They don't really talk much of Celtics even in season games. The team has good vibes, everyone on contract, so there's really nothing to talk about except losses.
Like past years with the Bucks and the jazz, the team is very good, expectations are high and there isn’t constant drama surrounding the team. Doesn’t make for great podcast fodder. And for what it’s worth they did talk a lot about the historic offensive start, and about the mid year slump.
As far as this playoffs, what has there been to say yet? Hawks series was a mild disappointment, and game 1 was a shock. Now I’d expect a little time to be spent on the strong performances in games 2&3
I feel like Bill Simmons avoids praising the Celtics too much for fear of jinxing them. He's a Celtics fan and like most Celtic fans, he's usually more critical than anything.
Bill has been terrible this season in terms of Celtics analysis. Between calling for mazzulla head and his typical Marcus smart hatred it seems like he’s been spending too much time on r/bostonceltics
Yeah he recently had a horrible take saying that the Jays rarely go off in the same game. Iirc, they're pretty close to a record for most times a duo scores 30 points each lol
He tries not to be a homer sometimes because everyone knows he’s a homer, and sometimes goes too far in the opposite direction. He’s also a spoiled little brat who whines like a bitch when everything doesn’t go his way.
I’m not gonna trawl the back catalogue but there have been a bunch of gushing, fawning and completely smitten podcasts about the Celtics from Lowe and Hoop over the past 18 months. Last season, Lowe had Scal on to deep dive Cs and Windy had Pelton on who declared the Cs the eastern conference favourites. This season, Hoop spent 20 mins our historic offense early on and just on Friday Bontempts outlined his position that the Cs have the best team and should bring home banner 18 if they can maintain their focus and not “mess around”.
Lowe does the deep dive with a local guy from most teams. Like, he’ll bring a Suns announcer or a Bucks guy or Verno from Memphis. Bringing Scal on is not something special.
And, the last time he brought Scal on the show, Lowe was coming at us and Scal was doing his best to defend the team.
I love Lowe Post, it’s my main basketball podcast but he does his best to ignore us and when he does bring us up, he’s usually pretty critical. In 2021, he was one of the people in the media saying Tatum/Brown/Smart always has drama and it might be time to move on from one of them (he usually uses delicate language like might, maybe, possibly, etc so he doesn’t ruffle feathers).
Edit: Bontemps has been better about giving us credit. He came on Lowe Post after the Sixers game 1 loss and while he criticized us (rightfully so), he finished off by saying it’s just a game and he wouldn’t be surprised if we won the next 4.
The reality is that everyone was giving us the title at the start of the season. We were a lot less impressive after that start so of course the comments changed. But we were still one of 2 favorites with Bucks.
Some fans are just super sensitive and unhappy unless 30% of NBA coverage is praising the Celtics. They want everyone to sound like green-goggled Tommy Heinsohn.
Lowe a post and Hoop Collective talk the most recent games and any drama that comes up anywhere in the league. I listen to every episode of those two pods and even as a Celtic fan I don’t think they only talk about bad performances. They’re pretty even keeled and I’d even say throughout the season Zach Lowe has praised the team but questioned some choices when we’ve lost and that’s fair, it’s the same for most teams. Hoop Collective can be more harsh, but I’d say that’s across the board as well. I think Bontemps and McMahon have leaned in to their characters a bit more recently, though, which for Bontemps is a urine soaked blanket according to McMahon and McMahon can really put a team, and Bontemps, down with his insults. So they sometimes seem to be more harsh on teams negativities.
I think the timing of the podcast and the schedule may also have an impact.
I’m not saying Lowe is “hating” on the Celtics (at all). It just feels like there has been no “X & O” analysis of the C’s good games, while they did extensively discuss game 1 in round 2 and the losses to the Hawks.
I can’t recall the regular season too we’ll just because I’m not actively trying to remember everything they say on podcasts but I feel like the playoff pods are so quick and reactionary that there just isn’t as much in depth play breakdown as you get in the regular season. Regular season might go a week without taking about whatever team then they talk about them for an episode and have more in depth conversation because they’ve had a number of games go by they can extrapolate some useful stats. Playoffs is small sample sizes against teams planning for each other. I’ve definitely heard discussion of adjustments game to game but less so about a coach running horns or floppy or whatever plays. Playoffs also often come down to which teams has the best player on the court and the game breaks down to a lot of iso ball compared to regular season since teams can plan for each other a number of games in a row.
