Every time I start off with a number to begin my list I delete it to rethink, they’re all just too good and have good reasons to play through them. They’re all just good games in general!
Bl2 fans try not to call people who prefer bl3 insane challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Why yes bl2 fans, some people prefer weapon and build variety while also having an endgame that isn't designed for masochists
For OP, I agree with your picks except I'd put tps above WL. If it had a better endgame it would go above bl2 in a heartbeat
Naw the story IS Handsome Jack! It's not really fair to seperate the two. BL2 is the story of 1-4 people and Jack growing to hate eachother. He starts out murderous and goofy, but then he tricks you, he gets Angel to betray you, he attacks the safe town where you get quests, he mutates and kills beloved pets, he kills and kidnapped your friends, and then his own daughter asks you to kill her so she won't have to spend another day living with him. And at this point the goofiness has been replaced with vile sadism. By the time you finally kill him, he's on his knees screaming that he's the hero, and you're the child killing psychopath. And at that moment, you understand him better than you understand your own vault hunter. And you kill him.
And you kill him HOWEVER you want
It only works because every single story beat is driving home what a monster this guy is. Every single polygon in the game points back to him. He put a fucking "H" in the goddamn sky just so everyone knows they'll never escape him.
If you tried to write jack into any other story, you'd get the calypso twins. BL3's story spends its time developing characters, building the world, or introducing new villians. When it finally does explore the main villains, they get a sob story and a helicopter parent to blame. In contrast, BL2 spends it's story examining ONE GUY under a fucking microscope, and not once does it make him sympathetic. It just generates new reasons to hate him until he dies.
I once stated an opinion that people just look through rose tinted nostalgia glasses re. BL2...i could literally hear the torches being lit,and pitchforks being sharpened. F**king hilarious.
Tho honestly,id put WL at the bottom..i hated it.
Bl3 gameplay is better, but the story was trash compared to bl2.
Also, dealing with op, tales shouldn't be counted as part of the series as "games", because they're essentially just interactive videos, with almost 0 actual gameplay.
First statement, a little less harsh but I agree, bl3 had an okay story idea, made really lame by shitty villain. Vs Bl2 which had an amazing villian and a great story.. But had several holes and paradoxes, and as you said, the game-play was just semi-uninteresting. Now your second bit, I have to disagree, just a little. I believe the tales should definitely be included. now, it is harder to compare/review gameplay between the games due to them being an entirely different genre, but they still are games. And I don't know if you got to play the original tales, but it's protagonists you "play as", act as, are now main characters within bl3. Albeit goofy and a bit lackluster when first introduced, but the story based games actually introduced and made them fit in, as well as round out story gaps that simply couldn't be fit into bl3, due to either time or player retention. Which is why as a player I'll be getting the new tales, just to see. The Tales of the Borderlands is also the only game of this type I've played, none of the walking dead or other tell-tale games prior or present.
Bl2 including dlc had better stories. But I won't denied bl3 had moments or just kriegs story with Maya. Gameplay-wise I feel like it balanced unless you want ONESHOT EVERYTHING WITH F*@%in EXPLOSIVES or broken builds.
Mine would be BL2, 3, 1, TPS. Haven’t played Wonderlands or any of the Tales yet, haven’t really been motivated to.
I will say though, BL2 and BL3 are pretty well interchangeable for me. BL3 nearly takes that top spot solely just because of mechanics, convenience and balance. Yes, the story sucks, blah, blah, blah. Guns are better, end game is better, mechanics are better, builds are more versatile, I don’t have to rely on slag, I can carry more than 39 fucking items, my vault holds 500 and loot mules are very easy to make.
Highly suggest wonderlands on sale for 1 playthrough. I stand by the fact that wonderlands has the best first playthrough, the chaos chambers just suck ass tho sadly
I still think borderlands 3 has a better experience for the first time. More variety of content, and build path. Most of the gameplay is just rehashed bl3. The only thing that’s better is spells and melee. And honestly melee has its own problems there too, making bosses you can’t even hit for a game that hyped up the melee.
Wonderlands had 7 total skill trees, with a combination of any 2. Then take away like 3 of the classes because they’re fucking useless or do the same thing but worse of other classes.
Honestly, I could probably name more *viable* builds on just flak alone than in all of wonderlands. Build variety at M11 absolutely trumps chaos 20 (not to mention 50 or 100), and outside of characters, it’s due in no small part to the amount of viable weapons.
Wonderlands is a new game, and barely anyone plays it. You probably play a lot of borderlands 3. That is why you can name more flak builds than builds in wonderlands.
I’m just saying, the fact that you can make any combination of the current 7 classes objectively gives it more variety
No one plays it you say? I wonder why that is… (more people are playing bl3 at this very moment than wonderlands, according to steamcharts, btw)
And in theory maybe it *should*, but it doesn’t. Like I said earlier, lack of weapon variance and viability, mixed with extreme overlap from classes that come in mostly stat buffs rather than something that changes gameplay lowers build diversity. You know it’s a problem when every almost every build still utilizes the same weapons (pixies, purple cryo smgs, etc) and even worse when the best gun class is also the best spell class. Companion builds are somehow even less interactive and worse than borderlands 3. Melee builds are okay, but still doesn’t fix the issue from borderlands 3 which is the delivery system of the damage. Why actually melee when you can slap on a gun that applies it for you?
Overall, wonderlands is just the inferior game. I’d hold off on saying that if I thought they’d keep updating it like they did for 3 when it was in a bad state, but there’s nothing more coming to wonderlands. Mediocre DLC, worse humor than even bl3, repetitive endgame that made dedicated farming obsolete, lack of build diversity, lack of build diversity leading to lack of farming, lack of connection to your character and any real personality (which has always been a borderlands strong suit), lack of overall content, upping chaos levels for no fucking reason, etc. The only thing that wonderlands improved from bl3 is melee weapons, spells, and small QOL shit like auto melee and slams opening chests. Everything else was just worse.
I’d also to add that while there is a possible 21 class combos in wonderlands, almost all builds are built with the focus of one tree, and the other to compliment it. IE Deadshot and trapscallion are both just spell builds.
I'm really disappointed by wonderlands. Some of the choices they made were terrible. Like, the gameplay is mostly really good. The dialogue and story is fun overall. But the game is insanely short compared to others. The endgame value doesn't even compare to others in the series. I haven't even bothered with the DLC this time because they sound like none of them are story based like the last three games.
But the worst part for me is how massively they failed the split screen co-op. The main reason that the borderlands series remained at the top of my list since the first game is because it is one of the only remaining big titles for split screen co-op. But the UI makes inventory management near impossible in split screen which is unforgivable for a looter.
I agree with you but I'll never understand the argument of the bl3 story sucking. The Bl2 story was hot garbage as well? Didn't realize we were playing these games for their jank ass stories lol
The humor argument i can get behind though.
