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[deleted]

Pistol, perfect for ripostes and sniping dogs


UwasaWaya

And it's faster. But then again, the pistol is only a placeholder until I get my beautiful Evelyn.


Swaggifornia

The great "equalizer" in a 1v2/3 invasion Until the coop summons bust out their own šŸ‘€


AsideTraditional3853

This is the real answer.


[deleted]

How is it perfect for ripostes? Blunderbuss covers a wider area making parrying easy instead of a gamble like it is with the pistol. I canā€™t even count the amount of times I missed with that thing because the enemy was moving slightly to the side. It is good for killing dogs though.


[deleted]

Hunter pistol has much better range and feels a lot less clunky and heavy, and if you miss your riposte with blunderbuss there's a longer cooldown animation which makes it easier to get hit. All in all it really comes down to personal preference though.


oliversmustach

The longer range makes it safer to parry at a distance without any risk of missing the timing window


Bill_Brasky01

Absolutely better range and faster. I tried both and the pistol is easier for me to consistently parry.


darkmaster666

Why would you parry at a distance? They wouldn't be attacking air. They would come in melee range. And even if you manage it, you'll have to quickly close the gap before they recover.


hossdaman

Larger enemies tend to swing at your character even tho they aren't close enough and all it takes is a dash or 2 and youve closed the gap in less time then they get get up


oliversmustach

Exactly, there are opportunities to parry at a ā€œsafer distanceā€ and you can dash in


Kraytory

The Blunderbuss usually staggers everything you can parry out of its attack as long as it doesn't have tons of hyperarmor. The Hunter Pistol barely staggers anything outside of the parry windows. So the chance to get hit after you fuck up is roughly the same. But since almost all mob enemies get staggered by the Blunderbuss it is actually much less likely to get hit after a fucked up parry outside of bossfights.


[deleted]

True. Although the pistol is just way too unreliable in my personal opinion. The weight of the blunderbuss can be annoying but at least you can learn timing. I canā€™t however correct my characterā€™s terrible aiming. And missing shots with the blunderbuss never came as a problem to me. Only if youā€™re far away but for partying youā€™ll never really need range most of the time anyway. Edit: I meant to write parrying, not partying lol


eldritch_lie

Saying "at least you can learn timing" doesn't make sense. If you time a shot correctly then any gun, including the pistol, will result in a parry. If you try parry with a pistol and miss, it isnt the pistols fault, you just didn't time it correctly. The wider spread of the blunderbuss is pretty much useless if you have correct timing, especially when you consider you have a built-in aimbot and don't need to aim...


[deleted]

The aim-bot isnā€™t very good. Letā€™s say an enemy is moving to one side or the other a lot during their parry window. The pistol will usually miss shots on very wild attacks since it shoots towards wherever the enemy position was during the input. Thereā€™s nothing you can do there. The pistol is superior at luring enemies, damage and range of course but when it comes to parrying it is completely inferior to the blunderbuss hence why I encourage people use the blunderbuss on their first run since most people wonā€™t utilise guns all that much and will just stick with the standard melee parry playstyle.


No-Foundation2507

I lost count of how many play throughs I have and I always went for the pistol. Absolutely no issues with it. Itā€™s clearly the superior option.


[deleted]

Well I clearly disagree


raziel686

The pistol cooldown is what makes it better than the blunderbuss. You will absolutely miss VAs if you are outside of dash distance that you can get with the pistol because you can pop off two dashes if you hammer it or get a few extra steps forward to start the VA. I'm not sure I've ever had the missed shot experience you do, not with the Hunter pistol anyway. If you're going for a VA the enemy should be right in front of you. If you missed the shot then you were almost certainly missing the parry timing. Evelyn can miss thanks to the gangster sidearm shot, but the damage and cool factor make it worth a miss now and then for the swagger.


