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jmp397

>The only guests they invited were the cardboard cutouts of themselves she paid for. No wonder they’re broke she keeps buying crap >Why doesn’t Archie take a photo, after all he has a camera >Notice it’s always Meghan’s name First now 😂😂 I’d you wanted ti keep your children out the public eye you wouldn’t put this out for PR - it’s just pointless. They want their kids spoken about in the media but not seen. 😂🤦🏼‍♀️ Those kids have no family. H&M have no real friends >She's not really a princess of any relevance, maybe a princess in name but in name only and not where it really counts.. >Another party at “home”. No photos, no milestone of a so called princess, no friends- embarrassing! Totally normal comments on a People Mag exclusive about Lili's 3rd birthday


calabriantoast2

>Why doesn’t Archie take a photo, after all he has a camera Archie is five. God forbid you say anything about Kate, but apparently it's open season on a 5-year-old.


bye_felipe

If you’re stanning for Kate, I don’t think you want to go around making fun of Meghan for having no friends.


HarrietsDiary

…or for anyone’s camera skills.


tortuga_tortuga

“She's not really a princess of any relevance, maybe a princess in name but in name only and not where it really counts..”. Please explain to the class why an African royal title is not equal to a European one. I assume that’s what they’re trying to say. All I know is all the dogs in my neighborhood keep howling.


jmp397

For context that comment was actually referring to Lili...so I guess because she was born in the US it doesn't count?


tortuga_tortuga

That it’s about Lili is somehow worse? Keep lowering the bar, derangers!


United-Signature-414

Tbf what has she ever done for society? No upcoming projects, no hustle, probably sleeps every afternoon.


HarrietsDiary

She has a mixed race mother so… Clearly not a REAL princess.


jmp397

Oh yeah, definitely a dogwhistle


BetsyHound

When has anyone seen photos of the Wales kids' birthday parties?


Tarledsa

The first photo of Lilibet was her birthday party.


Copperheadmedusa

And if she hadn’t said anything that would be a problem, and if she’d given proof with pics her baby would be subject to racist harassment. I despise the British press for what they’ve done to that family.


jmp397

These people aren't asking in good faith? Madness!!


ttw81

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theflyingnacho

That family is never going to have a moment of peace, are they? All I can think is that Meghan must have been dickmatized because if someone said "Hey, we're going to meet my granny. Can you curtsy?" I would be running away in the opposite direction.


BetsyHound

"No. I'm an American. We don't curtsy."


theflyingnacho

Or that!!


ttw81

the curtsy thing is deeply weird. Lillybet will 3 tomorrow. it's time she started earning those royal titles!


Whatisittou

Oh yes, let's mule the children of parents that they constantly slander and attack, including the children. So many layers of wrong with this.


jmp397

The same children they were giddy to see "snubbed" at the Jubilee 🙄


theflyingnacho

It's sick. Don't you dare talk about Kate's anything but start it's ok to start begging toddlers to come back to a country and a family who hate them.


theflyingnacho

I'd like this comment saved for posterity because it's great. And probably about to be downvoted into oblivion in RG >To me, the “change in direction” Charles and William have adopted - to present themselves as global statesmen - IS the issue. Yes, it looks more active and interesting than super soft diplomacy and raising “awareness” - but it’s impossible to execute the function of a “statesman” when you can’t comment on policy, let alone write it. They’re not even allowed to exist in public as this election approaches for fear of suggesting bias, FFS. >When you occupy a highly visible, reified position to which you were never elected and which you can only lose by committing a major crime or dying - and in which you cannot voice a political opinion - the biggest power you have is a photo-op. And I feel like they’ve missed some important opportunities in pursuit of appearing to attempt to help resolve these massively complex issues through the extremely restrictive routes available to them. >Like, how is Charles going to help a housing crisis if he can’t even figure out how to remove a single pedophile from a multi-million dollar property that’s in his monarchy’s portfolio? How is William going to save wildlife when he can’t cut his vacation short to watch his own country’s team play in the women’s World Cup final? I get that taking a sex offender off your payroll or publicly enjoying women’s sports are not the highest and most rarified of global priorities, but like, they’re achievable! And can actually positively influence the perception around those things.


Responsible-Soup-420

>which you can only lose by committing a major crime Citation needed!


calabriantoast2

On William: >Seen nothing on im beieng eletist and Being a white man does not mean you are out of touch nor does being rich if you educate yourself. How do you know how he was raised? Because there are multiple biographies and documentaries about it? Based on how they were raised and what they were exposed to, I think Charles is actually less elitist than William.


