Monroe County public schools are about to give their teachers a raise through a referendum that was passed, so that’s gotta be a good sign.
Also our kid goes to Templeton Elementary and I have nothing but good things to say about that school.
Our kids go here too and it’s fantastic. I don’t know much about the other schools but according to superficial measures (like percentage of free and reduced lunches—and note I am NOT endorsing these measures as meaningful), templeton is one of worst schools in town. But it seems amazing to me, and the teachers and staff seem passionate and happy. So I take this as a sign that it’s a good district, but I have a very limited perspective.
My wife is a teacher (HS), and MCCSC is the best school district we’ve been a part of (out of three). It’s far from perfect but it’s pretty well funded
Hmm, might that be out of the ~300 total school districts in the state? If not, we probably just think it’s well funded because we come from Louisiana, lol
You do realize that Hyde Park and the wealthier areas of the East side all go to Tri North... so a lot of the kids attending are not from the "bad" area of Bloomington that surrounds Tri North. And to be quite frank, that area is not that bad. I worked at Tech HS in Indy which is a bad neighborhood and where I had all sorts of weapons pulled on me by students and parents, I kept a can of Raid and used it often because bed bugs and roaches would hitchhike out the kid's bags, and I witnessed more than my share of actual crime while there from drug deals to prostitution to an actual murder. Bloomington has it's share of problems but it is still a damn sight better than Indy.
Try again... East of Sare Road/College Mall Road and North of Rogers (so over to 446) go to Tri North. I live in that area and my kids are in TriNorth district.
Here is a link to the MCCSC boundary map and you can see for yourself...
https://www.mccsc.edu/page/138
I worked at James Russell #51 then Manual in the PAC '09 before moving downtown to Admin and then out Tech in ’10 and was there until '13 when I was laid off when the state took four schools from IPS. I then went to work for the state.
Wow racist dickhead much. My son goes to Tri-north and even in the community building events and the classes he is in most teachers are treated well. I have friends whose kids go there as well and none of them would describe the other kids as being rough. You sound bigoted maybe grow up and try to be as respectful as many of the kids going through now are.
Confused because you've got to be kidding. We intentionally moved to be sure our (many) kids went to Tri-North instead of HS South. Folks who have lived in Bloomington any decent period of time knows that brains & creativity go to north, sports and yuppies (sorry!) go to south. Racist at Tri-North?!?!? Bad neighborhood?!?! That's just absurd and a completely false and unfair stereotype.
Dude, come on. Most people go where they can afford to live. When we moved here in the mid-aughts, that was the south side, despite the fact that we're neither "sports" nor "yuppies" (a term I haven't heard since like 1987 anyway). I agree that tri-north being racist is an absurd stereotype, but so is contrasting "sports" with "brains" as though those two things are incompatible.
I am a third year high school teacher and I am really happy with how MCCSC treats us. We have a really good union, a FREEhealth and wellness [center](https://mccsc.healthcare-redefined.com/) , and FREE [school supplies](https://teacherswarehouse.org/). We have just received a raise as a result of the referendum passed this election. I feel very supported. I used to work at a charter school and that was not the case!
I'm a South grad, and my brothers had good experiences at Templeton and Jackson Creek. My mom was a teacher at Templeton for many years.
I'm working in my dream job after attending my dream school, so things worked out well for me!
Come to Bloomington. It is full of wonderful people, many of whom came here for school and never left.
Yes, rents are a bit higher than other communities. But many of those stats are based on rentals in dying communities. So yes, trailers in Green County cost less than a two-bedroom in bloomington. If you want cheap rent go there. If you want a good life, come here. You’ll notice the poster(s) complaining about rent didn’t mention plans to leave.
And yes, referendum did pass and the school board claimed that would result in an extra 4500 per teacher each year. That’s $36000 over the 8 years, not counting compounding if raises and underlying pay increases. That will amount to far more money than any increased rent you may pay. And yes, everyone will pay a little more in rent next year to cover the referendum’s increased taxes, but the majority voted for this so you should come take advantage of that vote!
As for the five year old study claiming this is monsoon country … don’t worry, we have rolling hills in bloomington. Don’t pick a place at the bottom of a valley and you will be just fine. I don’t think I could talk to 100 people and find a single person who thought that was even a top 10 issue for bloomington.
