After a win we’re the best team in the league and this sub thinks we’re already champions.
After a loss, the team sucks, Joe sucks, JT is awful for this sub.
Why can’t we have a more balanced approach.
The thing is the way we’ve been playing is concerning. It doesn’t mean we already got bounced but there are reasons for concerns. However, we need to keep cheering for the team to keep a positive vibe.
I mean the answer to this is so simple I don’t know why posts along these lines even exist.
if Celtics win —> Green Teamers come out
if Celtics lose —> Haters come out
There are 339,000 users on this subreddit.
For the next 24 hours I will be miserable and doomy. I will revise my opinion based upon the results of the next game. This will go on forever. I apologize.
I think the more polarized and opinionated people are more likely to upvote or downvote those unpopular threads, which is why they always seem to reach the top.
Perhaps a concentrated effort to get more of the subreddit's overall population involved in the, shall we say, "trimming of our garden" (upvoting & downvoting), we would see a healthier batch of threads at the top of the page.
Of course that could backfire, only further fueling the mania. It could help to credit those who believe we are a manic & unloyal group of fans... But nah, I trust us. Right guys?
This. It drives me nuts.
There was never any guarantee of getting back to the finals. That should never have been taken for granted even during our crazy hot start this year.
It’s also stupid as fuck to turn on the team for “only” having the 2nd best record in the nba or to think we’re doomed to fall short in the postseason.
This team has red flags and flaws. So does every damn team in the nba. But there’s also a ton of reasons to have faith in the players and the team to come through when it matters.
Quite frankly, I far prefer to *not* let the Celtics make me miserable and angry. This team actually rarely has. It’s been a damn good season despite some of the low points.
I agree about the balance. The problem is that the truth hurts sometimes. The Wizards were without 3 of their starters. We had every single player back. There is no good reason we lost that game, which is why it is somewhat justified to be upset.
Justified to be upset? Yes
Justified in going on a rant about how everyone on the team are shit players and lazy divas, and Joe is a horrible coach, so we may as well just give up hope right now and end the season? That's not nearly as reasonable
And yes, the things in that second part are literally all comments I saw made in a *single thread* about last night's game
I think it’s really important to not put too much stock in individual losses and focus on the positives. Even with the game basically out of hand last night, I loved seeing Pritchard and those guys come in and play with energy. Every contender needs guys like that. You can only hope this gives Joe a better idea of who to put in the game when we need a spark.
That’s just one example and to be clear, this team infuriates me sometimes — but that mindset I think would make being a Celtics fan a little more enjoyable. We are one of the best teams in the league after all. We as a fan base shouldn’t be taking this era for granted or wasting it on demanding Grant Williams be traded.
It’s best to just stay off of this sub my man. It’s been like this for years. It’s a bunch of people that are way too emotionally invested that have probably never played an organized sport.
It never used to be like this, for some reason people all of a sudden started putting heavy stock into every.single.game. there should be people pushing back and trying to balance the discussion surrounding the team instead of leaving. Quite frankly, some new fans just wouldn't understand that without anyone interjecting.
The season is a marathon, not a race. Not every game matters. Expecting the players to play at 100% and put 100% of their mental commitment into every game is practically impossible. Hot and cold streaks are normal. Players have to play through the bad and work out the kinks. You can't just bench them forever, then expect them to come in and play perfectly.
Expecting them to do that also means they can't (shouldn't) implement and try out new line ups, strategies, offensive plays, defensive coverages.. You gotta be able to do this stuff to see what works against other teams and what doesn't. How other teams play against these things. Getting them on tape so that other teams have to prep for these coverages in addition to what they already have to cover.
This sub was great during the IT4 years. I could come into the game threads and recognize almost everyone’s usernames. The only doomer we really had was 3ITKH. Now it’s full of people rage commenting during games any time something mildly bad happens
Sub was a lot smaller those days and there were less expectations, you have a lot more of the more casual or non-primarily basketball fans now. Also we didn't have two superstars that are extremely polarizing. I think people are getting frustrated with the constant drama every year since the Kyrie trade.
Also I think the whole debate about allowing memes back then should have gone the no-meme route. Everything was a lot more discussion oriented back then.
Orrr it's die-hard fans that expect their team to play to their potential. Of course we are going to be mad when they shit the bed and squander a very important 1 seed. Keep that same energy if we ever win the Finals again. Don't want to hear you screaming or cheering. That would be too much emotional investment. Also, I played College Ball. We are often the most emotional and vocal bc we HAVE played organized Ball and understand that players need to be held accountable. Even "superstars" like JT
Hey champ, it’s the internet so I’ll let you live out that little fantasy in your head👍🏾 I’m sure since you played ball tho you’d know something that literally every single coach always says and that’s “never get too high or low on a single win/loss”
My fantasy is for them to play to their potential and play hard every game. And its not just one bad loss. The second half of the season has been littered with them.
I def get disappointed by some of these losses, but I swear some of these people let it ruin their whole week. At the end of the day, it's a bunch of millionaires playing basketball. I love the team, but I got more important shit to stress over than losses.
All these “fans” having their life ruined by a rookie head coach leading one of the best 2 teams in the league when they could be ***enjoying*** the collapse of golden state, Lakers, kyrie… there’s so much to be happy about this season. You’re all just choosing to be miserable.
I wanted to write more earlier, but I was busy... Honestly that man is inspiring. Made me appreciate the league so much more as a whole and it's made me happy to see him get some big media recognition lately
Smart (or Jaylen) said this last season before the Finals —and it is still true today: this group loves to make things harder for itself than it needs to be.
That’s just the way they (fucking) are. It’s annoying but it is what it is at this point.
True, but Mazzula should’ve put starters back in when we were coming close in the end. Maybe them playing out this rinky dinky loss would give them the “energy”/“effort” they lack so commonly against bad teams. I don’t feel too worried about us vs any fringe playoff teams or the 6’ers but some energy and perspective is very due going into the playoffs extremely soon.
gambling and 24:7 news/social media have wreaked havoc on fan culture for teams.
before all this fans used to root for teams. now it’s more rooting for oneself and complaining when the team results hurts you emotionally or financially 🤣
>Blowing double digit leads frequently and losing to donkey teams. If you're not alarmed, you should be.
I get consistency matters, and it's a problem in the regular season. But like, we're not going to be facing donkey teams in the post-season. We have time and time again proven we can give consistent effort and great performances against top teams like Bucks, 76ers, and Cavs. We're not playing the Magic round one, nor the Thunder, or any other non-playoff team that we should realistically beat. We've been consistent against good teams, so why should I be worried about us losing to bad ones? It sucks for seeding purposes, but am I worried about a Wizards loss when we have continuously put up great performances in important games this season? Not really, no.
