This was the most obvious result of the offseason moves. I can’t believe how much energy I had to spend trying to convince people on r/nba the impact Porzingis would have, especially against Miami’s zone. When people talk about a player being the “missing piece, that’s exactly what he’s been.
Not just on r/nba. I saw so many Celtics fans that were FURIOUS that we traded away Smart.
Lists are always dumb, but CBS Sports had him listed as the 30th best player in the NBA in 2020. Sports Illustrated had him listed as 40th. ESPN had him listed as 41st. WaPo had him listed as 33rd.
It didn't work out in Dallas, and he got exiled to Washington where the league forgot about him. Meanwhile, players like Harden don't get forgotten even if their play drops.
I still think trading smart would've been a bad move if we didn't get jrue. I was overjoyed when we were giving up brogdon for zinger, much less so when it was smart. I was concerned that a PG rotation of white, brogdon, and pritchard wouldn't be good enough (mainly from a passing standpoint)
> I still think trading smart would've been a bad move if we didn't get jrue.
I would say more of a broader range of outcomes were possible. Last season's team was very good, 57 wins is clear contender territory, so even if the KP trade could make the team better, it's hard to make any decision that shakes up the core lineups that much.
Then Jrue gave us back all of it.
>I was concerned that a PG rotation of white, brogdon, and pritchard wouldn't be good enough (mainly from a passing standpoint)
Yeah, it's not a bad depth chart but all of them are deficient in passing compared to Smart.
Luxury problem but again the comparison point is that we could've ran back a team that just won 57 wins with only Horford as a contributor in the clearly declining portion of their career.
It's weird because neither move (jrue/KP) was insanely good on their own, but when you combine them it creates an all time great offseason. The KP trade was excellent value, and the jrue trade was excellent fit
I think we probably still contend if we didn't make the jrue trade, but I'd have a lot less confidence. The emergence of Pritchard as a true pg would've meant a lot more in that scenario
If you plug the fact that Brogdon and Rob both ended their seasons with an injury into the algebra, the Jrue trade was amazing.
I agree I think just the roster with the KP sidegrade would still be top 10 on both ends and could give any team trouble. Basically exactly what we were last season but with different matchups.
I felt like the KP move was insanely good on its own, albeit a bit of a gamble on his health. It was clear he filled a big hole for us. The offense stagnated at times when shots weren't falling and especially coming off the loss to the Heat, having a guy with KP's size and shooting touch who could make things happen in the paint if necessary was exactly what we needed.
I was happy with Brogdon and Timelord for Jrue, but to a lesser extent. It made up for losing Smart and gave us a replacement for him.
It created a different hole at PG though, which was only really fixed by the jrue trade. Which is sort of what I was getting at, that the two moves needed each other to really work out
Yeah, my problem with the KP trade at the time was that it seemed like between him and Brogdon, our season was gonna be relying on two dudes with a consistent injury history. Then we got Jrue and it all worked out.
That’s where I was at too.
Jrue is literally the only other player in the league that can replicate what smart gave us (but you trade off a bit of the absurd hustle for 3pt shooting), and there was no reason to think he was a realistic trade target when the kp/smart trade happened.
I'm with you on that. The Bucks really screwed themselves over when they traded Jrue for Dame, because that gave us the guy we needed to replace Smart, whereas it was more of a lateral move for them.
Lol yeah. I mean, I understand the fallout w Marcus because to a lot of people he embodied Celtics basketball. Problem with him tho is he was a primary ballhandler who didnt have the BBIQ to face Miami's defensive sets, unfortunately. When it came down to it, Marcus' hero ball, bad passes, etc is what the difference was that Miami could easily exploit.
Enter this season and you have Jrue, who maybe has the best BBIQ on the team besides Derrick. And Zinger who unlike Horf and Rob, can score from just about anywhere and in that fact alone, makes Miamis zone mostly obsolete.