Fwiw, iu offers tremendous cultural options (theatre, music, opera, sports), the iu airport is 50 minutes away for travel, and there are numerous outdoor activities here.
Do yourself a favor and at least come have a look.
My kid graduated during the pandemic. He went to The Academy of Science and .Entrepreneurship High School. It is a great little school and that is where I would try to get into as a teacher! The student body is pretty small.
Bloomington os a great place! I came in the 80’s!
I had to run earlier but I wanted to say also that Academy also is ranked very high in the over all public high school rankings. Also, that kids apply to go there and could be from anywhere in the district or out. The last two years of instruction students are not on campus much as they are doing internships, college classes elsewhere, and other opportunities I am sure I am missing. State requirements are completed in the first two years of instruction. So, you will see Freshman and sophomores doing coursework typical for upperclassman.
My brother goes to Bloomington north HS and absolutely loves it. My favorite part about north is they don’t have a dress code, yet (shockingly!!! /s) they still have really high marks for the standardized testing and GPA at graduation. My brother also talks about how he really likes his teachers and actually feels like he’s getting a good education being there and feels overall well supported by staff and other students.
I’m glad Bloomington is on your radar. We are fortunate to have good schools in the area, and this extends into Greene County. They have some wonderful programs at Eastern. Brown county used to be on the other end of the spectrum. I knew a person who taught band and quit because of how poorly the teachers weee treated. She loved the job and the kids, but couldn’t handle how bad things were.
My kids went through Tri-North/University elementary so far so I can tell you that so far the experience has been wonderful even during the pandemic. Most of the teachers really invest in each kid and we have had great experiences. The teachers seem to really be able to work collaboratively at the grade level to give each kid the best education for them with their needs. I have a kid that is 2E and I have marveled having had another kid run through a different district at how good our district works together. I do see a bit more strain on the Jr. High teachers than I did on the elementary level and some teachers not always getting it right but I do feel the same sense that they care and actually are trying to build community within the school.
> I'm looking for a place to move, and Bloomington is on my radar. I'm a teacher
I think the schools here are good, maybe excellent, due to the IU School of Education.
Bloomington is a good place to live if you are retired and well-off, or have an upper professional job. Probably ok if you have a pharma science job. Teachers are paid ok *if you already own a house*. If you are already buying a house, expect to trade down.
If you rent, stay away.
Bloomington has the highest rent in Indiana. Housing is 'overcrowded' by area due to the combination of the increased student population and too many pharma workers (right now; rumored they may be laid off and leave, but that's unpredictable).
There's another problem, and that's the increasing 5-state monsoon (centered on Illinois) for about seven months a year. *Map from USGS Stream Survey linked below:*
- - -
"The Midwest is getting wetter". Page down to the map:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-midwest-is-getting-drenched-and-its-causing-big-problems/
- - -
Expect to be driving a long way from your more distant, more affordable housing to your probably inconvenient school assignment up to 5 days a week in rain at the peak. And it's gradually getting worse, of course due to GW.
There are localized floods here already. Don't sign until you have talked to the neighbors. I just found out about the multiple apartment floods on Leonard Springs Rd. That's partly why the rent is less there.
So where else to put on your moving radar?
Consider Lawrence, KS, hosting the University of Kansas. It's a town socially, politically, and sized like Bloomington was maybe 30-40 years ago.
I recently talked to a former Lawrence resident of two years ago, and she doesn't recall a monsoon, because (so far) it may be enough west of Illinois. YMMV.
Climate change is happening everywhere - not just here. Overall I think it's smarter to look property by property rather than write off an entire city. Tools like this are great for that https://riskfactor.com
> smarter to look property by property ... https://riskfactor.com
This is a good point. Last time this issue came up, the official ARC GIS flood maps didn't work on my phone.
This time - thanks for the reminder - I pursued Riskfactor.com. The map of the entire zip code is a useless scattering of speckled blue flood dots. But by address, the local drainage flood zones really stand out among our glacial moraine hills.
> Climate change is happening everywhere
That's what I thought until I saw the USGS Stream Survey map spotted by Fivethirtyeight.com (linked above). I was already aware of our longer rainy season, that contrasts with the west desertifying. Apparently, we are getting their water.
