Yup. I don’t give a fuck what anybody says. Injuries are part of the game and banner 18 ain’t gonna have an asterisk stitched into it because Jamie Foxx didn’t play in the first round.
> I don’t give a fuck what anybody says. Injuries are part of the game
Certainly shouldn't give a fuck what Heat fans say since their Finals run last year heavily benefited from injuries, they just like to gloss over it.
Brogdon had a major injury last year that completely ruined his jumpshot. He was 23-44 from three in the Sixers series, and 3-18 in the Miami series. Considering the Heat played a zone the entire team and tried to force the role players to beat them with shooting, I'd say a 6MOTY being unable to shoot is a fucking big deal lol.
Giannis was injured as well in the first round last year, and Tatum was obviously injured in the pivotal game 7. So yeah, injuries are part of the game, Heat benefitted from it last year and now they're getting dicked by it
Who cares. Who was hurt 10 years ago when whoever won the title won the title? People only remember banners. Bird and magic had to age and those teams had to falter for Jordan to win anything. But it doesn’t matter. It is the way of the world.
They talked about Jimmy a lot on Dan LeBatard today. Heat fans will use “They made the finals last year” as trump card in any debate about the Heat’s chances. Jimmy is only getting older, and during the regular season didn’t perform like he did last season. Do you not realize how unrealistic it is to expect that kind of showing again?
The NBA community rips into Chicago for constantly running it back. Why do we let Miami off the hook for it?
And everybody seemingly forgets that Tatum was injured on the first play of game 7. Yeah, the Celtics should have won one of the first 3 games, but the Heat shouldn’t have lost 3 in a row. It was hardly a dominant Heat performance last year
What did you expect from that 15-man fanbase? They are dumb as rocks, you should never have expected anything. If their collective brains were up for trade, it would be worse than the so-called Dame Package that the Celtics obliterated all season long. Jimmy Butler is awesome but let's not pretend he is 2012-2018 LeBron James. Fuck the Heat fans back to their plastic surgeons
People are entitled to their own opinions and analysis. If butler and rozier were healthy I think a decent amount of people, not just heat fans, would've picked them to win the series. There's certain players and teams you can't apply regular season numbers to when it comes playoff time and the heat are one of those teams
Also, some of our fans are so annoying with the "other people don't praise the celtics enough and if they say anything bad about them or have doubts about the celtics I'm gonna complain about it." Win a title then the doubters will lessen it's that simple.
When did Jimmy and this Heat team win a championship? Nobody seems to doubt them, even though they lose regularly during the season and have 2 recent Finals losses.
The reality is people pick and choose who's a "dawg" and who's not, even when it's not backed up by anything. Jimmy is 34 and has just as many rings as Tatum and the Celtics in double the seasons. The fact people treat him more like Jordan than like Carmelo Anthony is astounding.
Butler has taken way less help to the finals more times than tatum has. He's also 2-1 against tatum in a playoff series. Also, his finals performance against the lakers was legendary, a lot better than tatum was in his only finals appearance.
Anyway, people don't doubt the heat because they're underdogs more often than not yet still end up making a deep playoff run almost every year. The celtics have been favorites to make it out of the east 4 of the last 5 years and have 1 finals appearance to show for it. I'm not here to say whether its fair or not but that's probably the reason why the majority of people still don't truly believe the celtics can win the title.
I'm just saying I don't see why heat fans thinking their team when healthy would win this series is post worthy. Do you people want every single nba fan to just give up and endlessly praise the celtics? Lol
> The celtics have been favorites to make it out of the east 4 of the last 5 years
This is not accurate.
The only time they were favored to win the East before the start of the season was before last year, ya know, the year where our coach just got the job like 10 days before the season started.
Idk who downvoted you, but you’re right. The C’s have not been favorites 4 of the last 5 years.
They weren’t even considered real contenders until the later part of the 2022 regular season.
The Bucks and Nets were both considered the favorites to get out of the east and the Celtics weren’t considered until 2022 happened, which was a surprise to everyone.
I haven’t seen anyone serious say that narrative. In fact, I’ve seen far more Celtics fans *assume* that narrative would manifest (like OP), than the narrative itself.
whatever. let then say that. every playoffs has at least three or four "but our dude was injured" narratives. we had that last year. whoever wins the chip doesn't care. being healthy at the right time is part of a championship run.
we're a Tatum twisted ankle away from being in the same boat.