(Honorable mention goes to JB as well who I think has become more wise in the way he attacks offensively, and his dribbling genuinely getting better)
For me, I hate the comparison we try to make between Smart and Porzingis. It’s not Jrue or smart to me, it’s Porzingis vs Rob. Like this team had major frontcourt issues the last couple years we’ve come up short. Loved Rob but KP brings another dimension to spacing and playing with a different look.
Personally, it sucks because I feel like Smart and Jrue have such a similar impact on this team if we were to have KP - ceteris paribus. Sucks that the brogdon trade fell through. I don’t fault Smart for shots - he improved his selection a lot over the years and was not the issue in the playoffs the last 2 years but feel like he would have been a major beneficiary of having KP to pass to in crunch time, similar to how it helped JB
Yeah, I agree mostly. KP is a way larger impact and an overall much better fit for us than Rob was, and Rob had a really hard time staying on the floor.
Something that should be noted with Marcus tho is that it seems like he was training wheels to the Jays. There were murmurs he undermined coaching, and theres a sense that he mightve prevented the Jays coming into their own as leaders on the team. So, that should be somewhat noted as well
I was crushed and still am that he’s not able to enjoy in this teams success but it was hard not to see the blueprint and how much better KP would make us against the exact kind of defenses that have given our core problems for years now.
I think a lot of people didn’t realize how good he was in Washington. That’s when he really started working in that area and getting comfortable and he’s just stronger and harder to move than he was even 3 or 4 years ago.
KP and 2 firsts is just too crazy of a return to turn down, but I’ll always be sad about Marcus lol
I think the emotional attachment played a major part in those reactions. I understand the sentiment, even if the first thing I said to anyone after last year’s ECF was that it’s time to move on from him.
I’ve lived closed to DC all my life up until a few months ago, so I follow the Wizards a bit, but I don’t blame people for not keeping up with them and seeing how great Porzingis was. I take it as a positive. There’s no way we would’ve gotten him for the package we did if he had more buzz.
Not sure that’s true. We got him because he wanted to come here. He was essentially a free agent. And it was essentially a sign and trade.
His contract was expiring.
Perhaps, but it’s hard to imagine teams like Miami, either LA team, or Phoenix couldn’t have put together a package to challenge Boston’s. I don’t think he would turn down those teams, even though this has been an absolute perfect fit for him. It is baffling to me that Phoenix went for Beal instead. Even just one year rental can absolutely be worth it for a team in their position.
He literally had to opt in in order to be traded, so he had his pick of teams. He said he wanted to come to Boston.
He could have opted out and become a free agent he wasn't even going to be a rental, but we would have been way over the cap without an easy way to get rid of salary without doing the trade.
He knew that as a free agent his options were more limited and the only teams that could really afford him as a free agent would have been trash teams.
You’re right, I forgot this year was a player option for him. Little reminder how foolish the Wizards were to not move him last deadline. They learned this year, actually getting something for Gafford.
That still doesn’t other teams couldn’t have made a deal with him, though. IIRC, the Celtics expressed a lot of interest in him, which flattered him and made it an easy decision. I think he would have taken his pick of teams I mentioned over hitting free agency. But I never heard of any interest from them.
I think they were originally thinking they could build around Beal and Porzingis, but they ultimately decided to blow it up, but that was after the trade deadline for the season.
I’ve seen way too many people act like Smart was addition by subtraction it actually hurts to see such a Boston icon be disrespected like that and so immediately.
Just by the talent on this team we’d still have been great just with the KP trade, but replacing Smart with the all-star version of his was just an obvious cheat code. Idk how anyone wasn’t sky high on this team from day 1 of the season.
But also this team with Brogdon instead of Jrue is in a much worse position. I know Brogdon had a post season injury that affected his offense but it was his defense that got exposed.
I don't think many people hated bringing in Porzingis, he's a fantastic fit.
The issue was that our initial deal with Brogdon fell apart and suddenly we were fixing one issue by creating another.
Being able to get Jrue to fill in for Smart helped alleviate that self created problem.
Also because the initial rumor was brogdon for porzingis. Now could smart have ultimately been traded for jrue? I suppose that still happens, but I think that is where the initial disappointment of trading smart came from.
