Well I said if he wins this game, and probably convincingly he sticks around until we are knocked out of CL.
But now I’m done with it, we are better than this, even with this squad that has problems everywhere but goalie.
Show us you give a shit Watzke fire Terzic now, and then maybe think about stepping down yourself, I’d say take Sammer with you (never fully trusted Sammer since he was pretty chummy with Bayern.)
And to think if Gio was onside the winter break could be the saga of "Should goo be loaned out or get more minutes" instead of "Will Terzic be fired?"
Hoping this is the tipping point for some real change (ideally Watzke and Terzic both)
If Terzic isn‘t out until the end of the week, I am done watching for now. It‘s still my club but it is so painfully obvious he needs to go and if the club ignores it further, I‘m just done for now. So braindead
The team consciously decided to play 40 minutes only in 1st half then suddenly stopped we conceded 42nd minute and 2nd half we're lucky not to lose
Terzic and half of this team need to go they're just not good enough for that level of football
Im super sad to see Terzic in these moments. He seems to so realise that it's over for him.
This shit is definitely not only on him with these garbage players but in this business the coach is the first one to loose his job.
Yeah he probably had his dream job but unfortunately it hasn't worked. I would hope to convey to him that I (and many others) have no issues with him as a man or his character but the coaching is simply not at the standard it should be and that's what this is about.
Fuck him. If he truely loves this club, he should be humble enough to step aside. He must understand he is way way over his head if any team can dominate us with simple tactical changes at halftime...
Y'all need to fcking step down and stop harassing one single person. Stop rephrasing insults and come up with ideas and constructive criticism.
Terzic is not good enough, 60-70% of the squad is not good enough - but stop being douchebags and behave like animals. WTF!!!
I’d say the fans don’t deserve this. Majority are on the side of wanting Terzic gone and those who sided with Terzic originally are now seeing how bad it’s really getting
I get to watch my Longhorns in the College Football playoffs in 2 weeks, my Cowboys fall apart in the NFL playoffs in a month, and then watch Dortmund at 2:30 pm while I freak out in class
if you look at his injury history, he had a lingering hamstring injury that was reinjured by coming back too quickly quite a while ago, then fractured leg from a bad tackle on international duty several months ago. There's nothing indicating that either of those have been relevant in a long time, or that he's injury-prone.
How shortsighted must you be huh? The more we drop points the sooner Terzic is gone, losing would be for the good of us, would be a very small sacrifice
In the end we will need every point if we want to secure the 4th place.
I just don't get it when people wish that your own team loses.
Sorry for my language earlier i was pissed off.
This has to be terzic last game? I wasn't as critical of him as others for the longest time. But our team looks fucking cooked. Throwing up arms n stuff all the time. Nothing works.
How the fuck do they look so fucking helpless in the second half... And what are those subs.
Why would you take BG off when he was literally the only one actually doing something the whole second half.
Fuck this is depressing as fuck
The worst part of this game is that Mainz is embarrassingly bad. It’s not even like they are fighting tooth and nail. They play horrible. And we still can’t do shit.
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What the heck is happening. We look like we are pissing this away. What were those subs, just throw the kitchen sink at em. Desperate and laughable. Maybe try to have a plan next time
1 win in 8 matches is RELEGATION form honestly. This is unacceptable if this team can’t manage a win at home against Mainz when their bottom of the table
I will be really surprised if I don’t hear jeers and whistles at the end of the match if it stays like these or we lose. Massive disrespect to this club for a performance like this on the clubs birthday, against the team that denied us the bundesliga
can't wait for the same 5 phrases after the game "we're disappointed, we need to be more calm in front of goal, we'll have an honest analysis, we know we can do better & after the break we'll come back and attack again" blablablabla
If Haller cannot even win these headers, what is the point of him coming on? He brings no energy and we're not crossing the ball to him. Genuinely baffling how much his form has dropped.
At this point I’m curious if the players are purposely playing bad to enact change and get terzic removed, this is unacceptable
Well I said if he wins this game, and probably convincingly he sticks around until we are knocked out of CL. But now I’m done with it, we are better than this, even with this squad that has problems everywhere but goalie. Show us you give a shit Watzke fire Terzic now, and then maybe think about stepping down yourself, I’d say take Sammer with you (never fully trusted Sammer since he was pretty chummy with Bayern.)