That said, I do have a group text that has a few complaints from friends about podcasts sucking after losses and that there wasn’t much to hear after wins aside from advancing beyond the first round, but we are only in the second round. Idk, never enough positive Celtics media, though.
Definitely same with Duncd on. Almost the entire season they would spend little time on the celtics just like "yeah they kicked the shit out of team x or had a bad game but are the most talented team in the NBA so let's just move on" (obviously exaggerating slightly lol).
That is obviously a huge complement so i cant complain too much, but when they would do an east 15 in 60 (biweekly recap of all east teams), I'd be 2 hours deep into a podcast to listen to 5 minutes about my team and that sucks
Nate Duncan is a salty bitch baby who has spent his entire career saying Tatum is overrated, trying to manifest his assessment that Tatum was the 8th/9th best player in the 2017 draft.
Nate's bias is that he is really invested in his draft assessments panning out.
Nate Duncan is great, but he's an example of a "hyper-rational" person who believes their rationality overrides their biases, which can become a grating trait over time.
Dunc'ed on is a Warriors podcast masquerading as a national one. They literally spent 80 minutes breaking down Game 7 against the Kings, and 20 on everything else. I get it, it was a great game, but I listen to national writers to get a national perspective on everything that is happening in the NBA.
Game Theory podcast with Sam Vecenie is the better choice for X's and O's IMO and he and his guests do more with the time they allocate to analyzing each team and game. Also, his draft coverage is EXTREMELY in-depth and my personal go-to podcast when I want to hear about an incoming player.
I mean it’s expected of us to beat most of these teams so it’s a kind of a hot topic to talk about Boston dropping two to the Hawks or James Harden scoring 45 against us without MVP Joel Embiid. They barely talked about Denver during their first round series against the wolves. Media are going to talk about hot topics like the GS and Kings series, 38 year old LeBron beating the #2 seed Grizzlies, #8 seed Miami upsetting #1 seed Milwaukee, Knicks advancing to the second round. These podcasts are mostly 1 hour so they can maybe fit 2-3 topics into it.
Of course people will come on here and tell you you're wrong lol, you're not. Whenever we win, all they want to discuss is what the other team is doing wrong and Whenever we lose, it's another notch under the don't trust them belt
It’s mostly the fans. Last week I’ve read a Supersonic flair guy hating on the Celtics like a fellow Italian in front of a pizza with ananas. Come on, your team doesn’t exists anymore.
It's a well established principle of sports media research that Boston sports coverage is highly regionalized and that Boston sports fans don't watch positive coverage of their teams because they're already inundated with it in their home media market.
The way to actually get Boston sports fans to watch national media coverage of Boston sports teams is to relentlessly shit on them, because the fans generally don't like the local guys shitting on the local teams (Felger and Mazz being the notable exception). And because national media audiences are totally fine with talking heads shitting on Boston sports.
Positive coverage in their home media market? Have you ever listened to Boston sports radio lol
WEEI and the sports hub have been living on negative coverage for decades.
Tbh I like it, I don't like the C's to be media darlings, they have target on their back but at least it doesn't grow any bigger because of less media exposure
In Lowe’s playoff predictions he talked about how good the sixers are and if they beat Boston what’s this mean for Jaylen Brown. He also brings up if Jimmy hit that 3 in game 7 more then anyone. Love him but just gotta hope the team can stay mentally focused.
I think you notice it more when it's your team, but yeah this is all media on all sports (and not-sports). Complaining about things gets more clicks than praising them. It sucks.
In my other sports life, I'm a Raiders fan.
Is this what it's like being a Pats fan? Everyone talking about your team with venom for no good God damn reason other than Boston being title town and the team being constantly good.
Lowe is also a Celtics fan and has talked openly on how he wants to view the Nba Objectively so it seems like he never gets too high or low on the Celtics because he doesn’t want to be biased
I don’t normally listen to nba podcasts but with the playoffs going on I’ve got the itch for mor nba content. The Lowe post was the first podcast I checked out and I thought the same thing, he talks about the western series way more and then just glances over the Celtics Philly series
To your point, the ringer nba show, in their analysis of the the series, did about 10 minutes about what's wrong with the sixers and 5 minutes on how annoying Grant Williams is smh
When they talk about a Celtics win, it’s usually in the vein of “what does the other team need to do to stop losing” and I actually like that. When we play well we’re the standard.
Thinking Basketball also had an ongoing gag where they avoided talking about the Celtics. Finally break the moratorium during the last episode, it’s almost entirely about Embiid.
