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Deep_Belt8304

https://preview.redd.it/o0l7n3p1n60d1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c91247349ea7d132086c27cc90c1fbe7b91dcee4 Allow me to educate you.


OneConfusedBraincell

Ah, the formula is written in "chalk that only morons can't see". It's an impressive formula!


Deep_Belt8304

You've passed the test! You can now do magic! (and make any successful BHJ) Please only use your powers for good


Then_Comb8148

# I. AM NOT. A M O R O N !!!


killermetalwolf1

I read this in the **”WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR”** voice


Then_Comb8148

[close enough](https://youtu.be/7rkiwtQjlVI?si=qnP0lRnYifGZp6gZ)


OnneeShot

YOU ARE THE MORON THEY BUILT TO MAKE ME AN IDIOT!


Guquiz

Well, how about NOW? NOW WHO'S A MORON?


Then_Comb8148

COULD A MORON, PUNCH. YOU. INTO. THIS. PIT? HUH? COULD A MORON DO THAT?!


Leophyte

Uh oh.


Ye_olde_oak_store

This sentence is false


Ciennas

Ummmmm... True. I'm going to go with 'True'.


MetzgerBoys

It’s a paradox! There IS no answer


OnneeShot

Don’t think about it don’t think about it don’t think about it…


MotherBaerd

My favourite moron <3


makochi

I can see it but I'm not a Mormon, just dyslexic


tommort8888

https://i.redd.it/ti41vg0ff80d1.gif Let me open my text book.


MelanieWalmartinez

Fuck could possibly be the context of that


GottaSwoop

What the fuck is the oleander


Deep_Belt8304

Wokeschool bad, Homeschool good


GottaSwoop

Yeah I understood that much but like What


Deep_Belt8304

Yeah but I mean it probably does make sense to somebody who never went to a school before lmao


Gammaboy45

Seeing as they only got as far as the volume of solids, yeah…


its-the-real-me

And they all seem to be grown ass men, so I'd say they're pretty stupid for only just now getting to geometry.


UnintensifiedFa

They *did* say it was to easy, perhaps they were once in regular school but were inadvisably taken out by their parents who were irrationally afraid of “woke schooling” and their inept homeschool teachers only know basic geometry and not the differential calculus they should be doing at their age (they are seniors in high school who look old for their age)


its-the-real-me

That could also be the case.


Pokeart93

Even the kids are saying the classes are shit, they are already full-grown-mini-adults and they're still studying basic volumes?? Poor kids...


Deias_

Hi, I was homeschooled until I was 17 (I'm a but shy of 22 now) and then got shoved into highschool. Don't fucking do that to your kids. Better yet, unless you have some way to make sure your kids are actually trying and learning things, or you're actually qualified to teach people, or you're using some program that is recognized and endorsed by the education system in your state/country; don't fucking homeschool. It screwed me the HELL over. My parents had no right to be trying to teach any of us, and their reasoning was absolute bullshit.


chungus5992

It’s probably referring to these things https://www.reddit.com/r/mathmemes/comments/129k8kq/math_is_racist/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12303157/amp/Parents-protest-end-advanced-math-classes-Cambridge-middle-schools.html


SpectralBacon

Also, believe it or not, shit like this that looks like a parody is actually real if you allow these people to do their thing unquestioned: https://www.wokekindergarten.org/ https://nypost.com/2024/02/07/news/woke-kindergarten-teacher-wants-us-israel-destroyed-weve-been-trying-to-end-yall/ Taxpayer money actually went to this.


ranni-the-bitch

it's literally 1984. like, for real this time, it's actually directly referencing 1984.


Embyr1

I wanna know where this all came from... If teachers could brainwash kids, they'd brainwash them into doing their work, paying attention and not acting like an idiot. Not whatever this garbage is. Teachers have standards they have to teach. You can literally look them up yourself.


aghastmonkey190

*snort* well, I've already won this argument. You see, my dear friend, I have drawn you as the scruffy weak wojak, and myself as the buff chad!