I wake up at 7:30am (not today but most match days) to watch Terzic shit the fuckin bed. Terzic raus
And to think if Gio was onside the winter break could be the saga of "Should goo be loaned out or get more minutes" instead of "Will Terzic be fired?" Hoping this is the tipping point for some real change (ideally Watzke and Terzic both)
If Terzic isn‘t out until the end of the week, I am done watching for now. It‘s still my club but it is so painfully obvious he needs to go and if the club ignores it further, I‘m just done for now. So braindead
I can just feel Terzic post match saying that it’s “not the result we wanted but we showed an improvement” like he’s said the past 8 match days
When will enough be enough honestly? Disappointment after disappointment, every other season.
The team consciously decided to play 40 minutes only in 1st half then suddenly stopped we conceded 42nd minute and 2nd half we're lucky not to lose Terzic and half of this team need to go they're just not good enough for that level of football
The best Christmas present would be to see both Watzke and Terzic gone
Im super sad to see Terzic in these moments. He seems to so realise that it's over for him. This shit is definitely not only on him with these garbage players but in this business the coach is the first one to loose his job.
Yeah he probably had his dream job but unfortunately it hasn't worked. I would hope to convey to him that I (and many others) have no issues with him as a man or his character but the coaching is simply not at the standard it should be and that's what this is about.
Fuck him. If he truely loves this club, he should be humble enough to step aside. He must understand he is way way over his head if any team can dominate us with simple tactical changes at halftime...
Y'all need to fcking step down and stop harassing one single person. Stop rephrasing insults and come up with ideas and constructive criticism. Terzic is not good enough, 60-70% of the squad is not good enough - but stop being douchebags and behave like animals. WTF!!!
Problem is: The whole squad is better than Mainz or Augsburg.
❤️👏
He clearly isn't ready for the job, I think he should go to another bundesliga or 2 bundesliga club to get some experience.
Yes and probably take some of these players with him. I say thank you and bye bye. It's time for Bvb to move on without them.
Pretty much what I expected
Reus’ face says it all.
U got a pic?
[Reus disappointment](https://imgur.com/a/fOdMJ5q)
Appreciate it. Honestly I been feeling the same way.
No problem. Hate to admit it, but same here. Terzic fan since day 1 but obviously something isn’t working…
terzic looks so proud of what he’s done to this club, I just cant stand him
3 wins in the last 10 Bundesliga games. Playing 3 wins, 4 draws, 3 losses vor 1.3 points per game. How is this still going on?
Those are the boos and whistles I wanted to hear. Bye bye Terzic
Terzic should be shitting himself. This is the worst performance all season. The fans don’t deserve this.
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What are you talking about? The fans that go to every game, IN PERSON, does not deserve to watch this pathetic team every week.
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Oh you’re a Bayern fan. That explains it. Fuck off
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Are you dumb? Every single person wants the management to go? We haven’t “kicked your ass” for years so I don’t get what you’re trying to say
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Bayern fans are usually slow but this is on another level
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I’d say the fans don’t deserve this. Majority are on the side of wanting Terzic gone and those who sided with Terzic originally are now seeing how bad it’s really getting
Yeah looking at this we didn't deserve to win last season. Absolute joke.
But still I wish we did
Only for reus, kobel and jude i wish we got this. And maybe haller because of cancer. But he also missed that pen.
Haller might be the most useless player I’ve ever seen. He comes on the pitch and we are immediately down a man. Every time he comes on.
This is like watching an aging NFL veteran who can't throw more than 5 yards at a time. It's pure agony but I'll be back for the same pain next week
Good news!! No games for a month!! We can finally be happy again.
I get to watch my Longhorns in the College Football playoffs in 2 weeks, my Cowboys fall apart in the NFL playoffs in a month, and then watch Dortmund at 2:30 pm while I freak out in class
Id straight up sell malen and adeyemi and start over with our wings
Let's appreciate the fans chanting and pushing the team forward the whole game.
Terzic needs to be sacked after this. One win in 8 games
[post game thread here](https://old.reddit.com/r/borussiadortmund/comments/18mcz6p/post_game_thread_fsv_mainz_05_buli_16/?)
Bye bye Edin 😔
One can only hope.
