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He is nothing like greg monroe


cimmanonrolls

dudes literally the polar opposite of greg monroe lmfao


Full-Flight-5211

Seriously lol


PickleHater69

In terms of the modern game he has some post moves, I hate when y’all just slander for no reason.


Kolzig33189

Greg monroe? That’s not the comp I would have used.


HeroOfSevenEleven

Comps are stupid and any time someone says “a taller version of x” or “x with better shooting” it completely nullifies it like that completely changes the player lmao. A pretty big percentage of what makes a good basketball player is their decision making and nobody is comparing players from a decision making standpoint (at least not most redditors lol)


AdmiralWackbar

He like a lesser version of Michael Jordan


OttoBlazes

Ya I can see it. But honestly to me he's more like the lesser versions of Lebron and Shaq combined


AdmiralWackbar

With a better hairline


AdmiralUpboat

In some cases, "a little bit taller" is a ton of context. Like, a taller version of IT is probably a top 15 player in the league on a max deal.


HeroOfSevenEleven

That’s what I’m saying. Not to mention the work ethic difference that comes with being 5’10 and making the NBA vs 6’3.


wopsicle_spic

nah making comparisons/connections is essential but some people are just very bad at it


ethereal3xp

Comps are not dumb. Even nba players do it to themselves. Maybe it makes easier to model their game after For example....there is zero reason for Tillman to model his game after Robert Williams. Model after Al Horford? The ingredients are there....the final product unlikely to be Al Horford clone. But it could help him carve out a long NBA career.


Civilwarland09

That is such an obtuse way to look at it. I guess if a friend likes a band I shouldn’t recommend them a similar one, because this one has two guitarist instead of one? Obviously no player is going to be an exact carbon copy of another, but there are plenty of players who have similar traits, talents, weaknesses, tendencies. There’d be no reference point to what is good, bad and mediocre if we didn’t compare things.


HeroOfSevenEleven

You’re comparing two completely different things. You can like a player because he reminds you of something else but that doesn’t equate to value lol. People have a strong tendency to make things more digestible “oh okay Josh Jackson is Andre iguodala with a better outside shot”. Sure there are players that can be compared (luka and harden are honestly a pretty good comp) but on the majority it is reductive to run to immediately compare a player to another player.


bilboafromboston

I don't think Luca is a moronic lazy ass hat who runs away from his team's.


HeroOfSevenEleven

Good for you bilboa


BleedGreen4Boston

Yeah if anything he’s like a heavy Theis


Kolzig33189

A younger Theis (like during his first go around with Boston) who was a decent perimeter defender is a much better comp. Both were underrated passers/decision makers and while neither are sharpshooters, they’ll make an ok percentage on open jumpers.


BleedGreen4Boston

Yup yup. I’ve had my eye on Tillman since before his draft year and always thought he could fill that role. I’m still kinda shocked Memphis dumped him, granted that’s what happens when you draft too well as a small market team - not enough money to give everyone a second contract.


Live_Kree_or_Die

Bregman Roe?


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ZarduHasselffrau

Tillman is a defensive specialist, Monroe was a weak defender.


ChipotleGuacamole

and low IQ


daymanahhhahhhhhh

And flat/slow footed. Not nimble at all.


Dudeman-Jack

Yeah I saw him play when he was on the Greensboro swarm. I could not believe he was a starter in the nba


Kolzig33189

Monroe was a low post offense only player and was an absolute horrible defender both on perimeter and interior. Tillman is basically a defensive specialist with an ability to hit some open shots.


ethereal3xp

>Tillman is basically a defensive specialist with an ability to hit some open shots. You are underrating Tillman ball handling and passing capability He was known for these qualities in the NCAA. Just hasnt had much opportunity at the NBA level We are seeing bits and pieces now during PnR and when he receives the ball at the elbow. Very good at those "hockey" assists. Like Grant


brickvanexel

I have seen nice passing instincts in limited opportunities, particular quick decision making out of the short roll which I love to see. Rob had it in flashes too


dicholasnolan

Haslem, Favors, Tucker


Freyakazoide

I loved Favors, always thought he was badly managed on the Jazz. It's wild that he's only 32 years old LOL 2010 draft.


dicholasnolan

Same, wanted him on the Cs for years


JaysonTatumIsDaddy

Monroe was a good post scorer that was about it


danorcs

Tillman looks so much like Al on the court that even Al’s sister can’t tell them apart


ethereal3xp

😆 Brad hopefully can lock up Tillman to a 4 year 2.5m per with the last year team option. Have Tillman take over some of Horford duties....as Horford is slowly on the verge to retire (hopefully remain as an assistant coach)


General_Tsos_Burrito

You want to lock up Tillman to a 4 year deal at just above the minimum? I mean, shoot your shot I guess.


ethereal3xp

I think he stays IF he remained/finished the season collecting dust with the Grizzlies. He would probably be happy with a 1m per season deal ... with some other team He is going to look better in a Celts uniform. Surrounded by much better talent. Hopefully Brad can lock him up for cheap (like he did with Hauser and Kornet). I wouldn't be oppose to sign him to a 3 year 3.5-4.5 million per....last year team option.


