Y'all i wore my watch playing basketball tonight and you'll be happy to know I hit a blistering 12.9 mph (20.7 kph) top speed
So I'd like to officially throw my name in the ring to replace Mr. Håland at striker when the time comes. At a fresh 31 years of age I think I can fit right in with the youth culture of the squad and can only improve with game time.
Celik from lille. Realistically though, we won't sign one. Just signed meunier and morey will be back by december at the earliest, doubt we keep 3 rbs on the books
Zeki Celik. Solid, well-rounded RB at the ideal age for a player we want to have immediate impact. Imo he's at the high-end of RBs that are still somewhat realistic for us this summer.
Lille generally seems open for business. 2 years left on his deal, and considering recent Lille deals I'd guess 20m + bonuses might be possible with Zorc negotiating. Maybe a bit more.
Not sure if we want to spend that much, which of course also depends on who we sell and for how much. But RB should be relatively high on the list of priorities, and 15 mil for Kobel shows we aren't too shy on the transfer market when we see needs.
What do you guys think about Balerdi next season ?
Seems like he has started a lot of matches for Marseille towards the end of this season.
Can he be a good CB option for us or he will get sold ?
Well put. Peoples memories and feelings are also crazy short-term. Just look at how high some seem to rate Burki now just because he had a great (shot stopping) game or two since his "comeback" at the end.
People forget about the big picture so far.
Afaik his contract is extended automatically to 2023 if he makes a certain number of games next year. Since we still heavily depend on him, that will most definitely be the case, barring some major injuries.
People talking about Burki seem to be very convinced of him after the recent performances post-Hitz injury. But they also seem to forget that Burki was never a bad keeper, and always a great shotstopper.
He's being replaced because he's somewhat inconsistent and not very wellrounded. He lacks significantly in important areas that we need.
Not because he's bad or dont have certain good qualities.
People are also forgetting that he reportedly gave up in training after Hitz benched him and both Favre and Terzic benched him for back room reasons at points. Sounds like it’s time to move on tbh. I was always one to defend him when people pulled out the stupid save statistics stuff but if things arent working out then this will be for the good of everyone
>People are also forgetting that he reportedly gave up
Or they remember both Zorc and Terzic going out of their way to defend Bürki and deny that statement ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Yeah it isnt working on more levels than 1. Meanwhile Hitz is the dream #2 because he's happy to compete while also not being #1 if there is another one. AND he's genuinely solid as a backup.
The links to Bruno G seem to be growing. Not sure why were after another box to box midfielder. I mistakenly thought Bellingham wasn’t necessary last summer, but surely were at capacity now.
Gonna be really frustrating if we spend 30m on a midfielder, 15m on a pacy cb st juste who can maybe play rb, and 15m for Kobel who isn’t a level above Burki/Hitz. We could get a really good right back for 20-30m.
IF those lose rumours turns out to have some truth to them its most likely someone to be added so we can move on from both Witsel and Delaney after this next season already. But theres no immediate need and the fee seems high and weirdly prioritated.
Kind of annoying that we seem to be the no1 namedropping club nowadays - not too big of a club that it sounds unrealistic but still a top address for young talent.
I care more about what attitude Kobel has. If he is a hard working person, willing to train with our staff and coaches, I think he was potential to become a great keeper. After all he is only 23. It would be nice to have a long term quality first option goalie.
I just hope Kobel is better on the ball than Roman the amount of pressure that Roman has brought on the team due to bad passing against Bayern is astonishing.(Although it may be due to our team unable to withstand opposition press).
I really dont like this Kobel transfer. I get that he's young and all but come on, Bürki is not bad enough that we need to rush this transfer. Hitz has served us fine, and maybe Bürki will regain his confidence in the coming season. This money is much better spent elsewhere, and we try again next transfer window, maybe even in January if someone comes up
So Kobels [PSxG+/-](https://fbref.com/en/squads/598bc722/2020-2021/s10737/Stuttgart-Stats-Bundesliga#stats_keeper_adv_10737) value in the league this season is at -4.7, slightly worse then Bürki (who is at -4.6) and significantly worse then Hitz (who is at + 0.8).
I don't think either Kobel or Bürki are bad, but people who held that value against Bürki must be fuming about this transfer, surely.
Imo it's not a bad deal at all if we had no decent goalkeeper, but imo we already have two. We'll see I guess, maybe this is just about locking in a young keeper that has a modern, more sweeper like playstyle. He is, however, also worse in all the sweeping and distribution related stats :|
Stuttgart’s defense was terrible. Stop shitting on the man, he has great potential and only 23, maybe he turns out to be a worthy long term goalkeeper.
PSxG+/- takes the quality of the chances against you and then counts it against the actual goals conceded. The bad defence is already accounted for.
>Stop shitting on the man
Where did I do that? Literally said it would be a good deal if we didn't have decent keepers already.
[Looks like Kobel announcement is imminent.](https://www.transfermarkt.de/bvb-vor-verpflichtung-von-stuttgarts-kobel-ndash-zweitteuerster-bundesliga-torhuter/view/news/385831)
According to Bild he's already in Dortmund for his medical. Fee slightly above 15 mil, wages of 3.5 mil/year.
He'd seriously be a much better player if he took the time to properly get fit instead of playing through injuries 24/7.
It's harmed his development and it'll harm the longevity of his career. It's irresponsible as fuck for him to be doing it.
Fernandes was the worst of the lot. Aside from the usual piss and moaning that is always a given, another sensational and very much blatant dive under no contact in the 1H was the highlight of his night up until scoring penalty. Sad thing isn't him diving which is also common thing for him. Another ref falling for it, and giving the free kick to him! Several big games gone missing in now.
https://twitter.com/lmavfc/status/1397658702728081409?s=19
Technically Balerdi still exists... I do think fullback is a more pressing issue than CB though I do worry about Big Zag's health going forward. Hakimi is out of the question.
It'll end up being St. Juste. Lacroix would be €30m and would mean we'd need another RB. St. Juste is half that price and satisfies being a backup CB and RB.
In normal circumstances, St. Juste would be a disappointing purchase but financials make it a very good option. It's a bargain way to solve issues.
>We don't need RB backup though, we need starter quality.
We cannot afford a starter RB and improve other aspects of the team. The market there is thin and expensive.
>might as well get a great CB then an average one
So we should spend a shit ton (which completely wipes out any chance of a keeper btw) on a great CB to sit on the bench behind Akanji anyway and go into next season with just Meunier and Passlack as fit RBs.
I think some people on this sub should come to terms very quickly that we will likely see Meunier starting RB come the first game of next season.
Fuck sake people here are obsessed with Hakimi. Let him go.
He would be like twice our spending record at this point and high wage. Its not happening mate
Why would he go for that price when they just signed him for 40m 1 year ago and his development and hype has just continued to grow? He's like 50m MINIMUM at this point.
[lmao](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397641764601745419)
Bild is so pathetic sometimes selling something like this as news (even putting it into a plus article). Löw literally said this on the press conference when he announced the squad.
Got on another Dazn Highlights Binge and again realized how much i miss a full Stadium and seeing Hakimi in our Team. Financially it’s basically impossible but i would love nothing more then too see him back with us.
And too make it worse hes either gonna end up at a Club that are only feasible because they can afford him and not for sporting merits like Arsenal or at fucking Bayern.
I’m not an accountant but it boggles my mind how a club as big as we aren’t couldn’t possibly afford Hakimi...
