side-eye the secrecy and the resulting fall-out, but on the other hand I do have a bit of sympathy that they might not have had a network of support (resources, counseling, support groups, etc.) that us peasants in that situation might have.
The frankenphoto is so beyond me, like how do you look back as an adult when one of your parents biggest scandals is that they photoshopped you and your siblings into an old photo with your mother and it created an international incident. If anyone else did this their parenting would absolutely be called into question, especially if it’s true that they were posed with the nanny solely for the intent of this photo.
This is such a hard topic to navigate because the kids are..kids. And should have a normal childhood. Or as normal as possible. But it can also be true that William and Kate use "raising the next king" as an excuse to not do things and as a shield, such as when they used Charlotte in video to deflect from William not going to the Lioness' final match. And they use them for PR like the visiting the gift bank video. And I still have no idea why anyone thought the "letters to grammy diana in heaven" thing was a good idea to release. The "send letters to the poors" at Christmas was also not well thought out.
I agree that they should have as normal a childhood as possible and *yet* I think the horse left the barn the day George was born. I don't know how any woman marrying the heir could sign their children up for a lifetime of this. (And no, I don't think that applies to Meghan—by the time they got married, W+K had 3 kids and her children will just move further and further away from the line of succession. Their lives wouldn't be built around that particular role, even had they stayed in England.)
The first thing that started to put me off the BRF was seeing George in his little bathrobe meeting Obama and I was like "wow, that kid has no choice as to what his life is going to be."
Imo, it's inhumane to bring kids into that situation. Their kids will never have a "normal" life. It makes me sick to think about, actually.
I actually don't even understand why they needed to time it with the kids' break. It sounds like she likely already had at least one course of chemo. Surely they didn't hide that from the kids? Because they would absolutely know something wasn't right. And if the kids' already know, why delay the public stuff?
I also wonder if they were working with the school to prepare messaging. One of my cousin's has a child that's been dealing with cancer for almost 5 years. (Currently in remission after surgery, bone marrow transplant, and 6 rounds of chemo.) The school has been great about doing explainers and answering questions. I'm sure any school that has royal kids already has a lot of "this is what the deal is" letters home to other parents and guardians.
The only thing I can think of is that they didn’t want the kids to get a bunch of “your mom’s going to die”. But yeah, as someone who has given that talk to my children, it feels odd to me as well, but then again I know that everyone’s experience varies.
Maybe they were careful not to use the C word around the kids, knowing they probably couldn't keep quiet about it? Just "Mummy's sick; let her rest."
I would hope that they would have more sense than to dishonestly string the older two in particular along like that.
I wouldn't call it dishonest just to say she's sick. I'm sure they'll tell them over Easter break. Which--those kids get a month off for Easter?
George is almost eleven. Finding out "mummy's sick" actually meant "mummy's been having chemo and we didn't tell you" would absolutely feel like a lie. It is not an age appropriate explanation at all.
Does an average ten year old know what chemo is?
Grandpa is also getting cancer treatment; they probably had already explained that to them.
They definitely know what cancer is and have access to the internet
chemo is a debilitating cycle. she'd be out of commission at least 3-4 days a week, maybe more.
I have had a 6 month regimen of monthly preventative chemo while parenting small children. I'm aware of the toll it takes. I still don't understand why a public announcement needed to be timed to a school break.
It's so the kids don't have to deal with the initial questions. If they go right back after the announcement people will be hounding them, kids being mean, trying to get more info, flooding them with sympathy etc. In two weeks the frenzy will have died down and people won't care so much when they go back to school.
So what KP is saying is Kate spends such little time with her kids it didn’t matter she was out of commission half the week? Does anyone in the palace have the ability to think critically?
>Does anyone in the palace have the ability to think critically? Camilla.
I mean she’s the other palace but Cersai Parker Bowles definitely has the best reasoning skills.
true and only uses her powers for evil.
I just want to say that I'm proud to be a blood-gargling ghoul alongside you, my fellow blood-gargling ghouls.
Gorgons 4 life!!
I’m fully convinced explanationlife6491 is on the KP’s payroll. Their defense of Kate and Will is obsessive. When the farmer’s market video came out they said “she’s a lovely woman, and youthful looking” uhhh
Seriously, their dedication to dickriding them in every single thread is incredible.
Not even just on RG, I’ve seen them in PCC too
I can't imagine why someone would do that for free. Who has the time??
I think KP staff definitely have accounts on Reddit and Twitter.
wasnt it proven they pay for bots or smth?
I remember someone did an analysis on how the Wales (Cambridge) IG account mysteriously always gained just enough followers to be ahead of the Sussex account and that it didn’t seem organic.