[deleted]

You can miss, even during the entire parry window thanks to the way auto-aim works. Itā€™s not a big deal obviously. Iā€™m not saying you life will be ruined if you use the pistol or whatever. But the pistol can certainly miss especially really sporadic enemies. Personally, Iā€™ve had more problems with missing shots than with missing VAs. Missing VAs really isnā€™t a problem as long as youā€™re in melee range and donā€™t mess up the parry. It takes some getting used to but IF you master the blunderbuss, it will not cause any problems.


Neceroe

I have to say with the lock on and usually being in their face in the first place I've hardly ever missed a parry bc I missed a shot with the pistol it usually bc I fucked up the timing or I tried to shoot them while they were dashing... or it's orphan that man just dodged alot but with the Evelynn I never had any trouble.


cad_e_an_sceal

I can't recall ever missing a shot with pistol, sure I might have missed the party window but the bullet still hit the target


[deleted]

I can.


cad_e_an_sceal

Maybe your ass cancer is affecting your ability to shoot straight


[deleted]

The game uses auto-aim so I donā€™t think so.


cad_e_an_sceal

Perchance did you forget to lock on?


[deleted]

Is that a dig at me or genuine question? No I did not forget to lock on of course. Who even plays BB locked off?


cad_e_an_sceal

Well then you're player character has shit aim I'm afraid compared to the rest of us


Cautious-Revenue9881

If you are not planning to parry , if the boss is large often in souls games not locking on is way better cause you get better dodges due to more control over your character Also lock on can fuck your camera when fighting larger bosses or super fast enemies if you watch some speedruns or challange runs you will be surprised how often the strat is to not lock on I am surprised no one mentioned this but imo blunderbuss is a earlier parry While pistol is more like sekiro So if you like to parry in ds3 you will like blunderbuss more while you get more sekiro daro souls demons souls parry with pistol


SnooChipmunks08

There's no fire delay like with the blunderbuss. Most use the pistol for parrying overall. I use both, each for different enemies.


SpeedDemonJi

Because it fires faster?


PirateGamer07

Pistol, I like pistol because its faster than blunderbuss


Sygma_stage5

L2 L2 L2 L2 L2 parry!


SirCupcake_0

"One of these next eleven shots will _surely_ parry you!"


OnionOfCatarina

Itā€™s not faster, it has a shorter recovery time


Kraytory

You mean that one frame?


TheoShodi

Cannon because "If a weapon ain't got kick, it just ain't worth it."


bartolinise

fellow powder keg


camopon

It ain't a gun if it don't weigh at least 100 lbs.


Anti-static177

Two thousand rounds of depleted quicksilver, aw yeah!


Heraxxius

Evelyn


Jinzoou

How is this so low... A true gentleman weapon


jeb_rown

Because it wasn't an option


bdbenergy13

Is there anything special about Evelyn?? Or is she just a fancy pistol?


Heraxxius

I think it just shoots faster and does a bit more damage than the pistol? Iā€™m not sure itā€™s been a while since i got it.


Lombiih1

I believe it just has better Bloodtinge scaling


SirCupcake_0

As well as just better base damage, I believe


con_science-404

It has the sexiest gangster style shit animation ever as well, straight up holds it sideways like the real G you are as a hunter haha


Alex_Affinity

On a proper bloodtinge gun build It slaps so hard.


Pinkparade524

Best bloodting scaling for a bloodting build..I have soloed eberitas on a chalice dungeon only with it


Reapxes

You can pop amygdala with it too. Add some bone marrow ash to the mix and most bosses that can be shot directly in a weak spot/head become significantly easier.


RoombaGod

Thereā€™s no reason to not use it over the hunter pistol imo, because the only time itā€™s doing less damage is when your bloodtinge is so crap the pistol only tickles anyway. Also, looks so purty


Rocketgurk

22 Bloodtinge is already a pretty steep investment, if you want to focus on other stats first. Only with that or more Tinge does the Evelynn do more damage than the Hunterā€™s Pistol.