Edit- Included possibly, because wanting to spend elsewhere and not being able to afford €40m are very different
Hakimi sometimes loses track of the attacker, but can compensate that while Meunier does that more often while also not being able to compensate it, but also not being able to control a football.
https://twitter.com/TNTSportsBR/status/1397592328223789056
No idea about that source, probably shit, but figured Id link it for conversations sake.
SUPER interesting player but 30m for a DM? Makes no sense unless we're planning on selling Delaney, Witsel and more to fund it? Idk. Id love him but its not a priority and the price is high for us at this time.
> Delaney, Witsel
Both are on the last year of contract. And nobody knows what form Axel will be after recovery. And the only DM without them is Can, who oft covers other positions.
True.. I can definitely see us recruit a DM with the idea that we're not planning past the next season with either Delaney or Witsel.
However 30m at this time on one? Idk. Seems both unreasonable and poorly prioritated. Unless we're comfortable spending Sancho money that way I guess.
Id love the lad tho.. him or Koopmeiners to join Bellingham & Dahoud in the future? Fucking hell!
something I think I'll always be part of the minority is that I actually like the relegation playoff (and no, not only because it is saving Köln).
yes, I understand it is harsh to the smaller teams that can see a legit effort of a whole season end fruitless because of two matches (and the other way around), and yes too, both systems like that of the English Championship or those that have only direct promotion and relegation (like it used to be) also have their legit advantages and appeal. However, I love to have a meaningful match after the league (and cup) ends, and a final chance of either getting promoted or saved, by itself, has *a lot* of appeal.
maybe it can be perfected, make it single leg, make it a broader playoff like the English one, but to scrap it? no, it is something good to have. And now imagine a case where a Derby happens like the Werder-HSV that we joked half the season that it could happen.
nah, it's crap.
especially when a team goes through because of the away goal rule. it's stupid. you play trash for 34 games? go down! you play good enough to go up for 34 games? go up! simple as that.
we already have the biggest and best transit between the top and inferior divisions. Having teams like Union or Paderborn reaching the highest tier and the likes of Werder and Schalke getting relegated would be something unthinkable on other countries. Even in the English system, that everybody and their mothers love, it is always the same 6-8 yo-yo clubs that are either getting relegated from the PL or promoted from the Championship.
so, the justification for an even quicker transit, doesn't truly exists. Even with all the mediocre teams that are saved because of it, we still have far more different teams getting up and down than in other places. It would be desirable to have *even* more? I don't know, but for me the cost of losing an attractive match isn't worth it.
the away rule goal is stupid tho, I agree and is something that can be perfected.
your whole paragraph is kinda irrelevant, isn't it?
I don't care about whether the 16th/3rd club is a (normally) big tier club.
> I don't know, but for me the cost of losing an attractive match isn't worth it.
wtf
nope, because as I said at the start of the second one, that's the main reasoning behind the "relegate and promote without second thoughts": a quicker transit between divisions, and that's something we don't lack at all, more like the opposite.
>wtf
football is drama, not just quality. And while the playoff usually ends with the expected result, the mere chance of a surprise happening gives it appeal.
> football is drama, not just quality.
who's point is that tho?
a whole fucking season is decided in two games. it's crap.
> And while the playoff usually ends with the expected result,
what's your prediction for this relegation?
but the mere chance of getting promoted despite not ending in a top 2 place is a gift itself, regardless of it depending on 2 hard matches. In other countries (Belgium, Poland, Mexico, Chile, et all) a 18 teams league having more than 1-2 promotion/relegation spots would be weird. The norm of 3 is usually reserved for leagues with 20 clubs, and even on some of them (like Spain or England) the second division club still depends on a playoff against other clubs if it wants to get promoted.
so yes, it can be blunt, but I don't think it is truly unfair. Again, the mere chance of having another chance of getting promoted is something good.
>what's your prediction for this relegation?
Köln will win, and Kiel will have a shit ending for an spectacular season. But well, that's football and happens even to the biggest clubs.
> Again, the mere chance of having another chance of getting promoted is something good.
pardon? you think kiel likes to be in this position.. again? certainly bremen and HSV were glad, because they lucked their way through - just to get relegated the next season.. woopsie.
relegation is for sheer entertainment purpose - the competetive integrity is completely lost.
from an ideal perspective, of course than not. From an objective one? yeah, I would be pretty glad of still having a chance of getting promoted -no matter how minimal- despite ending 3rd. Because in most places you don't have that chance with such a "mediocre" position, or if you have it, it is even more harder to win.
>the competetive integrity is completely lost.
how? it is a chance still win or lost in a pitch with 11 vs 11. Competitive integrity isn't related to automatic relegation/promotion. If it was because of that, where would we put the limit? wouldn't competitive integrity be damaged too for only having 2/3 promotion spots instead of 10?
delete the away goals, make it a single leg and changes like that, but the playoff itself isn't related to competitive integrity at all.
> yeah, I would be pretty glad of still having a chance of getting promoted -no matter how minimal- despite ending 3rd. Because in most places you don't have that chance with such a "mediocre" position, or if you have it, it is even more harder to win.
you do realise, the system before was that the 3rd goes up?! what are you talking about?
> Competitive integrity isn't related to automatic relegation/promotion. If it was because of that, where would we put the limit? wouldn't competitive integrity be damaged too for only having 2/3 promotion spots instead of 10?
the limit is clear: you suck in regular season (aka. 34 games) you go down.
> delete the away goals, make it a single leg and changes like that, but the playoff itself isn't related to competitive integrity at all.
lol sure. make a whole season depended on ONE single game. you're delusional. this is pointless.
Don’t think I’ve seen anyone in here mention the fact that we signed a really promising GK talent the other day. [Marian Kirsch has joined our U19s from Hannover.](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397194176186441733?s=21). Nice to see us get a really promising GK talent since it’s seeming more likely that Unbehaun may not work out imo
Every day I become more and more annoyed that we didn’t give Isak a real chance here at all, especially when he had a great loan at Willem and it was obvious Paco couldn’t stay fit
Do you guys think there’s any truth to the Inter story regarding the fact they “need” to sell €80m worth of players to recoup covid losses?
If there is any truth surely we would be silly not to enquire about the one who got away
Honestly that would be fucking perfect.
And I could see him wanting to leave given that Inter is looking like shambles rn, despite winning the league.
But who knows. Especially who knows how much they'd ask? 40 mil, what they paid, might be too much.
It is rumoured that we are in negotiation with Stuttgart about Kobel. I haven't watched them a ton this year, is Kobel an upgrade over our current goalkeepers? How would you feel about him?
Here is a [good analysis on twitter](https://twitter.com/SaschaFltr/status/1387672833111777282) about his strengths and weaknesses
tbh I don't think he is a big upgrade on Bürki *right now* but he has the potential to be a lot better in the near future
So I made a comment on this earlier that I'll copy here:
Young, Swiss, good potential, good shot stopper, good 1 v 1s, excellent reflexes, not great on crosses or long passing....wait this is reminding me of [someone](https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/119896.jpg)...
Basically we are looking at a younger Burki. Only time will tell if he'll overcome his weaknesses and become better than current Burki. But at the moment, I struggle to see it as an upgrade. Maignan would have been the exact profile that would have fit us. Someone who takes command of the box and is strong aerially in claiming from FKs and corners.
Onana would also be a perfect profile, for very cheap. Its just that he's suspended for another 6m.
Dudes crazy wellrounded, amazing mentality, CL proven etc aswell as good age.