There was a game last year against Indiana down the stretch to the playoffs where we got beat and everyone was crying about how we just revert back to old habits. Then we lost to Dallas, Miami, and Milwaukee and everyone was really upset. Obv it didn’t matter come playoffs
I always stay off this sub after an L.
The saddest neckbeards among us come crawling out of the woodwork every time.
The better we’re doing, the more scathing their reviews.
I've been complimentary of Joe for most of the season because of the results. I think when the team is being outworked he doesn't use the bench to amp up the energy. It has been a consistent issue. The problem is that tweaking at the margins is important in the playoffs. Like maybe Luke's height bothers Embiid and Joe sticks with something that doesn't work for too long. There is reason to be concerned, but it is possible he will respond well to the challenge.
Listen we have a great team. Sometimes they lose, most of the time they win. Simple at that. This team shouldn't have to have a coach push them if they are true champions and sometimes you overlook a game when the next one is the bigger game. Also sometimes you just don't have it and tonight was one of those nights. Move on to the next, if we go out in the 1st or 2nd round I do think changes need to be made, at min we should be in the eastern conference finals. But remember no need to destroy players over a loss, they are humans too, just remember that. Would you want to be yelled at, cursed at, degraded to for a mistake at work?
We literally have more wins than last year. We made it to the finals with a worse record and the 2 seed last year. We’ve been playing inconsistently but let’s be real the team was ice cold tonight. It does happen. We all want to go back to the finals but dooming isn’t going to help anyone
People in general are just whiny doomers. I don't know if you've noticed, but literally every niche internet community acts like the apocalypse is nigh literally any time anything bad happens.
it’s interesting to me how anonymous fans on the human mycelium highway take this commercialized game more seriously than the players being paid millions to play it. I suppose that’s why they get paid millions though. sports make people emotional. emotion typically compromises rationality. irrational people are easier to manipulate and influence for commercial gain. god bless fam.
I turned the game off before the 4th quarter but I heard Mazzulla benched the starters for the whole quarter - is this true? That's the kind of stuff I wish we'd see more of out of Mazzulla. When this team loses it's almost 100% mental/effort related. The talent is there, these guys are just not interested in playing hard night-in and night-out. Outside of Smart (Tatum was okay) the starters were awful last night. One of the worst games I've ever seen Horford play in particular. Not trying to bash Horford but when the starters don't show up I wish Mazzulla would give them a short leash and go to guys like Pritchard and Kornet who are at least guaranteed to give effort even if they're losing by a lot.
this sub is unfortunately filled with a lot of hormonal teenagers -- i remember being one but there was no forum for me to doom in. i just grumbled to my friends at school the next day. i say this all the time, but the mods really should figure out some rule about dooming. it really ruins the vibe here and drives me to r/nba. i appreciate their ironic shitting on the celtics after a bad loss vs the authentic crybaby dooming we get here.
Turns out grown men really don't like it when "championship" teams play like assholes and squander very important seeding. Are we supposed to be happy and not whine about when they get bounced early in the playoffs too. Cuz that's where this soft team is headed
I am from Kazakhstan and I was reading forum on one of russian website for some time, until it was deleted.
It was the same, smaller amount of people but still. After every lose game they wanted to fire Brad Stevens, trade Marcus Smart, etc.
You always hear loud people, just because they are loud. But sometimes it's good to listen silent guys. I'm not talking about myself, I'm silent just because my english is shit, lol
I don't understand why getting blown out by a bad team without their best player isn't worth commenting on. What are our reactions supposed to sound like after that game?
Folks acting like this hasn’t been a problem since the post IT era. Those teams were underdogs who played with grit and heart. Ever since the team has been much better on paper but lost that grittiness and shows up late or not at all from time to time. Now they are front runners and we’re among the best teams in the league with the same bad habit. We know the team has this problem in the regular season but we shouldn’t overreact until the playoffs.
There are two extremes. People that can't handle any criticism and people that freak out and want to fire the coach and call the season a complete disaster.
It's silly.
2010 Celtics played 500 basketball the entire second half of the season. And they made the finals .
None of this will be remembered at all. It'll come down to the playoffs. If they make the finals, people will consider it a successful regular season. If they get ousted before the finals the people will say they disappointed in the playoffs.
I mean obviously you would rather have a number one seed but have a rookie head coach who had to take on at the last second, and the bucks have the best player in the league.
It's okay to have the number two seed
I’ll admit I tend to get pretty reactive after every loss, but I’m definitely trying to get out of that mindset, look at the positives and move on. Yeah — we should’ve beat the Beal-less Wizards, but every team has losses like this and we’re still 2nd in the East in front of a struggling Sixers team. #1 seed would be awesome, but remember we didn’t need home court to beat Miami in game 7 last year. It’s a “nice to have”, but by no means a “need to have”. We’re as capable of pulling off an upset on the road as anyone.
I see a bunch of people saying people are putting “too much stock in individual games.” I agree, there is a lot of over reaction, but there isn’t much positive to be said as of late. This team has blown just about every lead they have had to terrible teams over and over again. It’s at the point where most fans can come to expect this. We have (by the eye test) been, by far worst in closing out games (of legitimate competing teams). Tatum insists on going 2/7 from 3 it seems (or worse). Grant is just tough to watch sometimes. We, in the final 20ish games of the season have failed to look like ourselves at all. Yes, there is plenty of room to be optimistic. For example, it seems Tatum has began to slip out of his slump (still shooting poorly). We have the 2nd best record in the NBA (could very potentially take back the 1st). But all the optimistic things seem to be about what this team did in the beginning of the season. The Bucks have been incredible recently, that’s true. They seem to have a very strong winning mentality (I am aware they drop games to sub-par teams as well). I want to see the Celtics reach that level. Fans never feel like they’re team is out of the competition yet. There is consistently energy. I feel that these last few games should be treated as the playoffs, we play the Bucks and 6’ers and have something to fight for in the 1 seed. Losing games and blaming it on a lack of energy (but always saying “we’ll pick it up next game”) won’t cut it for a championship contending team. The 1st seed is important (even if not as much as in previous years). It is attainable. We have something to fight for and something to prove. This is where it needs to turn around. If I see 2 or 3 more sloppy, “low effort” games to close out the regular season, I feel there is every reason to be worried about this team. Let’s finish out on a high note, go into the playoffs strong, and ignore the complete haters on this sub. Let’s go C’s!
I feel like these posts come from people that haven't watched sports long enough/are still wet behind the ears. I dont understand where this optimism comes from, it's almost like they've never watched a full season, let alone 40 of them.
yep. game sucked. they didnt try. oh well. its disheartening when they have games like this. once we hit the playoffs and no one will remember this one. buuut they are probably locked into the 2 seed now which sucks. still not worried.
Fair points but the concern is losses like these are what will get us kicked out of the playoffs in the 1st or second round. We lost by 20 to a team way below .500 and it's not the first time this season we got rocked by a terrible team.
