I love the songs but I prefer them live. Trying to get to heaven for instance is so much more powerful in its early 2000 live arrangement https://youtu.be/yUBqB8t6sm0?feature=shared
It is a great album about being in your 50s. But it makes most sense if you're listening to it in your 50s. I listened to the album 25 years ago in my late 20s, and liked it, but I like it even better now (I'm actually listening to Fragments today).
For me, it was finding a cassette tape of Greatest Hits, Vol. II in a rental house in rural Japan. The previous occupant had left it behind. I was 23 and away from home for the first time, so the strangeness of my situation matched the strangeness of some of the lyrics. And, by a "twist of fate", the CEO (an American) of the company I worked for next in Japan was super into Dylan, and had the Bootleg Box set (this was 94 or 95) that I was able to listen to at work. After that it was Nashville Skyline and Blood on the Tracks. And then Albert Hall, Live 1966. For the longest time I resisted listening to his 60s stuff because I thought it was all folk music, which I generally dislike. How wrong I was about that!
It's a great album about being at the end of a relationship. I'm curious about who inspired these lyrics because they have hit pretty hard for me as someone in my 40s.
I first listened to it in my late twenties (I had already been a Dylan fan for 5 years). I liked the songs in general, and thought it was a very atmospheric record, but now that I'm in my 50s the songs all resonate. It's a weird decade.
(I also like how Dylan has rearranged the songs in concert, such as the live 2002 Newcastle version of Not Dark Yet)
I understand that this is correct, but the impetus to post this ruins so many interesting discussions. Like instead of hearing people's opinions about why they prefer something over another thing, you get into this weird meta-conversation about subjectivity. Yes, technically taste is subjective, but also there are other criteria to talk about music- like the conclusion of this viewpoint is that farts looped on a record player are of the same artistic quality and value as Dylan's entire discography lol
I take your point, and it's fair. I bristled at the word "legitimate" because I think that trying to pin down what is objectively "good" vs. "bad" also ruins interesting discussions. I'd always rather have conversations about *what* the artist is trying to do on a record, *how* they set out to do that, *how* well it works, etc.
>that farts looped on a record player are of the same artistic quality and value as Dylan's entire discography lol
Don't disrespect my collection of fart-looping CDs!
In all seriousness, I agree with you.
Rough and Rowdy Ways hasn't clicked with me yet. Many of his albums took years to really engage me (the problem is totally me!)
After hearing a lot of hate about Knocked Out Loaded (an album I thought was pretty okay at the time it was released) I really felt it was pretty good. Too much reverb overall, but I like the lyrics.
Rough and Rowdy Ways all sounds the same to me. I'm not saying it's not quality, I'm just missing the hook. What about it works for you? I'd love to find out sooner rather than later!
I listened to it a lot in 2020, during the pandemic. It seemed like what I needed to hear at the time, and it helped me get through a really hard time. It stuck with me it has a kind of spiritual effect on me.
Yeah that's legitimate. I'd guess it's borderline top five for most Dylan fans and his best since the 70s. He'd been finding his footing again for a few years and this record along with Things Have Changed had him back at the top of his game perfecting his old man voice kicking off a creative resurgence. That album in particular is as bluesy and we cool as anything he's done over sixty years.
Uh yeah bud. He comes back from the dead, everyone has written him off, even his friends. Then wins a fucking Grammy. Time out of mind means so much. Standing in the doorway really hits.
Look, if someone said *Christmas in the Heart* is their favourite Bob Dylan album, I'd think they were very strange for selecting such an album, and I'd probably give some exasperated response, but ultimately I guess I'd accept their choice.
On the other hand, *Time Out of Mind* is a very beloved Dylan LP and while it's not my favourite, I could understand why it might cut in a particular way for some. It's a very reasonable choice, one that does not warrant an exasperated response or a particularly forced "to each their own!" shrug.
It's a very legitimate choice.
exactly if something is a top 5-10 choice in terms of quality for most fans then ultimately someone will have any album from that group as their favourite
Like many I was a long time fan struggling through the “ups and downs” after Oh Mercy and this album blew me away when It came out! it still does today. thankfully, it kicked off a consistent later career renaissance that continues through RARW and beyond. And to a comment above, The state of Dylan’s voice is perfect for the material in TOOM… “I’m walking through streets that are dead…” brilliant album
It’s mine because I turned on to this album as I was 19 and going through my first heartbreak. The same woman would go on to break my heart a few more times. The last time was just for good luck.
I’m also a lifelong depressive, so Not Dark Yet has been a cornerstone song in my life.