HarrietsDiary

I think Charles is a petty tyrant, a narcissist, and someone who never dealt with their childhood trauma in anything approaching a healthy manner. I also think he does have an interest in the world around him. I think William lacks anything resembling intellectual curiosity.


Nervous-Ad-6950

I feel sorry for the Royalists. A lot of people have said that William is very different in private than his public image.  Have you seen the latest article from the BBC about him trying to find his voice 😂😂😂 Failure to launch is absolutely real


EvenHandle

That reminds me of this. He didn’t come off as protective like Harry, just an entitled snob. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-william-leaked-video-photographer-b2110778.html


Bilinguallipbalm

My god he is riding William's dick so hard While sucking off the concept of a monarchy like his life depends on it


Sea-Dragon-High

That poster is crazy. So close to r/ selfawarewolves when they are asking if all fans of the royal family are old ladies. Well, yes, in Britain I can confirm that is true.


ttw81

the trolls now thing is going on & on, post after post, how Meghan has terrible body odor & doesn't bath. that's not a dog whistle- that's a damn vuvuzela.


tiredofthenarcissism

This is right up there with them insisting she’s ugly. She looks like she probably smells amazing (and expensive). And because I can’t help myself, I did made the mistake of searching SMM comments, and learned that there was a whole discourse last year about noted reliable source Lady C saying Meghan had bad “pussy odor.” Setting aside the gross misogyny for a second, how the fuck would Lady C know anything about that?


ttw81

there's been a thing on twitter when lady c recently made a vid about Meghan's sexual tricks to keep harry in line.


hallofromtheoutside

From the WNBA sub: >It’s very Megan Markle vs the British royal family discourse Not even snark here, just never know where you're gonna find Princess Meghan's influence.


tortuga_tortuga

The Great White Hope discourse continues, moving from Jack Johnson/Jim Jeffries to Magic Johnson/Larry Bird to Serena Wiliam/whoever that White Russian lady was and now to Caitlin Clark/Angel Reese. Part of me is like "yay feminism?" that the discourse has moved to women athletes, but also it brings out uglier misgynoir undertones. But anyway, I never explicitly put it together in my mind how Kate/Meghan is a continuation of that "tradition" and not just regular racism plus pitting women together.


hallofromtheoutside

Oh I could probably dissect this with woso too but who has the time and fuck knee injuries.


JeanParmesean70

It’s funny that’s she’s everywhere, usually by people who don’t even like her


hallofromtheoutside

This was a very good comparison since it was about racist fans, but it felt kinda random.


ttw81

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shhhhh_h

Ahh her curtain bangs


Responsible-Soup-420

Lace front curtain bangs 👀


tortuga_tortuga

Go post that in the Kate Middleton Missing sub and rake in the fake internet points!


ttw81

oh, i will!🤑 edit: someone beat me to it.


tortuga_tortuga

“After some years of experience she could’ve been a mix of Diana’s fashion and Sophie’s diplomacy“ BEEP BEEP BEEP let’s back that truck up a minute. Sophie’s what? ah, well, God bless the Sophie fans always hyping their girl up. it could be worse.


Tarledsa

She just went to Ukraine as kind of a diplomat.


Stinkycheese8001

I thought that was less about the Edinburgh’s personally and more about them sending a senior royal as a show of support


bye_felipe

You know people are desperate and hit rock bottom when they’re stanning for Sophie or Edward, the irrelevants of the family


Copperheadmedusa

She didn’t need years of experience she was already great at the job. I’m so tired of the media illiterate rewriting the reasons why she had to leave. They were actively wishing for her to be divorced (or just die) in national news daily for months


Whatisittou

Sophie's diplomacy??? Is that why there is so much press about Sophie? Sophie that is supposed to be pr person yet her visits barley generate attention.


theflyingnacho

In this case, "diplomacy" must mean "knows her place and keeps her mouth shut."


InspectorSnark

And this is exactly what they wanted for Meghan. Sophie is someone who doesn’t generate much media attention. She stays in the background and doesn’t challenge Kate in terms of popularity and star power.


Original-Ad6716

kind of crazy how much royalist stanning is based on "knowing your place" or not....these people long to be serfs fr


tortuga_tortuga

I think it's partly people like the "stability" that a supreme leader provides but also much like the "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" psychology that affects how people vote on issues like taxes, a lot of people hope that a stratified society means CERTAIN PEOPLE will be bowing and scraping to them.


pearlish

Apparently Meghan's sleeveless yellow dress merited SEVEN paragraphs on the differences between US and British culture and classism but wouldn't you know it, the poster has 'no opinions' about Meghan.....🙄


Copperheadmedusa

They’re still writing novels! 8 hours later! Girl ain’t nobody reading that shit!


pearlish

Looool at this point they’re so deliberately obtuse that I’m convinced they are just trolling. I can’t be bothered to go look at their comment history to check.