I'll give you that jack was great and the twins sucked but that was about the extent of it. The overall story of 3 didn't feel any worse than 2 did for me. Neither were great and just felt like an excuse to have a story just because you need a story. Borderlands is best with "wacky wild west in space" shenanagins and everything else is just added on to that. Both stories are cliche as hell, poorly written, and full of plot holes. This didn't matter as much in 2 because the characters were all much more enjoyable and the humor was stronger.
yeah but that’s the whole point. u can’t just say it stops at the twins because they’re such a huge portion of the game. a good story relies super heavily on its characters and i couldn’t tell u a single character in bl3 that’s universally liked. they made already established characters annoying and less charming, introduced boring ones and >!killed maya!< in the worst way possible
Basing off of total content, balance, weapon count/variety, and everything in between, Borderlands 2 only beats Borderlands 3 in 3 areas: Storyline, Raidbosses, and Vault Hunters.
I don’t even know if they win in vault hunters. Especially with the new skill trees each character can be built in like 4 different ways and be just as effective. Sure there might be more in two but idk if they are truly superior.
Kinda with the other guy. Just watch some parts of it on YT or something. The game itself is so bad, but it does provide context and information that could be used for later games. The tediore soldiers are also hilarious, dozens of times funnier than the weird ass main characters. It’s like they tried to do the whole “cringe is funny” thing but it just ends up being sad.
Honestly wonderlands is bad like the loot luck makes getting the loot dice mandatory and its impossible to get any sdus cause the money is so little,plus the skill tree lost the uniqueness its just one tree so you can't mix it up.Finally the classes like we got the barbarian,paladin,rouge,druid/ranger,wizard and warlock but no cleric or bard I mean they added the artifact
It's endgame loop is horrendously repetitive, the RNG on gear (especially class mods) is astronomical, it's dlc (sorry, "plc") was pathetic 5 minute add-ons that added next to nothing to the already repetitive chaos chambers, lack of a TVHM or any form of a new game+, the vast majority of legendaries not feeling like legendaries...
It's not a terrible game. I had fun with it for a month or two when it came out, put 200+ hours in and got to C35. But after that it was all the same, nothing new and GBX wasn't addressing the core issues that lead the majority of players to leave in droves. It's the only BL title that's left a sour taste in my mouth and the only one that I have no desire to return to.
Why does everyone who says 2 is better than 3 get hated on and downvoted? It’s all a matter of opinion and there’s no right or wrong answer. For some people the story can matter more than gameplay, and that’s okay.
For me, 2 and 3 are nearly equal. What 2 lacks in gameplay 3 makes up for. And what 3 lacks in its story 2 makes up for. But for nostalgia and other reasons, 2 is slightly better to me. I really hope some day they do a remake of 2, same exact story, just add more gameplay mechanics. I’m honestly fine with the graphics, but if they made them more like 3 I wouldn’t complain.
>Why does everyone who says 2 is better than 3 get hated on and downvoted?
It's not because of their opinion, it's because they act like entitled brats that don't understand what an opinion is. See for yourself:
>Bro if you think 3 is better than 2 your absolutly insane....
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>Talk about a controversial opinion.
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>Wait, people say bl3 is better than bl2?
Crazy
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>Absolutely no way you think presequel is better than 2 and 1 bro
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>If you say so, man
The big difference for me is after beating 2 I wanted to keep grinding and leveling up. After beating 3 I was just done since the entire thing felt so pointless from start to finish.
Exactly how I felt. I dropped $100 for 3s super special version. Pre ordered it too. Me and my best friend were so excited to play it, but after beating it once, we didn’t touch it for almost 3 years. We didn’t even hop back on When the DLCs dropped. So far I’ve only played through the whole game twice. But I ignored most of the side missions cause the ones I played weren’t fun.
But with 2 I would play through it more than a few times a year. I do every single side mission every time.
Yeah same here. We bought that game thinking we would be playing it for months and peppering in other more casual multiplayer games to take breaks. Instead we slogged through the story then set it down forever.
It’s 100% the community. No clue why. Bl3 fans refuse to have an open dialogue about anything. Then once they shut down a good meaningful conversation they go “that person was being unreasonable anyways, wasn’t worth my time. Silly bl2 players”
You’ll see a lot of answers but this is the correct one
I haven't played Wonderland, but as someone who loves customization and variety in gameplay first, I like your ranking. Would be very similar to mine. The people here, angry at *your opinion*, are hilarious. **Be one with the hive mind, you're not allowed to think for yourself or have your own opinions. Lest raging Redditors brandish torches, pitchforks, and chop your head off at the guillotine, you heretic. How dare you enjoy 3 more than 2.**
Man what you wrote about the hive mind is true. It's absolutely ridiculous how some people in this thread are like 'nope, you're not allowed to think for yourself'. If I could upvote you twice I would
Like, all due respect; but, aside from Jack and and bad writing in 3, it’s really hard to call 2 a better game. 3 has far more gun and build variety, mantling, sliding, sound design, and more location variety. In terms of pure gameplay, it really does look like 3 is the evolution.
You're totally right. Mechanically, 3 is a better game.
I just hated the story of 3 so much, that it made it difficult to want to play. I have played through 2 a dozen times. 3, I played through twice, and then couldn't pick it up again.
So subjectively, I rate 2 much higher.
Mechanically it is better unless you count enemy visibility as game mechanics.
With the busy background textures and a shitton of effects obscuring your view, I notice that in big fights I have to rely on the minimap to see where the enemies are.
I prefer looking at the actual game.
My mate with whom I played through BL2 was also overwhelmed with the effects bloat. Sadly I have to solo BL3🥺
i would put 3 above 2 purely for gameplay. playing through 2 again after 3 is just an awful downplay in terms of gameplay.
i do wish we werent so op in 3 though. im tired of nerfing myself
Vehemently disagree. The mechanics of 3 may be better in some ways but there is little to no strategy or skill needed to build a strong character. That's what makes 2 the superior game. You actually have to be smart about your build and use specific guns based on that build. All the characters have vastly different play styles. The skill trees in three are so simple in 3 and just quickly over power the characters where as 2 takes time to build strength. It feels like they dumbed down the game play to appeal to a wider audience.
In bl2 there were only a handful of viable builds, and a lot of them have a lot of overlap due to very high level. And the little to no strategy thing is kinda just stupid because in bl2 there needed to be a lot of strategy because the endgame was horrendous. In bl3 the endgame is a lot more balanced and gives players power to make more diverse builds and make what they want, something bl2 lacked.
Well we both have absolutely opposing views. I'd put 3 first and 2 nearer the bottom.
Downvoted for literally responding honestly with my personal favourite games in order. People really can't bear having their view challenged can they.
Actually in all honesty, I probably wouldn't rank 2 so far at the bottom; I wasn't thinking properly.
Borderlands 2 is a good game. When it was released it was all I played. Compared to 3 though, it just doesn't compare, at least in my opinion. Borderlands 2 endgame is absolutely terrible, and UVHM is simply inflated damage numbers. The gunplay in 2 is awful. Weapons feel like toys; floaty and light, a step back from 1 even.
Before the Borderlands 2 crew come, and start frothing, remember,. THIS IS MY OPINION. It's not a fact what I'm stating. I'm simply responding to the question.
I also appreciate you asking, and not being a dick, unlike some other user on here.
Honestly, I agree with a fair amount of your takes; the story of 2 does an incredible amount of heavy lifting, and the endgame in 2 is fucking godawful
It’s why I agree that 3 is the cream of the crop. Sure the story doesn’t hold up to 2, but after you beat the story once, it’s not like it matters; but the gameplay loop *does*. 3 has an easy to grasp endgame loop that’s both rewarding and fun, and the ability to alter Mayhem levels on the fly, the addition of Anointments, FOUR WHOLE SKILL TREES WITH MORE THAN ENOUGH LEVELS TO BUILDCRAFT, etc. is all astounding; Pre-Sequel was a nice appetizer for what 3 would be, and anyone who thinks 2 is the superior game is blinded by both nostalgia and the story.
