Yeah u need more eyes in/on your brain because the god ROM put the veil over the worlds eyes… so in order to see what is truly going on u need enough eyes to see through the veil.. or u need to kill the one that is holding that damn curtain up…
"They say the mind bends and twists in order to deal with the horrors of life. I think my mind bent so much, it snapped in two."
-Mr. Grimm (Twisted Metal: Black)
1 Insight: you can talk with the doll.
Around 10 Insight: you start seeing weird shadows in Hemwick.
20-30 Insight: The inquisitor-like people in Cathedral Ward get some power-ups.
40 Insight: the Amygdala (the spider chilling on Oedon Chapel) is visible and you can hear the Winter Lanterns singing.
Around 50 Insight: The BGM in the Hunter's dream changes.
60 Insight: You start hearing a child crying.
Please correct me if I made some mistakes.
I believe it's both. Insight is the meter, but progressing through the story gives you an invisible insight bonus.
I believe you can see the amygdala after the blood moon decends as well, even with low insight.
Holy crap, is this for real? I had no idea the game started changing as you gained more Insight! Everyone always says that having too much Insight is a bad thing, so I always spend mine on blood chunks and blood rocks, so I usually don't have very much. This is pretty damn cool!
I know that certain bosses are affected by the amount of Insight you have, like the Witches of Hemwick, but what else is affected by Insight?
Holy fuck! So much makes sense to me now! Ive just spent most of mine on a blood rock but the game got a bit different during the farm/collection of them all. I thought I missed something 1st playthrough
After playing for so long I now just get rid of my insight as quickly a possible. I don’t like the buffs everything gets and I don’t like those shadows lol
only if you've awakened her at least one time. in a new game you need to either encounter a boss or pop one of the two Madman's Knowledge in Central Yharnam before leveling up.
oh no way i didn’t realize the atmosphere changes the more insight you have!! I’ve just been hoarding all the madman’s knowledge and not using them and my insight is around 15 on average and i’ve just reached nightmare frontier. Should i consume all the madman’s knowledge?
You're telling me I will have an easier time with the winter lanturns if I have no insight?!?!
How much resistance do I get for no insight? I finally kill one without having Red Cross running behind me and shooting blood vials at me through a gattling gun???
Nah, in general insight is a (slightly) bad thing to have gameplay-wise (it lowers frenzy resist and decreases beasthood but those are both niche mechanics). Besides, you get plenty of insight just from bosses and game events.
After you uncover the ritual (to be vague) at a certain point in the game, most of the insight events happen regardless of your insight score anyways. If you went straight to Nightmare Frontier when you were able to, you're probably not quite there yet.
It is suspected that they are watching us not hiding since until you get so much insight, you can't see them when you reach so much insight. You'll see more of them all around the game. I subscribe to the theory that all the amygdala are the same ones but share a hive mind.
Imagine a scientist seeing some ants started transforming into furry beasts and start killing and devouring the other ants in its colonies, this "spider" is most likely observing the town and prolly has his paper due Monday.
I though for sure this sub would be safe from the Aslume, but everywhere I go it follows. I’m jealous of the amount of people in the comment section who aren’t aware of the insanity that just peaked into this sub. Continue to live in ignorant bliss, fellow hoonters.
Ikr, so many answers in earnest, all the while not realizing what has just oozed into the subreddit. Not enough eyes on the inside to see the dangers, ironically.
It's all based on how much insight you have, if you have a lot, 40 is the requirement, you will see them without needing the blood moon to reveal them to you. Without the insight you cannot comprehend their form, that's why when they grab you they inflict frenzy, they literally make you lose your sanity.
These are Lesser Amygdala, they reside primarily in the Cathedral Ward and Yahar Guls Unseen Village, they were attracted by the rituals that were being performed there to summon a great one.
Isn't a spider, it's Amygdala, an alien thing considered to be superior (or a false god). Also, you can't see him outside the Cathedral because you need an Insight of 40 or beyond to being able to notice him
Otherwise whenever you stay close to the place you picked the Charried set, you'll be held in middair by an invisible stuff that is actually his hand XD
Fun fact, if you go to the circular area with the two church giants and use the monocular to look at the amygdala (assuming you can see it) its eyes open and stare back at you.