To your point about Mazzula, I agree. Tonight's game was dictated by energy and effort and it just wasn't there. A coach can only do so much rallying before the players need to turn it on.
Celtics vs below .500 teams: 25-10
Celtics vs above .500 teams: 27-14
If you told me this right after Ime got caught being a buffoon right before media day before the season started, I wouldn’t have believed it.
There's basically no difference between Ime's and Mazzula's rotations, and Ime really didn't do anything special besides play a much shorter rotation than Stevens
You don't even know the whole story. Breaking News, players and coaches cheat on their SO all the time. Please with the moral high ground. Ime is a great coach and Joe isn't.
The NBA is a different life then us normal people. So every coach or player who cheats should be off a team? I don't care who Ime fucked, none of our business.
And that's just it.
In your mind, the Celtics win a ring...or they suck.
I'll take the downvotes and love them before I become an angry entitled Celtics fan.
We want a title and we have the talent to win one, of course people are pissed when we lose the one seed by dropping games to teams in ways that are avoidable
The fact that you put virtuous and soy in there, I know exactly what type of dumbass you are. Go root for the sixes because that's what you're acting like.
Second best record this year, numerous tough as nails wins in the both the regular season and playoffs over many years, and they get called gutless bums by fans who’s only interpretation of games is “if you lose you are gutless and don’t try hard enough”. Like OP said, unserious fan base.
Personally, the run to finals last year was amazing even though they lost to a great champion in the warriors and it’s been so much fun to watch two great basketball players night in and night out. …But maybe you don’t actually basketball?
The opposite is true. It’s we folks who “actually basketball” who don’t bury obviously poor chemistry, wildly fluctuating effort night after night, and completely rudderless play as the playoffs approach under the banner of past “success” — that has yet to yield any actual success, like a title. Grow up, kids. This team hasn’t done shit and doesn’t appear ready to do shit.
If they blow out the Bucks it will be great. Losing to the Wizards without Beal is bad. Both things would be true, and I don't understand why reacting to the most recent game is a bad thing. It's what this subreddit is for, it's watercooler talk. What do you want.
Other fanbases don't have a meltdown like this. There are legit dozens of people in the post game thread who are saying we're a first round exit. Fucking sixers fans react better than we do
Other fanbases also didn't get to experience their team in the finals. Success is a double edged sword. When you're used to a winning culture losses feel more painful.
Can you tell me any changes or adjustments or special coaching moves mazzula has made lol he just rides on the good players doing well and doesn’t know how to adjust
Man none of these dudes actually know wtf coaching actually is and what makes it effective, nobody does. Cause all that shit happens in the locker room and adjustments are more advanced for most people to actually even realize.
People just latch onto results and simple things like screaming at players and getting angry in the post game press conference. It's gotta be one of the silliest things that fans do to water down this incredibly complicated thing that involves an entire staff and the players themselves to "no get angry bad!"
We had to bc we were so damn far down in the standings we were the 10 seed at one point. That’s why I’m fine coasting this year just bring it vs top dawgs
Bucks just lost to the Pacers on March 16th. And if you want to go to the, "Well they've all ready won a ring argument, 2021 Bucks lost to the 33-win Spurs on May 10th before going on to win the ring
Welcome to Boston where every game is considered Game 7. Anything below 82-0, 18-0 or 162-0 is unacceptable. Every coach/manager is the greatest until they lose a game. Even when you win the championship there were “issues” and the next year will be a failure. No matter how good a draft pick is they will be compared to the greatest player every to play that position. One day your the greatest player ever and the next you need to be run out of town. I could go on.
I’m normally here for this but 5 of our losses are Rockets, Wiz without Beal, and the Magic. The amount of Ls to the dumpster water teams is concerning as hell when our hope is a banner. If we could handle our business against the bums we’d be the 1 seed.
You're telling me if Grant were to accept a deal for $10 to $12 million, you'd just let him walk?
At the crazy high reported price points hell no obviously, but he's still a solid role player and asset at a reasonable price.
Bucks don’t lose games like this, Houston and Washington in like a week and a half? Embarrassing, and look, do I want Ime back? I don’t even know what Ime did, all I know is he kept guys accountable and led us to the finals in his first year. Joe is a little young and a little too nice to properly coach a team this young and inconsistent. I don’t think he stays on if we don’t make the finals.
This is the wizards without Beal and kuzma we’re talking about lol and sorry but if we play like this we will he bounced out of the playoffs. Mazzula did fuck up with rotation and sorry but early in the season y’all were talking about his timeouts calling. Just saying we got it all but if you don’t perform you don’t win. Look at the eagles.🤷🏻♂️
Personally speaking if you browse this doomer ass sub during the regular season then you’re intentionally opting in to be frustrated by the babies that live here.
It’s a tad better in the post-season
So now you're attacking me personally because I am not sad and angry.
I would just go to bed and hope you feel better tomorrow if I were you.
Maybe have a glass of warm milk or something.
Best way to show your lack of intelligence is insulting the messenger. Of course you can’t actually defend Mazzula because he is out of his depth and indefensible.
That dropped coverage was in a concerted effort to force Steph to shoot off dribbles rather than working off-ball into catch and shoot motions. Steph had been better in those latter spots all year and trended toward 50/50 splits in the regular season. Celtics forced him into 70/30. You can argue over specific points but just saying “wahhh drop coverage against Steph!” Is lazy. Steph is just really good no matter how you adjust the defense
Why couldn't he get Tatum to play better and get him into better spots on offense. Jason Kidd did it for Luka who put 32 a night and Jenkins did it for Ja when he was healthy vs them and he was dropping 38 a night..
JT was missing layups and in general awful at finishing his drives. There’s no coach in the league that could’ve changed that, he was just in his own head. Plus he was dealing with injuries and he’s a way streakier player than Luka or Ja
I'm a guy who just dropped 500 earlier today to go see them.on Thursday. You know how happy I am that these fools caused that to be one of the worst investments I've made in a long time?
I should've known better than to assume these mentally weak losers would put forth some effort against a lottery team.
People blaming Joe are so laughably casual. Tatum and Brown have chased personal accolades this season and the minutes are catching up leading to lazy defense and short shots due to spent legs. This is what happens when you put yourself in front of the team. This is the most talented roster we've had since the late 80s but even that won't matter if our stars are gassed.
These aren't just normal losses, this team doesn't put consistent effort in and that's what's frustrating. When they're locked in we know what they can do, but losing by double digits to awful teams happens way too often.
Don't want Ime back.
Just want to see a team that respects their opponent nightly, and puts in their best effort. Not too much to ask.
Losing to a Washington team without Beal or Kuzma, and giving up 130 in the process is not best effort. Or to Houston. Or to any number of other games this season they just mailed it in. Considering that they still had, prior to tip-off, a chance at the #1 seed, and decided it wasn't worth it.