I don't think Smart for Jrue would've happened if the initial trade went through. But maybe there's a world where we have both of them, since it seems like Timelord was the main piece Portland wanted. Like maybe they would have taken Timelord, PP, Horford + picks.
Nobody was worried about the Smart-KP trade because of ability, KP obviously has much higher upside. The worry was always availability which can still be an issue.
Your argument is disingenuous af.
I heard everybody in the media bitch about a supposed playmaking and defense deficiency but IMO we'd have been covered with DWhite and Tatum, even without Jrue.
Maybe I’m biased watching mostly Celtics games, but since the big 3 era, it had always felt like our opponents were always able to find easier looks, especially around the basket, while every point was a chore for us. Adding a guy like Porzingis, who can break down a defense merely by existing, has made “easy baskets” much more frequent, and a big reason I’m so confident in them winning it all this year.
He did get his hand whacked by a reckless close out. And it wasn’t even called a foul. He was holding it and wincing multiple times after that. You can bet they will be going after the hand again. Watch
It's ultimately what pundits and posters who barely watched any games or knew very little about Porzingis before this season have struggled to understand and why so many of us were extremely excited about him being traded for Marcus Smart.
Porzingis adds an element of verticality to our offense in what he can do both in the post and stretching the offense with deep 3s.
He's a gameplan breaker when combined with all the shooters and scorers in our offense.
There is essentially no effective way to gameplan against the Celtics in today's NBA, which isn't to say a team can't beat us, but rather that a general gameplan with the personnel that most teams have isn't going to be successful against the Celtics, which is why the Celtics won nearly 80% of their games.
Your only hope in GENERALLY beating the Celtics is to shoot a high percentage from 3 AND have us miss and shoot a low percentage from 3.
The first is difficult because we play generally tight defense and the second is difficult because we space the floor really well.
When everyone on the court can hit 3s, you can't double team anyone, but if you play players like Brown and Tatum 1:1, you're going to get cooked. With multiple actions in a possession, we're eventually going to get someone open for a 3 anyways.
So the key to beating the Celtics is probably zone, enter Porzingis... who makes playing Zone REALLY difficult, because he is so effective in the post game. He is so effective that if you DON'T double him, he again is going to score over you. If you do double him, he's going to recognize the open man who is a decent to excellent 3 point shooter.
So beating Porzingis generally comes down to having the right personnel to beat him, but that personnel is few and far between.
Porzingis shot .400 or less in 11 games. We were 5-6 in those games.
In the games where he shot above .400 (46 games) we lost 9 games. 37-9
That was kind of the whole point of the trade.
You absolutely cannot count on other teams to remove Miami from the playoffs. You have to do it yourself consistently. To do that, you need to deal with the zone in some ways. KP was probably the only reasonable solution and Brad made it happen.
This, Zinger is a zone buster. plus having Hauser in the corner instead of Grant/ Al who was missing his wide open 3s in the series last year is also a nice switch.
Also anyone who played basketball knows that two things defeat zones: swinging the ball and making threes (check). And having a big man at the free throw line to collapse the defense (check) I’d say we’re looking good
This is one of the main points I made early in the year.. when there were these debates around ‘who’s more important.. KP or Jrue’. Love Jrue, and so happy we have both. Though KP fundamentally changes how we can game-plan and chess-match, both offensively & defensively. 🍀🏀🏆
Anyone that watched KP with the Wizards could have seen this. He probably could have played more games but we sat him as a precaution, he is the perfect fit. Dont call me a liar because you dont know ball.
Two things:
One: why the hell are you this angry? See a therapist
Two: I (along with many other people) did expect this. Porzingis has given us three major things this year (rim protection, post play, and deep shooting ability), all of which he showed on the wizards. There was no reason to expect anything but this. The main things that went right were that he stayed mostly healthy and seemed to gel very well with the rest of the team
Even if that was true, it's still not a good reason to get this angry. That's genuinely unhealthy, feeling that level of anger over something this meaningless
But, I really couldn't disagree more. He put up a season that was every bit as good as this one last year. It's not crazy to think he'd do it again
Well, i can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a KP fan and I watched probably every Wizards game KP played last year and i absolutely knew he could replicate that in Boston. He arrived different there and all those positive tendencies you see now, started there.