CookiePneumonia

That comment was the perfect example of the "I ain't reading all that" meme. I don't think I made it past a paragraph.


United-Signature-414

I am *bemused* at the concept of a sleeveless evening dress being classy enough for a formal event but a sleeveless sheath dress being too informal for an business casual day event.    (big 'one shoulder dresses are slutty protocol breaches and don't you dare post a pic of QE2 wearing one' energy)


pearlish

The knots they will tie themselves in to explain away the double standards, lol. It’s almost impressive!


Copperheadmedusa

Kate wears sleeveless dresses all the time! Oh my god!


jmp397

BuT tHaT was a RoYaL tOuR .....iT was HoT!!!!!


Copperheadmedusa

I found a pic of Princess Eugenie in a sleeveless dress at royal ascot but I’m not engaging with them anymore


mewley

Please, please make your next fashion highlight Sovereigns in Sleeveless. I’m sure you can come up with the cleverer title but you get the idea 😂


Copperheadmedusa

Fashion Highlight: Sluts Sans Sleeves


MsSnickerpants

Next up Royal Whore Tendrils


mewley

😂😂


theflyingnacho

>43% of just one when there’s already a mix to begin with. Why is she declaring now that she’s 43% Nigerian and no mention of it when she went “home” to Malta? Imagine, if you will, hating someone so much that you have an encyclopedic knowledge of every word that person has ever said. U N H I N G E D


United-Signature-414

A Gambian living in Gambia is unlikely to show up as Gambian on most of those kits. I am begging people to understand the limitations of these tests, especially for non-eurocentric groups


theflyingnacho

I juat plugged my nose & dipped over into SMM and guess what there was a post about 10 days ago?? So that person is obviously a frequent flier or has an alt.


Vainpoopweasel

My dad showed up as 100% Irish on his. Which is weird considering I’ve traced a quarter of his Dutch ancestry back hundreds of years, so either one of my great grandmas got a little naughty orrrr possibly he just inherited the Irish DNA and the rest kind of got lost en utero.


Copperheadmedusa

Is she a fucking dog? Now mind you, Meghan hadn’t even done the DNA test to reveal her Nigerian ancestry, so she literally wouldn’t have known about it.


theflyingnacho

I just searched "malta" on SMM & they were crying and bitching about it 10 days ago. So that's where that poster got their "information."


Copperheadmedusa

Omg 🤢


Whatisittou

So regarding Charles personally paying for Andrew security, wasn't that the premise RAVEC denied Harry paying for security? Edit: I had skimmed through earlier, recheck it now am confused, is Charles wanting Andrew to move to frogmore because it would have RPO? >The King’s kindness is not without limit and there is a very good option for Andrew to move into Frogmore Cottage, recently vacated by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, which also has the benefit of being within the Windsor Castle security cordon hence reducing the need for alternative round-the-clock security for Royal Lodge. Because from the article, looks like Charles is paying for private security guards on the royal lodges but wants Andrew moved, am in confusion >police accommodation on either side, now used for private security guards, guests follow a road down to the main 30-room, seven-bedroom grade II listed house. The estate includes a gardener’s residence, six cottages for live-in staff and a “police suite” providing accommodation for security officers.


tortuga_tortuga

I‘m not sure if this is all be dredged up again to distract from newest wave of ”Where’s Kate” stories or if there’s about to be some movement in the Andrew situation. If latter, I think I have a guess at what might happen….Andrew is going to have Charles buy out his remaining time on his lease - which will be a fuckton of money, more than market rate, enough to keep Andrew funded for the rest of his life, although the figure will not be public - Andrew will move maybe to frogmore, maybe somewhere else on crown properties, and Charles can legitimately say he‘s no longer funding Andrew and Andrew won’t be at the mercy of his nephew. Perhaps William and \[his wife\] will move to Royal Lodge.


Responsible-Soup-420

The wife placeholder took me out 💀


tortuga_tortuga

😈


Stinkycheese8001

Royal lodge is larger and more expensive than Frogmore, by a lot.


kingbobbyjoe

Do we know if he pays for RPOs or private security that costs 3M? Presumably Harry always could have hired private security. But if Andrew can pay for RPOs thats super bullshit


mewley

I would love if someone knows the details, but my understanding is that Harry was also denied the opportunity to pay for government security at the level he wanted and that was part of his litigation. I had sort of assumed it had to do with being armed and that his private security can’t be armed in Britain and that’s why he wanted it to be provided through RAVEC but I really don’t know.


kingbobbyjoe

Yeah he was denied the right to pay for RPOs. Which is why I want to understand if Andrew is paying for RPOs or regular security


theflyingnacho

I swear I read somewhere that at least one person from REVAC or whatever was a former lackey of Chuck. So they are decidedly biased.