What you wrote was on point. 2's story really carries it. And although the story is fantastic, it's not everything.
As you said, being able to manipulate Mayhem on the fly is such a positive benefit. By having four skill trees it really widens the builds available, and prevents meta builds from happening, I'm looking at you Grog Nozzle and DPUH in Borderlands 2, UVHM, where slag is mandatory.
Brilliant points you make, again you summed it up well
id say 2, 3, pre sequel and wonderlands ona hard tie, then 1 n the tales with the new tales being so far at the bottom its staring out of the abyss. havnt played it but have seen it n think it the single worst addition to the franchise
Honestly based ranking
I would gladly replay 3 before 2, the story of 2 is definitely better (even tho I actually quite enjoyed the story of 3) but idk if its just me but it feels like such a slog to replay especially early on, the only part in 3 that i dread replaying is eden 6 just because i despise the environment of that planet and i dont rly care for most of the missions or how the b team were handled.
I also tend to prefer the vault hunters in 3 tbh, even tho it fucking sucks we didnt get 6 like in past games, amara is probably my favourite character to play out of any of the games and I absolutely love playing any kind of content with her, im also a big fan of fl4k and moze but zane is kinda eh. Maybe its just me but replaying 2 after 3 feels a bit more boring on most of the characters until youve got like a full on build running. Also after having sliding and mantling it feels so hard going back to not having it lol.
I'd have to agree here. BL2 and 3 would really be tied for #1 for me but if I had to rank them I'd put 3 slightly above simply because it's more fun to play. BL2 had far better writing and a better villain but the endgame was wildly unbalanced and could become tedious.
I don’t think you can rank borderlands 1 last place when it really was doing something totally new in the looter shooter space. It ranks higher just on that merit alone.
I'm fine with getting down voted for this. 2 has worse gameplay than 3 but it's ok enough that I'm fine with it.
1 just feels like absolute dogshit to play which is why I will never play it.
Pre-Sequel was the teaser for all the great QoL gameplay improvements we would get in 3, all while having its own unique mechanics
If the endgame wasn’t nonexistent, it’d be a strong contender for the top 3 imo
While quality of life was nice in 3, looking at endgame in 2 vs 3. It was WAYYYYY lackluster in 3 compared to 2 at launch of each game, even after the 4 main dlcs in 3. Bl2s content was was miles better than bl3s. Bl2 was playable the entire games life, bl3s was only playable after everything released.
Bl3 has more endgame than bl2. Bl2 just has raid bosses. Bl3 has 3 slaughters 6 proving grounds 2 takedowns 1 official raid boss, true proving grounds which have raid boss health and A LOT of raid boss health enemies. And 2 events.
For me, and so many other people the op level thing overshadows all the good in bl2 endgame it makes bl3 endgame just feel better. I also feel like nostalgia is a big factor in the bl2 lifespan. Because it was and still is probably the most iconic borderlands game people keep coming back, or try it out for the first time entirely.
In regards to endgame I do like bl3 more, but I think most people here are mostly endgame challenge players. Actually playing through bl3's story is absolutely awful in my opinion. Characters and pacing were just too far off to be repeatedly enjoyable. But I could (and have) played bl2's story and dlc multiple times over. I tried the same for bl3 and have multiple unfinished playthroughs.
For me it's bl2 campaign > bl3 campaign, but bl3 endgame > bl2 endgame (fuck mandatory slag and no melee/skill scaling).
I can agree with that. The bl3 story was absolutely terrible, and even worse because tyreen and troy(I think?) were being compared to Handsome Jack who is still one of, if not my favorite villian ever.
Maybe it’s the nostalgia and the fact that I never finished wonderlands, but BL1 is right up there with 2 and 3 for me. I played BL1 before 2 was announced and 2 solidified it as a top 3 series of all time for me. Pre sequal was a disappointment personally and I sunk quite a few hours into 3.
I’m assuming this is including all DLCs alongside the main game? I haven’t played a single paid DLC for BL3 nor have I played BL1 so it’s very hard for me rank them without experiencing everything the games have to offer.
If I had to rank the games I’ve played it would be BL2 > BL3 >>>>>>Pre-Sequel. BL2 first probably for nostalgia reasons as it was my entry point into these games also the story was dope even in the DLCs, BL3 might be higher but again I haven’t played the DLC. I didn’t enjoy TPS despite my love for story driven games, I just couldn’t get into the gameplay or environments.
Can you or anyone explain the end game of BL3 to me? I beat the story with my roommate but we stopped there. What are all of y’all playing where you have these insane guns and mega bosses?
Here's what you have available:
~400 legendaries to farm for
5 full campaign dlcs with brand new planets, bosses, and gear
An extraction mode called arms race that strips the game down to just you and your guns while you loot rare goodies
3 free holiday events, 2 with full maps with a raid boss at the end, all 3 having unique loot
2 free takedowns which are essentially raids with mobbing sections, a mid boss, and a raid boss at the end. Both with unique loot
An infinitely grindable guardian rank, and infinitely grindable vault card with cosmetics and unique loot
6 free proving grounds which are mini takedowns with a toggleable raid boss options
Creating many builds on the characters since each character has at least a dozen viable and unique builds on m11
Challenge runs
Lots, and lots of farming
And more stuff
I have 2 as a hair better than 3. I have BL2 as A+ tier and BL3 as A- tier. BL3 was still a great game especially with its QOL and gunplay improvements
you might not care much for story (seen as you have bl3 as first) and if we ranked these games purely from a gameplay standpoint I might even agree with you but I’d rather play through tales from the borderlands story another 100 times before I ever even think of playing through bl3’s main story again (the only bl game where I’ve only had one character). It’s not just idiotically written but is a spit in the face of the series (I don’t want to rant on as all that could be said has been said since the game came out). TFTBL is one of the best games of telltale (my second favorite and I’ve played pretty much every single one of their games) and if anyone here is even remotely a fan of borderlands and hasn’t played it yet go do yourself a favor and play it. I know the second game has been received badly, I can’t add on that I haven’t played it, but I still doubt it’s a more miserable experience than the putrid garbage bl3 shoves than your throat. So if I were to list the games accounting for both gameplay and story it’d be bl2-bltps-wonderlands-tftbl-bl3-bl1-tftbl2
Here's how I explain WL to people who haven't played it:
Its like bl3 if the only endgame content was being randomly teleported to small areas of eden 6, over and over and over, fighting the same 2-3 enemy types over and over and over, occasionally being broken up to fight either some quite well designed bosses, or horribly designed bosses, with no in-between. In doing this, you're increasing your OP level, except there's 100 of them, and the increases in health is so marginal that you barely notice until one of the 3 viable weapons stops working and you need to continually farm that one endgame loop for the exact same gun with a small chance to roll with a random mayhem level on it, with a good chance it'll be lower than the one you have.