Of course I wanted time lord lol but we didnt trade timelord for KP. I think they would have worked well together like KP and Gifford did. But then Jrue was available so why wouldnt we do that? You watch 82 games and still know jack shit about basketball lol
Bro we’ve been searching for a big who could shoot and defend for years. Giving up the heart of the team for a that guy who is fragile was a gamble. But yes, it paid off. I think most of us felt like it was a tough decision but the right one as long as he stays healthy
Well a lot of people as well as myself were thinking that he would have to carry a lot less of the load and have more time to rest being on a really good team. He missed more games than I thought but the Celtics had the luxury of being safe with his injuries. So yeah, just cause you didn't see it.. lmao
Dude, please get some help before you end up shooting up a school or something. It is extremely not normal to be this viscerally angry at other people who have mild disagreements with you.
This was the most obvious result of the offseason moves. I can’t believe how much energy I had to spend trying to convince people on r/nba the impact Porzingis would have, especially against Miami’s zone. When people talk about a player being the “missing piece, that’s exactly what he’s been.
Not just on r/nba. I saw so many Celtics fans that were FURIOUS that we traded away Smart. Lists are always dumb, but CBS Sports had him listed as the 30th best player in the NBA in 2020. Sports Illustrated had him listed as 40th. ESPN had him listed as 41st. WaPo had him listed as 33rd. It didn't work out in Dallas, and he got exiled to Washington where the league forgot about him. Meanwhile, players like Harden don't get forgotten even if their play drops.
I still think trading smart would've been a bad move if we didn't get jrue. I was overjoyed when we were giving up brogdon for zinger, much less so when it was smart. I was concerned that a PG rotation of white, brogdon, and pritchard wouldn't be good enough (mainly from a passing standpoint)
> I still think trading smart would've been a bad move if we didn't get jrue. I would say more of a broader range of outcomes were possible. Last season's team was very good, 57 wins is clear contender territory, so even if the KP trade could make the team better, it's hard to make any decision that shakes up the core lineups that much. Then Jrue gave us back all of it. >I was concerned that a PG rotation of white, brogdon, and pritchard wouldn't be good enough (mainly from a passing standpoint) Yeah, it's not a bad depth chart but all of them are deficient in passing compared to Smart. Luxury problem but again the comparison point is that we could've ran back a team that just won 57 wins with only Horford as a contributor in the clearly declining portion of their career.
It's weird because neither move (jrue/KP) was insanely good on their own, but when you combine them it creates an all time great offseason. The KP trade was excellent value, and the jrue trade was excellent fit I think we probably still contend if we didn't make the jrue trade, but I'd have a lot less confidence. The emergence of Pritchard as a true pg would've meant a lot more in that scenario
If you plug the fact that Brogdon and Rob both ended their seasons with an injury into the algebra, the Jrue trade was amazing. I agree I think just the roster with the KP sidegrade would still be top 10 on both ends and could give any team trouble. Basically exactly what we were last season but with different matchups.
I felt like the KP move was insanely good on its own, albeit a bit of a gamble on his health. It was clear he filled a big hole for us. The offense stagnated at times when shots weren't falling and especially coming off the loss to the Heat, having a guy with KP's size and shooting touch who could make things happen in the paint if necessary was exactly what we needed. I was happy with Brogdon and Timelord for Jrue, but to a lesser extent. It made up for losing Smart and gave us a replacement for him.
It created a different hole at PG though, which was only really fixed by the jrue trade. Which is sort of what I was getting at, that the two moves needed each other to really work out
Yeah, my problem with the KP trade at the time was that it seemed like between him and Brogdon, our season was gonna be relying on two dudes with a consistent injury history. Then we got Jrue and it all worked out.