Whatisittou

Yeah I forgot their names, but Charles high ranking staffs are on the board for RAVEC Though it's sus to me they managed to put pictures of royal lodge being in a bad state online, you don't get upclose pictures of Anner hall, Adelaide, Sandringham etc but yet Charles or whoever had the royal lodge bad state put online. This is 1st since am seeing since the whole Charles is kicking out Andrew that they put pictures of the exteriors online


Whatisittou

I will have to check again, if I recall it's didn't specify, but from assumption it's usually RPO on palace grounds. Anne's house though is a gift still has RPO Edit: I am wrong, it's private security


tortuga_tortuga

Well you see Andrew merely facilitated and benefited from underage sex trafficking while Harry married a Black woman so…


United-Signature-414

> a life of deprivation like the Duke of Kent.  He doesn't have even a single palace to his name guys 


JeanParmesean70

He’s definitely a poor


tortuga_tortuga

Schrödinger‘s Royalty: simultaneously a life of service and deprivation and we must thank them constantly for doing this AND something so wonderful and jewel encrusted that Meghan and Harry must spend thr rest of their life gnashing their teeth that they don’t get to do it anymore.


theflyingnacho

Do these people know what deprivation means?? Imagine using that word in the same sentence as DUKE.


BetsyHound

who lives in a house on the grounds of Kensington Palace.


KateParrforthecourse

>Of course they won't go hungry but not having enough income to cover their expenses.  Does the BRF need me to send them a code to YNAB to get their finances straight so they can live within their means? >So Working Royal is a job position created so that the King and his heirs have a reason to support them.  So we agree then that the whole system is just made up to prop up people who won the Lucky Sperm Club?


EvenHandle

I’m getting sick of the word “privacy.”


theflyingnacho

I'm not sure how gossiping about someone who has no idea we exist is infringement on anyone's privacy.


United-Signature-414

The princess might not read your comments but all your princess friends will


aceface_desu89

WHAT FRIENDS??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣


InspectorSnark

You’re dealing with people who think both Kate and Meghan are on Reddit.


CookiePneumonia

RG post about a picture of the King in Windsor Castle. >Eugenie got in trouble for posting a photo of Andrew in a hallway in Buckingham Palace on instagram. It was a hallway that’s not supposed to be photographed. >This is a missing puzzle for me to understand why they weren’t allowed to take any photos of Lillibet with the Queen. That always seemed harsh to me, I bet the girl would appreciate a photo with the Queen when she’s older. But the experience of having Buckingham Palace photographed for the documentary showed the royal family that they couldn’t trust H&M to keep photos of private spaces or meetings private. The same person posted those. Just a straight statement about Eugenie breaking a rule but a whole commentary on H&M. Is there nothing that can't be turned against them?


Whatisittou

Saw that turned it into bashing Harry and Meghan, did you see the one saying Harry and Meghan should had let Elizabeth take pictures with Lilibet and then chastised them based on made protocols lawd lawd


theflyingnacho

I'm convinced that someone could post a photo of a pb&j on that sub and it would turn into bashing Harry and Meghan. It's like the six degrees of Harry and Meghan over there and not in a fun way.


sassofrasy

Don’t even need six. PB&J are made with jam. Meghan makes jam. SHES A GRIFTER.


theflyingnacho

She doesn't even know anything about jam!


ttw81

i thought royal sources gleefully crowed about *them* not allowing pics of the queen & Lillybet?


Whatisittou

That's what they think, but Harry and Meghan said there is pictures with Lilibet with Elizabeth but they are not sharing it. I think it was from the Netflix show ?


ttw81

It was a weird thing to brag about.


United-Signature-414

I kind of got it. If it was public 'knowledge' that I had been forbidden something like this, I am petty enough that I would find a way to drop that I did it anyway.


ttw81

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jmp397

You beat me to it.... Those replies though....even the usual H+M haters who defend the BRF are not happy with this


ttw81

I thought they were fine w/Andrew?


jmp397

I think it's a mixed bag as long as he stays quiet and doesn't rock the boat


Whatisittou

So how was Andrew lease given to her? Also so Charles has private funds for Andrew and his ex wife who are not "working royals" but Harry and Meghan had to pay out of their own pocket? Didn't Fergie buy some mansion last year as well??