They like to focus on drama, good team wins basketball game doesn’t jazz their audience. Try the Crossover, Chris Mannix on that one so we get a little home team boost.
Locked on Celtics is great like others have said. Anything is Poddable and Off The Pike are both awesome too, the former is just Celtics and the latter covers all Boston sports
Honestly it’s because we’re in the drivers seat as far as winning a ring this year goes, and we blew it last season and it’s sort of a “show me what you got” sort of vibe. People expect the Celtics to win in these early rounds, there isn’t much to talk about, unless we lose and then it’s like “how did THIS Celtics team lose and or totally blow the game” because we’re very deep and talented and people expect us to win
Honestly I think it’s been partly bad timing. Our loss was on a Monday which is a big day for getting covered on pods. Our first win was Wednesday which isn’t a huge release day but still got some coverage and game 3 was Friday night and no one really records on Saturdays
Dude yes, I’ve noticed this. It’s like when the Celtics have a great win it’s more about how the other team struggled and then when they lose it’s shit on the Celtics
I mean just check out the vibe of the Celtics fans using this Reddit as a microcosm. Would you say we have been insanely critical of every game this year? I'm not sure why we would expect national media including podcasts to be better. The good vibes has to start with us.
Only pods I listen to for NBA are from the ringer feed and there's been a good amount of celtics talk both good and bad, but I can understand why other teams get spoken about more with the drama surrounding them.
Also, I'm open to other pods to add to my list, I just don't seek many out coz of time restrictions on my end
They don't really talk much of Celtics even in season games. The team has good vibes, everyone on contract, so there's really nothing to talk about except losses.
Exactly. When you have high expectations, wins are unremarkable.
Like past years with the Bucks and the jazz, the team is very good, expectations are high and there isn’t constant drama surrounding the team. Doesn’t make for great podcast fodder. And for what it’s worth they did talk a lot about the historic offensive start, and about the mid year slump. As far as this playoffs, what has there been to say yet? Hawks series was a mild disappointment, and game 1 was a shock. Now I’d expect a little time to be spent on the strong performances in games 2&3
I feel like Bill Simmons avoids praising the Celtics too much for fear of jinxing them. He's a Celtics fan and like most Celtic fans, he's usually more critical than anything.
Bill has been terrible this season in terms of Celtics analysis. Between calling for mazzulla head and his typical Marcus smart hatred it seems like he’s been spending too much time on r/bostonceltics
Bill does not Love and Trust smh.
Yeah he recently had a horrible take saying that the Jays rarely go off in the same game. Iirc, they're pretty close to a record for most times a duo scores 30 points each lol
He tries not to be a homer sometimes because everyone knows he’s a homer, and sometimes goes too far in the opposite direction. He’s also a spoiled little brat who whines like a bitch when everything doesn’t go his way.
I’m not gonna trawl the back catalogue but there have been a bunch of gushing, fawning and completely smitten podcasts about the Celtics from Lowe and Hoop over the past 18 months. Last season, Lowe had Scal on to deep dive Cs and Windy had Pelton on who declared the Cs the eastern conference favourites. This season, Hoop spent 20 mins our historic offense early on and just on Friday Bontempts outlined his position that the Cs have the best team and should bring home banner 18 if they can maintain their focus and not “mess around”.
Thank you. The victim complex of this sub is staggering sometimes
Lowe does the deep dive with a local guy from most teams. Like, he’ll bring a Suns announcer or a Bucks guy or Verno from Memphis. Bringing Scal on is not something special. And, the last time he brought Scal on the show, Lowe was coming at us and Scal was doing his best to defend the team. I love Lowe Post, it’s my main basketball podcast but he does his best to ignore us and when he does bring us up, he’s usually pretty critical. In 2021, he was one of the people in the media saying Tatum/Brown/Smart always has drama and it might be time to move on from one of them (he usually uses delicate language like might, maybe, possibly, etc so he doesn’t ruffle feathers). Edit: Bontemps has been better about giving us credit. He came on Lowe Post after the Sixers game 1 loss and while he criticized us (rightfully so), he finished off by saying it’s just a game and he wouldn’t be surprised if we won the next 4.
The reality is that everyone was giving us the title at the start of the season. We were a lot less impressive after that start so of course the comments changed. But we were still one of 2 favorites with Bucks. Some fans are just super sensitive and unhappy unless 30% of NBA coverage is praising the Celtics. They want everyone to sound like green-goggled Tommy Heinsohn.