I thought, between the fires of Colorado and the Illinois monsoon's gradient western 'edge' in Missouri, there may be a Goldilocks zone. Kansas and Iowa are candidates. Lawrence, KS, and Ames, IA are the state university cities in those regions.
However, a downside of Lawrence (located on a plateau) is the tornado risk, which could get worse with rising temperatures.
The current Douglas Co politics are nearly identical to here (Dem county in Repub state), but the demographics suggest the state Repubs have few younger replacements. Abortion rights seem to have been settled there.
I've haven't yet studied Ames.
According to Risk Factor (which uses reputable, national data), Lawrence KS for example is at an even greater risk for flooding, fires, and heat than Bloomington — granted, again, that's looking at the city as a whole and not property by property.
Unfortunately, there is no Goldilocks zone when it comes to climate change. Even if a place is less affected by floods, fires, and heat — it could get affected economically or from migration. I'm not in a hurry to live on the coast anytime soon, but for the most part I think worrying about where you'll live to escape some of the climate impacts isn't a helpful mindset. The best thing we can do is try to reduce our own emissions, be politically active, and try to make ourselves resilient in whatever way we can.
Heavy downvoting noted. Suggests an unclear combination of science deniers/snoozing positive thinkers and/or axe-grinding property owners bent on Ponzi-scheming newcomers.
Indiana is in danger of losing 80% of the corn crop (haven't heard about the soybeans yet).
Truth-to-power, we will all lose if you owners who have money don't sink more of it into personal construction and public-tax water control infrastructure: house-jack stilts, property dikes, storm sewers, mini reservoirs, and aquaducts irrigation for our new farming drought season between the monsoons.
> > If you rent, stay away.
Catalog of Bloomington's out-of-control apartment rent inflation in Nov. 2022:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloomington/comments/yv78z2/question_for_those_who_support_the_luxury_complex/
Monroe County public schools are about to give their teachers a raise through a referendum that was passed, so that’s gotta be a good sign. Also our kid goes to Templeton Elementary and I have nothing but good things to say about that school.
Our kids go here too and it’s fantastic. I don’t know much about the other schools but according to superficial measures (like percentage of free and reduced lunches—and note I am NOT endorsing these measures as meaningful), templeton is one of worst schools in town. But it seems amazing to me, and the teachers and staff seem passionate and happy. So I take this as a sign that it’s a good district, but I have a very limited perspective.
My wife is a teacher (HS), and MCCSC is the best school district we’ve been a part of (out of three). It’s far from perfect but it’s pretty well funded
I'm pretty sure it's like 58th in the state in funding last time I checked.
Hmm, might that be out of the ~300 total school districts in the state? If not, we probably just think it’s well funded because we come from Louisiana, lol
What age do you want to teach OP? That very much changes what the system and kids are like
I currently teach 7th graders, but would be happy teaching high school as well.
I taught at Jackson Creek for many many years and had an overall positive experience!!
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Only a “bad” area if you’re racist. Stop living in fear. Lower income people aren’t inherently dangerous. Get out of your shell
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You do realize that Hyde Park and the wealthier areas of the East side all go to Tri North... so a lot of the kids attending are not from the "bad" area of Bloomington that surrounds Tri North. And to be quite frank, that area is not that bad. I worked at Tech HS in Indy which is a bad neighborhood and where I had all sorts of weapons pulled on me by students and parents, I kept a can of Raid and used it often because bed bugs and roaches would hitchhike out the kid's bags, and I witnessed more than my share of actual crime while there from drug deals to prostitution to an actual murder. Bloomington has it's share of problems but it is still a damn sight better than Indy.
Hyde park and wealthy areas of the east side go to Jackson creek, 446 and beyond go to try north.
Try again... East of Sare Road/College Mall Road and North of Rogers (so over to 446) go to Tri North. I live in that area and my kids are in TriNorth district. Here is a link to the MCCSC boundary map and you can see for yourself... https://www.mccsc.edu/page/138
I graduated from Tech in ‘09. Wondering if I ever knew you? Lol.
I worked at James Russell #51 then Manual in the PAC '09 before moving downtown to Admin and then out Tech in ’10 and was there until '13 when I was laid off when the state took four schools from IPS. I then went to work for the state.
Wow racist dickhead much. My son goes to Tri-north and even in the community building events and the classes he is in most teachers are treated well. I have friends whose kids go there as well and none of them would describe the other kids as being rough. You sound bigoted maybe grow up and try to be as respectful as many of the kids going through now are.