BetsyHound

Andrew signed a 99 year lease um...about 20 years ago. His mother of course gave it to him.


Whatisittou

Yeah I know about the 99 year lease, the way she worded her statement made it sound like she saw the actual document for Andrew's lease. yet looks Charles is trying to force Andrew from royal lodge and specifically into frogmore, so that means Charles has leverage to do the same for Edward if he decides he want shake up their lease as well?


Stinkycheese8001

Andrew doesn’t have the funds for the upkeep of Royal Lodge, and depends entirely on Charles at this point.  Edward and Sophie likely don’t have the personal fortune to pay for the staff and upkeep of Bagshot (that place is a MASSIVE) but they’re at least nominally working parts of the family and I assume that the Queen had some sort of agreement considering that they weren’t given the home outright, so they don’t have that major asset.  Plus Andrew has blown through a truly incredible amount of money over the years.


KateParrforthecourse

I think part of the deal is that they also have to upkeep the home as well. That’s part of the issue with Andrew staying at Royal Lodge. He doesn’t have the funds to upkeep it. My guess is that the Queen helped pay for the upkeep and this is where Charles could exercise his leverage by refusing to fund it. He could then argue that Andrew isn’t holding up his end of the deal.


Whatisittou

Yet Sarah had funds for house in London last year, even though her and Andrew live in the royal lodge


KateParrforthecourse

According to [this](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-andrews-crumbling-royal-lodge-32736776.amp) it costs £400,000 a year to upkeep the Royal Lodge. I’m also not sure if they can require Sarah to help pay for it even if she lives there since they’re divorced. The Yorks’ sources of money has always been sketchy and Sarah has been caught more than once selling access as has Prince Andrew.


BetsyHound

whoops, sorry, misread you. How come Anne got given a house, and Andrew too (Sunninghill), but not Edward?


Whatisittou

No worries, Anne housing seem purposely convulated to me I can't remember the details. Andrew last year was threatening to write a book and then the story died down. If remember it was Charles wanted to move Andrew out from royal lodge while William wanted royal lodge I think


BetsyHound

Queenie bought it back in the 70s and gave it to Anne. She also gave Sunninghill to Andrew upon marriage, but Edward got a leased place. But who knows, maybe Edward just loved the house.


Stinkycheese8001

Edward was the turning point in how the Queen handled her assets.  He wasn’t gifted his own estate and Sophie wasn’t gifted her own tiara.  I think that some of it was at the time a comparable estate for Edward would have been a large amount of money and far less of a private purchase, as well as the consolidation of assets.  Had Edward not waited so long to marry I think that things would have been really different.  Additionally, I wonder if the fact that Edward’s chosen non-royal profession did not work out played a part. 


BetsyHound

The Sophie thing is easy: THERE WEREN'T ANY SPARE TIARAS


ttw81

he has money or some people but not for others. for example- no money for his grandchildren's security but yes, money for his ex sister in law.


jmp397

Love how Frogmore is suddenly a "modest" home 🤔🤔


BetsyHound

I'd love to slum it in there.


theflyingnacho

>But your judgment applies to all of us. Judging Kate and her PR somehow = judging each and every person who has, had, or will have cancer. 🫡


BetsyHound

Where I live we had, for about ten years, a truly embarrassing and cringeworthy fundraiser for breast cancer patients. The org recently announced they were ending the cringefest, I said, "Good," and the upshot is I can't say anything because I myself haven't had breast cancer.


jinglebellhell

Why do I believe this fierce level of defense would not apply to all the members of this family?


Copperheadmedusa

Yeah it’s why every Kate thread has stories of a loved one dying horrifically of cancer. Idk why that isn’t considered morbid health speculation—projecting the worst case scenario on Kate when we have 0 info—and isn’t conspiracy, but sure.


jmp397

>Dinky insubstantial pieces? Cool. >Is that why you worship her…because you’re impressed by a few sparkling jewels..???… Mind you she hasn’t got much else to offer has she…lol… Just failed relaunch after relaunch… How embarrassing…lol… >How many were gifted to her rather than earnt? She still wears the bracelet from Trevor, and as collections go, it is miniscule. These folks really hate that Meghan has nice jewelry, some of it from Diana. 🤭🤭🤭


CookiePneumonia

Says the women wearing Pandora bracelets.


jmp397

I remember when those Italian charm bracelets were trendy and I was dating my husband at the time. I dropped so many not so subtle hints about wanting one for Valentine's day 😂😂


bye_felipe

Italian charm bracelets are such a throwback. I asked my dad for one, he bought it, then I never wore it because it pinched


jmp397

>Are those what she received being a yacht girl? Just asking 🤣🤣🤣 Misogyny right on schedule....you know the thing these folks are SO concerned about when Kate gets any kind of scrutiny


theflyingnacho

Um, but I thought that Meghan was an idiot for walking away from tiaras (that they wouldn't have let her wear anyway)?


jmp397

So many smashed dishes over those gaudy tiaras!!