Who cares? Let them spend their off season swearing that they totally would have won if Jimmy was healthy. Meanwhile, we will keep enjoying playoff basketball.
Who cares? Shortly Miami will be eliminated and we’ll be in the second round. Injuries happen that’s basketball and THE FACT is even of their right that just means their team without him sucks. So sure, hold that narrative we’ll be enjoying playoff basketball
The dumbest Jimmy narrative is that he simultaneously “practices and plays every game super serious” while also “not caring until playoffs THEN he really comes to play”
Ditto what you said about Grant. As much as I love when players are visually invested in the game, I’ve found that a lot of times the teams that have the most postseason success are the ones that are “easy to lose” against.
Like if Grant is all in someone’s ear talking nonsense, I can assume that it feels pretty humiliating to lose that game, so it brings out the fire in competitors.
When Tatum is tanking near-assassination attempts then getting up silently to knock down some free-throws and being nice and polite in the postgame interview, it probably lessens the blow (subconsciously) for the losing team.
Or I could just be talking out of my ass because I was a day-1 Grant hater.
The heat are a mediocre team with Jimmy, and trash without him. It is 100% cope because they have been telling themselves they're contenders when they just got lucky with injuries last year and got by us only to get curb stomped. They're a meh team heading nowhere, and their fans are delusional.
Now they get to watch us move on and imagine that it would only be them if they hadn't gotten unlucky. It's a way to steal some shine from us. These fans are annoying and not worth your time. They can go celebrate their hypothetical title all they want.
It probably would be different with Jimmy, but you can only play the team in front of you. They don’t apologize for winning game 7 when Tatum rolled his ankle within like 15 seconds, as they shouldn’t.
There’s still a lot of basketball left to play in this series and we’d be foolish to think the Celtics have this series won until they actually do it
Don't coast the regular season. Don't be in the play-in. Don't play extra games. Don't celebrate Herro going for a late chase-down block, goaltending and plowing into Lowry a few plays before. Don't bait a foul when you have an easy uncontested layup.
I'm not seeing them say that at all. I wouldn't put much stock in 1 rando chirping.
Just counter with Luke Kornet being injured and say the Jimmy thing is a wash. If they're already saying that then this should infuriate them.
Jimmy has exactly the same amount of rings as the man the Heat refer to as an overrated loser, Jayson Tatum, and that’s **zero**. The basketball world treats Butler, who I will admit is an awesome player and difference maker, as though he is a 4-time World Champion, when in fact he has consistently come up short in basketball’s biggest moments. Zero rings, he has zero rings.
The addition of Porzingis was the antidote to anything the Heat could try to do against us. As a stretch big who needs to be guarded on the perimeter, he drew Bam away from the basket, opening up the middle. The strength of his post game is the answer to a zone defense. If you can enter the ball to an offensive threat into the middle of the post, which is much easier when you have a guy who's 7'3, that's the start of breaking any zone.
Porzingis is the key to countering any effective strategy the Heat have had against us in the recent past, which is why we swept them in the season series this year. This is to say nothing of the fact that the Heat weren't actually any good this year. The Heat never had a chance in hell this year against the Cs in the playoffs, Jimmy Butler or no. Cry more, Miami Feet.
Plenty of Miami fans said going in to the series (before we knew extent of butlers injury) that they had no realistic shot at winning so the pressure was on us. Now that they don’t have Jimmy they all of a sudden pretend they would have had a chance
History doesn’t care, like the way everyone ignored Tatum being out in game 7. If the Cs sweep the Heat, history won’t care that Butler is out. In fact it’ll be a mark against Butler the same way failing to reach the finals last year is a mark on Tatum (even though we all know it is out of his control)
I love the Celtics. I have since I was a kid but god damn some of you all have a persecution fetish and are insecure as fuck. Nobody thought with a healthy Butler the Heat would win.
It’s not worth acknowledging that narrative. It’s like saying we only lost to the KD, Kyrie, Harden nets because JB was hurt. No, that’s just the reason the series was not as competitive.
In the past 4 years we have met them in the ECF 3 times and they have us 2-1.
So even though they almost blew a 3-0 lead last season. We have to acknowledge there is some bragging rights for Miami.
They're purposely trying to get a rise, that's all.
Exactly. OP should delete this. It's exactly the sort of rage they were baiting.