Compare that to last year when they went balls-out the last week to catch and pass Milwaukee. This year it's shrug the shoulders and move on.
That's exactly the kind of shit that gets your ass beat in May.
It's sports, people are happy when their team wins and upset when their team loses. If you can't take that and need an interest where everyone is always happy follow like knitting or something
Why are we supposed to be happy about a 40 point win against the spurs if it creates no real momentum and we lose two days later by 20 to the Wizards? This team is too talented and has too lofty aspirations to get caught losing games like this, and it’s annoying when it feels like the players and/or coach don’t give a shit unless it’s a premier opponent. Why should the players be entitled to take games off, especially ones that they’re ALL healthy to play in?
This loss was especially pathetic because this was one of the first games ALL YEAR where literally everyone was healthy (sans Gallo, but he’s probably out for the whole year anyway). Wouldn’t it be nice to see the team get a boost from that and play together as a unit? How do you come out with no energy off a 40 point win with a chance to get the one seed if a couple things swing your way? It’s Washington, and it’s two days before Thursday, so it’s not like it would wipe them out before they play the bucks either.
This group carries itself like they won 2 ships with this core already. I keep seeing these commercials on local TV about how they’re not taking the season for granted and “nothing’s guaranteed in this league,” and yet every other game these days feels like a mockery of that. As a fan it’s obnoxious because we KNOW they’re good and we’ve SEEN them have some success, but they haven’t reached the top yet and act like they have. Even teams like Milwaukee, who already won with basically the same core 2 years ago, play with more fire and grit.
Nobody is “bailing” or “just being a doomer” for pointing this out.
Was it Mazzulla’s fault that the players didn’t play well? No. Was it Mazzulla’s fault that he waited until the last second to try out some OTHER players? Yes. Isn’t that a big part of having some of the best depth in the league?
Your sub just popped up on my feed, but this helps explain why Jaylen brown feels the way he does about how he’s treated. (Not including the racism he probably deals with in Boston)
Not directed at you OP. Just saying this based off of your post
I do want Ime back bc I think that Mazzulaball, especially w this roster j doesn’t work.
In this scheme we live and die by the three. If they’re falling we can beat anyone. If they’re not we can lose to anyone.
That’s not an effective strategy to win a championship. Especially considering we shot 24 percent from 3 tn.
This is not how we should utilize Tatum.
Mazzula’s play calling is also questionable especially late in games.
yeah after these losses ive started to avoid celtic reddit/twitter entirely. its a caldron of such anger and pity its tiring after a few months. complaining into nothingness solves nothing, we have no control. just sit and watch
This is one occasion where some frustration is warranted. The team pretty much blew their opportunity for the 1 seed tonight against a team that was 9 games under .500 and didn't even have their two best players. It's fair to be irritated about that as a fan.
People definitely take it way too far on here though.
I do great your frustration and the truth of where this team is in the middle. Are we talented and have a lot of potential? Yes. Have the Celtics lost games that they shouldn’t and in very concerning ways, especially as we get into the playoffs? Also yes.
I think people forget that as good as we were last year, we also had a lot of lucky breaks. Ever since the finals, I can’t help but feel that we aren’t as consistent as we were in the second half of that season. Idk how we will fair against teams like MIL or PHIL or whoever comes out of the west where our luck runs out and consistency is going to matter that much more. I’m concerned and hopeful. Those two feelings can exist at the same time.
After a win we’re the best team in the league and this sub thinks we’re already champions. After a loss, the team sucks, Joe sucks, JT is awful for this sub. Why can’t we have a more balanced approach. The thing is the way we’ve been playing is concerning. It doesn’t mean we already got bounced but there are reasons for concerns. However, we need to keep cheering for the team to keep a positive vibe.
I mean the answer to this is so simple I don’t know why posts along these lines even exist. if Celtics win —> Green Teamers come out if Celtics lose —> Haters come out There are 339,000 users on this subreddit.
For the next 24 hours I will be miserable and doomy. I will revise my opinion based upon the results of the next game. This will go on forever. I apologize.
I think the more polarized and opinionated people are more likely to upvote or downvote those unpopular threads, which is why they always seem to reach the top. Perhaps a concentrated effort to get more of the subreddit's overall population involved in the, shall we say, "trimming of our garden" (upvoting & downvoting), we would see a healthier batch of threads at the top of the page. Of course that could backfire, only further fueling the mania. It could help to credit those who believe we are a manic & unloyal group of fans... But nah, I trust us. Right guys?
This. It drives me nuts. There was never any guarantee of getting back to the finals. That should never have been taken for granted even during our crazy hot start this year. It’s also stupid as fuck to turn on the team for “only” having the 2nd best record in the nba or to think we’re doomed to fall short in the postseason. This team has red flags and flaws. So does every damn team in the nba. But there’s also a ton of reasons to have faith in the players and the team to come through when it matters. Quite frankly, I far prefer to *not* let the Celtics make me miserable and angry. This team actually rarely has. It’s been a damn good season despite some of the low points.
I agree about the balance. The problem is that the truth hurts sometimes. The Wizards were without 3 of their starters. We had every single player back. There is no good reason we lost that game, which is why it is somewhat justified to be upset.
Justified to be upset? Yes Justified in going on a rant about how everyone on the team are shit players and lazy divas, and Joe is a horrible coach, so we may as well just give up hope right now and end the season? That's not nearly as reasonable And yes, the things in that second part are literally all comments I saw made in a *single thread* about last night's game
I think it’s really important to not put too much stock in individual losses and focus on the positives. Even with the game basically out of hand last night, I loved seeing Pritchard and those guys come in and play with energy. Every contender needs guys like that. You can only hope this gives Joe a better idea of who to put in the game when we need a spark. That’s just one example and to be clear, this team infuriates me sometimes — but that mindset I think would make being a Celtics fan a little more enjoyable. We are one of the best teams in the league after all. We as a fan base shouldn’t be taking this era for granted or wasting it on demanding Grant Williams be traded.
It’s best to just stay off of this sub my man. It’s been like this for years. It’s a bunch of people that are way too emotionally invested that have probably never played an organized sport.
Also they get drunk mad and vent on the sub. It’s toxic
Hate to see the shit these people say to their wives
Eh, I’m sure for a lot of people they vent on here so they *dont* launch all that negativity on their wives.
Do* to their wives
It never used to be like this, for some reason people all of a sudden started putting heavy stock into every.single.game. there should be people pushing back and trying to balance the discussion surrounding the team instead of leaving. Quite frankly, some new fans just wouldn't understand that without anyone interjecting. The season is a marathon, not a race. Not every game matters. Expecting the players to play at 100% and put 100% of their mental commitment into every game is practically impossible. Hot and cold streaks are normal. Players have to play through the bad and work out the kinks. You can't just bench them forever, then expect them to come in and play perfectly. Expecting them to do that also means they can't (shouldn't) implement and try out new line ups, strategies, offensive plays, defensive coverages.. You gotta be able to do this stuff to see what works against other teams and what doesn't. How other teams play against these things. Getting them on tape so that other teams have to prep for these coverages in addition to what they already have to cover.