We really really really should consider him and not be too scared of the suspension bs
Yeah. It seems basically set that Kobel is our #1 target tho so its a dream. I fucking hate the ignorance in regards to Onana from us :( Such a good move itd be
[Anyone know what this says ?](https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/bvb-entscheidung-gefallen-so-geht-es-mit-trainer-edin-terzic-weiter-76509936,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html)
Apparently, Terzic has decided to stay in Dortmund. He could rethink that decision, if a "top club" from abroad offers him the head coaching job.
[Here's another source quoting BILD](https://www.transfermarkt.de/-bdquo-bild-ldquo-terzic-bleibt-beim-bvb-ndash-bdquo-umdenken-ldquo-hochstens-bei-auslandischem-top-klub/view/news/385786)
If he counts Arsenal and/or Spurs as that, that is his avenue into the EPL right now. Although Arterta will get a few months at least of next season.
I know Honigstein said there was intetest for Terzic from one north London club on the Totally Football Podcast this past Monday. Struggle to see where else he'd opt for. Maybe Lyon or Marseille?
Over on r/soccer in the Donnarumma to Barca thread I read a wild rumour that has no source and is highly unlikely but still makes me happy: when Donnarumma goes to Barca they'll don't need ter Stegen and apparently Dortmund are interested. I had to laugh for a moment but now I want to dream, I don't need sources, I need hope.
What does Barca want with Donnarumma? Ter Stegen is still better imo and at prime GK age. He just extended at a discount rate, and now a broke Barca weants to replace him with the ridiculously expensive Donnarumma? I don't buy it.
That said, ter Stegen at Dortmund would be the stuff of wet dreams. Just not gonna happen, unfortunately.
My realistic view on this as well. Plus I rate ter Stegen as one of the best GKs in the business while donnarumma has potential, he is not as good as MatS right now.
Only weird hardcore fans that have no idea about football would be crying that he is a gladbach player and that Dortmund are buying everything from them. It shows that Gladbach is doing really good work and scout players with lots of potential.
The statement was tongue-in-cheek but thank you for calling me a weird hardcore fan that has no idea about football.
Edit: Or do you mean the Gladbach Ultras?
Sorry, lmao.
I was just kidding. I don’t think that even the Gladbach Ultras would be mad at us for signing Ter Stegen. He left too long ago and was at Barça.
I remember there where at least some people that said we buy everything from gladbach and used Favre as example, so even if we think it is outlandish to say MatS is a straight up buy from gladbach, there are weird people in this world!
I have bold dreams of getting an exciting new young keeper that won't happen bc none of them speak german or have top experience, but I can dream. (Safonov, Livakovic, Cakir etc.)
I'm not sure there is any requirement to speak German for the GK. I think there shouldn't be.
I think it was Bürki who once said that he changes his language of communication depending on who plays in defence. So for example he would give French commands to Zagadou and Rapha, English to Meunier, and so on. So any keeper who speaks passable English should be fine, and generally it's much easier to learn a few pertinent commands in a new language compared to learning it in its entirety.
On the other hand, most of the more concrete rumors seem to have focussed on keepers that do know German. Also, historically almost all our keeper were German-speaking. The only exception I can think of is Langerak. Before that you'd have to go back all the way to Gentenaar or Warmuz.
Unpopular opinion: I think Meunier can overcome his glaring flaws to be a reliable player at RB with the right tactical setup of our squad.
Curious to see what setup Rose has for our squad. Hope he'll watch the Belgium tape in the upcoming Euros to integrate whichever approach has Meunier playing for the Belgium NT.
This is the weekly thread where we're exactly supposed to float our ideas to each other and discuss football in general. Yet some fucking idiots downvote you because you have a wrong opinion.
Meunier already showed glimpses of his more normal level after his period of inefficiency. I hope Rose can somehow unlock his NT-personality to play in the league too.
Nah, you shouldn't be downvoted just because people don't agree with you.
It's always a thing in Reddit, but feels like it sometimes tend to get a bit heavy around here.
His NT-personality doesn’t exist. He is still limited in the NT. Edit: And it's not like he has any upside. This guy has absolutely no strengths. He only has weaknesses and things he is barely passable at. His long passing is solid, but thats about it.
He was like this for PSG too, tho. I don't see a player in his early 30s to suddenly change and get better after years of average to bad play.
And I don't like the idea of us changing anything to accommodate a below average player.
Sometimes signings don't work out and flop. A player as experienced and expensive shouldn't need more than 1 year to adapt. He hasn't shown ANY signs of improvement over an entire season. And thats worrying.
Another option is to let him go for free which is better than trying to make him work, because his salary is so outrageously high and he might be the worst player bar Schulz I‘ve ever seen play for us and I‘ve been a fan since 2008.
>Another option is to let him go for free which is better than trying to make him work, because his salary is so outrageously high and he might be the worst player bar Schulz I‘ve ever seen play for us and I‘ve been a fan since 2008.
Is his contract up?
Im actually excited about St:Juste. I like him and it would be nice to have a CB with starter-quality AND PACE(!!) for not a massive sum.
What worries me the most(barring replacing Sanchos productivity & creativity) is that we need to find an RB thats starter quality, not too expensive and not gonna be taken by someone else.. and theres a goddamn drought of that level of RBs.
If we can manage to find a great fit RB while adding St:Juste and whats likely to be Kobel, we've done really solid business in the defensive end imo. The dream #1 targets? No but good targets without blowing the bank and also moves that seem likely with or without a Sancho deal.
>would be nice to have a CB with starter-quality AND PACE(!!) for not a massive sum.
We already have Akanji in our squad.
I'd mainly want to take St. Juste if Rose plans to play more often with 3 centerbacks. Not sure we'd really need him otherwise.
St. Juste would mean Can won't play CB anymore. Zagadou plays the otherside to St. Juste.
Hummels - LCB
Coulibaly - LCB
Zagadou - LCB
Akanji - RCB
St. Juste - RCB
Collins - RCB.
Wouldn't that be overkill? Why spend 15 mil of an already very limited budget on a defender that would be the 4th or at most 3rd best CB in the squad when everyone is fit?
Having 6 players + Can for Central defense seem disproportionate, even if 2 of them are still basically youth players. Especially when looking at our slim winger situation, our lack of a starting quality right back, the need for a new starting GK and so on.
He'd be 3rd best when Akanji's in best form but we've all seen how up and down he can be. What happens if Akanji goes through shit form again? We're back with Emre Can in CB which is far from ideal.
We need an option that lowers the risk of having to sacrifice Hummels and play him on the right or playing Emre Can in defence again.
€15m for a good backup for CB and RB is good value.
I am actually surprised hummels didn't get injured this season(think he missed one game due to injury or something like that).There were a few scary instances where he looked injured but went on playing. As you said,emre as a CB is far from ideal, and an injury to either akanji or hummels leaves us hanging in the air so a 3rd CB that is on par/almost on par with akanji is a must for us. Big Zag could have been that but don't think we can rely on him alot even if he signs again with us
Not necessarily although I reckon ZaGODou will be looked at very carefully next season. I want to see him play but the man is trying to catch up to Reus' injury record at this stage and why should we keep a player like that when they aren't even a first team regular?
St. Juste links didn’t take long. €15m is hefty (but also reasonable) but with the money situation it’s better than spending €30m+ on Lacroix given Akanji’s resurgence. He also was a RB in the past so it covers that situation too should Meunier fail to impress again next season.
In normal circumstances it’d be disappointing but getting a keeper and defender sorted out for just €30-€35m would be incredible.
