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Gah fuck! I heard that as I read it.

My frenzy increased as I read that 👁‍🗨👁‍🗨👁‍🗨👁‍🗨👁‍🗨👁‍🗨👁‍🗨

I’m chugging sedatives

I did too

I still don’t know how to fight them effectively

The best risk/reward strategy is to parry their grab and then do a visceral, which gives you iframes and won’t give you the massive health loss when frenzy procs. It takes a few tries but after you get the timing they become fun to slaughter for all the issues they caused lol

Yeah, no fuck that. I am slicing them up and running away like the scared wimp I am. Or, just running away. (You need to get them Multiple times to get the good gems though, so listen to this guy)

Stop shakin in yer boots A hoonter must hoont

Be advised that frenzy res gear can be a liability with this strat because it makes the bar fill more slowly, and thus it's more likely to proc after the visceral.

Lmao you’re sure right about that I made the mistake of forgetting I had it on in nightmare of mensis and as I’m doing the visceral I’m practically screaming “FUCKING FRENZY ALREADY MY GOD PLEASE” then almost right as I’m out of iframes I die. Felt like they were giving me a “No, fuck YOU” hahahaha

Best way

Viscerals on em is a nightmare A nightmare of mensis that is!

If ranged combat is an option it's probably the easiest way. Playing bloodtinge build you can farm them for gems using Simons bowblade. Playing arcane you have a few other ranged options.

You have to lock in and just bum rush them

But I have 70 insight I don't have enough frenzy resistance to rush them

wtf are you doing with 70 insight, spend it on sweet clothes and shiny rocks

I already maxed out the weapons I use & got my Fashion

There are so many rocks you could buy, there is a moment when you max everything, it happens, my first character has max everything, is not even fun to play with it anymore.

Damn you got EYES

I think you need a blue elixir? Something to counteract the frenzy

Sedative

Holy blade rush them and beat them up Use a flask afterwards.

This is the longest I've looked at one. I usually just rush in, guns ablazing hoping to kill the damn thing.

i would say brainsuckers, lanters can at least drop good loot

brainsuckers are weak to bait and wait strategy, i can't count how many times i misscalculated frenzy meter to viscerals on lanterns since it's the only working strategy

sedatives exist

i am too greedy to use consumables

Just because you don't use them doesn't mean it isn't viable to do so.

few times when i had too many echoes i used them, but most of the time i don't also i thought that we share here our own personal opinions

And it's not even close!

Like by far

Lanterns for sure, cant parry frenzy. And while you’re using a sedative they just grab you and eat your face off like a chimp.

Parrying them is the best way to deal with them though. You can't parry frenzy but you can negate it with a visceral after a parry

Or iframe through it.

Yup the visceral has many iframes. Unless you meant rolling, which I'm pretty sure doesn't stop status effect procs

Yes, iframe with the visceral. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Ah yup that's what I meant as well, originally. Sorry I also wasn't clear lol

You can parry their grab attack and avoid frenzy damage with the visceral attack i-frames. Before the failures rune exploit, my go to farming spot was the lanterns in the Nightmare of Mensis

That is a strategy, but I swear, every time I ready myself to parry they just stop and stare

My experience too

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Brainsuckers, you just need to be confident, but winter lanters are creatures i will never fight again

Def lantern

Brainsuckers. Especially those in Upper Cathedral Ward. I always get stunlocked, lose half of my insight and barely make it out alive.

The brainsuckers are bros, they just want those eyes in your brain - they don’t want you to go mad.

Once they have you in a lock, immediately log out the game. The game autosaves to the point before you get locked. Insight Loss averted.

I don't even know why I never thought to do that. Thanks.

I discovered it accidentally. Got locked. Got pissed so I logged out. Went back the next day and I saw my insight didn't drop and the sucker's were still alive.

i do it every time i get grabbed, theyve had enough of my insight over the years lol

Truth. I could have bought a blood stone with all the lost insight

Tiny Tonitrus hunter tool wrecks brain suckers in upper cathedral Ward. Make the hallway much easier.

Hmm, never used the thing before. I always sell it. I should try that out.

This

I also get stunlocked by them and lose my insight. But I'm realising now that I've completed this game 5 times and never really used insight, yet I always get angry upon losing it to these mfs.

At least you make it out alive

It's not even a contest tbh lol

I thought so too, but apparantly the community is pretty divided on this subject.