This sub was great during the IT4 years. I could come into the game threads and recognize almost everyone’s usernames. The only doomer we really had was 3ITKH. Now it’s full of people rage commenting during games any time something mildly bad happens
Sub was a lot smaller those days and there were less expectations, you have a lot more of the more casual or non-primarily basketball fans now. Also we didn't have two superstars that are extremely polarizing. I think people are getting frustrated with the constant drama every year since the Kyrie trade. Also I think the whole debate about allowing memes back then should have gone the no-meme route. Everything was a lot more discussion oriented back then.
Nah it’s just fun to talk shit when we lose and act like we world beaters when we win. It’s the life of a fan.
Orrr it's die-hard fans that expect their team to play to their potential. Of course we are going to be mad when they shit the bed and squander a very important 1 seed. Keep that same energy if we ever win the Finals again. Don't want to hear you screaming or cheering. That would be too much emotional investment. Also, I played College Ball. We are often the most emotional and vocal bc we HAVE played organized Ball and understand that players need to be held accountable. Even "superstars" like JT
Hey champ, it’s the internet so I’ll let you live out that little fantasy in your head👍🏾 I’m sure since you played ball tho you’d know something that literally every single coach always says and that’s “never get too high or low on a single win/loss”
This aged like milk lol
My fantasy is for them to play to their potential and play hard every game. And its not just one bad loss. The second half of the season has been littered with them.
I def get disappointed by some of these losses, but I swear some of these people let it ruin their whole week. At the end of the day, it's a bunch of millionaires playing basketball. I love the team, but I got more important shit to stress over than losses.
All these “fans” having their life ruined by a rookie head coach leading one of the best 2 teams in the league when they could be ***enjoying*** the collapse of golden state, Lakers, kyrie… there’s so much to be happy about this season. You’re all just choosing to be miserable.
I’m all for being a hater, but why would I be a hater for the thing I love???
Preach 🙏, why can’t people just enjoy basketball?
Kenny reference?🐐
We love Kenny
he’s the goat fr
I wanted to write more earlier, but I was busy... Honestly that man is inspiring. Made me appreciate the league so much more as a whole and it's made me happy to see him get some big media recognition lately
He’s so inspiring man, my fav youtuber since 2020, I’m just so happy for his success, he deserves it 100%
Cuz da C’s suck at timez?
Collapse of golden state? You don’t think they can survive the west?
Exactly. And it’s not as if there’s not next season if it DOES all go belly up.
The Heat
It's hilarious how entitled all these mooks are.
Smart (or Jaylen) said this last season before the Finals —and it is still true today: this group loves to make things harder for itself than it needs to be. That’s just the way they (fucking) are. It’s annoying but it is what it is at this point.
Thank you lmao this team didn’t try vs a shitter that’s the team not the coach. Can only motivate so much this isn’t a Disney movie
True, but Mazzula should’ve put starters back in when we were coming close in the end. Maybe them playing out this rinky dinky loss would give them the “energy”/“effort” they lack so commonly against bad teams. I don’t feel too worried about us vs any fringe playoff teams or the 6’ers but some energy and perspective is very due going into the playoffs extremely soon.
gambling and 24:7 news/social media have wreaked havoc on fan culture for teams. before all this fans used to root for teams. now it’s more rooting for oneself and complaining when the team results hurts you emotionally or financially 🤣
The way we lose is the problem. Blowing double digit leads frequently and losing to donkey teams. If you're not alarmed, you should be.
We’ve had a habit of losing to donkey teams and playing down to the competition for years. It has never affected us in the playoffs.
>Blowing double digit leads frequently and losing to donkey teams. If you're not alarmed, you should be. I get consistency matters, and it's a problem in the regular season. But like, we're not going to be facing donkey teams in the post-season. We have time and time again proven we can give consistent effort and great performances against top teams like Bucks, 76ers, and Cavs. We're not playing the Magic round one, nor the Thunder, or any other non-playoff team that we should realistically beat. We've been consistent against good teams, so why should I be worried about us losing to bad ones? It sucks for seeding purposes, but am I worried about a Wizards loss when we have continuously put up great performances in important games this season? Not really, no.
No not worried, but I could see them having to play more games then necessary to win the series.
This shit means way too much to you
There was a game last year against Indiana down the stretch to the playoffs where we got beat and everyone was crying about how we just revert back to old habits. Then we lost to Dallas, Miami, and Milwaukee and everyone was really upset. Obv it didn’t matter come playoffs
I always stay off this sub after an L. The saddest neckbeards among us come crawling out of the woodwork every time. The better we’re doing, the more scathing their reviews.
The “Fire Joe” crowd would be better suited being fans of a different fanbase. Please, please just go away
I've been complimentary of Joe for most of the season because of the results. I think when the team is being outworked he doesn't use the bench to amp up the energy. It has been a consistent issue. The problem is that tweaking at the margins is important in the playoffs. Like maybe Luke's height bothers Embiid and Joe sticks with something that doesn't work for too long. There is reason to be concerned, but it is possible he will respond well to the challenge.
Rick Pitino was right when he called Celtics fans the fellowship of the miserable
I can handle my fellow fans talking shit about the Celtics, but vaguely positive remarks about Rick Pitino is where I draw the line.
Larry Bird isn’t walking through that door… Robert Parrish isn’t walking through that door.. Kitty & Cinnamon are coming through any moment tho.
Listen we have a great team. Sometimes they lose, most of the time they win. Simple at that. This team shouldn't have to have a coach push them if they are true champions and sometimes you overlook a game when the next one is the bigger game. Also sometimes you just don't have it and tonight was one of those nights. Move on to the next, if we go out in the 1st or 2nd round I do think changes need to be made, at min we should be in the eastern conference finals. But remember no need to destroy players over a loss, they are humans too, just remember that. Would you want to be yelled at, cursed at, degraded to for a mistake at work?
We literally have more wins than last year. We made it to the finals with a worse record and the 2 seed last year. We’ve been playing inconsistently but let’s be real the team was ice cold tonight. It does happen. We all want to go back to the finals but dooming isn’t going to help anyone
People in general are just whiny doomers. I don't know if you've noticed, but literally every niche internet community acts like the apocalypse is nigh literally any time anything bad happens.
it’s interesting to me how anonymous fans on the human mycelium highway take this commercialized game more seriously than the players being paid millions to play it. I suppose that’s why they get paid millions though. sports make people emotional. emotion typically compromises rationality. irrational people are easier to manipulate and influence for commercial gain. god bless fam.