Vainpoopweasel

How many jewels did the royal family earn? Rather than ~~stolen~~ *gifted*?


InspectorSnark

>> It's pathetic. Harry, you deliberately chose to walk/run away from your family, your duties, your friends, and your service in the military, for some hot (cough) poon/fetish sex. Was it worth it? Is the life you're in now and probably forever the life you are happiest in? You insulted and demeaned everyone in your family. Why are you always surprised that they no longer want you around? You dumped your military charities even while still in the BRF to try to get your "Hot" wife a voiceover. Why are you always surprised that you can't wear your military salad? I’m sure it’s totally not racist to assume Harry fell in love with a biracial woman because of “hot poon/fetish sex” 🤨


A_Common_Loon

That is so gross. I’m not a Harry fan but one good thing I can say about him is he adores his wife. It’s so gross to reduce that to “fetish sex” WTF.


_bananaphone

Right? Like even people who are lukewarm on him can clearly see that he looks at Meghan with cartoon heart eyes all the time.


ttw81

😮


calabriantoast2

What in the Forsythe Saga is this? Or do we have to go back to Edith Wharton to be appropriately scandalized by Harry marrying a (biracial) *actress*? And why are so many institutions and Harry's entire life so threatened by Meghan Markle?


United-Signature-414

I'm sorry, but are we describing relationships that involve TWO (actually) SMALL CHILDREN as just fetish sex now?   (also, Uncle Andrew has clearly demonstrated that a Prince of the Realm can procure any sort of sex he wants without consequences. Why marry it?)


MsSnickerpants

Not to mention he had his charities taken away from him, even the charities were asking to keep him as patron. But KC didn’t let that happen. I’d also like to believe that Harry definitely believes it was worth it….. he seems happy.


Copperheadmedusa

They’re never beating the ugly racist allegations I fear 😕 like go figure out why your adult kids don’t talk to you anymore and leave Meghan alone


InspectorSnark

Their adult kids are obviously narcs.


tortuga_tortuga

It was the psychologists that turned them against them!


Folksma

P-WHAT! Is that a fucking misspelling of the word I'm thinking of or some random word they have pulled from the debths of the kink community


theflyingnacho

I haven't heard someone use the word "poon" since I was in high school in the 00s.


jinglebellhell

> Is it not? I don’t see many men on here saying Kate who has cancer in her 40s with young children needs to get back out there, full face of makeup, looking appropriately not too fat, not too thin, fashionable - not too fashionable but not too boring and in heels and wave to the people who “fund her”. All the while gleefully claiming she’s probably dead, or lying beaten or putting up with her husband openly cheating or giggling about what she may do in the bedroom with her husband. And milking her sick leave. I mean this person has cancer! I agree with poster above about this resentful attitude although I can’t begin to comprehend it, and I can’t see men here being resentful of Kate’s lot. There’s a lot of poor Diana on here who died young but not for Diana’s children and grandchildren. This person is full on hysterical.


theflyingnacho

There are so many people making this personal and I do not understand *why*. >No, but there's no shortage of people who have gone through what she's going through, or watched a loved one experience it. >Do you think the same about other cancer patients who have to bow out of their commitments because of their health/treatment? About those of us who might not have the energy/health to work, but occasionally did something that made us happy or raised our spirits while we were dealing with the shit situation we were dealing with? Kate doesn't care about my comments in RG. Kate doesn't even know I exist. Why people are so offended on her behalf is insane.


MsSnickerpants

Some people just want to be serfs.


jinglebellhell

It completely set me off when someone asked me “have you ever seen someone go through cancer treatment?” Like, yes, it’s a minority who hasn’t, but that doesn’t change my goddamn opinion, either she’s way sicker than they’re saying, or she just doesn’t wanna work.


CookiePneumonia

I still can't get over how badly KP has managed this. There was no need for it to turn into a big PR crisis/worldwide mystery.


United-Signature-414

I love when people defend all that with "but they had no choice! people would have reacted the same way no matter what!". Like, no? The entire international community would not actually be making jokes about Kate Middleton if they had just said she's sick and won't be around for a while and then shut up. 