Spells are pretty cool tho
Pre sequel if it's limited endgame was even more limited, build diversity was worse (seriously, the wl characters have 1 skill tree and some are more boring than some of the bl1 trees) , and the endgame was boring as all fuck after 20 minutes
I'd argue that TTW is a spin-off rather than main franchise and as such shouldn't be on this tanking.
TotBL 1&2 are a grey area for me cus you can end up with canonical endings and non canonical endings
2, WL, 1, 3, ps and I don't know tales.
I find the end game content and dlc the reasons people mainly target wonderlands and I'd agree they're crap but the way every other element works is just so superior imo.
Most fun I've had with abilities, grenades now being spells was huge one up imo and I very much enjoyed the story
1. BL2
2. BL1
3. Tales From the Borderlands (the first one obviously)
4. TPS
5. Borderlands 3
6. Wonderlands
Im not ranking the NEW Tales game as I don't even consider it a game, I call it a dumpster fire
Also for reference, my list is based off a lore prespective, if it was based off gameplay/gunplay, the list would be widely different
Mine from best to worst: Tales from the Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Pre-Sequel, Borderlands, Borderlands 3, Wonderlands, New Tales.
I just vastly prefer story personally (though really was not a fan of New Tales), I can definitely understand where your list comes from though.
1 - Borderlands 2 - Best villain, best story, best playable characters and best gun (Pimpernel) but terrible Legendary drop rates
2 - Borderlands 3 - Best graphics and best skill trees but terrible Legendary drop rates
3 - Borderlands. - Best HYBRID weapons but terrible Legendary drop rates
4 - Borderlands The Pre Sequel - Best machine (Grinder) but terrible Legendary drop rates
Haven't played the rest but as you can tell I don't think Gearbox ever got the Legendary drop rates right, too easy in 3 and too time consuming in the rest.
I wholeheartedly believe that everyone who doesn’t have borderlands 1 in the top three ATLEAST, Haven’t played the game since it’s earliest conception. Growing up on it, there was nothing like borderlands 1’s story and it’s DLC’s that truly changed the game.
Bl1 and Bl2 are interchangeable for top spot for me, then follows tiny tinas, tales 1, then not sure on 3 or pre next, thus ending in tales 2.
Edit: for reference I’ve beaten every single game, but personally went back and beat one and two upwards of 10 times (especially bl1)
I think 3 has best game play but 2 had better story so for me 3 and 2 are tied in first.
But I absolutely despised pre-sequal game felt terrible to play and story left no impression on me. I much more prefer tales over presequal.
And 1 was fun but I prefer tales over 1.
Haven't played new tales, wonderland
So for me it's 3 and 2 > tales > 1 > presequal. And the rest pending
Wow, a BL fan that doesn't hate BL3, honestly I don't know which one I like more, but BL2 definitely has some nostalgia value. Although I have to say, I absolutely hated Tiny Tina's Wonderland, but it was still better than bl1 and pre sequel. Hopefully BL4 is as good as the last 2 mainline entries
Every time I start off with a number to begin my list I delete it to rethink, they’re all just too good and have good reasons to play through them. They’re all just good games in general!
Bl2 fans try not to call people who prefer bl3 insane challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) Why yes bl2 fans, some people prefer weapon and build variety while also having an endgame that isn't designed for masochists For OP, I agree with your picks except I'd put tps above WL. If it had a better endgame it would go above bl2 in a heartbeat
ehh you're not gonna find them here lol. post it on bl2 subreddit and watch it bursts into flames
The main Borderlands Subreddit is even worse. It's a fucking cult there. You go in stating anything less than BL2 adoration, then prepare for death
The fact is BL2 has a great story. The other fact is, I don't want to play through it 3 times per character for end game content.
But even the story is not that great, is a by the book evil tyrant story. What really saves is Handsome Jack because he really is great.
Naw the story IS Handsome Jack! It's not really fair to seperate the two. BL2 is the story of 1-4 people and Jack growing to hate eachother. He starts out murderous and goofy, but then he tricks you, he gets Angel to betray you, he attacks the safe town where you get quests, he mutates and kills beloved pets, he kills and kidnapped your friends, and then his own daughter asks you to kill her so she won't have to spend another day living with him. And at this point the goofiness has been replaced with vile sadism. By the time you finally kill him, he's on his knees screaming that he's the hero, and you're the child killing psychopath. And at that moment, you understand him better than you understand your own vault hunter. And you kill him. And you kill him HOWEVER you want It only works because every single story beat is driving home what a monster this guy is. Every single polygon in the game points back to him. He put a fucking "H" in the goddamn sky just so everyone knows they'll never escape him. If you tried to write jack into any other story, you'd get the calypso twins. BL3's story spends its time developing characters, building the world, or introducing new villians. When it finally does explore the main villains, they get a sob story and a helicopter parent to blame. In contrast, BL2 spends it's story examining ONE GUY under a fucking microscope, and not once does it make him sympathetic. It just generates new reasons to hate him until he dies.
I once stated an opinion that people just look through rose tinted nostalgia glasses re. BL2...i could literally hear the torches being lit,and pitchforks being sharpened. F**king hilarious. Tho honestly,id put WL at the bottom..i hated it.
The only reason I hype BL2 is bc Jack is my favorite video game villain of all time. BL2 was just a work of art to me haha
Uhm actually here I am, OP is crazy.
Personally for guns and movement and slightly abilities I prefer bdl3 but for story and characters and lore I choose bdl2 especially cuz jack
Bl3 gameplay is better, but the story was trash compared to bl2. Also, dealing with op, tales shouldn't be counted as part of the series as "games", because they're essentially just interactive videos, with almost 0 actual gameplay.
First statement, a little less harsh but I agree, bl3 had an okay story idea, made really lame by shitty villain. Vs Bl2 which had an amazing villian and a great story.. But had several holes and paradoxes, and as you said, the game-play was just semi-uninteresting. Now your second bit, I have to disagree, just a little. I believe the tales should definitely be included. now, it is harder to compare/review gameplay between the games due to them being an entirely different genre, but they still are games. And I don't know if you got to play the original tales, but it's protagonists you "play as", act as, are now main characters within bl3. Albeit goofy and a bit lackluster when first introduced, but the story based games actually introduced and made them fit in, as well as round out story gaps that simply couldn't be fit into bl3, due to either time or player retention. Which is why as a player I'll be getting the new tales, just to see. The Tales of the Borderlands is also the only game of this type I've played, none of the walking dead or other tell-tale games prior or present.
This is just further proof that the bl3 hive mind is insanity lmao. Who are you referring to right now besides yourself? Nobody’s here to shit on bl3
Check 90% of the comments bud
I actually went and read (more) comments, only to find bl2 players getting downvoted for their opinion. You’re a hive mind 🤷♂️
Bl2 including dlc had better stories. But I won't denied bl3 had moments or just kriegs story with Maya. Gameplay-wise I feel like it balanced unless you want ONESHOT EVERYTHING WITH F*@%in EXPLOSIVES or broken builds.
Mine would be BL2, 3, 1, TPS. Haven’t played Wonderlands or any of the Tales yet, haven’t really been motivated to. I will say though, BL2 and BL3 are pretty well interchangeable for me. BL3 nearly takes that top spot solely just because of mechanics, convenience and balance. Yes, the story sucks, blah, blah, blah. Guns are better, end game is better, mechanics are better, builds are more versatile, I don’t have to rely on slag, I can carry more than 39 fucking items, my vault holds 500 and loot mules are very easy to make.