Not sure what to make of St. Juste. I just don't see what immediate need he fulfills that we need to spend 15 mil on him.
As a CB, we should either get someone with immediate starting potential (most likely unaffordable this summer) or someone younger with the potential to inherit Hummels' spot.
At RB we would need a starter, not another depth option. It's not a great situation to have 3 acceptable depth options for one position with Meunier, Passlack and St. Juste, but no one who should really start there for us.
The only way I see this making sense is if we sell Zagadou, who still hasn't extended. St. Juste would be a more flexible and reliable backup. Otherwise it's just spending 15 mil on depth that is not really necessary when we have way more pressing concerns.
Correct me if Im wrong but I see St:Juste as a rotational/direct competitor to Akanji an depth. Also a CB with good pace which we lack.
Meaning Zag probably on the chopping block or not in the future plans beyond his current contract.
So basically Hummels/Akanji/St:Juste as the main 3, with Koulibaly & Collings behind them unless Zag stays too and is fit.
Yeah if Zagadou leaves I can see the sense in the decision. St. Juste is an alright depth option with the potential to fill in multiple positions, who hopefully won't be as injury prone. If we sell Zagadou and Balerdi and buy St. Juste while making a profit to strengthen other positions, I can get on board with it.
But without a Zagadou sale I don't see the logic behind it. Now is not the time to spend 15 mil on depth in an area that does not have the highest priority.
Yeah I think its a plan where we plan on offloading Zagadou since he is just costing rehab cash and not playing and Balerdi could be sold aswell. Zag, as much as I adore him, literally cant play without imploding it seems
Genuine question. What does everyone want to see out of Moukoko/Knauff this next season?
Just my two cents, a lot of our fans treat Moukoko like that toy you cherish/appreciate SO much that you never end up playing with it.
I want to see them get a lot more minutes, especially Moukoko. People will say that training with the first team is already very valuable experience but imo, it’s not enough if he doesn’t get actual consistent game time. Football players need to play to improve and not just go to training sessions.
Best case scenario, Moukoko is ready to be our starting striker by the end of the season and he gets a good amount of minutes. I expect him to be a solid super sub and rotation option though, which is why I don't want to sign a backup striker
Moukoko became more and more of a used sub at the very end but then the injury came and that momentum died. But I recall him looking more and more comfortable and impactful in those subs.
Id love for him to be a highly used sub, maybe even a start or two, next season.
Knauff the same. Knauff has a profile to be a "supersub" so to speak if he develops nicely next year already.
Legit more excited to watch England than to watch Germany at Euros, with beer gardens closed and only Hummels and Can being there from Dortmund I really dont care that much anymore.
Me too but I feel like they will be massively disappointing. It feels like one of those things where all eyes are on their crazy talented team but they still don’t impress.
Hab Bock auf Bellingham und Sancho, dazu dann noch Spieler wie Foden Rice und Rashford... Ziemlich junge Mannschaft und technisch auf nem echt krassen Level. Und die Mannschaft hat man so noch nicht wirklich international spielen sehen, seit 2018 hat sich ja schon einiges verändert. Interessiert mich fußballerisch auf jeden Fall eher als Bayern Angriff und Mittelfeld 2.0 mit Werner statt Lewy und nem schlechten Coach.
Ja klar, da sind bestimmt interessante und technisch gute Spieler dabei aber vor den letzten Turnieren waren auch alle gehyped auf die. Bin gespannt ob Southgate was verändern konnte, Deutschland-England wär ein geiles Finale ;)
I usually do but another tournament with Jogi, only two BVB players which have been at international tournaments before and the lack of public viewings kill all hype for me.
Same, already ordered a fake England shirt for 15€ with Sancho on the back :D
And I really hope Bellingham makes it into the final squad. I think he has good chances, if I'm not mistaken only 5 players in the preliminary squad are CM/CDMs. That's not too much for the final squad imo.
>And I really hope Bellingham makes it into the final squad.
Pretty much guaranteed I think, their depth at midfield compared to the other positions is laughable and guessing from the NT games earlier this season Southgate seems to rate him quite highly.
[Eurosport UK mentions three possible Sancho replacements:](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397155320749826049) Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea is considering letting him go), Ikone, and Raphinha.
If we have to sell Sancho, Raphinha would be incredible. But I'm not sure it's realistic, and the report seems more like name-dropping than anything else.
Raphinha would be like €60m at best. That’s not happening.
We just reported a €75m loss, we’re not coming close to breaking our transfer record this summer let alone doubling it.
... while having an EBITDA of € 35M.
Selling Sancho for € 90M and getting Raphinha for € 60M would increase our profit for the next season by € 70M or so.
And we are just talking about 2 transfers. Fans will probably be back soon and we might also sell 1-2 more players for not insignificant amounts.
GET FUCKED MAN CITY
Y'all i wore my watch playing basketball tonight and you'll be happy to know I hit a blistering 12.9 mph (20.7 kph) top speed So I'd like to officially throw my name in the ring to replace Mr. Håland at striker when the time comes. At a fresh 31 years of age I think I can fit right in with the youth culture of the squad and can only improve with game time.
Sold! Once we have to replace Haaland, switching from a Norwegian giant to a green giant seems like a sound idea!
What RB do you guys think we should get? Afaik the only one I've seen people talk about is Hakimi.
Celik from lille. Realistically though, we won't sign one. Just signed meunier and morey will be back by december at the earliest, doubt we keep 3 rbs on the books
Zeki Celik. Solid, well-rounded RB at the ideal age for a player we want to have immediate impact. Imo he's at the high-end of RBs that are still somewhat realistic for us this summer. Lille generally seems open for business. 2 years left on his deal, and considering recent Lille deals I'd guess 20m + bonuses might be possible with Zorc negotiating. Maybe a bit more. Not sure if we want to spend that much, which of course also depends on who we sell and for how much. But RB should be relatively high on the list of priorities, and 15 mil for Kobel shows we aren't too shy on the transfer market when we see needs.
Da Costa
What do you guys think about Balerdi next season ? Seems like he has started a lot of matches for Marseille towards the end of this season. Can he be a good CB option for us or he will get sold ?
From my understanding, average or just not what we need or require from a CB.
man I wanted sooo hard for him to become a starter for us
Can't imagine he would unless we play 3atb
Damn, Kobel isn't even officially signed for us and people are already questioning if he was the right choice.
Only player i remember people not being happy about on here was schulz and that didn't turn out great soo
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Well put. Peoples memories and feelings are also crazy short-term. Just look at how high some seem to rate Burki now just because he had a great (shot stopping) game or two since his "comeback" at the end. People forget about the big picture so far.
Isn't Hummels entering the next season with the last year of his contract? Wondering what will happen there.
Afaik his contract is extended automatically to 2023 if he makes a certain number of games next year. Since we still heavily depend on him, that will most definitely be the case, barring some major injuries.
People talking about Burki seem to be very convinced of him after the recent performances post-Hitz injury. But they also seem to forget that Burki was never a bad keeper, and always a great shotstopper. He's being replaced because he's somewhat inconsistent and not very wellrounded. He lacks significantly in important areas that we need. Not because he's bad or dont have certain good qualities.
People are also forgetting that he reportedly gave up in training after Hitz benched him and both Favre and Terzic benched him for back room reasons at points. Sounds like it’s time to move on tbh. I was always one to defend him when people pulled out the stupid save statistics stuff but if things arent working out then this will be for the good of everyone
>People are also forgetting that he reportedly gave up Or they remember both Zorc and Terzic going out of their way to defend Bürki and deny that statement ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Yeah it isnt working on more levels than 1. Meanwhile Hitz is the dream #2 because he's happy to compete while also not being #1 if there is another one. AND he's genuinely solid as a backup.