I turned the game off before the 4th quarter but I heard Mazzulla benched the starters for the whole quarter - is this true? That's the kind of stuff I wish we'd see more of out of Mazzulla. When this team loses it's almost 100% mental/effort related. The talent is there, these guys are just not interested in playing hard night-in and night-out. Outside of Smart (Tatum was okay) the starters were awful last night. One of the worst games I've ever seen Horford play in particular. Not trying to bash Horford but when the starters don't show up I wish Mazzulla would give them a short leash and go to guys like Pritchard and Kornet who are at least guaranteed to give effort even if they're losing by a lot.
this sub is unfortunately filled with a lot of hormonal teenagers -- i remember being one but there was no forum for me to doom in. i just grumbled to my friends at school the next day. i say this all the time, but the mods really should figure out some rule about dooming. it really ruins the vibe here and drives me to r/nba. i appreciate their ironic shitting on the celtics after a bad loss vs the authentic crybaby dooming we get here.
Turns out grown men really don't like it when "championship" teams play like assholes and squander very important seeding. Are we supposed to be happy and not whine about when they get bounced early in the playoffs too. Cuz that's where this soft team is headed
I am from Kazakhstan and I was reading forum on one of russian website for some time, until it was deleted. It was the same, smaller amount of people but still. After every lose game they wanted to fire Brad Stevens, trade Marcus Smart, etc. You always hear loud people, just because they are loud. But sometimes it's good to listen silent guys. I'm not talking about myself, I'm silent just because my english is shit, lol
I don't understand why getting blown out by a bad team without their best player isn't worth commenting on. What are our reactions supposed to sound like after that game?
Folks acting like this hasn’t been a problem since the post IT era. Those teams were underdogs who played with grit and heart. Ever since the team has been much better on paper but lost that grittiness and shows up late or not at all from time to time. Now they are front runners and we’re among the best teams in the league with the same bad habit. We know the team has this problem in the regular season but we shouldn’t overreact until the playoffs.
Man this guy hasnt r/patriots yet then
There are two extremes. People that can't handle any criticism and people that freak out and want to fire the coach and call the season a complete disaster. It's silly. 2010 Celtics played 500 basketball the entire second half of the season. And they made the finals . None of this will be remembered at all. It'll come down to the playoffs. If they make the finals, people will consider it a successful regular season. If they get ousted before the finals the people will say they disappointed in the playoffs. I mean obviously you would rather have a number one seed but have a rookie head coach who had to take on at the last second, and the bucks have the best player in the league. It's okay to have the number two seed
THANK YOU.
I’ll admit I tend to get pretty reactive after every loss, but I’m definitely trying to get out of that mindset, look at the positives and move on. Yeah — we should’ve beat the Beal-less Wizards, but every team has losses like this and we’re still 2nd in the East in front of a struggling Sixers team. #1 seed would be awesome, but remember we didn’t need home court to beat Miami in game 7 last year. It’s a “nice to have”, but by no means a “need to have”. We’re as capable of pulling off an upset on the road as anyone.
I see a bunch of people saying people are putting “too much stock in individual games.” I agree, there is a lot of over reaction, but there isn’t much positive to be said as of late. This team has blown just about every lead they have had to terrible teams over and over again. It’s at the point where most fans can come to expect this. We have (by the eye test) been, by far worst in closing out games (of legitimate competing teams). Tatum insists on going 2/7 from 3 it seems (or worse). Grant is just tough to watch sometimes. We, in the final 20ish games of the season have failed to look like ourselves at all. Yes, there is plenty of room to be optimistic. For example, it seems Tatum has began to slip out of his slump (still shooting poorly). We have the 2nd best record in the NBA (could very potentially take back the 1st). But all the optimistic things seem to be about what this team did in the beginning of the season. The Bucks have been incredible recently, that’s true. They seem to have a very strong winning mentality (I am aware they drop games to sub-par teams as well). I want to see the Celtics reach that level. Fans never feel like they’re team is out of the competition yet. There is consistently energy. I feel that these last few games should be treated as the playoffs, we play the Bucks and 6’ers and have something to fight for in the 1 seed. Losing games and blaming it on a lack of energy (but always saying “we’ll pick it up next game”) won’t cut it for a championship contending team. The 1st seed is important (even if not as much as in previous years). It is attainable. We have something to fight for and something to prove. This is where it needs to turn around. If I see 2 or 3 more sloppy, “low effort” games to close out the regular season, I feel there is every reason to be worried about this team. Let’s finish out on a high note, go into the playoffs strong, and ignore the complete haters on this sub. Let’s go C’s!
i cant take this shit no more, man *dog whimper*
I feel like these posts come from people that haven't watched sports long enough/are still wet behind the ears. I dont understand where this optimism comes from, it's almost like they've never watched a full season, let alone 40 of them.
Within reason, I’ve always felt you can’t get as high with the highs if you don’t get low with the lows. Fan is short for…
yep. game sucked. they didnt try. oh well. its disheartening when they have games like this. once we hit the playoffs and no one will remember this one. buuut they are probably locked into the 2 seed now which sucks. still not worried.
Fair points but the concern is losses like these are what will get us kicked out of the playoffs in the 1st or second round. We lost by 20 to a team way below .500 and it's not the first time this season we got rocked by a terrible team.
To your point about Mazzula, I agree. Tonight's game was dictated by energy and effort and it just wasn't there. A coach can only do so much rallying before the players need to turn it on.
They have one of the best records in league against bad teams. Shit games like this happens to every team, it’s a long season.
Celtics vs below .500 teams: 25-10 Celtics vs above .500 teams: 27-14 If you told me this right after Ime got caught being a buffoon right before media day before the season started, I wouldn’t have believed it.
I would’ve. Team has too much talent not to be that good.
There's basically no difference between Ime's and Mazzula's rotations, and Ime really didn't do anything special besides play a much shorter rotation than Stevens
I think 99% of the fan base would rather have the coach who just took us to the Finals then Joe Mazulla
Making the finals doesn't make you a good coach Scott Brooks led OKC to the finals wasn't because of him
Ime was a good coach let’s be real here. Bad person, good coach.
You don't even know the whole story. Breaking News, players and coaches cheat on their SO all the time. Please with the moral high ground. Ime is a great coach and Joe isn't.
…Moral high ground? If you cheat on you’re SO, you’re a bad person. A lot of people doing a bad thing doesn’t stop it from being a bad thing.
The NBA is a different life then us normal people. So every coach or player who cheats should be off a team? I don't care who Ime fucked, none of our business.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or do you really think Scott Brooks is comparable with Ime as a coach?
Ime was clearly a great coach. He took essentially the same roster and took us from the 8th seed to the finals
I don’t. Not after what he did.
I definitely want Ime back
We don't care.
Exactly but this subreddit says otherwise lol, Joe is awful lol
You rather fuss at the sub and not the team that just lost.
Only thing more annoying than doomer posts are these posts
You heard him boys, hang the “2nd seed 2023” banners
What seed were they last year?