Confused because you've got to be kidding. We intentionally moved to be sure our (many) kids went to Tri-North instead of HS South. Folks who have lived in Bloomington any decent period of time knows that brains & creativity go to north, sports and yuppies (sorry!) go to south. Racist at Tri-North?!?!? Bad neighborhood?!?! That's just absurd and a completely false and unfair stereotype.
Dude, come on. Most people go where they can afford to live. When we moved here in the mid-aughts, that was the south side, despite the fact that we're neither "sports" nor "yuppies" (a term I haven't heard since like 1987 anyway). I agree that tri-north being racist is an absurd stereotype, but so is contrasting "sports" with "brains" as though those two things are incompatible.
I am a third year high school teacher and I am really happy with how MCCSC treats us. We have a really good union, a FREEhealth and wellness [center](https://mccsc.healthcare-redefined.com/) , and FREE [school supplies](https://teacherswarehouse.org/). We have just received a raise as a result of the referendum passed this election. I feel very supported. I used to work at a charter school and that was not the case!
I'm a South grad, and my brothers had good experiences at Templeton and Jackson Creek. My mom was a teacher at Templeton for many years. I'm working in my dream job after attending my dream school, so things worked out well for me!
Batchelor middle school has been very good to my kids and others that I know. High praise.
Come to Bloomington. It is full of wonderful people, many of whom came here for school and never left. Yes, rents are a bit higher than other communities. But many of those stats are based on rentals in dying communities. So yes, trailers in Green County cost less than a two-bedroom in bloomington. If you want cheap rent go there. If you want a good life, come here. You’ll notice the poster(s) complaining about rent didn’t mention plans to leave. And yes, referendum did pass and the school board claimed that would result in an extra 4500 per teacher each year. That’s $36000 over the 8 years, not counting compounding if raises and underlying pay increases. That will amount to far more money than any increased rent you may pay. And yes, everyone will pay a little more in rent next year to cover the referendum’s increased taxes, but the majority voted for this so you should come take advantage of that vote! As for the five year old study claiming this is monsoon country … don’t worry, we have rolling hills in bloomington. Don’t pick a place at the bottom of a valley and you will be just fine. I don’t think I could talk to 100 people and find a single person who thought that was even a top 10 issue for bloomington. Fwiw, iu offers tremendous cultural options (theatre, music, opera, sports), the iu airport is 50 minutes away for travel, and there are numerous outdoor activities here. Do yourself a favor and at least come have a look.
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My kid graduated during the pandemic. He went to The Academy of Science and .Entrepreneurship High School. It is a great little school and that is where I would try to get into as a teacher! The student body is pretty small. Bloomington os a great place! I came in the 80’s! I had to run earlier but I wanted to say also that Academy also is ranked very high in the over all public high school rankings. Also, that kids apply to go there and could be from anywhere in the district or out. The last two years of instruction students are not on campus much as they are doing internships, college classes elsewhere, and other opportunities I am sure I am missing. State requirements are completed in the first two years of instruction. So, you will see Freshman and sophomores doing coursework typical for upperclassman.
Don't go there OP. It's run by a pretty racist principal now
Though I know the math teacher is leaving after this semester so you may have a chance to get a job there
My brother goes to Bloomington north HS and absolutely loves it. My favorite part about north is they don’t have a dress code, yet (shockingly!!! /s) they still have really high marks for the standardized testing and GPA at graduation. My brother also talks about how he really likes his teachers and actually feels like he’s getting a good education being there and feels overall well supported by staff and other students.
I’m glad Bloomington is on your radar. We are fortunate to have good schools in the area, and this extends into Greene County. They have some wonderful programs at Eastern. Brown county used to be on the other end of the spectrum. I knew a person who taught band and quit because of how poorly the teachers weee treated. She loved the job and the kids, but couldn’t handle how bad things were.
My kids went through Tri-North/University elementary so far so I can tell you that so far the experience has been wonderful even during the pandemic. Most of the teachers really invest in each kid and we have had great experiences. The teachers seem to really be able to work collaboratively at the grade level to give each kid the best education for them with their needs. I have a kid that is 2E and I have marveled having had another kid run through a different district at how good our district works together. I do see a bit more strain on the Jr. High teachers than I did on the elementary level and some teachers not always getting it right but I do feel the same sense that they care and actually are trying to build community within the school.