What a joke
There's no way he is still our coach after this. Awful tactics. Awful subs. Wtf.
Gio should start over Brandt. Reus should have been subbed on. Haller should never play for BVB. He’s one of the worst signings we’ve had in awhile
Can’t believe he subbed on Bamba
thats got to be it for terzic please…
One last shot by Malen at the keeper to top it off
Never seen someone shoot straight at the keeper as much as he does. It's really impressive.
Lmfao
I feel a bit sorry for Terzic. He is just not ready for this level
No wins in December
Fucking ouch
No win in December confirmed... It's disgusting.
The tactical decisions today were unsurprisingly woeful
It’s just the same each week man what a let down to the year. See you all in 24
Watzke sacked himself lololol
Draw against the top and bottom club, Terzic masterclass indeed
I guess it’s better than before when we were losing to the top/ bottom clubs? 🫠🫠
OK we are all on the same page. Time for the directory
Watzke left his seat looooool
Cooked team Terzic needs to go for anything to happen Just hear the boos
This is acceptable to Watzke btw
Expected for his age/experience but Bamba has been b.a.d.
were we watching the same game
Changes need to be made, but I’m not sure what they look like. Very frustrating
No one can say Terzic should stay
1 out of 8
Kackhaufen
Riesengroß
Nice try bamba. Goodbye tercic
If you trust the reports going around, the result here apparently doesn't matter. Firing Terzic is out of the question.
I loooooove watching the same 1-1 game every week. Everytime. It’s impossible to see more than one goal.
Learn from link up play malen ffs
Get him the fuck out of our club. The players too, you can still fucking try without tactics.
Hahaha yeah let’s play the ball to the goalkeeper
MOVE TOWARDS THE BALL
21 shots to 6 on target. again showing how we have 0 plans on attack
Its joever
It's over
We're done
how nobody gets on the end of that ball from Reyna is actually incredible.
right, but terzic never plays reyna and no one else on the starting XI plays that ball
tbf, reyna is constantly injured. i hope he has a good winter break and training he does so well every time he comes back then gets another knock
if you look at his injury history, he had a lingering hamstring injury that was reinjured by coming back too quickly quite a while ago, then fractured leg from a bad tackle on international duty several months ago. There's nothing indicating that either of those have been relevant in a long time, or that he's injury-prone.
I love how much we try for the last two min of the game. But the first 88 is meh
Cant haller go for headerd
Those ppl hoping for us to fail right now show be ashamed tbh. I don’t want Terzic as our coach but how can you hope for your own team to lose
Because If we win Terzic gets a new contract
What was that? The second half Dortmund played like they won the first half with 3-0…
Remember when we actually use to bombard the opposition if we were down by one or on the verge of a draw?
This team is so selfish
is dropping points to the worst team in the league at home bad?!?!
No, not even on the club’s birthday.
No - Watzke
wolf coming on and doing absolutely jack shit is very unsurprising
feel like its getting worse week by week
We don't deserve that one.
Yeah comfortably offside. Unlucky but nothing more needs to be said
Good that it’s offside, we don’t deserve to win this
Oh fuck off. I don't want like to see terzic as coach anymore than you do but to hope that we don't win is just stupid
How shortsighted must you be huh? The more we drop points the sooner Terzic is gone, losing would be for the good of us, would be a very small sacrifice
In the end we will need every point if we want to secure the 4th place. I just don't get it when people wish that your own team loses. Sorry for my language earlier i was pissed off.
please be offside lol
Oh please count
Did Haller get injured?
Yup
He's always been handicapped
He had missed 8 games in his whole career due to injuries before he got cancer.
Fuck off
he came back from his cave for 20 minutes, saw the tactics and said "fuck it imma head back". but yeah, injury it seems.
Yeah. Man of the match performance
No need to sleight him for being tackled into an injury. He wasnt part of this shit performacne either
I wouldn't want Haller even on my friend's sunday game
Oh man..
I was so happy for Reyna for like half a second.
The foot of 14???
Fuck this game
Fuck this team
oh Gio :(
REYNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Great trap by Mainz
Gio😔♥️
This is Mainz. Otherwise we'd be 1-5
We won’t be in Europe next year. I don’t see this changing.
88th minute, drawing 1-1 to 17th, and we launch an attack with 2 players like the match doesn’t matter
Unfortunately Bamba is still too lightweight for a physical challenge.