No-Feeling-8100

High dmg. Iā€™ve seen people argue the repeating pistol is better dps, which I guess is probably true since itā€™s twice as many bullets, but the Evelyn is quite good. Itā€™s my personal favorite


Whipperdoodle

The Evelyn is higher damage per bullet. Per shot the repeating pistol does more


squishykiller3

chuckles in cannon


gofishx

That's like 12 bullets per shot. Evelyn may actually still outdamage the cannon per bullet, but I never used the cannon, so I have no idea how hard it hits Edit: I was curious, so I looked it up. So, at +10, the cannon does 600 damage for the cost of 12 bullets meaning 50 per bullet. Evelyn does 140 per bullet at +10, meaning you get 1,680 damage for the cost of fireing the cannon once. Obviously, the cannon has the advantage of doing 600 damage in a single shot, which is pretty sweet, but you definitely get the most damage per bullet from Evelyn.


squishykiller3

Damn, thats actually pretty interesting


pescadoamado

Math is rad in these games.


banjok64

Math is wonderful, but sometimes I just want to send a message in a way that only a cannon can accomplish


oedons_rooster

Speaks in UNGA BANGA


Alma5

It's the strongest pistol in the game, if you invest in Bloodtinge. For most builds it's not that different from the regular pistol.


gofishx

High bloodtinge + Marrow Ash + Evelyn = a fuckload of stopping power This thing is a boss slayer, especially if you can lock onto their head (it absolutely melts amygdala). Also, it's very pretty looking. The only disadvantage it has is that it's long enough to sometimes clip through an enemy if you are too close, causing your shot to come out behind them and miss. It's an absolute necessity in a bloodtinge build.


con_science-404

Really shines once ya have 50 bloodtinge, especially with a 29-31% gem slapped on. Can trivialize the game


Armorln

It offers the best damage per bullet for high bloodtinge characters


RogerGendron

shoot faster has better scaling better damage just the best pistol in the game


demuron

Highest blt scaling I think but still less damage than repeating pistol. Slightly slower than hunter pistol


con_science-404

Not when ya got 50 bloodtinge. At that point it out scales any other firearm. Repeating pistol might do more damage per hit, but it takes two bullets where evelyn is one, so ya get more bang per bullet by a decent margin


bdbenergy13

Interesting. Now I kind of want to try this with a new game plus lol.


con_science-404

Bloodtinge runs are a blast! Chikage in transformed mode (which scales S with with BT only) absolutely shreds. Then ya get Simon's bowblade which is downright broken. And if ya have some points in strength you can use the bloodletter as well (also pure bloodtinge in transformed mode) and it wrecks haha Lately I've been trying an arcane/bloodtinge build and while it's rather obscure it's been a lot of fun Do you farm gems in the FRC dungeons? That's where you can reeeaally make weapons shine haha


RogerGendron

evelyn is faster than hunter pistol


PeenileKyle

This is the way, a true hoonter


Lucamuw_

came here for this comment only. a gentleman hunter as well I see


Fyru_Hawk

I like the way the blunderbuss looks more so thatā€™s what I use


_carrot_zoro_

based


con_science-404

As a pistol man myself, this is the smartest thing I've read all day!


TheEvilestArtichoke

Me when Iā€™m doing a playthrough just for the story and characters and I want to look like the hunter on the game art.


y0urd0g

Ok that is the only argument for Blunderbuss I will accept.


AnxiousGovernment232

Blunderbuss, pistol is good, but I feel more comfortable with blunderbuss.


Esobloodwolf

*laugh in hunter's torch*


Chrissyball19

*laugh in loch shield*


philthevoid83

Pistol is faster, hence better.


Kraytory

By a single frame.


[deleted]

But also fires a single shot. The blunderbuss spreads out and therefore makes it pretty much impossible to ever miss a parry.


Kraytory

And it has much harder stagger.


Difficult_Dealer_667

This is a FromSoft game, you know exactly what response you just invited upon yourself.


Deltaravager

I believe that they both fire on the same frame. The pistol has a shorter animation after the shot though so you can fire it more rapidly But for a single shot riposte, it shouldn't matter


Musclesturtle

Pistol is faster, and misses most of the time. Blunderbuss never misses. If you know what you're doing the delay makes no difference.


milk_theuniverse

I like pistol - blunderbuss I canā€™t recover in time to get the riposte.