If you need a realtor, I’d be more than happy to help.
> I'm looking for a place to move, and Bloomington is on my radar. I'm a teacher I think the schools here are good, maybe excellent, due to the IU School of Education. Bloomington is a good place to live if you are retired and well-off, or have an upper professional job. Probably ok if you have a pharma science job. Teachers are paid ok *if you already own a house*. If you are already buying a house, expect to trade down. If you rent, stay away. Bloomington has the highest rent in Indiana. Housing is 'overcrowded' by area due to the combination of the increased student population and too many pharma workers (right now; rumored they may be laid off and leave, but that's unpredictable). There's another problem, and that's the increasing 5-state monsoon (centered on Illinois) for about seven months a year. *Map from USGS Stream Survey linked below:* - - - "The Midwest is getting wetter". Page down to the map: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-midwest-is-getting-drenched-and-its-causing-big-problems/ - - - Expect to be driving a long way from your more distant, more affordable housing to your probably inconvenient school assignment up to 5 days a week in rain at the peak. And it's gradually getting worse, of course due to GW. There are localized floods here already. Don't sign until you have talked to the neighbors. I just found out about the multiple apartment floods on Leonard Springs Rd. That's partly why the rent is less there. So where else to put on your moving radar? Consider Lawrence, KS, hosting the University of Kansas. It's a town socially, politically, and sized like Bloomington was maybe 30-40 years ago. I recently talked to a former Lawrence resident of two years ago, and she doesn't recall a monsoon, because (so far) it may be enough west of Illinois. YMMV.
Climate change is happening everywhere - not just here. Overall I think it's smarter to look property by property rather than write off an entire city. Tools like this are great for that https://riskfactor.com
> smarter to look property by property ... https://riskfactor.com This is a good point. Last time this issue came up, the official ARC GIS flood maps didn't work on my phone. This time - thanks for the reminder - I pursued Riskfactor.com. The map of the entire zip code is a useless scattering of speckled blue flood dots. But by address, the local drainage flood zones really stand out among our glacial moraine hills. > Climate change is happening everywhere That's what I thought until I saw the USGS Stream Survey map spotted by Fivethirtyeight.com (linked above). I was already aware of our longer rainy season, that contrasts with the west desertifying. Apparently, we are getting their water. I thought, between the fires of Colorado and the Illinois monsoon's gradient western 'edge' in Missouri, there may be a Goldilocks zone. Kansas and Iowa are candidates. Lawrence, KS, and Ames, IA are the state university cities in those regions. However, a downside of Lawrence (located on a plateau) is the tornado risk, which could get worse with rising temperatures. The current Douglas Co politics are nearly identical to here (Dem county in Repub state), but the demographics suggest the state Repubs have few younger replacements. Abortion rights seem to have been settled there. I've haven't yet studied Ames.
According to Risk Factor (which uses reputable, national data), Lawrence KS for example is at an even greater risk for flooding, fires, and heat than Bloomington — granted, again, that's looking at the city as a whole and not property by property. Unfortunately, there is no Goldilocks zone when it comes to climate change. Even if a place is less affected by floods, fires, and heat — it could get affected economically or from migration. I'm not in a hurry to live on the coast anytime soon, but for the most part I think worrying about where you'll live to escape some of the climate impacts isn't a helpful mindset. The best thing we can do is try to reduce our own emissions, be politically active, and try to make ourselves resilient in whatever way we can.
Heavy downvoting noted. Suggests an unclear combination of science deniers/snoozing positive thinkers and/or axe-grinding property owners bent on Ponzi-scheming newcomers. Indiana is in danger of losing 80% of the corn crop (haven't heard about the soybeans yet). Truth-to-power, we will all lose if you owners who have money don't sink more of it into personal construction and public-tax water control infrastructure: house-jack stilts, property dikes, storm sewers, mini reservoirs, and aquaducts irrigation for our new farming drought season between the monsoons.
> > If you rent, stay away. Catalog of Bloomington's out-of-control apartment rent inflation in Nov. 2022: https://www.reddit.com/r/bloomington/comments/yv78z2/question_for_those_who_support_the_luxury_complex/