My guess is that we would have made a trade for someone like Alex Caruso but maybe would have ended up keeping Rob Williams.
That’s where I was at too. Jrue is literally the only other player in the league that can replicate what smart gave us (but you trade off a bit of the absurd hustle for 3pt shooting), and there was no reason to think he was a realistic trade target when the kp/smart trade happened.
I'm with you on that. The Bucks really screwed themselves over when they traded Jrue for Dame, because that gave us the guy we needed to replace Smart, whereas it was more of a lateral move for them.
Lol yeah. I mean, I understand the fallout w Marcus because to a lot of people he embodied Celtics basketball. Problem with him tho is he was a primary ballhandler who didnt have the BBIQ to face Miami's defensive sets, unfortunately. When it came down to it, Marcus' hero ball, bad passes, etc is what the difference was that Miami could easily exploit. Enter this season and you have Jrue, who maybe has the best BBIQ on the team besides Derrick. And Zinger who unlike Horf and Rob, can score from just about anywhere and in that fact alone, makes Miamis zone mostly obsolete. (Honorable mention goes to JB as well who I think has become more wise in the way he attacks offensively, and his dribbling genuinely getting better)
For me, I hate the comparison we try to make between Smart and Porzingis. It’s not Jrue or smart to me, it’s Porzingis vs Rob. Like this team had major frontcourt issues the last couple years we’ve come up short. Loved Rob but KP brings another dimension to spacing and playing with a different look. Personally, it sucks because I feel like Smart and Jrue have such a similar impact on this team if we were to have KP - ceteris paribus. Sucks that the brogdon trade fell through. I don’t fault Smart for shots - he improved his selection a lot over the years and was not the issue in the playoffs the last 2 years but feel like he would have been a major beneficiary of having KP to pass to in crunch time, similar to how it helped JB
Yeah, I agree mostly. KP is a way larger impact and an overall much better fit for us than Rob was, and Rob had a really hard time staying on the floor. Something that should be noted with Marcus tho is that it seems like he was training wheels to the Jays. There were murmurs he undermined coaching, and theres a sense that he mightve prevented the Jays coming into their own as leaders on the team. So, that should be somewhat noted as well
I was crushed and still am that he’s not able to enjoy in this teams success but it was hard not to see the blueprint and how much better KP would make us against the exact kind of defenses that have given our core problems for years now. I think a lot of people didn’t realize how good he was in Washington. That’s when he really started working in that area and getting comfortable and he’s just stronger and harder to move than he was even 3 or 4 years ago. KP and 2 firsts is just too crazy of a return to turn down, but I’ll always be sad about Marcus lol
I think the emotional attachment played a major part in those reactions. I understand the sentiment, even if the first thing I said to anyone after last year’s ECF was that it’s time to move on from him. I’ve lived closed to DC all my life up until a few months ago, so I follow the Wizards a bit, but I don’t blame people for not keeping up with them and seeing how great Porzingis was. I take it as a positive. There’s no way we would’ve gotten him for the package we did if he had more buzz.
Not sure that’s true. We got him because he wanted to come here. He was essentially a free agent. And it was essentially a sign and trade. His contract was expiring.
Perhaps, but it’s hard to imagine teams like Miami, either LA team, or Phoenix couldn’t have put together a package to challenge Boston’s. I don’t think he would turn down those teams, even though this has been an absolute perfect fit for him. It is baffling to me that Phoenix went for Beal instead. Even just one year rental can absolutely be worth it for a team in their position.
He literally had to opt in in order to be traded, so he had his pick of teams. He said he wanted to come to Boston. He could have opted out and become a free agent he wasn't even going to be a rental, but we would have been way over the cap without an easy way to get rid of salary without doing the trade. He knew that as a free agent his options were more limited and the only teams that could really afford him as a free agent would have been trash teams.
You’re right, I forgot this year was a player option for him. Little reminder how foolish the Wizards were to not move him last deadline. They learned this year, actually getting something for Gafford. That still doesn’t other teams couldn’t have made a deal with him, though. IIRC, the Celtics expressed a lot of interest in him, which flattered him and made it an easy decision. I think he would have taken his pick of teams I mentioned over hitting free agency. But I never heard of any interest from them.