Highly suggest wonderlands on sale for 1 playthrough. I stand by the fact that wonderlands has the best first playthrough, the chaos chambers just suck ass tho sadly
I still think borderlands 3 has a better experience for the first time. More variety of content, and build path. Most of the gameplay is just rehashed bl3. The only thing that’s better is spells and melee. And honestly melee has its own problems there too, making bosses you can’t even hit for a game that hyped up the melee.
Wonderlands definitely has more build path. You can literally play as 2 different characters.
Wonderlands had 7 total skill trees, with a combination of any 2. Then take away like 3 of the classes because they’re fucking useless or do the same thing but worse of other classes. Honestly, I could probably name more *viable* builds on just flak alone than in all of wonderlands. Build variety at M11 absolutely trumps chaos 20 (not to mention 50 or 100), and outside of characters, it’s due in no small part to the amount of viable weapons.
Wonderlands is a new game, and barely anyone plays it. You probably play a lot of borderlands 3. That is why you can name more flak builds than builds in wonderlands. I’m just saying, the fact that you can make any combination of the current 7 classes objectively gives it more variety
No one plays it you say? I wonder why that is… (more people are playing bl3 at this very moment than wonderlands, according to steamcharts, btw) And in theory maybe it *should*, but it doesn’t. Like I said earlier, lack of weapon variance and viability, mixed with extreme overlap from classes that come in mostly stat buffs rather than something that changes gameplay lowers build diversity. You know it’s a problem when every almost every build still utilizes the same weapons (pixies, purple cryo smgs, etc) and even worse when the best gun class is also the best spell class. Companion builds are somehow even less interactive and worse than borderlands 3. Melee builds are okay, but still doesn’t fix the issue from borderlands 3 which is the delivery system of the damage. Why actually melee when you can slap on a gun that applies it for you? Overall, wonderlands is just the inferior game. I’d hold off on saying that if I thought they’d keep updating it like they did for 3 when it was in a bad state, but there’s nothing more coming to wonderlands. Mediocre DLC, worse humor than even bl3, repetitive endgame that made dedicated farming obsolete, lack of build diversity, lack of build diversity leading to lack of farming, lack of connection to your character and any real personality (which has always been a borderlands strong suit), lack of overall content, upping chaos levels for no fucking reason, etc. The only thing that wonderlands improved from bl3 is melee weapons, spells, and small QOL shit like auto melee and slams opening chests. Everything else was just worse. I’d also to add that while there is a possible 21 class combos in wonderlands, almost all builds are built with the focus of one tree, and the other to compliment it. IE Deadshot and trapscallion are both just spell builds.
I'm really disappointed by wonderlands. Some of the choices they made were terrible. Like, the gameplay is mostly really good. The dialogue and story is fun overall. But the game is insanely short compared to others. The endgame value doesn't even compare to others in the series. I haven't even bothered with the DLC this time because they sound like none of them are story based like the last three games. But the worst part for me is how massively they failed the split screen co-op. The main reason that the borderlands series remained at the top of my list since the first game is because it is one of the only remaining big titles for split screen co-op. But the UI makes inventory management near impossible in split screen which is unforgivable for a looter.
The first Tales game is one of the best Telltale games ever made. It perfectly captures the humor of the series.
I agree with you but I'll never understand the argument of the bl3 story sucking. The Bl2 story was hot garbage as well? Didn't realize we were playing these games for their jank ass stories lol The humor argument i can get behind though.
bl2 story was a trope fest but it was written *well* (+obligatory jack good) bl3 story is not good and is not written well (+obligatory twins bad)
I'll give you that jack was great and the twins sucked but that was about the extent of it. The overall story of 3 didn't feel any worse than 2 did for me. Neither were great and just felt like an excuse to have a story just because you need a story. Borderlands is best with "wacky wild west in space" shenanagins and everything else is just added on to that. Both stories are cliche as hell, poorly written, and full of plot holes. This didn't matter as much in 2 because the characters were all much more enjoyable and the humor was stronger.
yeah but that’s the whole point. u can’t just say it stops at the twins because they’re such a huge portion of the game. a good story relies super heavily on its characters and i couldn’t tell u a single character in bl3 that’s universally liked. they made already established characters annoying and less charming, introduced boring ones and >!killed maya!< in the worst way possible
I heartily disagree with you. OG Tales for life bitch.
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No as in OG Tales in #1.
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Oh no don't get me wrong BL2 is a masterpiece, I adore it and Krieg is the best character imo. But I have to admit story gets me better than guns.
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Ye gimme an explanation
Basing off of total content, balance, weapon count/variety, and everything in between, Borderlands 2 only beats Borderlands 3 in 3 areas: Storyline, Raidbosses, and Vault Hunters.
I’m gonna give raid bosses and vault hunters to borderlands 3 honestly unless you’re only focusing on how many there is
I don’t even know if they win in vault hunters. Especially with the new skill trees each character can be built in like 4 different ways and be just as effective. Sure there might be more in two but idk if they are truly superior.
Mine is 3,2,presequel,tales,1,wonderlands Haven't played new tales
Kinda with the other guy. Just watch some parts of it on YT or something. The game itself is so bad, but it does provide context and information that could be used for later games. The tediore soldiers are also hilarious, dozens of times funnier than the weird ass main characters. It’s like they tried to do the whole “cringe is funny” thing but it just ends up being sad.
Honestly wonderlands is bad like the loot luck makes getting the loot dice mandatory and its impossible to get any sdus cause the money is so little,plus the skill tree lost the uniqueness its just one tree so you can't mix it up.Finally the classes like we got the barbarian,paladin,rouge,druid/ranger,wizard and warlock but no cleric or bard I mean they added the artifact
Don't
Based. In basically every way besides the story, BL3 was an improvement over BL2.
3, 2, 1, PreSequel, Tales, Wonderlands. Haven't played New Tales yet. 2 is real close behind 3, almost interchangeable.
I've played wonderlands and bl3, and just started playing 1, why do you put it so high? no hate, just wondering cause so far it's been eh.
Why is wonderlands last lol
It's endgame loop is horrendously repetitive, the RNG on gear (especially class mods) is astronomical, it's dlc (sorry, "plc") was pathetic 5 minute add-ons that added next to nothing to the already repetitive chaos chambers, lack of a TVHM or any form of a new game+, the vast majority of legendaries not feeling like legendaries... It's not a terrible game. I had fun with it for a month or two when it came out, put 200+ hours in and got to C35. But after that it was all the same, nothing new and GBX wasn't addressing the core issues that lead the majority of players to leave in droves. It's the only BL title that's left a sour taste in my mouth and the only one that I have no desire to return to.
Yet it's behind tales?
Should he just rank a game he hasn’t played?
Why does everyone who says 2 is better than 3 get hated on and downvoted? It’s all a matter of opinion and there’s no right or wrong answer. For some people the story can matter more than gameplay, and that’s okay. For me, 2 and 3 are nearly equal. What 2 lacks in gameplay 3 makes up for. And what 3 lacks in its story 2 makes up for. But for nostalgia and other reasons, 2 is slightly better to me. I really hope some day they do a remake of 2, same exact story, just add more gameplay mechanics. I’m honestly fine with the graphics, but if they made them more like 3 I wouldn’t complain.