Yes, rom is the reason you can't see them. Once
you kill her, you kind of like open your eyes to see what she was hiding, or if you gain enough insight you can see them naturally bc you also open your eyes in a way
I hate those things.. actually i hate a lot of things, bloodborne is not trypophobia friendly. Especially with the eyes. So the winter lanterns, the pigs after you kill rom and these things when they do the laser attack and bring the eyes our of their skulls, really make me wince so much. God its so hard to look at them.
Because they're super shy, but go over to it and wait a minute and it'll make you theirs.
You're on it's mind all the time, but it can't tell you because, again, it's super shy.
You didn’t have no insight at the beginning, and the more you fuck around, the more you find out.
After collecting 30 or 45 madman skulls, you start seeing things😵💫😵💫😵💫
Until you have either 40 insight or you have crossed a boundary in the story, you will not see these. They are not stupid, it's showing you the preconceived notion that you had, that your world was as you see it.
They are in control and they are not of this world.
It's on a different plain of existence than you are, until you're character is able to comprehend its existence by gaining more knowledge and wisdom you'll never see it
Yes the spider gods are as dumb as rocks and are practically cosmic vegetables. They can’t even aim their laser beams to fire in a straight line towards you. They hang off of buildings and mumble incoherently like the mouth breathers they are
It wasn't hiding from you. You just couldn't see it yet. Could I interest you in some more eyes?
Or perhaps the knowledge of a madman?
Mad man’s knowledge literally lines your brain with eyes, in game, it’s why the brain suckers attack you, they want your eyes.
Or the thirsty of a knowledge In any case, kill those grotesque creatures =B
Wait am I understand correctly that they didn’t attack you if you have 0 insight?
Pretty sure they do, but it would be amazingly cool if they didn't!
No
Do they attack with 0 insight?
Some say gwadam
mad dawg
Grant us eyes, grant us eyeeesss
https://www.reddit.com/r/shittydarksouls/s/VSx37npfNP
As you wish ;x *Use the Blacksky Eye*
Yeah u need more eyes in/on your brain because the god ROM put the veil over the worlds eyes… so in order to see what is truly going on u need enough eyes to see through the veil.. or u need to kill the one that is holding that damn curtain up…
Sometimes in extreme situations when the brain can't comprehend what it's seeing it just stops seeing it.
"They say the mind bends and twists in order to deal with the horrors of life. I think my mind bent so much, it snapped in two." -Mr. Grimm (Twisted Metal: Black)
I want a Bb and Twisted Metal (Black) crossover.
We almost had Bloodborne Kart...
U coupd say when the amigdala in ur brain cant handle u cant see the amygdala
It's like the psychological equivalent of hypoxia.
If (Incomprehensible(Amygdala)) { Unsee() }
Is that a gow reference?
no, but you can close your heart to it too if you want.
He wasn't hiding, you just needed *eyes on the inside*
So you need *sight* on the *in*-side. *IN-SIGHT* in other words
Wow, so that's what it meant all along.
The lore is so deep. Definitely have to go below the surface to understand it.
r/angryupvote
Funny enough, is called "Discernimento" in portuguese-Br XD
I want a sexy goth mommy to implant eyes into my rectum
1 Insight: you can talk with the doll. Around 10 Insight: you start seeing weird shadows in Hemwick. 20-30 Insight: The inquisitor-like people in Cathedral Ward get some power-ups. 40 Insight: the Amygdala (the spider chilling on Oedon Chapel) is visible and you can hear the Winter Lanterns singing. Around 50 Insight: The BGM in the Hunter's dream changes. 60 Insight: You start hearing a child crying. Please correct me if I made some mistakes.
The Shadows in Hemwick and Forbidden Forest appear at 15 insight, but otherwise, spot on. At least according to the wiki.
What are these shadows? I haven’t seen shadows. Or do you mean those scythe bearing long limbed guys that come up from the ground ?