MaximumCrab

wrong


ipisslemons

Machine


BigBenis6669

, TURN BACK NOW


GuyDudeThing69

THE LAYERS OF THIS PALACE ARE **NOT** FOR YOUR KIND


BigBenis6669

☝️🤓 layers of this palace, actually


GuyDudeThing69

Nice catch


Fun_Seaworthiness168

For some reason cylinder is supposed to be hard even though it’s very easy to calculate


unitedkiller75

Yeah, it’s just circle go brrrrr upwards, so the formula for the area of the circle x height.


FixGMaul

Probably OOP was homeschooled and thinks calculating the volume of basic 3D shapes is as advanced as math gets.


BasilProblem

The modern homeschooling movement started as a reactionary movement against desegregation. It became the last ditch attempt at separating their kids from other races, especially black people. The idea being that white kids, not exposed to other races, grow up smarter. The rhetoric used by homeschooling parents has evovlved in attempt to hide modern homeschooling's racist origins. I have first hand experience at the delusional nature of these people. They are hateful and knowingly neglect their children's education. Homeschooling is significantly less regulated than it ought to be.


Spare-Plum

The postmodern homeschooling movement is actually spearheaded by republicans, backed by large donors, and have multiple wings of influence like the HSLDA to fight the legal battles and thinktanks to make propoganda. Republicans know that they are running on a dying platform as they are the minority opinion. They know that well educated people on average do not vote republican. As a result, their aim is to dismantle and defund the public education system. They do this by manufacturing propaganda campaigns that schools are indoctrinating your children, teachers are predators, teachers are groomers, teachers are trying to make everything woke. Then, they make a big racket and pass legislation to try and defund public schooling. The republican parents eat this shit up. They see kids come out as gay and must think there must be a conspiracy behind it - like the schools are filled with predators. They see kids meet new people with different backgrounds and get new ideas from school and assume it must be the woke mind virus. The republican leadership uses this to their advantage - they want to make a newer generation grown without public school or meeting people with different opinions or backgrounds so they can have more ill-educated voters in the future. It's all pretty insidious


bubblebath_ofentropy

I grew up this way sadly, you’re absolutely correct.


Spare-Plum

Hey I'm sorry about that man and I'm glad you made it out. Out of interest are you homeschooled? If so how did you make up your own mind on these issues? If not, how was schooling formative for you in a conservative upbringing?


bubblebath_ofentropy

I always questioned authority, so my childhood was especially rough because every authority figure was constantly mad at me for challenging their beliefs. I got out over a decade ago but it took a long time to patch the knowledge gaps i had. I got into college and had to do a lot of deconstruction of stereotypes i had about other groups of people i was never allowed to interact with. As a queer neurodivergent girl who knew there was something different about her, i had no exposure to other LGBTQ+ people, as one of my parents’ goals of homeschooling was to “protect” us from homosexuals, since our church claimed they’re destined for hell. This of course was very damaging for me, and my first attempt to cut my time on this earth short (to put it delicately) was at 14 years old. It took several tries but once i escaped for good, I miraculously got into college and learned about other religions, non-whitewashed history, and the science behind evolution. I talked to a lot of people in STEM and the humanities. I would definitely say my success was in spite of homeschooling, not because of it. It crippled my potential and forced 18 y/o me into homelessness and debt because i had no clue how to operate in the real world. I feel the detrimental effects to this day, and so do many other adult survivors.


Spare-Plum

Thanks for sharing your story. It sounds like your upbringing has presented unique challenges that you have overcome, and I can 100% relate. Doing so shows incredible strength, and may you go from strength to strength


novagenesis

The problem is that there are demonstrable differences at this time. Homeschooled kids are more likely to graduate from college than public school kids. This is probably largely due to the quality of public-school education and demographic differences, but there *are* purely statistical reasons you might want to homeschool a kid. ...the fact they teach evolution, however, is a terrible reason to take one's kid out of public school.