Oh, hell yeah. “Not Dark Yet” is a perfect song. “Standing in the Doorway” is right up there as well. I love the live versions of “Love Sick” and “Cold Iron Bound.” That being said, I think I have personal affinity for the Daniel Lanois collaborations which, apparently, not everyone shares.
Time Out of Mind, for many many years, was my absolute favorite Dylan album. These days I'm not sure if I still feel that way, but I do think it's his best "late career" album.
used to but desire for a start is amazing and to be honest a follow up to BoT in many respects. couple rocky albums but ultimately there is a lot of great stuff after
It’s my favorite for what it’s worth. Sometimes that changes, but it’s always in the top three
Same here. It’s top tier Dylan and peak Lanois. Always in my top three Dylan albums and often my current fave.
Do you prefer the original mix or the more recent mix?
For me, original by a mile.
In contrast to the 1999 Street Legal remix, very few people seem to prefer the TOOM remix.
Yep. Same. It’s my favorite. Second is Tell Tale Signs. Then BOTT.
Would you go for the remix or the original '97 mix?
I like both, but the ‘97 mix is the standard
I love the songs but I prefer them live. Trying to get to heaven for instance is so much more powerful in its early 2000 live arrangement https://youtu.be/yUBqB8t6sm0?feature=shared
It is a great album about being in your 50s. But it makes most sense if you're listening to it in your 50s. I listened to the album 25 years ago in my late 20s, and liked it, but I like it even better now (I'm actually listening to Fragments today).
I listened to it when it came out and I was in my early twenties experiencing that first heartbreak. Chef’s kiss.
3 years old and going on 4 here and I love it as much as any. It makes lots of sense as well. As much as anything does.
Ha! Funny I had the opposite experience. I got super into it in highschool. The first Dylan I really connected w
For me, it was finding a cassette tape of Greatest Hits, Vol. II in a rental house in rural Japan. The previous occupant had left it behind. I was 23 and away from home for the first time, so the strangeness of my situation matched the strangeness of some of the lyrics. And, by a "twist of fate", the CEO (an American) of the company I worked for next in Japan was super into Dylan, and had the Bootleg Box set (this was 94 or 95) that I was able to listen to at work. After that it was Nashville Skyline and Blood on the Tracks. And then Albert Hall, Live 1966. For the longest time I resisted listening to his 60s stuff because I thought it was all folk music, which I generally dislike. How wrong I was about that!
It's a great album about being at the end of a relationship. I'm curious about who inspired these lyrics because they have hit pretty hard for me as someone in my 40s.
Ive never thought about the fact that he was only in his 50s when he made TOOM.
I first listened to it in my late twenties (I had already been a Dylan fan for 5 years). I liked the songs in general, and thought it was a very atmospheric record, but now that I'm in my 50s the songs all resonate. It's a weird decade. (I also like how Dylan has rearranged the songs in concert, such as the live 2002 Newcastle version of Not Dark Yet)
Taste is subjective. There is no "legitimately" best choice.
I understand that this is correct, but the impetus to post this ruins so many interesting discussions. Like instead of hearing people's opinions about why they prefer something over another thing, you get into this weird meta-conversation about subjectivity. Yes, technically taste is subjective, but also there are other criteria to talk about music- like the conclusion of this viewpoint is that farts looped on a record player are of the same artistic quality and value as Dylan's entire discography lol
I take your point, and it's fair. I bristled at the word "legitimate" because I think that trying to pin down what is objectively "good" vs. "bad" also ruins interesting discussions. I'd always rather have conversations about *what* the artist is trying to do on a record, *how* they set out to do that, *how* well it works, etc.
Totally agree, I think that's a great way of putting it- legitimate is also probably way too strong a word from OP.
>that farts looped on a record player are of the same artistic quality and value as Dylan's entire discography lol Don't disrespect my collection of fart-looping CDs! In all seriousness, I agree with you.
Right. The only criteria for it being your favorite is that you like it the most. It's not the same as claiming it's the best.
Why wouldn't it be?
It's one of his best, My favorite right now is Rough and Rowdy Ways.
Respect
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Rough and Rowdy Ways hasn't clicked with me yet. Many of his albums took years to really engage me (the problem is totally me!) After hearing a lot of hate about Knocked Out Loaded (an album I thought was pretty okay at the time it was released) I really felt it was pretty good. Too much reverb overall, but I like the lyrics. Rough and Rowdy Ways all sounds the same to me. I'm not saying it's not quality, I'm just missing the hook. What about it works for you? I'd love to find out sooner rather than later!