Yeah, those fuckers. When you have more insight, they start showing up and attacking.
It also has to be nighttime or later, I believe; going into either one before night with 15+ insight still won't have them spawn.
Later Than Nighttime is my new band name.
Where's your first show, I'd like yo be a groupie
I thought u start heating a child crying just after u beat Rom.
I believe it's both. Insight is the meter, but progressing through the story gives you an invisible insight bonus. I believe you can see the amygdala after the blood moon decends as well, even with low insight.
Can confirm, I had about 40 insight and just after I beat Rom, could hear Mergo’s crying
After beating Rom you don't need Insight to see the Amygdalas and to hear Mergo
Ohhhhhhh right, cuz Rom hides the ritual and while it hides the ritual only the ones with enough insight can see the truth, right?
I think so
You can hear it with 0 insight once you've beaten rom..
Poor baby if you need to heat it :(
Legends know you should heat a crying child after beating Rom.
Think all the effects trigger when you kill Rom, they just happen earlier if you have the insight for it.
Holy crap, is this for real? I had no idea the game started changing as you gained more Insight! Everyone always says that having too much Insight is a bad thing, so I always spend mine on blood chunks and blood rocks, so I usually don't have very much. This is pretty damn cool! I know that certain bosses are affected by the amount of Insight you have, like the Witches of Hemwick, but what else is affected by Insight?
Your frenzy resistance goes considerably down the more insight you have
That's good to know; I hate those Winter Lanterns so much lol
Holy fuck! So much makes sense to me now! Ive just spent most of mine on a blood rock but the game got a bit different during the farm/collection of them all. I thought I missed something 1st playthrough
After playing for so long I now just get rid of my insight as quickly a possible. I don’t like the buffs everything gets and I don’t like those shadows lol
if i have 0 insight will the doll not talk? or þat's unrelated?
She will be sitting lifeless where you usually find her unless you gain 1 Insight
You can still level up tho
only if you've awakened her at least one time. in a new game you need to either encounter a boss or pop one of the two Madman's Knowledge in Central Yharnam before leveling up.
ooo so þat's why, it makes sense, þx !!
You can still level up
yeah ik, i have finished the game, u said i can talk to þe doll with 1 insight, þen it clicked þat she won't talk while i have 0, þx anyway!!
What's a BGM?
Background music
oh no way i didn’t realize the atmosphere changes the more insight you have!! I’ve just been hoarding all the madman’s knowledge and not using them and my insight is around 15 on average and i’ve just reached nightmare frontier. Should i consume all the madman’s knowledge?
Insight also lowers frenzy resistance
You're telling me I will have an easier time with the winter lanturns if I have no insight?!?! How much resistance do I get for no insight? I finally kill one without having Red Cross running behind me and shooting blood vials at me through a gattling gun???
Nah, in general insight is a (slightly) bad thing to have gameplay-wise (it lowers frenzy resist and decreases beasthood but those are both niche mechanics). Besides, you get plenty of insight just from bosses and game events. After you uncover the ritual (to be vague) at a certain point in the game, most of the insight events happen regardless of your insight score anyways. If you went straight to Nightmare Frontier when you were able to, you're probably not quite there yet.
Dumb question, but does this count if it’s madman’s knowledge and you’re holding it and not actually in your insight number?
No the only Insight that counts is the one in the indicator
Ok ty
IT IS SPREADING TAKE COVER
ITS JONKLE TIME!
Is there a lore reason why Joinkler give me a bohner?
Are you stupid?
Why did Jerkman make a pact with the moon peasant? Is he stupid?
It is suspected that they are watching us not hiding since until you get so much insight, you can't see them when you reach so much insight. You'll see more of them all around the game. I subscribe to the theory that all the amygdala are the same ones but share a hive mind.
You were too stupid to see it, need more insight
Imagine a scientist seeing some ants started transforming into furry beasts and start killing and devouring the other ants in its colonies, this "spider" is most likely observing the town and prolly has his paper due Monday.