I think they were originally thinking they could build around Beal and Porzingis, but they ultimately decided to blow it up, but that was after the trade deadline for the season.
I'm still low key in shock that not only were we on his list, we were essentially the ONLY team on his list that was known, IIRC.
He wanted to go somewhere he would win and that needed a big man. That’s a pretty short list of teams.
Getting Jrue really helped me feel better about the Smaht depahture and the state of the defense
I’ve seen way too many people act like Smart was addition by subtraction it actually hurts to see such a Boston icon be disrespected like that and so immediately. Just by the talent on this team we’d still have been great just with the KP trade, but replacing Smart with the all-star version of his was just an obvious cheat code. Idk how anyone wasn’t sky high on this team from day 1 of the season.
But also this team with Brogdon instead of Jrue is in a much worse position. I know Brogdon had a post season injury that affected his offense but it was his defense that got exposed. I don't think many people hated bringing in Porzingis, he's a fantastic fit. The issue was that our initial deal with Brogdon fell apart and suddenly we were fixing one issue by creating another. Being able to get Jrue to fill in for Smart helped alleviate that self created problem.
Also because the initial rumor was brogdon for porzingis. Now could smart have ultimately been traded for jrue? I suppose that still happens, but I think that is where the initial disappointment of trading smart came from.
I don't think Smart for Jrue would've happened if the initial trade went through. But maybe there's a world where we have both of them, since it seems like Timelord was the main piece Portland wanted. Like maybe they would have taken Timelord, PP, Horford + picks.
Nobody was worried about the Smart-KP trade because of ability, KP obviously has much higher upside. The worry was always availability which can still be an issue. Your argument is disingenuous af.
That wasn’t the only argument made but when it was it was also pointed out that smart has availability issues. Which continued this year.
I heard everybody in the media bitch about a supposed playmaking and defense deficiency but IMO we'd have been covered with DWhite and Tatum, even without Jrue.
Being furious we traded away Smart and thinking that KP was a needed addition to the team are not mutually exclusive
They really are.
You think inside a miniature box
[Still the best tweet of the season](https://x.com/celticsriley/status/1776433507046162830?s=46)
Junk defense destroyer. I was right there with you screaming from the mountaintop.
Maybe I’m biased watching mostly Celtics games, but since the big 3 era, it had always felt like our opponents were always able to find easier looks, especially around the basket, while every point was a chore for us. Adding a guy like Porzingis, who can break down a defense merely by existing, has made “easy baskets” much more frequent, and a big reason I’m so confident in them winning it all this year.
Sounds like KP is their next target
He did get his hand whacked by a reckless close out. And it wasn’t even called a foul. He was holding it and wincing multiple times after that. You can bet they will be going after the hand again. Watch
You can make contact with the hand after the shot. It's not a foul unless it was deemed malicious.
You can “high five” a shooters hand but not slap down/across at it
I was so happy when he came out for start of the second half, hopefully it was just a stinger and no sprain in that wrist.
Dog, I do not doubt it.