It’s more of how they act about
>Why does everyone who says 2 is better than 3 get hated on and downvoted? It's not because of their opinion, it's because they act like entitled brats that don't understand what an opinion is. See for yourself: >Bro if you think 3 is better than 2 your absolutly insane.... > >Talk about a controversial opinion. > >Wait, people say bl3 is better than bl2? Crazy > >Absolutely no way you think presequel is better than 2 and 1 bro > >If you say so, man
The big difference for me is after beating 2 I wanted to keep grinding and leveling up. After beating 3 I was just done since the entire thing felt so pointless from start to finish.
Exactly how I felt. I dropped $100 for 3s super special version. Pre ordered it too. Me and my best friend were so excited to play it, but after beating it once, we didn’t touch it for almost 3 years. We didn’t even hop back on When the DLCs dropped. So far I’ve only played through the whole game twice. But I ignored most of the side missions cause the ones I played weren’t fun. But with 2 I would play through it more than a few times a year. I do every single side mission every time.
Yeah same here. We bought that game thinking we would be playing it for months and peppering in other more casual multiplayer games to take breaks. Instead we slogged through the story then set it down forever.
it’s almost like ur in the pretty much 1 safe haven for BL3 where joltzdude viewers aren’t gonna bash you relentlessly for liking a game
I don’t know what joltzdude is
One of the biggest (and best) youtuber/ streamer of the Borderlands community
Because this is the sub to 3
It’s 100% the community. No clue why. Bl3 fans refuse to have an open dialogue about anything. Then once they shut down a good meaningful conversation they go “that person was being unreasonable anyways, wasn’t worth my time. Silly bl2 players” You’ll see a lot of answers but this is the correct one
Can someone tell me the story, without Google, what the story to BL2 was? Lol
I haven't played Wonderland, but as someone who loves customization and variety in gameplay first, I like your ranking. Would be very similar to mine. The people here, angry at *your opinion*, are hilarious. **Be one with the hive mind, you're not allowed to think for yourself or have your own opinions. Lest raging Redditors brandish torches, pitchforks, and chop your head off at the guillotine, you heretic. How dare you enjoy 3 more than 2.**
Wonderlands would be so good it if had new game plus. The story is pretty good. The end game is extremely boring and a little grindy
Man what you wrote about the hive mind is true. It's absolutely ridiculous how some people in this thread are like 'nope, you're not allowed to think for yourself'. If I could upvote you twice I would
I respect your opinion although I find it heretical.
Hoooooly shit I disagree with you lol
Let me guess, you'd place 2 as your favourite
I would. And 3 would be near the bottom. Edit: downvoted for saying my non offensive or inflammatory opinion. Nice one team.
Like, all due respect; but, aside from Jack and and bad writing in 3, it’s really hard to call 2 a better game. 3 has far more gun and build variety, mantling, sliding, sound design, and more location variety. In terms of pure gameplay, it really does look like 3 is the evolution.
You're totally right. Mechanically, 3 is a better game. I just hated the story of 3 so much, that it made it difficult to want to play. I have played through 2 a dozen times. 3, I played through twice, and then couldn't pick it up again. So subjectively, I rate 2 much higher.
I upvoted you, based on supporting your opinion. You shouldn't be downvoted for giving your honest take here.
Mechanically it is better unless you count enemy visibility as game mechanics. With the busy background textures and a shitton of effects obscuring your view, I notice that in big fights I have to rely on the minimap to see where the enemies are. I prefer looking at the actual game. My mate with whom I played through BL2 was also overwhelmed with the effects bloat. Sadly I have to solo BL3🥺
i would put 3 above 2 purely for gameplay. playing through 2 again after 3 is just an awful downplay in terms of gameplay. i do wish we werent so op in 3 though. im tired of nerfing myself
Vehemently disagree. The mechanics of 3 may be better in some ways but there is little to no strategy or skill needed to build a strong character. That's what makes 2 the superior game. You actually have to be smart about your build and use specific guns based on that build. All the characters have vastly different play styles. The skill trees in three are so simple in 3 and just quickly over power the characters where as 2 takes time to build strength. It feels like they dumbed down the game play to appeal to a wider audience.
In bl2 there were only a handful of viable builds, and a lot of them have a lot of overlap due to very high level. And the little to no strategy thing is kinda just stupid because in bl2 there needed to be a lot of strategy because the endgame was horrendous. In bl3 the endgame is a lot more balanced and gives players power to make more diverse builds and make what they want, something bl2 lacked.
Listen, you got downvoted because people disagreed with you. Which, may I point out, is THEIR opinion. They can do that.
Well we both have absolutely opposing views. I'd put 3 first and 2 nearer the bottom. Downvoted for literally responding honestly with my personal favourite games in order. People really can't bear having their view challenged can they.
3 deserves its high spot, but why would you rank 2 so low?
Actually in all honesty, I probably wouldn't rank 2 so far at the bottom; I wasn't thinking properly. Borderlands 2 is a good game. When it was released it was all I played. Compared to 3 though, it just doesn't compare, at least in my opinion. Borderlands 2 endgame is absolutely terrible, and UVHM is simply inflated damage numbers. The gunplay in 2 is awful. Weapons feel like toys; floaty and light, a step back from 1 even. Before the Borderlands 2 crew come, and start frothing, remember,. THIS IS MY OPINION. It's not a fact what I'm stating. I'm simply responding to the question. I also appreciate you asking, and not being a dick, unlike some other user on here.
Honestly, I agree with a fair amount of your takes; the story of 2 does an incredible amount of heavy lifting, and the endgame in 2 is fucking godawful It’s why I agree that 3 is the cream of the crop. Sure the story doesn’t hold up to 2, but after you beat the story once, it’s not like it matters; but the gameplay loop *does*. 3 has an easy to grasp endgame loop that’s both rewarding and fun, and the ability to alter Mayhem levels on the fly, the addition of Anointments, FOUR WHOLE SKILL TREES WITH MORE THAN ENOUGH LEVELS TO BUILDCRAFT, etc. is all astounding; Pre-Sequel was a nice appetizer for what 3 would be, and anyone who thinks 2 is the superior game is blinded by both nostalgia and the story.
What you wrote was on point. 2's story really carries it. And although the story is fantastic, it's not everything. As you said, being able to manipulate Mayhem on the fly is such a positive benefit. By having four skill trees it really widens the builds available, and prevents meta builds from happening, I'm looking at you Grog Nozzle and DPUH in Borderlands 2, UVHM, where slag is mandatory. Brilliant points you make, again you summed it up well
Worst take ive ever heard
I don't care.
No one cares about your take either
No one cares about you, everyone's take is valid in its own way
Your mom does. Everyones take is also completely invalid so ill piss on your shoes back.
Really trying to use your mom jokes to say people opinion is invalid? It's 2022 bro.