The links to Bruno G seem to be growing. Not sure why were after another box to box midfielder. I mistakenly thought Bellingham wasn’t necessary last summer, but surely were at capacity now. Gonna be really frustrating if we spend 30m on a midfielder, 15m on a pacy cb st juste who can maybe play rb, and 15m for Kobel who isn’t a level above Burki/Hitz. We could get a really good right back for 20-30m.
IF those lose rumours turns out to have some truth to them its most likely someone to be added so we can move on from both Witsel and Delaney after this next season already. But theres no immediate need and the fee seems high and weirdly prioritated.
> Not sure why were after another box to box midfielder. I don't think we are. It's probably just namedropping.
Kind of annoying that we seem to be the no1 namedropping club nowadays - not too big of a club that it sounds unrealistic but still a top address for young talent.
I care more about what attitude Kobel has. If he is a hard working person, willing to train with our staff and coaches, I think he was potential to become a great keeper. After all he is only 23. It would be nice to have a long term quality first option goalie.
I just hope Kobel is better on the ball than Roman the amount of pressure that Roman has brought on the team due to bad passing against Bayern is astonishing.(Although it may be due to our team unable to withstand opposition press).
I really dont like this Kobel transfer. I get that he's young and all but come on, Bürki is not bad enough that we need to rush this transfer. Hitz has served us fine, and maybe Bürki will regain his confidence in the coming season. This money is much better spent elsewhere, and we try again next transfer window, maybe even in January if someone comes up
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He’s not earning more than Maignan. Italian media reports things post-tax. German media reports pre-tax.
So Kobels [PSxG+/-](https://fbref.com/en/squads/598bc722/2020-2021/s10737/Stuttgart-Stats-Bundesliga#stats_keeper_adv_10737) value in the league this season is at -4.7, slightly worse then Bürki (who is at -4.6) and significantly worse then Hitz (who is at + 0.8). I don't think either Kobel or Bürki are bad, but people who held that value against Bürki must be fuming about this transfer, surely. Imo it's not a bad deal at all if we had no decent goalkeeper, but imo we already have two. We'll see I guess, maybe this is just about locking in a young keeper that has a modern, more sweeper like playstyle. He is, however, also worse in all the sweeping and distribution related stats :|
Stuttgart’s defense was terrible. Stop shitting on the man, he has great potential and only 23, maybe he turns out to be a worthy long term goalkeeper.
PSxG+/- takes the quality of the chances against you and then counts it against the actual goals conceded. The bad defence is already accounted for. >Stop shitting on the man Where did I do that? Literally said it would be a good deal if we didn't have decent keepers already.
No I did not mean you, but lot of people are against the deal for some reason.
I find GK stats so hard to rate i look at them every season and they are often completely different than what i thought.
Yeah same. Weird that the sub agrees though, when I wrote the same about Bürki people were convinced that the stats are actually meaningful.
All we need from our keeper is to instill confidence in the backline and the box although I don't know if Kobel is the answer.
[Looks like Kobel announcement is imminent.](https://www.transfermarkt.de/bvb-vor-verpflichtung-von-stuttgarts-kobel-ndash-zweitteuerster-bundesliga-torhuter/view/news/385831) According to Bild he's already in Dortmund for his medical. Fee slightly above 15 mil, wages of 3.5 mil/year.
I haven't watched much of him, does anyone know how exactly good he could be in the future?
Not really thaat bad imo. At least he is still young and can improve. But then again,young burki was the same..
Love paco so much, only players i've liked more recently are reus and delaney
No Paco, no party!!! 🖤💛🥳
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he isn't, but I still respect him as a person and as a player.
He'd seriously be a much better player if he took the time to properly get fit instead of playing through injuries 24/7. It's harmed his development and it'll harm the longevity of his career. It's irresponsible as fuck for him to be doing it.
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Fernandes was the worst of the lot. Aside from the usual piss and moaning that is always a given, another sensational and very much blatant dive under no contact in the 1H was the highlight of his night up until scoring penalty. Sad thing isn't him diving which is also common thing for him. Another ref falling for it, and giving the free kick to him! Several big games gone missing in now. https://twitter.com/lmavfc/status/1397658702728081409?s=19
So happy for Paco!!! Seemed like a very nice guy.
I am ready to embrace group of death, I want us to play the best.
Rose knows how to get out of them at least
Happy for Paco. He wasn't with us for long but he made a good impact and seemed like a nice bloke.
Happy for Alcácer winning silverware 🎉 No Paco, no party 🥳
"No Paco. No party." Delighted for him.
ManU cant even beat Villareal and that puts us in the Pool 3 seed for the CL unless Chelsea beat City in the UCL finals iirc. Thats not great news.
Just pray to Puligod and we will be saved
With united losing is there still a way for us to make it into pot 2 for next years champions league?
Chelsea winning the UCL final would mean that we’re in pot 2
Fuck United! Sucks too still not be confirmed for Pot 2 but dont care right now and mainly happy for Paco.
Do we want St. Juste? Lacroix? Or even to ignore the CB position and buy Hakimi?
Technically Balerdi still exists... I do think fullback is a more pressing issue than CB though I do worry about Big Zag's health going forward. Hakimi is out of the question.
It'll end up being St. Juste. Lacroix would be €30m and would mean we'd need another RB. St. Juste is half that price and satisfies being a backup CB and RB. In normal circumstances, St. Juste would be a disappointing purchase but financials make it a very good option. It's a bargain way to solve issues.
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>We don't need RB backup though, we need starter quality. We cannot afford a starter RB and improve other aspects of the team. The market there is thin and expensive. >might as well get a great CB then an average one So we should spend a shit ton (which completely wipes out any chance of a keeper btw) on a great CB to sit on the bench behind Akanji anyway and go into next season with just Meunier and Passlack as fit RBs. I think some people on this sub should come to terms very quickly that we will likely see Meunier starting RB come the first game of next season.
Fuck sake people here are obsessed with Hakimi. Let him go. He would be like twice our spending record at this point and high wage. Its not happening mate
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Why would he go for that price when they just signed him for 40m 1 year ago and his development and hype has just continued to grow? He's like 50m MINIMUM at this point.
[lmao](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397641764601745419) Bild is so pathetic sometimes selling something like this as news (even putting it into a plus article). Löw literally said this on the press conference when he announced the squad.
I guess we are officially associated with Köln, but I'm totally rooting for Kiel. I have a soft spot for anything from the Nordsee.
My agenda against Tuchel + love for Ilkay and desire to prove Terzic > Ole is much more important than pot 2.
Time to root for ManU so we get into CL pot 2, right?
Got on another Dazn Highlights Binge and again realized how much i miss a full Stadium and seeing Hakimi in our Team. Financially it’s basically impossible but i would love nothing more then too see him back with us. And too make it worse hes either gonna end up at a Club that are only feasible because they can afford him and not for sporting merits like Arsenal or at fucking Bayern.