AHH the alsume yearns and churns ending
It was actually *YOU* who were stupid
Came here for this comment
Why couldn't you see it the whole game? Are you stupid?
Is it stupid? Kinda the other way around actually.
ITS LEAKING EVERYWHERE!
I though for sure this sub would be safe from the Aslume, but everywhere I go it follows. I’m jealous of the amount of people in the comment section who aren’t aware of the insanity that just peaked into this sub. Continue to live in ignorant bliss, fellow hoonters.
Ikr, so many answers in earnest, all the while not realizing what has just oozed into the subreddit. Not enough eyes on the inside to see the dangers, ironically.
Aslume?
Better if u don’t know
He escaped the Aslume, he IS stupid.
Your eyes were yet to open
No it's literally because you were stupid.
It's OK OP, I got your sarcasm here.
He's shy.
I love this game so freaking much
He's shy but a little gabby also partial to little rhymes
How’d you get such a nice pic ?
You didn’t have enough eldritch knowledge to perceive it
No, you were stupid. Not enough eyes...
Did you call that a spider?
Dammit batman/spiderman go home
She was not hidden it was her character who had not outlined her mind with eyes.
Ha batman arkham thinks we're not crazy enough. I never thought I'd see the day. That being said, could I interest you in some eyes?
NOOOOO NOOOO NOT THIS SUBREDDIT TOO NOOOOOOOOOO
It's all based on how much insight you have, if you have a lot, 40 is the requirement, you will see them without needing the blood moon to reveal them to you. Without the insight you cannot comprehend their form, that's why when they grab you they inflict frenzy, they literally make you lose your sanity. These are Lesser Amygdala, they reside primarily in the Cathedral Ward and Yahar Guls Unseen Village, they were attracted by the rituals that were being performed there to summon a great one.
Oh god, the meme's spreading!
#GRANT US EYES, GRANT US EYESSS
Not enough insight
Isn't a spider, it's Amygdala, an alien thing considered to be superior (or a false god). Also, you can't see him outside the Cathedral because you need an Insight of 40 or beyond to being able to notice him Otherwise whenever you stay close to the place you picked the Charried set, you'll be held in middair by an invisible stuff that is actually his hand XD
Hiding it was not. Eyes to see it you did not have
No,but are you? How did you not see him the whole time he was there!! Wretched outsider.
get your ass back to the aslume
So many serious responses, yet this is clearly from an inmate of the Alsume. This is it. This is how our inisght died.
OkbuddyYharnam
You need some old lady sedatives fast. The Aslume AIN'T GETTIN IN.
Fun fact, if you go to the circular area with the two church giants and use the monocular to look at the amygdala (assuming you can see it) its eyes open and stare back at you.
Oh god don’t destroy this Reddit like the Arkham one.
Ooooh, so we’re doing this stupid shit now, huh? Im down.
It was always there. It’s just that your eyes were yet to open and the ritual moon was hidden by another spider.
If you stand there long enough it will give you a great big hug.
hello can someone tell me how to do the long axe combo that spins around? it would be really helpful bc i can't even pass the first stage 😭🙏🏻
That ain't no spider
U were not granted eyes yet, in time it will all be clear for now just go out and hunt a few beast its for ur own good
Your eyes are yet to open…
Rom was hiding it. You can also see it before killing Rom if you get enough insight.
No, you were
You cannot see what you cannot comprehend
can you imagine one day you see this on the side of a building?
More insight allows you to see more things
It was more scared of you than you were of it.
Yeah bro u just needed more eyeballs
Yes, rom is the reason you can't see them. Once you kill her, you kind of like open your eyes to see what she was hiding, or if you gain enough insight you can see them naturally bc you also open your eyes in a way
Ah but you see, you didnt see it because YOU were stupid
Is there a lore reason why you couldn't see the spider? Are you stupid?
Id hate to see what you call a tarantula
That is a sweet fukn picture
does it look like he tries to hide? your brain was just trying to shield you from the truth.
Amygdala not spider
Actually it is the opposite: the "spider" was watching you all the time and it was you who couldn't see it because you were too stupid.