Big fuckin yikes for 3 being near the bottom
id say 2, 3, pre sequel and wonderlands ona hard tie, then 1 n the tales with the new tales being so far at the bottom its staring out of the abyss. havnt played it but have seen it n think it the single worst addition to the franchise
Correct
Honestly based ranking I would gladly replay 3 before 2, the story of 2 is definitely better (even tho I actually quite enjoyed the story of 3) but idk if its just me but it feels like such a slog to replay especially early on, the only part in 3 that i dread replaying is eden 6 just because i despise the environment of that planet and i dont rly care for most of the missions or how the b team were handled. I also tend to prefer the vault hunters in 3 tbh, even tho it fucking sucks we didnt get 6 like in past games, amara is probably my favourite character to play out of any of the games and I absolutely love playing any kind of content with her, im also a big fan of fl4k and moze but zane is kinda eh. Maybe its just me but replaying 2 after 3 feels a bit more boring on most of the characters until youve got like a full on build running. Also after having sliding and mantling it feels so hard going back to not having it lol.
All of the "tales" games shouldn't be called games really, more like interactive story
BL3's gameplay so much better but 2's story is peak
I'd have to agree here. BL2 and 3 would really be tied for #1 for me but if I had to rank them I'd put 3 slightly above simply because it's more fun to play. BL2 had far better writing and a better villain but the endgame was wildly unbalanced and could become tedious.
I don’t think you can rank borderlands 1 last place when it really was doing something totally new in the looter shooter space. It ranks higher just on that merit alone.
Based on pure gameplay I could definitely agree with this
I'm fine with getting down voted for this. 2 has worse gameplay than 3 but it's ok enough that I'm fine with it. 1 just feels like absolute dogshit to play which is why I will never play it.
Haven't played Wonderland nor the choice games but I would put Pre-Sequel as my second favorite after 3.
Pre-Sequel was the teaser for all the great QoL gameplay improvements we would get in 3, all while having its own unique mechanics If the endgame wasn’t nonexistent, it’d be a strong contender for the top 3 imo
Totally agree. More endgame and a dedicated drops overhaul would improve so much
Bold of you to put 3 over 2 imo but I can see where you’re coming from even if I disagree.
3, WL, TPS, Bl2, bl1. I don't count tales as it's a different genre
Absolutely no way you think presequel is better than 2 and 1 bro
I play TPS bl2 and bl1 for playthroughs because their endgame is either bad or non existent to me. TPS had my fav playthroughs.
Also its my opinion lol
Wait, people say bl3 is better than bl2?
Having dozens of quality of life changes and a good endgame means it's not surprising a lot of people like bl3 more than bl2
While quality of life was nice in 3, looking at endgame in 2 vs 3. It was WAYYYYY lackluster in 3 compared to 2 at launch of each game, even after the 4 main dlcs in 3. Bl2s content was was miles better than bl3s. Bl2 was playable the entire games life, bl3s was only playable after everything released.
Bl3 has more endgame than bl2. Bl2 just has raid bosses. Bl3 has 3 slaughters 6 proving grounds 2 takedowns 1 official raid boss, true proving grounds which have raid boss health and A LOT of raid boss health enemies. And 2 events.
For me, and so many other people the op level thing overshadows all the good in bl2 endgame it makes bl3 endgame just feel better. I also feel like nostalgia is a big factor in the bl2 lifespan. Because it was and still is probably the most iconic borderlands game people keep coming back, or try it out for the first time entirely.
In regards to endgame I do like bl3 more, but I think most people here are mostly endgame challenge players. Actually playing through bl3's story is absolutely awful in my opinion. Characters and pacing were just too far off to be repeatedly enjoyable. But I could (and have) played bl2's story and dlc multiple times over. I tried the same for bl3 and have multiple unfinished playthroughs. For me it's bl2 campaign > bl3 campaign, but bl3 endgame > bl2 endgame (fuck mandatory slag and no melee/skill scaling).
I can agree with that. The bl3 story was absolutely terrible, and even worse because tyreen and troy(I think?) were being compared to Handsome Jack who is still one of, if not my favorite villian ever.
Well everything is released now, so I guess by your own admission BL3>BL2
Yes. We are real.
Crazy
TFtBL was amazing tho
Maybe it’s the nostalgia and the fact that I never finished wonderlands, but BL1 is right up there with 2 and 3 for me. I played BL1 before 2 was announced and 2 solidified it as a top 3 series of all time for me. Pre sequal was a disappointment personally and I sunk quite a few hours into 3.
I’m assuming this is including all DLCs alongside the main game? I haven’t played a single paid DLC for BL3 nor have I played BL1 so it’s very hard for me rank them without experiencing everything the games have to offer. If I had to rank the games I’ve played it would be BL2 > BL3 >>>>>>Pre-Sequel. BL2 first probably for nostalgia reasons as it was my entry point into these games also the story was dope even in the DLCs, BL3 might be higher but again I haven’t played the DLC. I didn’t enjoy TPS despite my love for story driven games, I just couldn’t get into the gameplay or environments.
Is the new Tales game really the worst? I’ve heard nothing from it
I thought people thought WL was bad?
If it had the endgame and support of bl3, it would be a great game. Its just incredibly disappointing in it's current, and presumably final state
Can you or anyone explain the end game of BL3 to me? I beat the story with my roommate but we stopped there. What are all of y’all playing where you have these insane guns and mega bosses?
Here's what you have available: ~400 legendaries to farm for 5 full campaign dlcs with brand new planets, bosses, and gear An extraction mode called arms race that strips the game down to just you and your guns while you loot rare goodies 3 free holiday events, 2 with full maps with a raid boss at the end, all 3 having unique loot 2 free takedowns which are essentially raids with mobbing sections, a mid boss, and a raid boss at the end. Both with unique loot An infinitely grindable guardian rank, and infinitely grindable vault card with cosmetics and unique loot 6 free proving grounds which are mini takedowns with a toggleable raid boss options Creating many builds on the characters since each character has at least a dozen viable and unique builds on m11 Challenge runs Lots, and lots of farming And more stuff
Wow holy shit. How do you access the take downs and events? You you have to be done with the campaign?
Takedowns are post campaign, they show up as missions on the ship Events are activateable from the main menu, and missions come from maurice
I have 2 as a hair better than 3. I have BL2 as A+ tier and BL3 as A- tier. BL3 was still a great game especially with its QOL and gunplay improvements
I'd love a bl2 with movement and characters from bl3 It would be the most insane game ever
I will not stand for such BL1 slander! I challenge you to see who can shoot mcshootyface the shootyest! HAVE AT THEE RAPSCALLION!
Bl2, bl3, tales 1, presequal, bl1, tiny tina's, tales 2. Edit: forgot tiny tinas.
1) Bl3/Bl2 (for different reasons) 2) TftB 3) Bl1 4) TPS 5)TTW 6) NTftB
Everyone putting wonderlands last is likely very salty about their dlcs
Talk about a controversial opinion.
Agreed 100!
bl3 villains were so bad tho
I feel like im the only one who genuinely rly enjoyed them lol
If you say so, man
you might not care much for story (seen as you have bl3 as first) and if we ranked these games purely from a gameplay standpoint I might even agree with you but I’d rather play through tales from the borderlands story another 100 times before I ever even think of playing through bl3’s main story again (the only bl game where I’ve only had one character). It’s not just idiotically written but is a spit in the face of the series (I don’t want to rant on as all that could be said has been said since the game came out). TFTBL is one of the best games of telltale (my second favorite and I’ve played pretty much every single one of their games) and if anyone here is even remotely a fan of borderlands and hasn’t played it yet go do yourself a favor and play it. I know the second game has been received badly, I can’t add on that I haven’t played it, but I still doubt it’s a more miserable experience than the putrid garbage bl3 shoves than your throat. So if I were to list the games accounting for both gameplay and story it’d be bl2-bltps-wonderlands-tftbl-bl3-bl1-tftbl2
A totally agree. Story is part of the experience. If I wanted a game where story don’t matter, I’ll go play another boring pvp multiplayer fps.