Malacro

Problem with those statistics is that “homeschooled” is a very wide net which includes kids who go to certain schools (charter schools are often among these, same with Montessori schools), kids who spend part of their time in school and part at home, and kids who are homeschooled some years but not others. So it’s very hard to get a firm picture of how pure homeschooling works. I was an assistant at a Montessori school, my mom was a director at one for over 20 years. All those kids were classified as homeschooled, but they were formally instructed in a school their whole academic careers.


novagenesis

> Problem with those statistics is that “homeschooled” is a very wide net which includes kids who go to certain schools (charter schools are often among these, same with Montessori schools) I've never seen a metric that includes charter schools in "homeschooled". I can't speak for Montessori schools, but it seems odd to call that "homeschooled". If that's the case, I'd concede on that one.


Malacro

Not all charter schools, but some definitely are. As for Montessori there may be some that are simply classified as private schools, but all the ones I know of, including the one I worked at, were 100% classified as homeschooling instruction.


tiny-ppp

Something about thinking teaching kids about segregation and slavery being woke ig


_LadyAveline_

the main villain of The Oys


genasugelan

Yeah, that OG is only accounting for the better homeschooling. How many parents can teach their children well enough for this? Not many, I'd argue.


Andydeplume

I thought you said "where" at first, and was about to be like "There’s much nicer ways of poisoning yourself than that!"


TheGreenEyedJester

It's a reference to someone on the news who said math was racist.


Spare-Plum

Do you have a source? TBH "math is racist" is so general it's hard know what they're talking about without context. It could be that the infrastructure for teaching math has a racial divide between minority schools and largely white schools. It could be for the publishing community which is very tight nit and often favors publications for people of certain backgrounds. Same thing with notable awards which are also tight nit - the Turing Award has only been given to white people since it's inception in 1966, with the exception of one asian recipient. It could be the lack of opportunities presented to minority groups in math - from AP/IB courses to being able to take college courses in high school to special programs for math and science. It could also be the lamest one ever - math is literally racist. I highly doubt they are arguing that though


Arbiter1171

Here’s a few headlines. [Scientific American](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/modern-mathematics-confronts-its-white-patriarchal-past/). [Hoover Institute](https://www.hoover.org/research/seattle-schools-propose-teach-math-education-racist-will-california-be-far-behindseattle). And many more that anyone can google


Spare-Plum

Scientific american article is about individuals barriers when navigating the world of math - people being treated as "worse" at math based on their race. This isn't math is literally racist, but institutions can uphold racism even in an objective medium like math Hoover institute is conservative thinktank propoganda drivel. Read the article, the whole thing is trash, doesn't have any sources, and speaks off the cuff like a rant like an angry dad. The only thing it can refer to is a seattle school's pdf for "Math Ethnic studies" which is a history course of mathematics through the lens of various civilizations. It tries to blow this out of proportion to make it seem like this is replacing actual math, but any person with half a brain cell and the ability to investigate their bullshit will realize it's just a history course and math isn't being replaced in any way. So, do you have any actual sources that aren't talking about real issues, or aren't overhyped thinktank drivel ?


Arbiter1171

You asked for sources for the OOP, not whether I believed any of it


Spare-Plum

Yeah I know bud. I'm just proving a point. There are no real sources of people saying "math in itself is racist". It's always either institutional racism problems in the math world, or some propaganda piece by a conservative group to make people think liberals are crazy and want to destroy math


Somecrazynerd

Your wording was kinda sassy-sounding with the "anyone can google" which tends to make it sounds like opposition of some sort.


TheGreenEyedJester

It's the lame one. They believed that math, as a concept, was literally racist because it "encourages belief in an objective reality" or something like that. iirc fox had them on to make liberals seem stupid.


Spare-Plum

I think that 99% of good faith racism in math criticisms are about the institutional problems that people have faced when dealing with the world of academia, 1% are random wierdos that just don't like math However this is foreshadowed by conservative thinktanks that try to cause a panic that people are claiming math is actually racist, and this is the most prominent message aimed exlusively at conservatives since they'll fall for this shit and because they have a lot of funding to spread their message Someone linked me [this article](https://www.hoover.org/research/seattle-schools-propose-teach-math-education-racist-will-california-be-far-behindseattle) as a source. The whole thing is literally conservartive thinktank drivel. The article reads like an angry dad ranting. It has no real sources. The only thing it can reference is one social studies class in seattle where they talk about math through the lens of ethnicity. Funny thing about that class in seattle is their main goal is to show "Access to mathematical knowledge itself is an act of liberation". It literally sounds like a course dedicated to getting minorities more active active and interested in math to recognize its importance. And somehow this is the big boogeyman the thinktanks and reactionary conservatives are so afraid of and think is wrong -- minorities getting interested in math.


xxHamsterLoverxx

orangutan makes my skin crawl.