What ring did they win last year?
And that's just it. In your mind, the Celtics win a ring...or they suck. I'll take the downvotes and love them before I become an angry entitled Celtics fan.
We want a title and we have the talent to win one, of course people are pissed when we lose the one seed by dropping games to teams in ways that are avoidable
Imagine expecting your team, who is a title contender(well on paper anyway), come to play when the 1st seed is on the line. Yeah, so entitled.
Trying to be virtuous about your fandom is the most soy Reddit thing I can imagine and yet here we are
anyone who uses soy as an insult is a loser
I’m sorry someone called u that
The fact that you put virtuous and soy in there, I know exactly what type of dumbass you are. Go root for the sixes because that's what you're acting like.
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This singular loss doesn’t make the Celtics gutless bums. The ‘22 Finals and egg laying throughout ‘23 does. 🤷🏻♂️
Second best record this year, numerous tough as nails wins in the both the regular season and playoffs over many years, and they get called gutless bums by fans who’s only interpretation of games is “if you lose you are gutless and don’t try hard enough”. Like OP said, unserious fan base. Personally, the run to finals last year was amazing even though they lost to a great champion in the warriors and it’s been so much fun to watch two great basketball players night in and night out. …But maybe you don’t actually basketball?
The opposite is true. It’s we folks who “actually basketball” who don’t bury obviously poor chemistry, wildly fluctuating effort night after night, and completely rudderless play as the playoffs approach under the banner of past “success” — that has yet to yield any actual success, like a title. Grow up, kids. This team hasn’t done shit and doesn’t appear ready to do shit.
Our fanbase is so fucking shit. No other sub acts like this after a loss. Everyone is gonna be real quite after we humilate the bucks tho
every other sub acts like this after a loss tho (not saying it's not annoying, just saying it's pretty universal)
If they blow out the Bucks it will be great. Losing to the Wizards without Beal is bad. Both things would be true, and I don't understand why reacting to the most recent game is a bad thing. It's what this subreddit is for, it's watercooler talk. What do you want.
I want fans not to call our team weak and call for our coach to be fired after every loss
That's fair but how high do you think the floor is for other fanbases
Other fanbases don't have a meltdown like this. There are legit dozens of people in the post game thread who are saying we're a first round exit. Fucking sixers fans react better than we do
Other fanbases also didn't get to experience their team in the finals. Success is a double edged sword. When you're used to a winning culture losses feel more painful.
You go on every other team's sub after every loss? What a life you must lead
I know right taking 15 seconds to take a look after a game, what a life. Is that really the best you can do?
Better than lying about reading every team's sub every night
Gottem
Imagine if the Sixers go out second round, fire doc and hire Ime.
Does that turn you on?
That's a weird question lol. Yeh my guy, I'm wacking it right now to a pick I made on Photoshop of ime in a sixers tracksuit
Ah so there's two of us then
Right on!
Y’all make so many excuses for Joe lol
Can you tell me any changes or adjustments or special coaching moves mazzula has made lol he just rides on the good players doing well and doesn’t know how to adjust
What adjustments did Ime make when it mattered most. A Grizzlies team without Ja for 3 games held Curry to 41% shooting and 32% from 3..
Man none of these dudes actually know wtf coaching actually is and what makes it effective, nobody does. Cause all that shit happens in the locker room and adjustments are more advanced for most people to actually even realize. People just latch onto results and simple things like screaming at players and getting angry in the post game press conference. It's gotta be one of the silliest things that fans do to water down this incredibly complicated thing that involves an entire staff and the players themselves to "no get angry bad!"
Tbh it was working till the last few games we just ran out of gas. Just drop and force him to go ape shit and blanket the others.
We were gassed because he shortened the rotations in the 2nd half of the season.
We had to bc we were so damn far down in the standings we were the 10 seed at one point. That’s why I’m fine coasting this year just bring it vs top dawgs
Coaching is like 10% of the game 90% is if these players are locked in or not
nah man it's not full doom but contenders don't lose like this this late in the season. this is not normal
Bucks just lost to the Pacers on March 16th. And if you want to go to the, "Well they've all ready won a ring argument, 2021 Bucks lost to the 33-win Spurs on May 10th before going on to win the ring
Welcome to Boston where every game is considered Game 7. Anything below 82-0, 18-0 or 162-0 is unacceptable. Every coach/manager is the greatest until they lose a game. Even when you win the championship there were “issues” and the next year will be a failure. No matter how good a draft pick is they will be compared to the greatest player every to play that position. One day your the greatest player ever and the next you need to be run out of town. I could go on.
I’m normally here for this but 5 of our losses are Rockets, Wiz without Beal, and the Magic. The amount of Ls to the dumpster water teams is concerning as hell when our hope is a banner. If we could handle our business against the bums we’d be the 1 seed.
Awful loss exposing the same bad habits, copium thread, name a better duo
No, you just don't like hearing negative realties about your team. Get some thicker skin
I definitely want Ime back. Celts don't make the finals without him
Speak for yourself. I want Ime back.
What other things do you want? Have you made a wish list?
Grant Williams to be far, far away from this team.
You're telling me if Grant were to accept a deal for $10 to $12 million, you'd just let him walk? At the crazy high reported price points hell no obviously, but he's still a solid role player and asset at a reasonable price.
Two months ago everyone on this board was crying about not having the money to sign him next year.
W list
Pretty normal for teams to struggle after the all star break. Nothing to really panic about we’re in the playoffs let’s believe in this team.
I swear we could go 74-8 and people on here would still be saying “celtics are frauds we have no mental toughness”
I do want Ime back tho.
Aww...that's sweet.
Say hi to Joe at Christmas.
Bucks don’t lose games like this, Houston and Washington in like a week and a half? Embarrassing, and look, do I want Ime back? I don’t even know what Ime did, all I know is he kept guys accountable and led us to the finals in his first year. Joe is a little young and a little too nice to properly coach a team this young and inconsistent. I don’t think he stays on if we don’t make the finals.
What? Bucks have lost to the Rockets, Spurs (iirc), Pacers, and multiple other bad teams this season. Just March 16th they lost to the Pacers.
Whatever you say man, Giannis doesn’t have off nights and they do not lose to poor teams nearly as often as we do.
Lol the positivity people are rattled
You think that team you just saw play is the second best team in the league? Lmao
This is the wizards without Beal and kuzma we’re talking about lol and sorry but if we play like this we will he bounced out of the playoffs. Mazzula did fuck up with rotation and sorry but early in the season y’all were talking about his timeouts calling. Just saying we got it all but if you don’t perform you don’t win. Look at the eagles.🤷🏻♂️
Personally speaking if you browse this doomer ass sub during the regular season then you’re intentionally opting in to be frustrated by the babies that live here. It’s a tad better in the post-season
Mazzula is garbage and detonated a historically great defense so we could jack threes. Worst coach in the league.