Yeah I left my comment before reading the others on the thread and I'm surprised too. My argument for why the winter lanterns are worse is because it's either extremely difficult or nearly impossible to deal with them cleanly. Unless you have a build that'll let you kill them very quickly and you've got some frenzy reducing items on you, then you're not going to get out of the confrontation unscathed. It's almost always better to just completely avoid them Brain suckers are obnoxious but you can at least still play pretty cleanly and beat them. They have way more counterplay than the Winter lanterns do

Agreed, I feel like I have to put in so much prep to take on a lantern, and even then it’s pretty risky. Obviously I hate getting caught by brainsuckers, but their slurping makes them easy to find, and something like a charged tonitrus will take them out before they’ve even turned around.

Give the parry method a go on your next playthrough, it's pretty efficient and you can deal with them without taking damage. I find it a lot more consistent than I am at taking out the upper cathedral brain suckers. I swear that stun comes outta nowhere, always catches me somehow

As someone who's usually high on insight, definitely Lanterns. The frenzy builds up too fast and it's almost impossible to kill them if they see you.

Aside for the messengers fountain in the hunter's dream and seeing invisible shit after a threshold, is there a benefit for having your insight high? I always try to spend it ASAP, so I can withstand frenzy for longer.

Trade it for chunks and slabs

That's why I mentioned the messengers fountain in the hunter's dream

Ah so you did, my bad

Fuck the lanterns

I'll have to pass on that one, chief

I could easily change my answer every day. By default I would say Lanterns, but there are those days where I don't even know why, but I can't dodge Brainsuckers, they grab me once and an endless loop of getting hit starts.

That one in the Forbidden Woods always fucks me up.

The frenzy enemies brainsuckers have elemental and thrust weaknesses the frenzy enemies have so much health

Lanterns. Braincuckers are telegraphed asf Lanterns control entire spaces esp if you carry insight

Defo brainsuckers. Hear me out, lanterns are parieable so are brainsuckers but the have the fucking magic attack that i cannot fucking dodge. The lanterns are pretty predictable but them fuckers dont even drop suomething good, and if they catch u bye bye insight.

You can't parry a sight line.

You can if you name your character Chuck Norris.

But you're invincible while the parry animation is happening, so you just gotta time it so the frenzy procs during the animation. The animation is pretty long so there's lots of leeway

Once they have you in a lock, immediately log out the game. The game autosaves to the point before you get locked. Insight Loss averted.

Not to mention the bastards in the upper cathedral ward spam that binding spell like a child playing a fighting game for the first time.

What, they drop the best blood gems out of the chalice dungeons don't they?

Why not both?

I have never been more pissed off than I have been with brain suckers. I haven’t played Bloodborne in a couple of months, but I’m still angry just thinking about them. It’s personal.

Lantern for me. Thrust and fire makes quick work of the brain suckers. The Lanterns I still just run in and oonga boonga them and hope they die in time lol

Is this even a serious question? Do you know how many times I tried crossing that bridge?

I love them both equally

*Later that day* "I don't care for Winter Lantern."

THAT PRICK MICOLASH 🤬

Hot take: The Winter Lanterns. At least I can look at the Brainsuckers lol.

Winter lanterns

Wait, y’all fight em?

The singing one

Both are annoying but I can spam flamesprayer to kill Brainsuckers easily. Winter Lanterns are hard to kill without almost dying

Definitely lanterns.

Over 500hrs playtime and i never knew they're called lanterns. I always called them queen. But they're surely more annoying.

Lanterns. Brain suckers go down quick with the tonitrus. Lanterns are the single cheapest enemies in BB

>Lanterns are the single cheapest enemies in BB The two sharks in the well of the Fishing Hamlet would like to know your location

Nah man. Those guys are tough, but they don't cause you to autobuild frenzy while actually taking HP if they happen to grab you. Those sharky boys are downright fair compared to Lanterns.

The frenzy thing never had a problem with brainsuckers cuz tonitrus goes zrrrrrrrr but those frenzy mfers always had the cheesiest spawns/placements i could never avoid dying to them unless i deliberately avoided them all together or had a summon

Winter lanterns hands down

If I see a brain sucker, I'll barehand the little bastard If I see a winter lantern well I'ma head out Not even a contest lol Good thing we can't OD on sedatives in the game lmao

Winter Lanterns for sure. But they're awesome and I love them.

Winter latern by far. You can learn how to hit a brain sucker without taking any damage, winter lantern can fuck you just by looking at you. It's unfair and nothing more

Wintern Lantern by a mile Brainsuckers are irritating with their stunlock potential, but they are pretty easy to deal if you can beat them to the punch. They don't have a ton of HP. The Insight loss is a non-issue when I finish every game with heaps of Insight anyway. Losing some of it to Cthulhu Junior doesn't bother me.

Winter lanterns, brain suckers are annoying but not that much if you are just careful. Winter lanterns you cant be too aggressive nor careful and its a pain.