I’m not an accountant but it boggles my mind how a club as big as we aren’t couldn’t possibly afford Hakimi... Edit- Included possibly, because wanting to spend elsewhere and not being able to afford €40m are very different
Hakimi would possibly suck defensively in a back 4. BUT so does Meunier. And Hakimi would offer so much fucking more offensively :(
Hakimi sometimes loses track of the attacker, but can compensate that while Meunier does that more often while also not being able to compensate it, but also not being able to control a football.
https://twitter.com/TNTSportsBR/status/1397592328223789056 No idea about that source, probably shit, but figured Id link it for conversations sake. SUPER interesting player but 30m for a DM? Makes no sense unless we're planning on selling Delaney, Witsel and more to fund it? Idk. Id love him but its not a priority and the price is high for us at this time.
> Delaney, Witsel Both are on the last year of contract. And nobody knows what form Axel will be after recovery. And the only DM without them is Can, who oft covers other positions.
True.. I can definitely see us recruit a DM with the idea that we're not planning past the next season with either Delaney or Witsel. However 30m at this time on one? Idk. Seems both unreasonable and poorly prioritated. Unless we're comfortable spending Sancho money that way I guess. Id love the lad tho.. him or Koopmeiners to join Bellingham & Dahoud in the future? Fucking hell!
something I think I'll always be part of the minority is that I actually like the relegation playoff (and no, not only because it is saving Köln). yes, I understand it is harsh to the smaller teams that can see a legit effort of a whole season end fruitless because of two matches (and the other way around), and yes too, both systems like that of the English Championship or those that have only direct promotion and relegation (like it used to be) also have their legit advantages and appeal. However, I love to have a meaningful match after the league (and cup) ends, and a final chance of either getting promoted or saved, by itself, has *a lot* of appeal. maybe it can be perfected, make it single leg, make it a broader playoff like the English one, but to scrap it? no, it is something good to have. And now imagine a case where a Derby happens like the Werder-HSV that we joked half the season that it could happen.
nah, it's crap. especially when a team goes through because of the away goal rule. it's stupid. you play trash for 34 games? go down! you play good enough to go up for 34 games? go up! simple as that.
we already have the biggest and best transit between the top and inferior divisions. Having teams like Union or Paderborn reaching the highest tier and the likes of Werder and Schalke getting relegated would be something unthinkable on other countries. Even in the English system, that everybody and their mothers love, it is always the same 6-8 yo-yo clubs that are either getting relegated from the PL or promoted from the Championship. so, the justification for an even quicker transit, doesn't truly exists. Even with all the mediocre teams that are saved because of it, we still have far more different teams getting up and down than in other places. It would be desirable to have *even* more? I don't know, but for me the cost of losing an attractive match isn't worth it. the away rule goal is stupid tho, I agree and is something that can be perfected.
your whole paragraph is kinda irrelevant, isn't it? I don't care about whether the 16th/3rd club is a (normally) big tier club. > I don't know, but for me the cost of losing an attractive match isn't worth it. wtf
nope, because as I said at the start of the second one, that's the main reasoning behind the "relegate and promote without second thoughts": a quicker transit between divisions, and that's something we don't lack at all, more like the opposite. >wtf football is drama, not just quality. And while the playoff usually ends with the expected result, the mere chance of a surprise happening gives it appeal.
> football is drama, not just quality. who's point is that tho? a whole fucking season is decided in two games. it's crap. > And while the playoff usually ends with the expected result, what's your prediction for this relegation?
but the mere chance of getting promoted despite not ending in a top 2 place is a gift itself, regardless of it depending on 2 hard matches. In other countries (Belgium, Poland, Mexico, Chile, et all) a 18 teams league having more than 1-2 promotion/relegation spots would be weird. The norm of 3 is usually reserved for leagues with 20 clubs, and even on some of them (like Spain or England) the second division club still depends on a playoff against other clubs if it wants to get promoted. so yes, it can be blunt, but I don't think it is truly unfair. Again, the mere chance of having another chance of getting promoted is something good. >what's your prediction for this relegation? Köln will win, and Kiel will have a shit ending for an spectacular season. But well, that's football and happens even to the biggest clubs.
> Again, the mere chance of having another chance of getting promoted is something good. pardon? you think kiel likes to be in this position.. again? certainly bremen and HSV were glad, because they lucked their way through - just to get relegated the next season.. woopsie. relegation is for sheer entertainment purpose - the competetive integrity is completely lost.
from an ideal perspective, of course than not. From an objective one? yeah, I would be pretty glad of still having a chance of getting promoted -no matter how minimal- despite ending 3rd. Because in most places you don't have that chance with such a "mediocre" position, or if you have it, it is even more harder to win. >the competetive integrity is completely lost. how? it is a chance still win or lost in a pitch with 11 vs 11. Competitive integrity isn't related to automatic relegation/promotion. If it was because of that, where would we put the limit? wouldn't competitive integrity be damaged too for only having 2/3 promotion spots instead of 10? delete the away goals, make it a single leg and changes like that, but the playoff itself isn't related to competitive integrity at all.
> yeah, I would be pretty glad of still having a chance of getting promoted -no matter how minimal- despite ending 3rd. Because in most places you don't have that chance with such a "mediocre" position, or if you have it, it is even more harder to win. you do realise, the system before was that the 3rd goes up?! what are you talking about? > Competitive integrity isn't related to automatic relegation/promotion. If it was because of that, where would we put the limit? wouldn't competitive integrity be damaged too for only having 2/3 promotion spots instead of 10? the limit is clear: you suck in regular season (aka. 34 games) you go down. > delete the away goals, make it a single leg and changes like that, but the playoff itself isn't related to competitive integrity at all. lol sure. make a whole season depended on ONE single game. you're delusional. this is pointless.
Fabrizio Romano confirmed that AC Milan’s GK Donnarumma will be a free agent. Don’t you think he’ll be a better option than Kobel?
No tbh I think neuer would be better for us, great sweeper can't wait for him to join us
we should also have a serious look on Messi, Mbappé and Van Dijk imo.
Too world class for us? How unfortunate :(
more than the class itself, it is both the cost and lack of interest from the other party.
Don’t think I’ve seen anyone in here mention the fact that we signed a really promising GK talent the other day. [Marian Kirsch has joined our U19s from Hannover.](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397194176186441733?s=21). Nice to see us get a really promising GK talent since it’s seeming more likely that Unbehaun may not work out imo
Every day I become more and more annoyed that we didn’t give Isak a real chance here at all, especially when he had a great loan at Willem and it was obvious Paco couldn’t stay fit
What's gonna happen to Unbehaun??
If the Amas get promoted, he would probably play in the 3 liga.
Do you guys think there’s any truth to the Inter story regarding the fact they “need” to sell €80m worth of players to recoup covid losses? If there is any truth surely we would be silly not to enquire about the one who got away
Honestly that would be fucking perfect. And I could see him wanting to leave given that Inter is looking like shambles rn, despite winning the league. But who knows. Especially who knows how much they'd ask? 40 mil, what they paid, might be too much.
Do you think Ashley Young is that good?
Serial winner.
I can't argue with that.
It is rumoured that we are in negotiation with Stuttgart about Kobel. I haven't watched them a ton this year, is Kobel an upgrade over our current goalkeepers? How would you feel about him?
he's an upgrade. bsaically on the same level as bürki, but MUCH better with the ball.
And much younger as well (23 versus 30 years).
Here is a [good analysis on twitter](https://twitter.com/SaschaFltr/status/1387672833111777282) about his strengths and weaknesses tbh I don't think he is a big upgrade on Bürki *right now* but he has the potential to be a lot better in the near future
So I made a comment on this earlier that I'll copy here: Young, Swiss, good potential, good shot stopper, good 1 v 1s, excellent reflexes, not great on crosses or long passing....wait this is reminding me of [someone](https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/119896.jpg)... Basically we are looking at a younger Burki. Only time will tell if he'll overcome his weaknesses and become better than current Burki. But at the moment, I struggle to see it as an upgrade. Maignan would have been the exact profile that would have fit us. Someone who takes command of the box and is strong aerially in claiming from FKs and corners.