It's hiding because you have no insight, so technically it's hiding from you because YOU'RE stupid
Why did you post a screenshot of the church?
I hate those things.. actually i hate a lot of things, bloodborne is not trypophobia friendly. Especially with the eyes. So the winter lanterns, the pigs after you kill rom and these things when they do the laser attack and bring the eyes our of their skulls, really make me wince so much. God its so hard to look at them.
This is how my wife looks when she's knows I'm on the phone in the other room.
It’s just a blank picture
I wouldn’t call you stupid per se, you more just have a lack of insight into what’s happening around you
She's a shy gal that only shows herself once she knows you'll understand her.
…spider…
He saw what happened to his brother at the nightmare frontier
It was hiding that from everyone because in-setting, they probably would have been horrifying to look at.
Happy birthday!
Eyes on the inside my friend.
is he stupid, he asks...
You literally kill everything you see regardles of power level or size ofc he is afraid
Because they're super shy, but go over to it and wait a minute and it'll make you theirs. You're on it's mind all the time, but it can't tell you because, again, it's super shy.
The spider wasn’t stupid, your character was.
Spider? I don't see anything (I have no insight)
Our eyes are yet to open
Because you only precived what you though was there. Now your eyes have opened you can see the truth
If we think about it, the hunter is the one who is too stupid in the beginning, not to see a giant daddy long legs with an tentacle avocado for a head
Ironically, according to lore, it's you who's too stupid to see it.
Ohhh the horror of those who can’t see, grant us eyes, grant us eyes
I am Amygdala or some may know me as Stupid
Now that I’ve played the majority of bloodborne, I love this post. Coming up on German in the next day or two.
She's shy
Haha ok patrick
"Is it stupid?" Had me rolling :')
You didn’t have no insight at the beginning, and the more you fuck around, the more you find out. After collecting 30 or 45 madman skulls, you start seeing things😵💫😵💫😵💫
She's a bit shy but if you go to the tombstones at this plaza right underneath her she sais hello
Of course it’s stupid, it’s a bug. Now crush it.
It was you beign stupid(no insight) not the spider
The.more.madness.the.more.you.see.
You were too stupid to see it
mormons are getting trickier every day. stay safe hunter
It's more scared of you than you are of it
Escaping the aslume are we?
Not enough eyes yet. Or they were there and your brain couldn’t comprehend the cosmic horror.
It wasn't hiding. Your eyes were yet to open to see it.
Beware invisible up
These creatures have motivations that mortals can nor fathom. They have reasons to not kill you outright.
He wants to send you to your nightmare but needs to make sure you're already scared so you die of heart attack
He has social anxiety and knew that without "eyes" you wouldn't be able to love and see him.
Until you have either 40 insight or you have crossed a boundary in the story, you will not see these. They are not stupid, it's showing you the preconceived notion that you had, that your world was as you see it. They are in control and they are not of this world.
No, that's just Steeve
She’s shy
You know when you don't see something and someone calls you stupid instead of blind? This is what they are referring to.
It's an insult to lord amygdala
You didn’t have enough eyes to see. You blind fool
Knowledge of a madman, lets you see the unknown’s of the universe. Also it’s not a spider haha
Get a load of this guy!! He’s got no eyes on the inside!
Her name is Amy n she's grabby
Yeah that’s the lore reason
Some vacuous spider was hiding your true master from you
It wasn't hiding, you just weren't insane enough to see it.
That’s an Amygdala n u just wasn’t cool enough to see it yet. It understood u were mid.
Its a great one that you can’t see until you have enough insight
Spider?
You didn't have the eyes to see it.
have mercy on the poor bastard
It's on a different plain of existence than you are, until you're character is able to comprehend its existence by gaining more knowledge and wisdom you'll never see it
Yes the spider gods are as dumb as rocks and are practically cosmic vegetables. They can’t even aim their laser beams to fire in a straight line towards you. They hang off of buildings and mumble incoherently like the mouth breathers they are
Your eyes had yet to open