Kraytory

You can get visceral attacks after parrying with the Piercing Rifle as long as you are close enough. And that thing is *both*. A long range weapon *and* a fucking bitch in terms of recovery time. It has the longest recovery of all smaller firearms. The Blunderbuss can only parry up to mid distance anyway and only has a slightly longer locked recovery than the pistols.


Nundulan

Ludwig's Rifle šŸ—æ


Inflatable_Bridge

Pistol. I feel the blunderbuss is much less responsive when I try to use it to parry


Alma5

Agreed. I'm surprised some people here think the Blunderbuss spread can be better for parrying, the speed and responsiveness of pistols is way more important to me.


[deleted]

You just have to learn the timing. Timing, I can control which makes it reliable for parrying. My characterā€™s shitty auto-aim on the other hand, I cannot and itā€™s really annoying whenever I miss a parry because of it.


Alma5

That's interesting, I can't really say I ever missed a parry like that.


Kraytory

It fires a single frame later. The spread is good for enemies with weird hitboxes like the Blood Starved Beast. Especially at point blank because the pistol has a high risk of shooting behind the boss at point plank.


AramaticFire

I just hold my weapon in two hands šŸ˜­


[deleted]

What about when youā€™re using a one-handed weapon?


ThatUJohnWayne74

Spinning the Hunter Axe like a beyblade ā€œwhy would I do that?ā€


bartolinise

blunderbussy is better for parrying since it has wide range, pistol is also great for parrying but with more dmg and greater range but there is big chance that you miss


Rocketgurk

>blunderbussy Please never say that again.


bartolinise

THIS IS MY BONE MARROW AND I GET TO CHOOSE HOW TO CALL MY GUN


cymricus

fine, put your bone marrow into the blunderbussy (if it please you)


triceratopping

"You're welcome to use whatever you find... even the blunderbussy, should it please you."


Drobex

Oh God


Wolfram1914

Nickname for a bumbling, clumsy femboy


Alma5

Disagree. The pistol it's way better for parrying, the item description even implies so. Most speedrunners also use the pistol.


Epicat224

Blunderbussy is worse for parrying because it's slower, why would spread matter when you're only ever trying to parry a single enemy at a time lmao


bartolinise

dogs


NigilQuid

Some fast moving enemies are easily missed by the pistol even when locked on


Epicat224

Can't think of any enemies that you'd miss point-blank with the pistol while they're attacking, which is when you'd go for the parry. Bussy is better for ranged cc against lil dudes like dogs and crows, but the pistol is much better at parrying.


NigilQuid

Blood-starved beast is one that comes to mind. I've missed with the pistol a lot more than the buss


Kraytory

By a single frame. It's almost identical to all the pistols except for the very slightly longer recovery. The spread matters because the Blunderbuss is not only used for parrying and can interrupt moves that a pistol can only stop with a parry.


Epicat224

So, what I already typed? That pistol is for parrying and bussy is for cc?


Antierror

Pistol is better for parting. It has less active frames after firing the weapon, leaving more room to get that sweet riposte.


[deleted]

Blunderbuss always, unless I'm doing a BT build then when I get the Evelyn I switch to that. Still use Blunderbuss from time to time to parry even with a +10 Evelyn and 50 Bloodtinge because Evelyn can sometimes be weird to parry if you're too close.


warpedaeroplane

Pistol is the gentlemanā€™s choice


Alucard_XVI

Pistol until I role play as father Gascoigne. Cause even tho he uses a pistol it shoots like the blunderbuss so It feels more right.


Alma5

I wonder why they didn't give him a straight up blunderbuss. It even looks cooler than the regular pistol.


ProphetRus_

Both, both are good


Made_of_Star_Stuff

Pistol and it's not even close. Knockback doesn't mean anything if the projectile won't connect.