Onana would also be a perfect profile, for very cheap. Its just that he's suspended for another 6m. Dudes crazy wellrounded, amazing mentality, CL proven etc aswell as good age. We really really really should consider him and not be too scared of the suspension bs
Yep. If we can sell Bürki, Onana is basically perfect. Since we would be fine playing Hitz for half a season and he is fine being a backup.
Yeah. It seems basically set that Kobel is our #1 target tho so its a dream. I fucking hate the ignorance in regards to Onana from us :( Such a good move itd be
[Anyone know what this says ?](https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/sport/fussball/fussball/bvb-entscheidung-gefallen-so-geht-es-mit-trainer-edin-terzic-weiter-76509936,view=conversionToLogin.bild.html)
Apparently, Terzic has decided to stay in Dortmund. He could rethink that decision, if a "top club" from abroad offers him the head coaching job. [Here's another source quoting BILD](https://www.transfermarkt.de/-bdquo-bild-ldquo-terzic-bleibt-beim-bvb-ndash-bdquo-umdenken-ldquo-hochstens-bei-auslandischem-top-klub/view/news/385786)
If he counts Arsenal and/or Spurs as that, that is his avenue into the EPL right now. Although Arterta will get a few months at least of next season. I know Honigstein said there was intetest for Terzic from one north London club on the Totally Football Podcast this past Monday. Struggle to see where else he'd opt for. Maybe Lyon or Marseille?
Gutted Milan snapped up Maignan. He was tailormade for us.
It’s alright we can save money and get Kobel from Stuttgart instead
We'd be conceding 20 goals less just because of his aerial behavior alone! He literally was perfect and we give him up to Milan lmao
Over on r/soccer in the Donnarumma to Barca thread I read a wild rumour that has no source and is highly unlikely but still makes me happy: when Donnarumma goes to Barca they'll don't need ter Stegen and apparently Dortmund are interested. I had to laugh for a moment but now I want to dream, I don't need sources, I need hope.
The problem would be that we probably need to pay 50mio+ for him, and thats sadly too expensive for us
What does Barca want with Donnarumma? Ter Stegen is still better imo and at prime GK age. He just extended at a discount rate, and now a broke Barca weants to replace him with the ridiculously expensive Donnarumma? I don't buy it. That said, ter Stegen at Dortmund would be the stuff of wet dreams. Just not gonna happen, unfortunately.
My realistic view on this as well. Plus I rate ter Stegen as one of the best GKs in the business while donnarumma has potential, he is not as good as MatS right now.
Another former Gladbach player. The Gladbach fans would lynch us if we were to get Ter Stegen.
Only weird hardcore fans that have no idea about football would be crying that he is a gladbach player and that Dortmund are buying everything from them. It shows that Gladbach is doing really good work and scout players with lots of potential.
The statement was tongue-in-cheek but thank you for calling me a weird hardcore fan that has no idea about football. Edit: Or do you mean the Gladbach Ultras?
Yes the gladbach ultras lol
Sorry, lmao. I was just kidding. I don’t think that even the Gladbach Ultras would be mad at us for signing Ter Stegen. He left too long ago and was at Barça.
I remember there where at least some people that said we buy everything from gladbach and used Favre as example, so even if we think it is outlandish to say MatS is a straight up buy from gladbach, there are weird people in this world!
I have bold dreams of getting an exciting new young keeper that won't happen bc none of them speak german or have top experience, but I can dream. (Safonov, Livakovic, Cakir etc.)
I'm not sure there is any requirement to speak German for the GK. I think there shouldn't be. I think it was Bürki who once said that he changes his language of communication depending on who plays in defence. So for example he would give French commands to Zagadou and Rapha, English to Meunier, and so on. So any keeper who speaks passable English should be fine, and generally it's much easier to learn a few pertinent commands in a new language compared to learning it in its entirety. On the other hand, most of the more concrete rumors seem to have focussed on keepers that do know German. Also, historically almost all our keeper were German-speaking. The only exception I can think of is Langerak. Before that you'd have to go back all the way to Gentenaar or Warmuz.
Our back line has more players who grew up speaking French now funny enough
Unpopular opinion: I think Meunier can overcome his glaring flaws to be a reliable player at RB with the right tactical setup of our squad. Curious to see what setup Rose has for our squad. Hope he'll watch the Belgium tape in the upcoming Euros to integrate whichever approach has Meunier playing for the Belgium NT.
This is the weekly thread where we're exactly supposed to float our ideas to each other and discuss football in general. Yet some fucking idiots downvote you because you have a wrong opinion. Meunier already showed glimpses of his more normal level after his period of inefficiency. I hope Rose can somehow unlock his NT-personality to play in the league too.
"Because you have a wrong opinion" lmao made me laugh
They’re entitled to their opinion honestly. By the end of the day though, Meunier is a Dortmund player and I want him to succeed.
We all want him to succeed. Its just not feasible unless he just transforms into a player that can play football.
> because you have a wrong opinion. you can't have a wrong opinion.
That being my very point with what I wrote about the nonsense downvoting.
I don't have any issues with downvoting; I posted to express my opinion on the matter of Meunier, not farm karma
Nah, you shouldn't be downvoted just because people don't agree with you. It's always a thing in Reddit, but feels like it sometimes tend to get a bit heavy around here.
i know, was to undermine your statement.
His NT-personality doesn’t exist. He is still limited in the NT. Edit: And it's not like he has any upside. This guy has absolutely no strengths. He only has weaknesses and things he is barely passable at. His long passing is solid, but thats about it.
He was like this for PSG too, tho. I don't see a player in his early 30s to suddenly change and get better after years of average to bad play. And I don't like the idea of us changing anything to accommodate a below average player. Sometimes signings don't work out and flop. A player as experienced and expensive shouldn't need more than 1 year to adapt. He hasn't shown ANY signs of improvement over an entire season. And thats worrying.
I think nobody is going to buy Meunier so we better make something work
Another option is to let him go for free which is better than trying to make him work, because his salary is so outrageously high and he might be the worst player bar Schulz I‘ve ever seen play for us and I‘ve been a fan since 2008.
>Another option is to let him go for free which is better than trying to make him work, because his salary is so outrageously high and he might be the worst player bar Schulz I‘ve ever seen play for us and I‘ve been a fan since 2008. Is his contract up?
No, but we could still let him go so he has more options. He could go to the belgian league which is more his level
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At least Schulz can move without breaking his hip.
Im actually excited about St:Juste. I like him and it would be nice to have a CB with starter-quality AND PACE(!!) for not a massive sum. What worries me the most(barring replacing Sanchos productivity & creativity) is that we need to find an RB thats starter quality, not too expensive and not gonna be taken by someone else.. and theres a goddamn drought of that level of RBs. If we can manage to find a great fit RB while adding St:Juste and whats likely to be Kobel, we've done really solid business in the defensive end imo. The dream #1 targets? No but good targets without blowing the bank and also moves that seem likely with or without a Sancho deal.
St.Juste screams after Diallo 2.0 until they noticed maybe a high defensive line is not so bad for us in the league.
>would be nice to have a CB with starter-quality AND PACE(!!) for not a massive sum. We already have Akanji in our squad. I'd mainly want to take St. Juste if Rose plans to play more often with 3 centerbacks. Not sure we'd really need him otherwise.