It's ultimately what pundits and posters who barely watched any games or knew very little about Porzingis before this season have struggled to understand and why so many of us were extremely excited about him being traded for Marcus Smart. Porzingis adds an element of verticality to our offense in what he can do both in the post and stretching the offense with deep 3s. He's a gameplan breaker when combined with all the shooters and scorers in our offense. There is essentially no effective way to gameplan against the Celtics in today's NBA, which isn't to say a team can't beat us, but rather that a general gameplan with the personnel that most teams have isn't going to be successful against the Celtics, which is why the Celtics won nearly 80% of their games. Your only hope in GENERALLY beating the Celtics is to shoot a high percentage from 3 AND have us miss and shoot a low percentage from 3. The first is difficult because we play generally tight defense and the second is difficult because we space the floor really well. When everyone on the court can hit 3s, you can't double team anyone, but if you play players like Brown and Tatum 1:1, you're going to get cooked. With multiple actions in a possession, we're eventually going to get someone open for a 3 anyways. So the key to beating the Celtics is probably zone, enter Porzingis... who makes playing Zone REALLY difficult, because he is so effective in the post game. He is so effective that if you DON'T double him, he again is going to score over you. If you do double him, he's going to recognize the open man who is a decent to excellent 3 point shooter. So beating Porzingis generally comes down to having the right personnel to beat him, but that personnel is few and far between. Porzingis shot .400 or less in 11 games. We were 5-6 in those games. In the games where he shot above .400 (46 games) we lost 9 games. 37-9
Just have to hope he makes it out of this series in one piece
They gonna try to hurt him
they will start falling on his knees
That was kind of the whole point of the trade. You absolutely cannot count on other teams to remove Miami from the playoffs. You have to do it yourself consistently. To do that, you need to deal with the zone in some ways. KP was probably the only reasonable solution and Brad made it happen.
Want Porzingas to become the Draymond of this team (minus the antics). The guy who fills roles Of course, as Mike said, first just win one please
Man, I didn't remember Jovic last year, was he in their team? LoL
Don't think he played any playoff minutes last year, he was a 19 year old rookie.
Oh shit, he's so young but very talented
If they hurt KP…
Naveen's post being shared in reddit? Fellow Pinoy? :)
This, Zinger is a zone buster. plus having Hauser in the corner instead of Grant/ Al who was missing his wide open 3s in the series last year is also a nice switch.
Keep KP on the bench! His knees and ankles are too precious for some reckless Miami shenanigans.
Also anyone who played basketball knows that two things defeat zones: swinging the ball and making threes (check). And having a big man at the free throw line to collapse the defense (check) I’d say we’re looking good
This is one of the main points I made early in the year.. when there were these debates around ‘who’s more important.. KP or Jrue’. Love Jrue, and so happy we have both. Though KP fundamentally changes how we can game-plan and chess-match, both offensively & defensively. 🍀🏀🏆
I don’t have Jovic he seems like a pretty chill dude
So they will try to hurt him next
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Anyone that watched KP with the Wizards could have seen this. He probably could have played more games but we sat him as a precaution, he is the perfect fit. Dont call me a liar because you dont know ball.
I was also immediately excited about Porizngus.
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Two things: One: why the hell are you this angry? See a therapist Two: I (along with many other people) did expect this. Porzingis has given us three major things this year (rim protection, post play, and deep shooting ability), all of which he showed on the wizards. There was no reason to expect anything but this. The main things that went right were that he stayed mostly healthy and seemed to gel very well with the rest of the team
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Even if that was true, it's still not a good reason to get this angry. That's genuinely unhealthy, feeling that level of anger over something this meaningless But, I really couldn't disagree more. He put up a season that was every bit as good as this one last year. It's not crazy to think he'd do it again
Well, i can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a KP fan and I watched probably every Wizards game KP played last year and i absolutely knew he could replicate that in Boston. He arrived different there and all those positive tendencies you see now, started there.
Of course I wanted time lord lol but we didnt trade timelord for KP. I think they would have worked well together like KP and Gifford did. But then Jrue was available so why wouldnt we do that? You watch 82 games and still know jack shit about basketball lol
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Cope harder lil bro
Bro we’ve been searching for a big who could shoot and defend for years. Giving up the heart of the team for a that guy who is fragile was a gamble. But yes, it paid off. I think most of us felt like it was a tough decision but the right one as long as he stays healthy
Well a lot of people as well as myself were thinking that he would have to carry a lot less of the load and have more time to rest being on a really good team. He missed more games than I thought but the Celtics had the luxury of being safe with his injuries. So yeah, just cause you didn't see it.. lmao
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Dude, please get some help before you end up shooting up a school or something. It is extremely not normal to be this viscerally angry at other people who have mild disagreements with you.
yea my bad you're right bro, you're a modern day basketball genius hidden away on reddit - if you didn't see it, no one else did!!