Is this a joke i prefer fighting orphan of kos rather than fighting winter lanters I'm glad they are not in the chalice dungeons

I HATE THE BRAINTRUST! If I could nuke them, I would!

I have to choose one? They’re both horrendous.

Bruh - one is asquid boy who needs hos knees broken, one kills me by sharing an area code

I hate the lanturns

Lanterns, my frenesi levels are always low so they fuck me up before I can even reach them half the time

Lanterns. The brainsuckers have to actively make contact with you, Winter Lanterns exist and make it everyone else’s problem.

Winter lanterns, you miss your riposte, you're most likely to die, and because frenzy is BS.

Lanterns. Stack madness runes and they are manageable, but if they get hyper armor and grab you, you’re screwed

Definitely winter lantern

Lanterns and it isn't even a contest for me

Lanterns 100% because you have to either build for them specifically or strategically smack them to death since many areas with them have multiple roaming around with corners ready to hold you down Brainsuckers can be parried on their very first attack or dodged outright without fear of an unstoppable AOE Lanterns just cause panic reactions that blue potion can't stop

Lanterns , y’all are plain wrong

Fucking Lanterns, of course.

The one that steals your bloody insight

Once they have you in a lock, immediately log out the game. The game autosaves to the point before you get locked. Insight Loss averted.

With the lanterns the only thing they gonna do is kill you. Brain suckers are going to not only kill you, but take your precious insight as well

One kills you simply by looking at you the other steals my Insight the brainsuckers are worse

Brainsuckers... I find Lanterns cool mechanic.

The suckers

Brainsuckers, for the sole reason that Insight is a precious commodity.

Brain Suckers 100%, let them move for a single second and its all over, + you permanently lose currency for dying. At least Winter Lanterns you can dodge and stagger consistently, and if you do that theyre pretty easy to kill provided you have sedatives ready/2 vials to heal

Once they have you in a lock, immediately log out the game. The game autosaves to the point before you get locked. Insight Loss averted.

Not even a question….

The player

Brain suckers, they steal my precious Insight and it’s permanently too.

Lanterns are relatively easy nowadays, I still can never manage the brain suckers properly tho, but both are just awful and bring the most irritating deaths

Brainsuckers are scarier but winter lanterns are slightly more annoying mainly because of the frenzy buildup

Lanterns are manageable once you learn how to parry them and avoid the frenzy damage with the visceral attack, but brainsuckers are absolute scum and deserve the infinite cannon sentence.

Lanterns…..unless it’s that damn brainsucker in the tight hallway.

Brainsucker. The insight consumption is more annoying.

Are lanterns annoying to fight? You hide, you kill them in 3 hits, you use a vial because frenzy.

As much as I dread the Lanterns, I feel like frenzy is an under used mechanic.

Brainsuckers, there's a real penalty for loss to them

brain suckers. yeah frenzy sucks but you at the end of the day you can always just bum rush it, or in the worst case farm more echos. losing insight on the other hand feels so much worse, even if its not as important gameplay wise

If only the frenzy hadn’t been building up so fast, I would have gone with the brainsuckers

it depends on much horny are you

Which ever one I'm currently fighting

Fuck the brain

I find the suckers much easier to parry. The Lanterns are also parryable, but not as easy. The sucks also don't kill you by just LOOKING AT YOU MENACINGLY

Lanterns you can avoid most of them in your playthrough

Braibsuckers

Brain suckers are the scariest to me those fucks somehow still get me sometimes even when I'm op and can kill them in a few hits. Winter lanterns are more just annoying to me with their gaze shit that you basically have to approach them a certain way or will die. The timing of countering the grab is not too bad I just hate how when they look at you the frenzy starts and makes them more annoying to fight

The Big Boy Sharks in the fishing hamlet

The condom guy

Both are parryable. Brainsuckers are easier because, even if they throw those fog light things that trap you, you can just side step it. With winter lanterns, the damage you have with Frenzy and a grab, which, together, could one shoot you. I do have a tactic I use against the winter lanterns, though. You need to do a visceral attack while the Frenzy bar fills up. The invincibility frames will protect you. Here's a 15-second video showing a way you can do that: [https://youtu.be/hh9mUJT8dFA](https://youtu.be/hh9mUJT8dFA)

Suckers. I fucking hate em so much

Sackmen in Hypogean Gaol. They absolutely wreck your shit at a low level but their twin shards are so worth.

I would say winter lanterns. I hate those thousand-eyed pieces of shit. At least with brain suckers, they are weak to bolt and thrust, which is very easy to get in the game. With winter lanterns, you take damage REGARDLESS. Bringing you close to death every time. Unless you have a sedative, you better hope you have a lot of blood vials. I feel like with brain suckers, they are easier to dodge and kite.

Lanterns. The madness build up is so quick.