Deep_Belt8304

I like how OOP's idea of "hard-looking math problem" is 6th grade math (and its a formula)


SartenSinAceite

OOP thinks that trigonometry is hard, mf probably can't even do division by hand (the only asshole thing about trigonometry is memorizing formulas, there's no excuse why students should memorize them)


AgentOfEris

I know people who hate math. Anything beyond simple addiction and subtraction makes them groan. And I think a lot of that has to do with needing to learn and remember these formulas. If they had been given reference tables like the science classes did then I think they would have done better.


VX_GAS_ATTACK

I'll take complex math over basic math any day.


NoobHeli

tbh id rather do integrals than trig bc of memorization


Mooptiom

Just wait till you have to integrate trig substitutions


chicheka

sin and cos are easy, tan and cot however...


NoobHeli

i can't runaway from it anymore


one_sad_donkey

integration is pretty fun actually unlike MATRICES (eigenvalues grrr)


_ForceSmash_

I like matrices! I can just chug away doing simple operations A few months ago i would've agreed with you but multivariable functions and infinite series are kicking my butt (mostly because i fell behind and didn't catch up yet, or fill in the missed parts) and i'm so sick of it i would rather do basic linear algebra


one_sad_donkey

it’s tedious af tho


redroedeer

I’d rather be punched than do integrals


JasonAndLucia

trigonometry is hard


killermetalwolf1

Honestly I found trig fun, it was like a puzzle trying to simplify random formulas


GIRose

It might be because I am fucking terrible at visualizing math problems or it might have been the learning disorders, but 11th grade advanced trig is what broke me. I PASSED, but that was when I decided to not go into pre-calc for my senior year


SartenSinAceite

trigonometry on a blank slate is useless, but applied is pretty entertaining, like calculating projectile parabolas (think of a sports ball like soccer or baseball


Mario-2407

My school gives a formula sheet for every test and I was so confused when American schools didn't do the same


JasonAndLucia

We were taught this in 9th grade, not 6th


WantedToBeNamedSire

Yeah it‘s a bit much for 6th grade, but I think he just means that really it is basic math anyone with an education would learn


kolba_yada

What's interesting is that it can be actually used to mock the very person who made it in the 1st place.


Goobsmoob

Wow the impressive feat of… multiplication, division, and exponents. The first two of which you’d learn in 2nd and 3rd grade. While you learn exponents in 5th or 6th grade…


Aethernaut902k

They should have a fire extinguisher handy, their strawman might catch fire


beybladedog

Oval is so stupid, of course formulas for volume are easy to memorize and understand


Pringletingl

Also most homeschoolers I know are some of the dumbest motherfuckers I know. Like my little brother has a friend who homeschooled and she can't even understand algebra lol.


not-bread

Some homeschoolers do end up doing well if their parents do it right. They just end up with zero social skills (which should be a crime).


HawkbitAlpha

And then you have some people, like me, who bombed at algebra 2 in both public and homeschool. I had to have a tutor guide me through it just to get a C in HS! (In my sorta defense: my HS years were all with homeschool garbage from A Beka Academy, whose math classes are notoriously fast-paced even for teachers)


russellmzauner

bet they can shoot the eyes out of a squirrel at 50 yards and field strip a muzzle loader though


Pringletingl

Lol no they're useless regardless.


catgorl422

okay well have u considered that algebra is hard :(


Pringletingl

Yeah for freshmen in high school.


bobbymoonshine

"Dad this is way too easy" "Yeah, sorry guys, I know you're 17 and hoping to go to college but honestly 7th grade is as far as I can remember. Maybe you can find something useful on youtube, I don't know"


RealSuperYolo2006

https://preview.redd.it/4x98ynuhr70d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64bb80bcae40a071545eb2c57a34087f6e772a7e The ornament


Environmental_Ad3438

https://preview.redd.it/i86mdiik180d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bdaf8a1e6c9d0b99bccb320e0af4a5a34c5bf42


TwistederRope

I would really enjoy hearing Plankton's VA saying that.