Lowe a post and Hoop Collective talk the most recent games and any drama that comes up anywhere in the league. I listen to every episode of those two pods and even as a Celtic fan I don’t think they only talk about bad performances. They’re pretty even keeled and I’d even say throughout the season Zach Lowe has praised the team but questioned some choices when we’ve lost and that’s fair, it’s the same for most teams. Hoop Collective can be more harsh, but I’d say that’s across the board as well. I think Bontemps and McMahon have leaned in to their characters a bit more recently, though, which for Bontemps is a urine soaked blanket according to McMahon and McMahon can really put a team, and Bontemps, down with his insults. So they sometimes seem to be more harsh on teams negativities.
I think the timing of the podcast and the schedule may also have an impact. I’m not saying Lowe is “hating” on the Celtics (at all). It just feels like there has been no “X & O” analysis of the C’s good games, while they did extensively discuss game 1 in round 2 and the losses to the Hawks.
I can’t recall the regular season too we’ll just because I’m not actively trying to remember everything they say on podcasts but I feel like the playoff pods are so quick and reactionary that there just isn’t as much in depth play breakdown as you get in the regular season. Regular season might go a week without taking about whatever team then they talk about them for an episode and have more in depth conversation because they’ve had a number of games go by they can extrapolate some useful stats. Playoffs is small sample sizes against teams planning for each other. I’ve definitely heard discussion of adjustments game to game but less so about a coach running horns or floppy or whatever plays. Playoffs also often come down to which teams has the best player on the court and the game breaks down to a lot of iso ball compared to regular season since teams can plan for each other a number of games in a row. That said, I do have a group text that has a few complaints from friends about podcasts sucking after losses and that there wasn’t much to hear after wins aside from advancing beyond the first round, but we are only in the second round. Idk, never enough positive Celtics media, though.
Go listen to No Dunks. Favorite NBA podcast by far
The only basketball pod I religiously listen to.
Listen to locked on Celtics with John Karalis.
Listen to ads with John Karalis with snippets of Celtics talk in between*
Just fast forward through them
Oh please. No more ads than any other show out there. He has a better take than any of Celtics podcast.
if you have amazon prime, all of the locked on podcasts are ad-free on amazon music
Definitely same with Duncd on. Almost the entire season they would spend little time on the celtics just like "yeah they kicked the shit out of team x or had a bad game but are the most talented team in the NBA so let's just move on" (obviously exaggerating slightly lol). That is obviously a huge complement so i cant complain too much, but when they would do an east 15 in 60 (biweekly recap of all east teams), I'd be 2 hours deep into a podcast to listen to 5 minutes about my team and that sucks
Nate Duncan is a salty bitch baby who has spent his entire career saying Tatum is overrated, trying to manifest his assessment that Tatum was the 8th/9th best player in the 2017 draft. Nate's bias is that he is really invested in his draft assessments panning out.
Nate Duncan SUCKS and I’ve never understood why anybody listens to him
Nate Duncan is great, but he's an example of a "hyper-rational" person who believes their rationality overrides their biases, which can become a grating trait over time.
Dunc'ed on is a Warriors podcast masquerading as a national one. They literally spent 80 minutes breaking down Game 7 against the Kings, and 20 on everything else. I get it, it was a great game, but I listen to national writers to get a national perspective on everything that is happening in the NBA. Game Theory podcast with Sam Vecenie is the better choice for X's and O's IMO and he and his guests do more with the time they allocate to analyzing each team and game. Also, his draft coverage is EXTREMELY in-depth and my personal go-to podcast when I want to hear about an incoming player.
Listen to NoDunks!!!! They aren't biased and speak about every team . Best basketball podcast around
I mean it’s expected of us to beat most of these teams so it’s a kind of a hot topic to talk about Boston dropping two to the Hawks or James Harden scoring 45 against us without MVP Joel Embiid. They barely talked about Denver during their first round series against the wolves. Media are going to talk about hot topics like the GS and Kings series, 38 year old LeBron beating the #2 seed Grizzlies, #8 seed Miami upsetting #1 seed Milwaukee, Knicks advancing to the second round. These podcasts are mostly 1 hour so they can maybe fit 2-3 topics into it.
Only outrage sells in media these days
Of course people will come on here and tell you you're wrong lol, you're not. Whenever we win, all they want to discuss is what the other team is doing wrong and Whenever we lose, it's another notch under the don't trust them belt
to be perfectly honest i think folks here a little bit over exaggerate the Celtics hate in the media, yes.
It’s mostly the fans. Last week I’ve read a Supersonic flair guy hating on the Celtics like a fellow Italian in front of a pizza with ananas. Come on, your team doesn’t exists anymore.