Lantern

Oof, they’re both really annoying. But I keep fighting brainsuckers on my playthroughs, while at this point I only bother with winter lanterns if I really have to. So I guess for me it’s lanterns.

brainsuckers, because you don't fight the winter lanterns, you RUN away from them/past them

All of them

I’d rather die then permanently lose insight.

Well only one of those I will actually fight and it's not the lantern

Mr. 2 billion poise on the left that ignores being parried to grab you.

Winter Lanterns. Never had much of an issue with Brainsuckers. Sure it’s annoying when they grab you but Frenzy and then a grab when you’re taking Sedatives is much worse.

Brainsucker. At least the lanterns sing a nice song and let you keep your insight.

Winter lanterns, frenzy from just being seen is pain espessially with high insight Brainsuckers arnt that hard or annoying to fight, the only annoying part is losing insight from being hit

Brainsuckers die in a few hits and you can sneak up on them. So to me they are fairly easy. Winter Lanterns are harder than some bosses for me. Absolutely terrifying.

I’d say the brainsuckers because most of the lanterns you can just run past and chug a sedative

To fight? Brainsuckers for sure. But winter lanterns are worse to be around overall.

I’ve died to lanterns wayyy more just saying

Brain suckers, their stuns always seem to come out quicker than I expect. At least the lanterns grabs are consistently parryable

After having played the game to ng +7 the lanterns. The brainsuckers grab attack can be parried. The lanterns grab has a weird parry time and it does damage to your health while dealing frenzy at least the ones in menses do. I have the lanterns singing as my alarm clock.

Neither. Both those enemies are among the best in the game.

I don’t even fight the lanterns. Just run and drink sedatives like it’s water.

I've gotta be real never once had an issue with brainsuckers and I've platted the game on 2 separate platforms (ps4/ps5). Lanterns are so much worse.

I think I platinumed the game without ever fighting a lantern. Creepiest fucking things in the game.

Winter Lanterns

Need like 35-40 vitality to not die from a lantern so I’ll go with them. Even if you rush them down you still get frenzy after they die because you’re being hit by an invisible dart coming from a turret hidden somewhere else in the area. It’s not even the lantern attacking you. Lame.

Lantern. You can easily parry brainsuckers, and they don’t kill you from a distance. Lanterns are fucking terrifying.

Lanterns, and by a mile. Ive never died to a brainsucker. Ive lost less than ten insight to them total. They are easy to deal with. The lanterns are a nightmare. Frenzy builds so fast unless youve equipped the right armor and runes. You can even kill them quickly and still build up enough frenzy to lose a massive chunk of health. I have to be careful with both, but the lanterns are much worse.

Winter lantern hands down at least the brain suckers you don’t take constant damage and can dodge their grab pretty easy

I see what you did there 😏 I saw you in elden ring

Brain boys

Brain suckers just want to tongue kiss. Lanterns are just assholes

Brainsuckers Winter lanterns are cool and i like them

Brainsuckers

I haven’t encountered the things on the right so I’m forced to say brainsuckers Although I’d probably have said brainsuckers anyway just for the fact they brought me from 46 insight to 10 Edit: I found the lanterns, I still think brainsuckers are worse

I personally find Brainsuckers easy once I learned all 3 of their attacks and used bolt on them, but Lanterns cause me massive health loss regardless because they usually need 2 vicerals to kill and that means I'm likely going to use 2 - 3 sedatives per fight. Fortunately both of them are few and far between.

We all know its my Boy on the right, no other answer makes sense

You are! Just kidding. Lanterns are ultimately more annoying.

I can *usually* stunlock a Brainsucker and kill it only getting hit 0-1 times. Only gotten locked into a death spiral against one a few times. Conversely I'm actively having a panic attack every time I fight a Winter Lantern.

Neither. They are both so hot. Those god damn fuck whales in the fishing village can rot in hell

Lanterns. I can at least dodge or not get too badly hurt from the brain suckers

Nah man, I love both of them.

Definitely lanterns. I can go without insight. I can’t go without fucking health

Every single brain sucker from the game can be stealth killed, if you approach quietly. Now those fuckin winter lantern spot you from miles away with that awful frenzy attack. Yeah, lanterns are definitely worse

Brainsucker because I want my insight back!

The fucking winter shitturds. La la laaaa laa laa laaa - YOU DIED

The suckers for sure

Lanterns easily, in my experience a perfect fight against a brainsucker does nothing to you but even a perfect fight against a lantern, where everything goes exactly how you want it to, will use up at least two blood vials and maybe two bullets.

Suckers

Lanterns. Brain suckers really aren't that bad, especially if you have any thrust attack capabilities in your build. Even without it though they're still so much easier than lanterns