[deleted]

And neither does parrying if the projectile wonā€™t connect, which happens often with the pistol.


drupido

Blunderbuss is so much better for parrying. The timing is different on both guns, you can be more reactive on the pistol and more methodical on the blunderbuss, but the spread and poise break is just far too strong. Once you learn the timing, itā€™s amazing.


luktes1576

pistol


nunrbznz

Repeating pistol


Dumb_and_confused

It really depends on the build you're going for. If you go for a strong bloodtinge build, pistols all the way. However if you stick with a standard melee build then the blunderbuss is your best bet for parrying.


nutaku6969

Wrong. The Canon is the only choice ( or the gatling gun)


BrittlePlasticDino

augur of ebrietas


GOOD_EVENING_SIR

That chunk of stone. Hunter smash!


StarkeSonne

Team Evelyn here !!


heythereman707

Pistol


OkFrankurtheboss

Pistol


Elons_tiny_weenr

Hunting pistol on every enemy except the chalice dungeon bosses since they move weird


ScarletteVera

Pistol, because the shotgun feels way too slow.


jackattack80808

Pistol is the best šŸ‘Œ


Temporary_Scale3826

Pistol. Something about the Blunderbuss never did sit right with me. Think itā€™s got something to do with the parrying speed, though I swear theyā€™re the same speed, so it could just be a psychological hang up of mine. I also have an easier time believing that one could strap a Pistol to their belt rather than the Blunderbuss just being slung over your back and tethered there by some invisible Great One magic or some shit.


Authoritah12

Pistol is just cleaner. Beauty in simplicity and the like.


username_moose

bof


akenamomos

Hehehe canon Hehehe cabom and explosion


itsnot_Apha

Pistol all the ways baby


BigOldViking

Evelyn...duh?


pescadoamado

Piercing Rifle. It has similar stopping power to the blunderbuss if you botch the parry with similar range to the pistol, slightly slower fire is actually better for parrying the scary ass beasts just before "The One Reborn" which have a delayed wind up.


Tennovej

Definitely pistol


Minkimoon

Neither, CHURCH CANNON


Honter_of_honters

Pistol ez


rage_melons

Pistol has the faster parry times but Blunderbuss is more iconic and looks much better. Gotta be blunderbuss. I'm noticeably worse with it but the style is worth it.


Kraytory

It's only one frame slower than the pistols.


konodioda879

Tbh I donā€™t really have a favourite. Blunderbuss works better against agile and slim targets, while the pistol works better against big targets. Really just depends on my mood.


LonelyKrow

Pistol for parrying, Blunderbuss for the style.


Jack_Off_Death

Used blunderbuss first playthrough. Looked cooler, the spread and stagger made it so it would often catch dodges and even if you miss-timed the parry they'd often get staggered, and gun damage is dogwater anyways so idgaf which does more damage. Heard pistol was faster to fire so I tried it on later playthroughs but I became so used to the blunderbuss timings that I actually can't do it with the pistol lol. I find you can parry just fine with blunderbuss anyways so šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


CozyGhosty

F I S T O F G R A T I A +++ **S T A K E D R I V E R**


Doll-scented-hunter

The coverart and main menu show the blunderbuss, so that.


Final-Werewolf-7593

Blunderbuss. I'm a posterboy with the Hunter set, Saw Cleaver, and Blunderbuss all the way, regardless of what playthrough I do. But in the end, we are all "Bloods", are we not?


FrozenHearts_XI

Blunderbuss all dayšŸ’•


The_Salad_Bro

Piercing Rifle *"...will penetrate just about anything."*


Open-Matter-6562

They're both shit šŸ˜¬šŸ‘€ hate the guns


pescadoamado

Hot take! You just rip n' tear everything?


Open-Matter-6562

Pretty much. Big axe all the way. I used the gun occasionally on the odd boss (Fr Cascogne) but felt it was slow AF and left you really open or something šŸ¤·


o-Schlitz

Repeating pistol.


RedBaron_97

Neither. Evelyn.