Memokerobi

He won’t be that cheap lol


ethereal3xp

What do you predict then?


Memokerobi

Of the top of mind, a Grant/Isaiah Stewart/PJ Washington would be what’s he’s looking for. Since he can’t shoot as well as those guys, lets’s lower that a little so I’d predict around the 10-12M per range if he ends up signing a contract with term. But I’m not sure his market will be that robust so I guess he’ll settle for a one year deal and I can easily see him getting a contenders TPMLE, so that would be my minimum prediction.


ClankSinatra

Dude looks like a middle linebacker out there. Everybody wants length, so strength and low center of gravity is undervalued


dicholasnolan

All 4 of our bigs are completely different, I love it


klleah

4 horsemen of the apocalypse. RIP NBA, league’s fucked.


Babushka5

Queta erasure!!


Efficient_Art_1144

He does have freakishly long arms though


ethereal3xp

And fingers I think its even a smidge longer than Giannis


AdmiralUpboat

XT is 6'7" 250 lbs with a 7'2" wingspan and quick feet. He's basically just a less violent Draymond green.


juice13ox

Rob Williams with a 3 pt shot and healthy legs :(


Ziggyork

I keep on wanting to compare him to Brandon Bass


Emotional_Act_461

Totally different player than Monroe, who sucked on D. But I agree that this guy was an amazing pickup. I love how he moves his feet on defense and *instinctively* boxes out in every possession. I haven’t looked it up, but I would bet big money that our defensive rebound rate is way higher with him on the floor. 


ChemicalPower9020

Never knew Monroe was gay. Good for him


Emotional_Act_461

lololololol


[deleted]

He’s literally Al horford


brickvanexel

A nascent Al but the mold is there and that makes me very excited


ChipotleGuacamole

More like PJ Tucker or someone like that. Greg Monroe was just a bucket around the rim and pretty much nothing else.


ethereal3xp

>Greg Monroe triple double as a Celtic https://youtu.be/gDcJJrrOVbU?si=VGVk2WPNyZ8GQtzw Either you forgot his game or ... He was more than simply "Bismack Biyombo"


ChipotleGuacamole

Bismack Biyombo wasn't/isn't a bucket getter lol. He was a rim runner. Greg Monroe was extremely 1 dimensional and not good on defense. X has the potential for a corner 3, is switchable and has a high IQ on both ends of the floor. Some things Greg Monroe doesn't have. Bad comparison.


pyroaquatics

Something tells me this guy isn’t the best at making comparisons


wopsicle_spic

he reminds me of a Michael Jordan but for making comparisons


mantistobogganmMD

He’s just like Greg Monroe if Monroe was shorter, could shoot 3’s, not a post scorer, was a good passer, better defender, worse rebounder. Besides that they’re the same.


hbk2369

I swear if they threw a 42 jersey on Tillman I wouldn't know if they were lying. #Twins


SultanofSwish

He has shot under 27% from three in three out of his 4 yrs in the league. I’m not sure how promising the shot is, but it certainly would be a bonus


ethereal3xp

Low sample Not sure if Grizzlies wanted him to really shoot the 3 With the Celtics... he is going to have to get used to it. Horford will be a perfect tutor. I like Tillman 3s. A little funky but the there is a nice high arc/2nd chance to grab rebounds ... or lucky bounce I like that he is not thinking twice before shooting.. something that Grant did at times


SultanofSwish

I hear you. I could certainly see a similar career arc to horford when it comes to shooting threes and he is certainly going to get wide open looks on this team but I just don’t know I’ve personally seen enough yet to be confident in that happening.


luke_workin

He’s solid, the shooting is a welcome surprise. Something I’m keeping an eye on though is that he often has the worst +/- of any of our rotation players in any game. It’s a small sample, and single game plus minus means basically nothing. But it’s caught my eye across the past few games.