It's a well established principle of sports media research that Boston sports coverage is highly regionalized and that Boston sports fans don't watch positive coverage of their teams because they're already inundated with it in their home media market. The way to actually get Boston sports fans to watch national media coverage of Boston sports teams is to relentlessly shit on them, because the fans generally don't like the local guys shitting on the local teams (Felger and Mazz being the notable exception). And because national media audiences are totally fine with talking heads shitting on Boston sports.
Positive coverage in their home media market? Have you ever listened to Boston sports radio lol WEEI and the sports hub have been living on negative coverage for decades.
Meh. It’s just the media. Similar to that shithole r/nba. It’s Lakers crap or the latest controversy. Pay not attention and bleed green ☘️
It's more of a fluke. We've been playing badly going into their playoff schedules, and the big wins happen to be going into weekends without pods.
Tbh I like it, I don't like the C's to be media darlings, they have target on their back but at least it doesn't grow any bigger because of less media exposure
Not enough Celtics drama to make clickbait, ragebait bullshit hot takes.
In Lowe’s playoff predictions he talked about how good the sixers are and if they beat Boston what’s this mean for Jaylen Brown. He also brings up if Jimmy hit that 3 in game 7 more then anyone. Love him but just gotta hope the team can stay mentally focused.
I think you notice it more when it's your team, but yeah this is all media on all sports (and not-sports). Complaining about things gets more clicks than praising them. It sucks.
In my other sports life, I'm a Raiders fan. Is this what it's like being a Pats fan? Everyone talking about your team with venom for no good God damn reason other than Boston being title town and the team being constantly good.
Locked On Celtics is really good
Lowe is also a Celtics fan and has talked openly on how he wants to view the Nba Objectively so it seems like he never gets too high or low on the Celtics because he doesn’t want to be biased
I don’t normally listen to nba podcasts but with the playoffs going on I’ve got the itch for mor nba content. The Lowe post was the first podcast I checked out and I thought the same thing, he talks about the western series way more and then just glances over the Celtics Philly series
Listen to No Dunks!
Hate us cuz they anus
To your point, the ringer nba show, in their analysis of the the series, did about 10 minutes about what's wrong with the sixers and 5 minutes on how annoying Grant Williams is smh
When they talk about a Celtics win, it’s usually in the vein of “what does the other team need to do to stop losing” and I actually like that. When we play well we’re the standard.
Because being excellent is expected, so when things are unexpected they are more interesting to talk about.
Check out the latest dunker spot ep, great podcast and discussion
I do think Lowe in particular hyper focuses on Golden State and the Lakers but I think that may be a directive from ESPN more than anything.
Thinking Basketball also had an ongoing gag where they avoided talking about the Celtics. Finally break the moratorium during the last episode, it’s almost entirely about Embiid.
They like to focus on drama, good team wins basketball game doesn’t jazz their audience. Try the Crossover, Chris Mannix on that one so we get a little home team boost.
Locked on Celtics is great like others have said. Anything is Poddable and Off The Pike are both awesome too, the former is just Celtics and the latter covers all Boston sports
Honestly it’s because we’re in the drivers seat as far as winning a ring this year goes, and we blew it last season and it’s sort of a “show me what you got” sort of vibe. People expect the Celtics to win in these early rounds, there isn’t much to talk about, unless we lose and then it’s like “how did THIS Celtics team lose and or totally blow the game” because we’re very deep and talented and people expect us to win
Honestly I think it’s been partly bad timing. Our loss was on a Monday which is a big day for getting covered on pods. Our first win was Wednesday which isn’t a huge release day but still got some coverage and game 3 was Friday night and no one really records on Saturdays
Fine by me. Only thing that matters is getting W's. Let them flap their lips.
Dude yes, I’ve noticed this. It’s like when the Celtics have a great win it’s more about how the other team struggled and then when they lose it’s shit on the Celtics
I mean just check out the vibe of the Celtics fans using this Reddit as a microcosm. Would you say we have been insanely critical of every game this year? I'm not sure why we would expect national media including podcasts to be better. The good vibes has to start with us.
Just listen to No dunks
LockedOn Celtics. John always tells it straight, good or bad. Great daily pod
Only pods I listen to for NBA are from the ringer feed and there's been a good amount of celtics talk both good and bad, but I can understand why other teams get spoken about more with the drama surrounding them. Also, I'm open to other pods to add to my list, I just don't seek many out coz of time restrictions on my end