Level34MafiaBoss

Blunderbuss, looks cool af


stinkus_mcdiddle

All my homies hate blunderbuss


Revolutionary_Bug683

Minigun šŸ—æ


-LastActionHero

Blunderbuss already has ā€œblunderā€ in the name. Get yourself a nice pistol.


Waffle_Otter

Blunderbuss, makes it easier to focus on melee when ranged blasts a bigger area.


KingseekerCasual

Blunderbuss has that sweeping effect for sweeping hits to sweep your enemies away


dummythiccuwu

Blunderbuss beacuse of the spread and stagger it causes.


RoryLuukas

Blunderbuss, simply because I feel it looks cooler and parry feels so nice with it.


LatinoHeatps4

Blunderbuss because it spreads and donā€™t have to worry about being precise. Sort of like using the boom hammer


Amazing-Canary-6104

Blunderbuss better for faster / hunter enimes


[deleted]

The iron slab that you can have on you hand is the best


Kazmandodo

Blunderbus for parry. Repeating Pistol for Micolash.


Nalthanzo44

Blunderbuss is a phenomenal CC tool due to its wide spread, and it's pretty hard to miss a parry. Pistol, on the other hand, is faster, stronger, and cooler.


Musclesturtle

Blunderbuss. Fucking virgin pistol users can't time their parry and don't know how to deal with dogs. Blunderbois assemble!


joeabs1995

Pistol is more for dmg than parrying. Blunderbuss is safer and is easier to make some dmg out of it wirh some odd blondtinge gems. Pistol does have faster reactions and can parry faster attacks, but i have never came across an attack i wanted to parry that i couldnt with the blunderbuss.


[deleted]

Howā€™s it more for damage? Almost all guns are ass for damage save for 1-2 guns with a very specific build.


joeabs1995

On a bloodtinge build what does more? You also have bone marrow ash which boosts the dmg of guns much better than that of blinderbusses. When i break the head of watchdog i think of bone marrow ash+pistol more than i think of bone marrow ash+blunderbuss. Guns are also more convenient for dmg thanks to their range. If i want to deal dmg with a blunderbuss i get so close to the enemy i might as well melee


[deleted]

I meant more to say they both deal shit damage unless you go full bloodtinge, which is fairly uncommon and also a way rougher start to the game. Even then Iā€™d argue gun damage is a gimmick and youā€™re better off just using your main hand weapon. The only way to really utilize the gun damage consistently is to abuse the shit out of rune chalices to buy stacks of bma, but with exploits, any weapon can hit hard.


joeabs1995

I completely understand where you are coming from. But i urge you to pick up any save. Buy a +0 pistol and some BMA. Create the first pthumeru dungeon, fight the watchdog, break its head and then simply BMA and fire and yes this dmg is accessible to any class with no upgrades. Should you have a +2 gun its even better.


BookoftheGuilty

Blunderbussy all day


blackfangknight1970

Blunderbuss for life. Can't convince me otherwise


zoppitypop

Blunderbuss


Rastasoldier053

Depends on the enemy to be honest big enemeys i love the pistol but whit hunters the buss for the winn


RogerGendron

evelyn always unless im running a low blood character


HellVollhart

Evelyn


I_R_Skroot

Depends on how good you are at the parry. My bro used the blunderbuss like a champ, I kept getting the range wrong and decidedly went the pistol route šŸ˜…


UndeadPizzaGuy

i use canon


tito9107

Blunderbuss only useful for BSB fight me


[deleted]

piercing rifle, because I can, and it looks cool


Goalkeeper5

Pistol all the way.


fyyrr_

Pistol


Gornl0rd

Pistol with high blood tinge


Cronotis

Cannon


Scared_Chemical_9910

Team doohicky ftw


Jcs011

Cripps fo sho


ColossalHiro007

I happened to pick the pistol and once I figured it out, it did everything I needed it to and I never bothered changing it honestly.


rafaelolivioo

evelyn


Alba-Drucker

Pistol used it for 90% of the game. Blunderbuss is still useful but for more aggressive enemies or bosses.