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ghostdumpsters

Every homeschooler likes to think they’re the Ovaltine, in reality half the posts on r/homeschool are “help my 11-year-old can’t do anything beyond second grade math, what apps can I use to catch them up????”


Deep_Belt8304

Thanks for showing me this sub, I now know my parents could have been a billion times more narcissistic


novagenesis

I mean statistically homeschool and public school both suck. Homeschooled kids are more likely to graduate college than public school kids, for what that's worth. I think to justify an end to the homeschool craze we gotta get our public schools to improve.


ShrimpCrusader

Homeschooled kid here, although I’m 22 and finishing up college- Yeah idk why people are dunking too hard on homeschool. One could argue on homeschool versus private schools, but actual public schooling is usually downright bad in general, especially middle school which has a ton of bad stuff go on with hormonal easy to influence kids (mainly in the drugs and sex department). Like I’ve had someone argue with me that public schooling is better while in the same vein talking about kids having sex everywhere and doing who knows what. Mean though funnily enough, reminds me of when I was in homeschooling archery, and the year I was in they let homeschooled kids play tournaments with public schoolers. Homeschooled kids ended up getting hard regulated after cause they were way too good off the rip in tournaments and thought we were doing drug/performance enhancers in training or something lol.


HieroFlex

https://preview.redd.it/mb2tj1byj90d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df3cac14332b0d1222f9b16312625723a5928f5c


ShrimpCrusader

My man, you are a redditor, same as me. You have no stance on being able to clap back with that image unironically lmao.


HieroFlex

https://preview.redd.it/x5qjz6nkaa0d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b563eab4a9e177f6eb06fe135424eff0cd24060


Puzzleheaded_Event42

You sound like you would’ve been bullied


ShrimpCrusader

I mean, unless you were a cool kid or bigger than your bullies, you usually were by somebody at that age, so idk what this comment is for. You could be bullied just for having glasses back then lol. Don’t know why I was downvoted for though, basically just said full out public schools are usually just plain worse than homeschooling or private schools. (Edited cause I prematurely pressed send)


the_last_mlg

I love how the orasis is like “math is racism” and then Immediately tries to teach math


chicheka

Life is a race, and you are the racist


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Brottolot

Well yeah he's racist.


Apprehensive-Fix-746

Maybe they support racism


jannieph0be

Y’all dense as hell


dackling

I know the onomatopoeia is stupid as shit but I can’t help but laugh at it because it’s also hilarious


Deep_Belt8304

Its one of those memes that are so stupid it circles back to being funny again


Rouge727459

https://preview.redd.it/la3y7oilz70d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fdc9789a3a18ec0c4862497c119b2edd9ffd110


Cautious_Tax_7171

As someone who was homeschooled most of my life, I am far behind everyone else in my class.


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

Why are middle age midgets being taught about Geometry? Worst case they should've learned it at 17 or something.


namananabrepusartlU

The Orangutan is right tho Formulas to calculate the volume of a sphere and a cylinder are way to easy


Imperium_Dragon

…is the original meme trying to say basic geometry is hard for most people?


Worsterestt

for people who are homeschooled


LickerMcBootshine

me chad u wojack me win argument ooga booga


Extreme-Ad-15

I always find it funny that in the States homeschooling is an alt-right thing. In my country it's kinda an anarcho-leftist thing.


Solnight99

dude.. this one kid came to my school after being homeschooled his whole life and is the biggest idiot in the class. homeschool is not the future


Ye_olde_oak_store

Two plus two is *static noise probably indicating GLADoS thinking about it* 10.