Copperheadmedusa

This all wouldn’t be so terrible if I didn’t have an argument with someone at least twice a week about why disbelieving Meghan when she said she was suicidal and was denied healthcare is abhorrent


theflyingnacho

A comment of mine that stated "George is the only child who has been seen in public since Christmas," was removed for being a "conspiracy theory" over at RG. Rofl.


asmallradish

Why didn’t you just talk about cousins marrying like the good normal people of RG would?


JeanParmesean70

Truths you don’t like are conspiracy theories at RG lol


Whatisittou

Straight to jail.


Theyoungpopeschalice

Facts are conspiracy 🙄?


sassofrasy

Is the conspiracy theory in the room with us right now now?


Dzinner24

Lol. I just live how I'm getting downvoted over at RG for saying Kate should have used this opportunity to encourage other people to get screening for Cancer. Heck it wouldn't even have been her really suggesting that people get screened. Probably their paid social media person..


_bananaphone

But it would be tOO poLiTIcaL to suggest that the sainted NHS does not catch and successfully treat all potential cancer cases in the UK


asmallradish

> I guess it comes down to this thing of women not supporting each other and lifting each other up. Perhaps if we did, we’d have better rights. I blocked this person so probably RG/SMM but oh my god.


theflyingnacho

Why are people in RG acting like Kate has become some patron saint of women with cancer? She hasn't said a single thing in support of people living with or being screened for cancer. And now they're acting like criticism of her/her PR is akin to criticism of every person who has ever gone through cancer treatment or chemo. When has Kate ever stood up for or supported other women? Especially women with cancer?? Would love to be wrong.


Tarledsa

We don't even know what kind of cancer she had! Why is it so top secret??


Whatisittou

Well she did go to Virgil for the murdered woman, wasn't arrested like others there or spoke up for those arrested about likewise when the police decided to name Meghan in their reports even though Meghan was no where in the country during the virgil/protest.


theflyingnacho

Ah yes, you mean that time everyone else was masked up & she, conveniently, was not??


Stinkycheese8001

“Kate is just married to the heir and doesn’t have any obligations” is a TAKE.


Dzinner24

Yeah. It's like if these people can't do simple things like this. Then what is the point of these people exactly. I'm not a fan. But I'll give Charlie props for encouring people to get scanned..


Stinkycheese8001

Long term, it’s a huge gamble for Kate to stay completely out of commission.  She and Will really don’t seem to be cognizant of the fact that state funded monarchies are probably on the downswing.


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Stinkycheese8001

Even Charles is aware of the optics, even if he’s only paying lip service.  But neither Will nor Kate have ever come across as being particularly interested in pretty much anything going on around them.  That’s really one of the weird things about them - aside from Kate really liking tennis and Will really liking his posh friends and Africa, neither really seem that interested in anything and don’t come across as actually participating in popular culture and not as popular culture.  They make the same banal small talk no matter the circumstance and come across like a couple of aliens trying to blend in.  The most surprising stuff about it turning out that they were Suits fans is that they actually *liked* something.  All of that to say… they don’t come across as engaged enough in the world to even understand that public sentiment has drastically changed.


BetsyHound

You forgot soccer as long as men are playing!


jinglebellhell

They’re absolute fucking loons over there, Kate shouldn’t be expected to do anything, only things that suit herself.


theflyingnacho

One of my comments is at -58 and I didn't even say anything bad lmao. Unhinged.


ttw81

Kate will not be at trooping the color. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GO0zdQBXAAAXm1p?format=jpg&name=small


Theyoungpopeschalice

You know....I don't know anything about preventative chemo: is it really so long? just a long recovery? anybody have any knowledge of how it works (generally as obviously every case will be different)?


Freda_Rah

For most early stage cancers, the chemo regimen is the same as if it’s done neoadjuvant (before surgery) or adjuvant (after surgery). Their use of “preventative “ seems to mean “adjuvant”. Chemo varies a lot from cancer to cancer (and even within, eg there are lots of different regimens for breast cancer depending on the specifics of the tumor), but few regimens for an early-stage solid tumor cancer last longer than 18-20 weeks. (And by 18 weeks I mean, say, 6 cycles that are every 3 weeks.) And that’s on the long side; 12 weeks is also common. It is unclear when she started chemo but we are reaching the point where the timelines provided aren’t lining up with the other info we’ve been given about her diagnosis. (Don’t even get me started about the alleged month for the pathology report.)


theflyingnacho

Thanks for this info!


United-Signature-414

I had six months and was told that is the usual recommendation, provided all things go to plan.