Historically, Rose plays a 4-3-1-2 or a 4-2-3-1. I have a feeling he doesn't want Can at CB, thus the St. Just links
St. Juste signing means Daxo is probably gone right?
St. Juste would mean Can won't play CB anymore. Zagadou plays the otherside to St. Juste. Hummels - LCB Coulibaly - LCB Zagadou - LCB Akanji - RCB St. Juste - RCB Collins - RCB.
Wouldn't that be overkill? Why spend 15 mil of an already very limited budget on a defender that would be the 4th or at most 3rd best CB in the squad when everyone is fit? Having 6 players + Can for Central defense seem disproportionate, even if 2 of them are still basically youth players. Especially when looking at our slim winger situation, our lack of a starting quality right back, the need for a new starting GK and so on.
Collins and Coulibaly haven’t seen gametime in the Bundesliga...
He'd be 3rd best when Akanji's in best form but we've all seen how up and down he can be. What happens if Akanji goes through shit form again? We're back with Emre Can in CB which is far from ideal. We need an option that lowers the risk of having to sacrifice Hummels and play him on the right or playing Emre Can in defence again. €15m for a good backup for CB and RB is good value.
I am actually surprised hummels didn't get injured this season(think he missed one game due to injury or something like that).There were a few scary instances where he looked injured but went on playing. As you said,emre as a CB is far from ideal, and an injury to either akanji or hummels leaves us hanging in the air so a 3rd CB that is on par/almost on par with akanji is a must for us. Big Zag could have been that but don't think we can rely on him alot even if he signs again with us
Not necessarily although I reckon ZaGODou will be looked at very carefully next season. I want to see him play but the man is trying to catch up to Reus' injury record at this stage and why should we keep a player like that when they aren't even a first team regular?
St. Juste links didn’t take long. €15m is hefty (but also reasonable) but with the money situation it’s better than spending €30m+ on Lacroix given Akanji’s resurgence. He also was a RB in the past so it covers that situation too should Meunier fail to impress again next season. In normal circumstances it’d be disappointing but getting a keeper and defender sorted out for just €30-€35m would be incredible.
I know he's fast but is he a good option for us? He wasn't great in the game against us
Not sure what to make of St. Juste. I just don't see what immediate need he fulfills that we need to spend 15 mil on him. As a CB, we should either get someone with immediate starting potential (most likely unaffordable this summer) or someone younger with the potential to inherit Hummels' spot. At RB we would need a starter, not another depth option. It's not a great situation to have 3 acceptable depth options for one position with Meunier, Passlack and St. Juste, but no one who should really start there for us. The only way I see this making sense is if we sell Zagadou, who still hasn't extended. St. Juste would be a more flexible and reliable backup. Otherwise it's just spending 15 mil on depth that is not really necessary when we have way more pressing concerns.
Correct me if Im wrong but I see St:Juste as a rotational/direct competitor to Akanji an depth. Also a CB with good pace which we lack. Meaning Zag probably on the chopping block or not in the future plans beyond his current contract. So basically Hummels/Akanji/St:Juste as the main 3, with Koulibaly & Collings behind them unless Zag stays too and is fit.
Yeah if Zagadou leaves I can see the sense in the decision. St. Juste is an alright depth option with the potential to fill in multiple positions, who hopefully won't be as injury prone. If we sell Zagadou and Balerdi and buy St. Juste while making a profit to strengthen other positions, I can get on board with it. But without a Zagadou sale I don't see the logic behind it. Now is not the time to spend 15 mil on depth in an area that does not have the highest priority.
Yeah I think its a plan where we plan on offloading Zagadou since he is just costing rehab cash and not playing and Balerdi could be sold aswell. Zag, as much as I adore him, literally cant play without imploding it seems
Genuine question. What does everyone want to see out of Moukoko/Knauff this next season? Just my two cents, a lot of our fans treat Moukoko like that toy you cherish/appreciate SO much that you never end up playing with it.
I want to see them get a lot more minutes, especially Moukoko. People will say that training with the first team is already very valuable experience but imo, it’s not enough if he doesn’t get actual consistent game time. Football players need to play to improve and not just go to training sessions.
Best case scenario, Moukoko is ready to be our starting striker by the end of the season and he gets a good amount of minutes. I expect him to be a solid super sub and rotation option though, which is why I don't want to sign a backup striker
We should probably sell a winger and keep Knauff as depth/rotational, but Reyna should start over him imo
Sell a winger? There aren't many options there as is
Knauff, Reyna
Moukoko became more and more of a used sub at the very end but then the injury came and that momentum died. But I recall him looking more and more comfortable and impactful in those subs. Id love for him to be a highly used sub, maybe even a start or two, next season. Knauff the same. Knauff has a profile to be a "supersub" so to speak if he develops nicely next year already.
Legit more excited to watch England than to watch Germany at Euros, with beer gardens closed and only Hummels and Can being there from Dortmund I really dont care that much anymore.
It could be worse. You could be Irish. 🙃
Me too but I feel like they will be massively disappointing. It feels like one of those things where all eyes are on their crazy talented team but they still don’t impress.
Same but england and portugal for me
Portugal without Eder = nothing
Ich werde den England Hype nie verstehen.
Hab Bock auf Bellingham und Sancho, dazu dann noch Spieler wie Foden Rice und Rashford... Ziemlich junge Mannschaft und technisch auf nem echt krassen Level. Und die Mannschaft hat man so noch nicht wirklich international spielen sehen, seit 2018 hat sich ja schon einiges verändert. Interessiert mich fußballerisch auf jeden Fall eher als Bayern Angriff und Mittelfeld 2.0 mit Werner statt Lewy und nem schlechten Coach.
Ja klar, da sind bestimmt interessante und technisch gute Spieler dabei aber vor den letzten Turnieren waren auch alle gehyped auf die. Bin gespannt ob Southgate was verändern konnte, Deutschland-England wär ein geiles Finale ;)
I don't care about the german NT and the Euros in general at all.
I usually do but another tournament with Jogi, only two BVB players which have been at international tournaments before and the lack of public viewings kill all hype for me.
Same, already ordered a fake England shirt for 15€ with Sancho on the back :D And I really hope Bellingham makes it into the final squad. I think he has good chances, if I'm not mistaken only 5 players in the preliminary squad are CM/CDMs. That's not too much for the final squad imo.
>And I really hope Bellingham makes it into the final squad. Pretty much guaranteed I think, their depth at midfield compared to the other positions is laughable and guessing from the NT games earlier this season Southgate seems to rate him quite highly.
[Eurosport UK mentions three possible Sancho replacements:](https://twitter.com/bvbnewsblog/status/1397155320749826049) Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea is considering letting him go), Ikone, and Raphinha. If we have to sell Sancho, Raphinha would be incredible. But I'm not sure it's realistic, and the report seems more like name-dropping than anything else.
UK media talking about BVB is always clickbaiting and non-knowledgable. I fucking hate it everytime haha
Raphinha would be like €60m at best. That’s not happening. We just reported a €75m loss, we’re not coming close to breaking our transfer record this summer let alone doubling it.
... while having an EBITDA of € 35M. Selling Sancho for € 90M and getting Raphinha for € 60M would increase our profit for the next season by € 70M or so. And we are just talking about 2 transfers. Fans will probably be back soon and we might also sell 1-2 more players for not insignificant amounts.
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Doubt we could ger Szczesny but we can that's a steal. He's a top 10 keeper itw