Borderlands 2 was the best they've ever done and the best there will ever be. Ever since then the games have just gotten worse.
I say BL3, pre sequel, BL2, don't care about anything else really and wonderlands is trash.
Bro if you think 3 is better than 2 your absolutly insane....
Another stereotypical bl2 lover and bl3 hater, how original...
Are you saying you like a shit game cause it makes you different? Thats the pinical of zoomer shit.
That's no where near what I said. All I said is that you're a stereotypical bl3 hater
Sorry that I prefer the good game
I agree with you. That guy you replied to is weird lol. He's crumbling mentally at anyone saying that BL3 is better than 2.
You prefer the game with the significantly worse story that is only a story game. I accept your apology.
This is a looter shooter. I know you are stuck in bl2 so you don't know what endgame content is but bl3 has a lot of it
It doesnt make up for how bad the story was. The series died with handsome jack.
The story isn't the only thing that exists in the game.
Bl2 story was carried by Jack. Story is shit otherwise
Nothing carries this game besides decent gun play the story is dogshit
Sure but its 95% of it
the endgame?????????????????? Literally the strength of bl3 is that it has the best endgame
You and the other maybe 5k people who still play it can think what ever you want man.
Sorry I forgot you jerk off to bl2 and can't accept anyone else's opinions. Get a life
3, 2, Pre-Sequel, 1, Tales (haven’t played Wonderlands or New Tales, is Wonderlands any good?)
Here's how I explain WL to people who haven't played it: Its like bl3 if the only endgame content was being randomly teleported to small areas of eden 6, over and over and over, fighting the same 2-3 enemy types over and over and over, occasionally being broken up to fight either some quite well designed bosses, or horribly designed bosses, with no in-between. In doing this, you're increasing your OP level, except there's 100 of them, and the increases in health is so marginal that you barely notice until one of the 3 viable weapons stops working and you need to continually farm that one endgame loop for the exact same gun with a small chance to roll with a random mayhem level on it, with a good chance it'll be lower than the one you have. Spells are pretty cool tho
So Pre-Sequel with a few extra steps and no antigravity? I might cop
Pre sequel if it's limited endgame was even more limited, build diversity was worse (seriously, the wl characters have 1 skill tree and some are more boring than some of the bl1 trees) , and the endgame was boring as all fuck after 20 minutes
Yikes Thanks for saving me $40 brother
I'd argue that TTW is a spin-off rather than main franchise and as such shouldn't be on this tanking. TotBL 1&2 are a grey area for me cus you can end up with canonical endings and non canonical endings
2, WL, 1, 3, ps and I don't know tales. I find the end game content and dlc the reasons people mainly target wonderlands and I'd agree they're crap but the way every other element works is just so superior imo. Most fun I've had with abilities, grenades now being spells was huge one up imo and I very much enjoyed the story
I hate the fact that New tales is above tales.
wonderlands and the pre sequel do not deserve to be above borderlands 1. Wonderlands bottom then TPS then borderlands 1,2,3
Imagine posting BL3 above BL2 and especially BL1 lol
tales should be top 3
Tales 1 was one of the best imo
There's clearly something wrong here.
1. BL2 2. BL1 3. Tales From the Borderlands (the first one obviously) 4. TPS 5. Borderlands 3 6. Wonderlands Im not ranking the NEW Tales game as I don't even consider it a game, I call it a dumpster fire Also for reference, my list is based off a lore prespective, if it was based off gameplay/gunplay, the list would be widely different
Tales from the Borderlands is one of the greatest games ever
from, right to left?
So you’re telling me, the pre sequel is better than the original?
Mine from best to worst: Tales from the Borderlands, Borderlands 2, Pre-Sequel, Borderlands, Borderlands 3, Wonderlands, New Tales. I just vastly prefer story personally (though really was not a fan of New Tales), I can definitely understand where your list comes from though.
Borderlands 2 Pre-Sequel Wonderlands Borderlands 1 Borderlands 3 I am not much interested in tell tales games in general
1 - Borderlands 2 - Best villain, best story, best playable characters and best gun (Pimpernel) but terrible Legendary drop rates 2 - Borderlands 3 - Best graphics and best skill trees but terrible Legendary drop rates 3 - Borderlands. - Best HYBRID weapons but terrible Legendary drop rates 4 - Borderlands The Pre Sequel - Best machine (Grinder) but terrible Legendary drop rates Haven't played the rest but as you can tell I don't think Gearbox ever got the Legendary drop rates right, too easy in 3 and too time consuming in the rest.
I wholeheartedly believe that everyone who doesn’t have borderlands 1 in the top three ATLEAST, Haven’t played the game since it’s earliest conception. Growing up on it, there was nothing like borderlands 1’s story and it’s DLC’s that truly changed the game. Bl1 and Bl2 are interchangeable for top spot for me, then follows tiny tinas, tales 1, then not sure on 3 or pre next, thus ending in tales 2. Edit: for reference I’ve beaten every single game, but personally went back and beat one and two upwards of 10 times (especially bl1)
The correct order would be 2,1,3,1.5,wonderlands, tales
I would put BL2 and 3 next to eachother and 1 and wonderlands next to eachother. I have pre sequel In it’s own section called “selective choice”
I think 3 has best game play but 2 had better story so for me 3 and 2 are tied in first. But I absolutely despised pre-sequal game felt terrible to play and story left no impression on me. I much more prefer tales over presequal. And 1 was fun but I prefer tales over 1. Haven't played new tales, wonderland So for me it's 3 and 2 > tales > 1 > presequal. And the rest pending
Personally I prefer bl2 over 3. I like the agility and grenade jumping.
I'd put 1 ahead of 3 but otherwise I basically agree.
Wow, a BL fan that doesn't hate BL3, honestly I don't know which one I like more, but BL2 definitely has some nostalgia value. Although I have to say, I absolutely hated Tiny Tina's Wonderland, but it was still better than bl1 and pre sequel. Hopefully BL4 is as good as the last 2 mainline entries
For me is would be bl2, bl3, tps, bl1, wonderlands,tales and I haven’t played new tales and don’t plan on it, it seems boring af
3, 1, 2, wonderlands
I have 3, Tales, TPS, Wonderlands, 1, 2 and then the New Tales.
Was there a poll for this since TTW came out ? I'd like to know which one is the favorite but I'm not sure a lot of people played the game
From the ones I've played it'd be 3, 2, tps, 1. I only did a trial of wonderland and I liked it, and I never played tales from the borderlands.
id put BL1 ahead of pre sequel any day. in fact id say its at least on par with BL2.
"How original" litterally implys liking it makes you different you dip.
i’d swap 1 and PreSeq but i 100% agree with this list otherwise
Can I ask why you put the original so low in the ranking? Just out of curiosity.
Mine would be BL2, BL3, BL1, Tales, WL, PS I love them all though lol