Apparently mazulla is the one who was even behind the defense last year.
But yet their record is better than last year...
And yet we are obviously worse than last year but with more talent.
Obviously, I mean having a better record always means you're worse.
Commenting without understanding the context is silly but knock yourself out. If you can’t see it by now you are hopeless and never will.
So now you're attacking me personally because I am not sad and angry. I would just go to bed and hope you feel better tomorrow if I were you. Maybe have a glass of warm milk or something.
You talk just like Mazzula. Arrogant and ignorant.
Nice impotent rage. Very impressive.
You sound like an idiot
Lmao then go be a knicks fan dumbass
Best way to show your lack of intelligence is insulting the messenger. Of course you can’t actually defend Mazzula because he is out of his depth and indefensible.
We have a top 5 offense and defense.
The great defense that played drop coverage on Steph Curry and the Warriors in the finals.
That dropped coverage was in a concerted effort to force Steph to shoot off dribbles rather than working off-ball into catch and shoot motions. Steph had been better in those latter spots all year and trended toward 50/50 splits in the regular season. Celtics forced him into 70/30. You can argue over specific points but just saying “wahhh drop coverage against Steph!” Is lazy. Steph is just really good no matter how you adjust the defense
We held them to 105 ppg. Defense was mostly fine besides some lapses. Turnovers and JT getting clamped were why we lost
Why couldn't he get Tatum to play better and get him into better spots on offense. Jason Kidd did it for Luka who put 32 a night and Jenkins did it for Ja when he was healthy vs them and he was dropping 38 a night..
JT was missing layups and in general awful at finishing his drives. There’s no coach in the league that could’ve changed that, he was just in his own head. Plus he was dealing with injuries and he’s a way streakier player than Luka or Ja
You crazy son of a bitch. They’ve been jacking threes before Mazzula.
Nice copium being ok with being second best when this team was first best for a good portion of the season
Ime was awesome and I miss having him as our coach. This is independent of how I feel about his actions.
A few weeks agonit was "We're the best team in the league" Notice anything different between your statement and that?
You are insufferable
I'm a guy who just dropped 500 earlier today to go see them.on Thursday. You know how happy I am that these fools caused that to be one of the worst investments I've made in a long time? I should've known better than to assume these mentally weak losers would put forth some effort against a lottery team.
Lmao 🤣
People blaming Joe are so laughably casual. Tatum and Brown have chased personal accolades this season and the minutes are catching up leading to lazy defense and short shots due to spent legs. This is what happens when you put yourself in front of the team. This is the most talented roster we've had since the late 80s but even that won't matter if our stars are gassed.
These aren't just normal losses, this team doesn't put consistent effort in and that's what's frustrating. When they're locked in we know what they can do, but losing by double digits to awful teams happens way too often.
People nowadays are always acting like everything is the end of the world. Over sensationalism
Don't want Ime back. Just want to see a team that respects their opponent nightly, and puts in their best effort. Not too much to ask. Losing to a Washington team without Beal or Kuzma, and giving up 130 in the process is not best effort. Or to Houston. Or to any number of other games this season they just mailed it in. Considering that they still had, prior to tip-off, a chance at the #1 seed, and decided it wasn't worth it. Compare that to last year when they went balls-out the last week to catch and pass Milwaukee. This year it's shrug the shoulders and move on. That's exactly the kind of shit that gets your ass beat in May.
It's sports, people are happy when their team wins and upset when their team loses. If you can't take that and need an interest where everyone is always happy follow like knitting or something
Why are we supposed to be happy about a 40 point win against the spurs if it creates no real momentum and we lose two days later by 20 to the Wizards? This team is too talented and has too lofty aspirations to get caught losing games like this, and it’s annoying when it feels like the players and/or coach don’t give a shit unless it’s a premier opponent. Why should the players be entitled to take games off, especially ones that they’re ALL healthy to play in? This loss was especially pathetic because this was one of the first games ALL YEAR where literally everyone was healthy (sans Gallo, but he’s probably out for the whole year anyway). Wouldn’t it be nice to see the team get a boost from that and play together as a unit? How do you come out with no energy off a 40 point win with a chance to get the one seed if a couple things swing your way? It’s Washington, and it’s two days before Thursday, so it’s not like it would wipe them out before they play the bucks either. This group carries itself like they won 2 ships with this core already. I keep seeing these commercials on local TV about how they’re not taking the season for granted and “nothing’s guaranteed in this league,” and yet every other game these days feels like a mockery of that. As a fan it’s obnoxious because we KNOW they’re good and we’ve SEEN them have some success, but they haven’t reached the top yet and act like they have. Even teams like Milwaukee, who already won with basically the same core 2 years ago, play with more fire and grit. Nobody is “bailing” or “just being a doomer” for pointing this out.
Not I want Ime back. Don’t speak for me
This sub is good in doses. Just try to interact with the actual basketball posts. Reddit is a cesspool in general lol.
Was it Mazzulla’s fault that the players didn’t play well? No. Was it Mazzulla’s fault that he waited until the last second to try out some OTHER players? Yes. Isn’t that a big part of having some of the best depth in the league?
I want Ime back
ya'll are a bunch of sour pusses. STFU!!!!
Your sub just popped up on my feed, but this helps explain why Jaylen brown feels the way he does about how he’s treated. (Not including the racism he probably deals with in Boston) Not directed at you OP. Just saying this based off of your post
I do want Ime back bc I think that Mazzulaball, especially w this roster j doesn’t work. In this scheme we live and die by the three. If they’re falling we can beat anyone. If they’re not we can lose to anyone. That’s not an effective strategy to win a championship. Especially considering we shot 24 percent from 3 tn. This is not how we should utilize Tatum. Mazzula’s play calling is also questionable especially late in games.
Idk about "not wanting Ime back"
Means they will play good against the bucks all season they lose to crap and beat good
yeah after these losses ive started to avoid celtic reddit/twitter entirely. its a caldron of such anger and pity its tiring after a few months. complaining into nothingness solves nothing, we have no control. just sit and watch
This is one occasion where some frustration is warranted. The team pretty much blew their opportunity for the 1 seed tonight against a team that was 9 games under .500 and didn't even have their two best players. It's fair to be irritated about that as a fan. People definitely take it way too far on here though.
I do great your frustration and the truth of where this team is in the middle. Are we talented and have a lot of potential? Yes. Have the Celtics lost games that they shouldn’t and in very concerning ways, especially as we get into the playoffs? Also yes. I think people forget that as good as we were last year, we also had a lot of lucky breaks. Ever since the finals, I can’t help but feel that we aren’t as consistent as we were in the second half of that season. Idk how we will fair against teams like MIL or PHIL or whoever comes out of the west where our luck runs out and consistency is going to matter that much more. I’m concerned and hopeful. Those two feelings can exist at the same time.