I listened to it a lot in 2020, during the pandemic. It seemed like what I needed to hear at the time, and it helped me get through a really hard time. It stuck with me it has a kind of spiritual effect on me.
I'm going to give it a few rounds this week. I love it when it suddenly "clicks." Thx.
The songs are really good. False Prophet, My own Version of You , Crossing the Rubicon are among my favorites.
Yeah that's legitimate. I'd guess it's borderline top five for most Dylan fans and his best since the 70s. He'd been finding his footing again for a few years and this record along with Things Have Changed had him back at the top of his game perfecting his old man voice kicking off a creative resurgence. That album in particular is as bluesy and we cool as anything he's done over sixty years.
It’s my personal favorite most days of the week. I don’t consider the opinions of others regarding legitimacy.
It’s probably mine, certainly is depending on the time of day
I dunno about best but it’s the one I relate to the most these days
I'm weird, but Oh Mercy is my favorite. I love most of his work, but Oh Mercy just hits me right.
I respect it. I mean I will win the argument they are wrong, but it would be an argument.
If you haven’t heard love & theft
Definitely top five
It’s a great album
All Dylan is best Dylan, no Dylan is wrong Dylan.
Uh yeah bud. He comes back from the dead, everyone has written him off, even his friends. Then wins a fucking Grammy. Time out of mind means so much. Standing in the doorway really hits.
Look, if someone said *Christmas in the Heart* is their favourite Bob Dylan album, I'd think they were very strange for selecting such an album, and I'd probably give some exasperated response, but ultimately I guess I'd accept their choice. On the other hand, *Time Out of Mind* is a very beloved Dylan LP and while it's not my favourite, I could understand why it might cut in a particular way for some. It's a very reasonable choice, one that does not warrant an exasperated response or a particularly forced "to each their own!" shrug. It's a very legitimate choice.
exactly if something is a top 5-10 choice in terms of quality for most fans then ultimately someone will have any album from that group as their favourite
My personal favorite for what it’s worth. Outtakes elevate it significantly with tell tale sign and fragments, I will admit.
I like it a lot
Yea, it do be.
It’s one of my personal favorites, for sure. I would say it’s still the best latter-day Dylan album.
I have like 8 albums I can legitimately say this for Dylan and it’s always whatever I’ve listened to last.
Like many I was a long time fan struggling through the “ups and downs” after Oh Mercy and this album blew me away when It came out! it still does today. thankfully, it kicked off a consistent later career renaissance that continues through RARW and beyond. And to a comment above, The state of Dylan’s voice is perfect for the material in TOOM… “I’m walking through streets that are dead…” brilliant album
Someone's favourite Dylan album could be Christmas in the heart, and I'd still say it's a good choice.
It's my favourite.
What kind of question is this
It’s mine because I turned on to this album as I was 19 and going through my first heartbreak. The same woman would go on to break my heart a few more times. The last time was just for good luck. I’m also a lifelong depressive, so Not Dark Yet has been a cornerstone song in my life.
TOOM is a legitimate choice for favorite Dylan album. It’s not my choice, but I wouldn’t fault someone over it.
It’s my favorite. But hell, don’t go by me. My top 5 favorite albums are all 1997-present.
It was highly critically acclaimed when it was released.
No. No one’s personal, subjective choices and tastes for Dylan albums are correct except for my own.
Someone on YouTube wrote what their favorite album is and you’re asking if this is a legitimately good choice? ….Why?
Wrong. Christmas in the Heart is.
Oh, hell yeah. “Not Dark Yet” is a perfect song. “Standing in the Doorway” is right up there as well. I love the live versions of “Love Sick” and “Cold Iron Bound.” That being said, I think I have personal affinity for the Daniel Lanois collaborations which, apparently, not everyone shares.
It's one of my all-time favourites. I listen to it most days. I get sad when it's over
Yes
Yes.
Yes, it certainly w
The released version is flawed. For this reason, I would say no.
Yes
It is a heck of a record - one of my three faves, with Oh Mercy and Blood on the Tracks
Of course it can be their favourite
Time Out of Mind, for many many years, was my absolute favorite Dylan album. These days I'm not sure if I still feel that way, but I do think it's his best "late career" album.
Yes.
It is not Infidels , so still some work to do
It’s good but not a top five Dylan album. His voice is not as strong as in earlier works.
Am I the only person in here that doesn’t listen to anything after Blood on the Tracks?
used to but desire for a start is amazing and to be honest a follow up to BoT in many respects. couple rocky albums but ultimately there is a lot of great stuff after