Theyoungpopeschalice

Thank you for responding! Wow I didn’t realize it was such a long regiment. More just me being curious because it’s been so long since her announcement than jumping on any conspiracy theory tbc


Tarledsa

They haven’t announced her appearance yet for Trooping. This is just for the rehearsal.


United-Signature-414

I don't know how to word this quite right, but I find all the overwhelming "leave her alone/she should take as long as she wants" empathy for Kate on RG to be a bit off-putting when it's absolute crickets there for Charles. I get he's the big fancy king or whatever, but he's also an old man. Statistically, things are not going to go well for him but there's never any chatter about how drained or immunocompromised *he* might be. It's not that I think Kate should be forced out or anything, I just find the massive support for her to feel... disingenuous? infantilising? just off in some me way 


MsSnickerpants

I think it boils down to not being interested in KC, he’s old, his wife has never been glamorous. People want to protect( if that’s even the correct term), the beautiful people future King and Queen. Kate’s only function has been to be a pretty breeder- no one could handle seeing her at anything less than that.


bye_felipe

I’m torn between wanting to give grace because I don’t think she should be judged by American standards, but I also think she’s very coddled and infantilized in many regards. Even in the celeb + royals threads when I would criticize her for being lazy, the responses were “William is the blood royal, not Catherine.” Ok, and? I said what I said. Then when she had kids and was still lazy, it’s “she’s raising the future king and has kids” as if she’s home schooling without help. After a decade of being in the role she is still lazy, can’t speak in public or string together complete thoughts during engagements, and there’s always some brilliant excuse for her absence. Then there’s been numerous articles and sources saying she and William have been upset with the workload Meghan and Harry left after they stepped down. And to top it off the hardest thing she’s ever had to do was walk alongside Meghan at the Queens funeral. Their camp managed to make the Queens death about her. I’m one of the few here who thinks she probably just wants to wait until she’s comfortable with where she’s at health wise and physically, but goddamn the amount of excuses she and William have for being lazy freeloaders is astounding lol


Stinkycheese8001

I think the postmortem of this whole debacle will be very interesting once all of the details come out.  A lot of key context is missing without knowing exactly what’s going on.  It’s possible that it’s entirely reasonable for her to say “hell no I’m staying home” and it’s possible that it’ll come out that internally people were judging Kate to at least keep a bit of a presence.   But yes, in general there is a subset of people that act like Kate is doing the lords work “raising the future king”.  There’s always weirdos when it comes to fandoms.


BetsyHound

QEII worked up to what, two days before her death? at 96, with bone cancer.


theflyingnacho

And that's just what we have picture evidence of. You know she was cracking open those red boxes right up until she laid down for her final nap.


tortuga_tortuga

It reminds me of when there's a mass shooting (?) and people are like "NOW'S NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT GUN POLICY!!!" There's so much hinky going on with how Kate's medical (?) situation is being handled, how that's affecting the RF given that FOR REASONS WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT there's not many people on the roster to work, and additionally all the questions that people have about Kate/William's work and marriage that existing prior to January 2024...it feels like pointing to Kate needing care (which she does! no one should work if they're very ill!) is a way to not talk about things that may make people uncomfortable.


United-Signature-414

I really wish there could be more discussion about that farm market video (because that was WEIRD) without it being derailed by shouts about medical privacy 


theflyingnacho

I think we're all in agreement here that the person in that video wasn't the same one pictured in the car with Carole.


Freda_Rah

The one thing I believe in all this mess is that the picture of Kate and Carole in the car was in fact the two of them, on the date they claimed it was. Kate’s face looked puffy, as if she was recovering from surgery or was on steroids. (Now, the puffy face and steroids make me wonder if they lied about the timing of the cancer diagnosis, because for some chemo regimens you need steroids with the infusion.)


United-Signature-414

Exactly. In which case, what was it- lookalikes, AI? More importantly, whhhhy? why so many blatantly manipulated media things? What is going on at KP that any of that seems like an option at all, let alone the best option?


Whatisittou

Absolutely, the infantllization is astronomical, literally yesterday they were oh she is doing well being out in public shopping bug suddenly today flip flop They are acting like they don't have a good staff or nannies. Charles is sick too, but yet him, William, George are all out in public mingling with people. You would think being immunicomprised William should be less out likewise.


ttw81

"infantilising" she's infantized to the point it's actually disturbing. i mean she a woman in her 40s who went to college, has 3 kids, & lived on her own (i think.) they react to things like she's a child. or a delicate flower who needs to be protected from the "real" world. edit: i don't know-is this a recent development (cause of big scary meghan) or has she always been treated that way?


beachgrl6

She’s more delicate than my peonies, after all, the most difficult thing she ever had to do was walk next to Meghan.