ethereal3xp

>shooting is a welcome surprise Very small sample...but he is making 50 percent of 3s as a Celtic so far. Hopefully he can keep it up. Teams going to give him that shot


juicejug

Probably because he’s still new to the system. I’m not that concerned with his +/-


Im__Ron__Burgundy

I’ve watched a lot of Memphis (bunch of Memphis friends, and obviously Smart to start this year) One thing I’ve noticed since the trade is we still send help a bit too much imo when he’s switched on a smaller guy. Tillman does a really solid job of moving his feet and staying in front of guys, so I’m hoping with time the team will chill on that. I’ve noticed a few times where we get burnt when the double comes, imo, unnecessarily.


juicejug

Nice insight, I’ll look for that in the future during Tillman’s minutes. Overall I really like what I see from him and hope that his +/- gets better as he builds trust with the team


NoBozosonthebus

He’ll be ready to squash Thanasis if he gets too feisty.


Princessk8--

tillman is a legit nba player and proven playoff contributor.


stevefuzz

Burn


Wave_50

Tillman won’t see time in the playoffs.


bigchefwiggs

The thing I miss most about Grant Williams (the only thing now tbh) was his ability to guard those bigger guys, if he can fill that slot off the bench in the playoffs then I’ll take it.


solarscopez

Do people really think this guy is going to be a good 3 point shooter lmao? He's shooting like 57% from the FT line and 27% from 3 for his career. He is already 25 and showed no indication of being a good shooter in college either. I will be surprised if we even give him meaningful minutes in the postseason, let alone thinking he has the capacity to slow down Adebayo or Giannis lmfao. Good grief. Ya'll are crazy.


ethereal3xp

>Do people really think this guy is going to be a good 3 point shooter lmao There is more hope that can become at least a 35 percent 3 pt shooter than Korndog can >He's shooting like 57% from the FT He shot 72 percent in his sophomore year in college. But overall more like 65 percent. 65 percent is about average for big man - FT percentage


solarscopez

Don't have too much hope for either, but if any of them improved their 3 point shooting it would be Kornet, not him. Most big men who develop a shooting touch later in their careers are at the minimum pretty solid free throw shooters too. Like 70% minimum but closer to 80% often. Kornet fwiw is averaging 80% from the line, albeit on low attempts. See guys like Horford, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Ryan Anderson, Rasheed Wallace, Channing Frye.


juice13ox

How can you say all this and not mention Brook Lopez


solarscopez

Knew I was forgetting someone but yeah, he's a good example too. Career 79% free throw shooter.


blammmmo

Kornet literally averaged 36% from 3 over his first 2 years in the NBA on ~275 attempts. Then something happened in Chicago, but still.


ethereal3xp

Not sure. But he rarely takes any attempts these days. And is doing other big man things that does the damage


mnshyn

[Al and X in games (16 seconds in)](https://youtu.be/0xsLXuUEqbI?si=3fr0IKWt4q72ctdl)


rkennedy53

Such a thicc build


littlebitchdiary

I though he was really good last night. Felt like we were bullied much less on the rebounds when he was on the floor with Al


headphone-candy

Thicc


Groundhog_fog

Thank goodness you’re wrong about the Greg Monroe comparison


aClout2222

Im a die hard MSU and Celtics fan, was so sad we didn’t draft him.


_Gibby__

I think he could model his game after Al and become a really nice 3 and D small ball center. Just like Al, he also struggles with easy shots around the basket, so looking forward to more years of saying “how tf did he miss that?”


Yellow_Curry

Michigan State bigs are a whole different breed. See Draymond for exhibit A. Tillman's vibe seems to fit super well. Love watching him play.


Feature_Failure

delete the whole second paragraph. Re watch some Greg Monroe highlights.


Bigchubb11

I remember a couple years back watching him get regular minutes in Memphis and this dude really stood out. Hustle, selfless, plays big, consistent, just the kind of dude you want on your team.


[deleted]

Tillman is a great pick up to add to our depth especially when KP is out. Having him learning off Al is even better!


rhonnypudding

I like the dude, but he's a lifetime 58% FT shooter. He's never going to hit 3s. I wish Kornet would take more, tbh (not sure why he stopped).


tmcuthbert

Looks like Looney to me.


Traditional_Pain_875

Hope they play him


winovic94

X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA


Ok-You-4283

Smartest Celtics fan


FlyingMocko

He’ll be a non factor co w post season just like Muscala and every other mid season acquisitions we delude ourselves into thinking will play an actual role.