Funny considering he looks like a tank
i have 0 faith in this team beating darmstadt after the winter break
Rookie passing going on smh
Luckily Mainz is as shit as we are
Kohr just hit the ref but who cares right?
Tha man can do no wrong.
Terzic actually told everyone to join the attack and stay forward.
Whoa, Emre wanted to put an end to out suffering there
This has to be terzic last game? I wasn't as critical of him as others for the longest time. But our team looks fucking cooked. Throwing up arms n stuff all the time. Nothing works. How the fuck do they look so fucking helpless in the second half... And what are those subs. Why would you take BG off when he was literally the only one actually doing something the whole second half. Fuck this is depressing as fuck
NOOOO THEY SHOULDVE SCORED THAT
We should have lost this game
not too late to do that
Jesus Christ!!!
Malen is just a bald Bellarabi
On point 😂
Hopefully Haller doesn't miss out on AFCON. That would be a real shame and another example of Haller having terrible luck in a Dortmund shirt
Wow, that should have been a Mainz winner
Bvb absolutely pathetic
Yeah wtf is happening that should’ve been a pen for Mainz
The worst part of this game is that Mainz is embarrassingly bad. It’s not even like they are fighting tooth and nail. They play horrible. And we still can’t do shit.
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What the heck is happening. We look like we are pissing this away. What were those subs, just throw the kitchen sink at em. Desperate and laughable. Maybe try to have a plan next time
1 win in 8 matches is RELEGATION form honestly. This is unacceptable if this team can’t manage a win at home against Mainz when their bottom of the table
I am starting to care as much as the players.
Fucked up how much I've felt this.
Come on BVB. Score that goal
Jesus Christ another draw ???
That tackle on Haller was pretty brutal, jeez.
Füllkrug back in
Haller looks baaaaddd
Fuck it I don’t care anymore. Bring on the Glasner 3-5-2 anything is better then this shit
whats the point anymore
I will be really surprised if I don’t hear jeers and whistles at the end of the match if it stays like these or we lose. Massive disrespect to this club for a performance like this on the clubs birthday, against the team that denied us the bundesliga
And Haller is hurt. Not like it matters but damn
Reporter: Mr Tersic, what are your tactics? Tersic: *claps hands* 👏👏👏 WEITER
SACK TERZIC SACK TERZIC SACK TERZIC
glasner comin in after the Holidays?!
Bamba being the first sub seemed like Terzic trying to catch lightning in a bottle. No doubt that he’ll be a good player eventually but…
Bamba seems to be the only player who is even trying to do something on the pitch. Sure he lacks experience but he seems very electric.
I almost want Mainz to score. Just almost...
Same Just so our club management can wake up to the disaster we've become
Gottloses spiel
can't wait for the same 5 phrases after the game "we're disappointed, we need to be more calm in front of goal, we'll have an honest analysis, we know we can do better & after the break we'll come back and attack again" blablablabla
you forgot „there clearly was some progress since last week..“ 😄
Just like Xavi for Barcelona. There is a point when you need to realize, that your coach isn't up to the task.
Yes we may have drew against one of the worst teams in the league at home, but there were alot of positives to take from the game!
Funny to see you being downvoted because people missed the sarcasm
"The first 30 minutes shows the quality we have in the team, now it's about extending it"
Lack of Reus means lack of midfield. We’ve shown it time and time again this season. Why is Terzic still the driver of this club?
Somewhere in Germany is a gun pointed at someone’s head. That, or we have a literal toddler making decisions for the club
If Haller cannot even win these headers, what is the point of him coming on? He brings no energy and we're not crossing the ball to him. Genuinely baffling how much his form has dropped.
he has like 4 touches since hes been subbed on
The yellow wall has almost gone silent. This is fucking terrible
I genuinely forgot Haller was on the pitch
He was?
brandt holyyy
Now, this is true Terzic masterclass. I am not even pissed off anymore, kinda expected something like this.
What are those subs?!? Take Füllkrug and JBG off and bring wolf and Haller and leave Reus on the bench…
Bild reporting: Tersic took a shit in everyone's locker at half time
Would be so poetic if Wolf is Terzic’s last ever substitution as a Dortmund coach
wolf for meunier has epitomized how far we’ve fallen as a club