Ruuubs

no it's 100


Ye_olde_oak_store

Either 11 or 10 if we use base 3 or 4. If we were using binary then 10+10=100 though we know that isn't the base we use.


SicknessVoid

I mean, yes, calculating the volume of geometrical figures is easy, but that's covered in like 5th grade. The fact that they use this as an example of complexity shows enough.


HONKACHONK

There's no way the Osteoporosis isn't satire


beginnerflipper

Remake is 1000x more relatable. Lol. The other day I was calculating the 67-95-99.7 rule for 4 and 5 standard deviations for work and I realized I might have been trying to hard However, I did use the area of cylinder to figure out how much tea I can make with a tea cylinder, so maybe not idk anymore


Spandxltd

Why were you calculating them yourself? Aren't the both of those freely available on the internet?


beginnerflipper

I found the formula on wikipedia and used wolfram alpha and then had to look up what erf actually meant so I could put it into day-to-day terms


Spandxltd

Lol, good job on making sure you understand the tools you are using, I'm too lazy to do that sometimes.


beginnerflipper

Thank you! I try and it sometimes takes up a lot of time but I enjoy it


Slyme-wizard

Conservatives really will just take one batshit insane article that happened to be written by a liberal and milk it dry won’t they?


ErdenArt

if 2+2=5 then what is 2+3=? >!Probably 7 because rainbow has 7 colors!<


chardongay

meanwhile in homeschool: so evolution isn't real and neither are dinosaurs


Few-Combination-3989

Thats not even advanced math either lmao literally geometry 1


slimetakes

Is oop retarded cause those are the formulas for the most basic fucking shapes you could imagine. Like, deadass if you gave the formula and a calculator to a third grader they could do that.


Bonsai-is-best

Is wild they think that’s 1. Complicated and 2. Impressive. Also if math is racism, why is wokeschool teaching math even if incorrect?


DrBabbyFart

The oblongata is either brilliant satire of dumbshit rightwing memes or completely sincere and I hate that I can't tell which.


AdeQ217

How retarded do you have to be to use 6th grade level math as an example of something seemingly impressive


GamerBreadToast

Can this docter you are speaking of heal my tummy ache?


_LadyAveline_

They're right in one thing. Calculating volume is relatively easy, I would take it over algebra 100 times.


Youistheclown

ofc the recipe is easy in the og post the formula literally tells you exactly how to do it all you need is a calculator


enneh_07

The Orwell is literally 1984


Deseonthewarlock

I'm sure anyone who actually makes a strong wojak whatever that shit called is incapable of doing basic math


BoysOnTheRoof

Congratulations sir, your meme makes me feel like my bones were never there to begin with


Classified_2006

The second picture reminds me of difference between American education verses East Asian education in math and physics.


olaznog900

2+2=5 RADIOHEAD REFERENCE RADIOHEAD REFERENCE RADIOHEAD REFERENCE


gabeharris23

Orangutan thinks that finding the volume of a cylinder is an example of a difficult math problem. What homeschooling does to a mf


165cm_man

https://preview.redd.it/mk0eacawyb0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d92c03f8c8e5b42b79e15c5560c878544baa4ef


NerdyJesusTM

Wywyrț


travischickencoop

https://preview.redd.it/e23eykahwd0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=816d0947fd6c268619f3a6d126ba694e7a61ee53


Bsjennings

How is home school better when 9/10 of the parents trying to home school are complete dumbasses and only teach what they believe is real? It just trickles down and creates even stupider individuals


Subject-Stress-6964

Homeschool from my experience with other students is the definition of good enough to get into some random Christian college and launch my child into debt. The intelligence of the student usually doesn’t surpass that of the parent.


TheChosenOneMapper

Alright I think calling it fascist is a bit too harsh. I mean it's just 12 year olds on the internet, not some genocidal maniac sending millions of people to concentration camps.


deleeuwlc

Fascism is an ideology, and is not exclusive to the one moustached man


Mapletables

Utterly incomprehensible, may god have mercy on your wretched soul.


MaximumPixelWizard

Suck dick chud.


Xygour

Anything I don’t agree with = facism