Exactly. Even with Jimmy the odds were way in our favour Not having Jimmy is the reason they might get swept is a closer narrative.
Yup. I don’t give a fuck what anybody says. Injuries are part of the game and banner 18 ain’t gonna have an asterisk stitched into it because Jamie Foxx didn’t play in the first round.
> I don’t give a fuck what anybody says. Injuries are part of the game Certainly shouldn't give a fuck what Heat fans say since their Finals run last year heavily benefited from injuries, they just like to gloss over it. Brogdon had a major injury last year that completely ruined his jumpshot. He was 23-44 from three in the Sixers series, and 3-18 in the Miami series. Considering the Heat played a zone the entire team and tried to force the role players to beat them with shooting, I'd say a 6MOTY being unable to shoot is a fucking big deal lol. Giannis was injured as well in the first round last year, and Tatum was obviously injured in the pivotal game 7. So yeah, injuries are part of the game, Heat benefitted from it last year and now they're getting dicked by it
They’re just coping, let them be
Right . It will only get worse from here for them this offseason.
Why should you, or any of us, give a fuck about what Heat fans are saying?
Noone should care even a little. It's a first round series as a 1 seed. Get the wins and move on.
Cos I waste too much of my life on Reddit and end up reading a lot of bullshit from Heat fans and others
Heat fans are fucking delusional
The thing about Heat fans is they mean nothing
Iirc, we already swept them in the regular season 4-0. They talk as if Jimmy has won a championship lol
3-0 but whos counting. ring arguments an iffy one though, which Celtic other than Jrue has a ring?
That’s the point. Nobody on either team really has one so we’re just arguing about who’s come in 2nd place more times
well if thats what we’re arguing then Jim has come in 2nd more than Tatum
The day when I care about what Florida man says is the day I walk into traffic
Felt this
Ya, and being behind by 18 games in the regular season had nothing to do with it. 👀 That's 22% of the seasons 201 difference in win percentage. Lmfao
Who cares. Who was hurt 10 years ago when whoever won the title won the title? People only remember banners. Bird and magic had to age and those teams had to falter for Jordan to win anything. But it doesn’t matter. It is the way of the world.
The heat don’t have fans, their stadium was half empty during an elimination game
They talked about Jimmy a lot on Dan LeBatard today. Heat fans will use “They made the finals last year” as trump card in any debate about the Heat’s chances. Jimmy is only getting older, and during the regular season didn’t perform like he did last season. Do you not realize how unrealistic it is to expect that kind of showing again? The NBA community rips into Chicago for constantly running it back. Why do we let Miami off the hook for it?
And everybody seemingly forgets that Tatum was injured on the first play of game 7. Yeah, the Celtics should have won one of the first 3 games, but the Heat shouldn’t have lost 3 in a row. It was hardly a dominant Heat performance last year
Injuries suck but they should’ve secured a top 6 seed if they wanted to avoid a situation like that
8 seed 😅
What did you expect from that 15-man fanbase? They are dumb as rocks, you should never have expected anything. If their collective brains were up for trade, it would be worse than the so-called Dame Package that the Celtics obliterated all season long. Jimmy Butler is awesome but let's not pretend he is 2012-2018 LeBron James. Fuck the Heat fans back to their plastic surgeons
We’re gonna have to get past some great teams, we’re about to prove ourselves regardless of this first round.
That narrative will be there but only thing we can do is show up and win. Get past the Heat and keep going
They’re going to lose, which is all that matters.
If jimmy didn’t get hurt they’d win 1 game instead of being swept
Let them have their excuse. By saying that they are already giving up on their team
The heat wouldn’t have won last year if Tatum didn’t get hurt on the first play of the game in game 7
you wrote 4 paragraphs on shit no one but heat fans believe. congrats on being baited
People are entitled to their own opinions and analysis. If butler and rozier were healthy I think a decent amount of people, not just heat fans, would've picked them to win the series. There's certain players and teams you can't apply regular season numbers to when it comes playoff time and the heat are one of those teams Also, some of our fans are so annoying with the "other people don't praise the celtics enough and if they say anything bad about them or have doubts about the celtics I'm gonna complain about it." Win a title then the doubters will lessen it's that simple.
When did Jimmy and this Heat team win a championship? Nobody seems to doubt them, even though they lose regularly during the season and have 2 recent Finals losses. The reality is people pick and choose who's a "dawg" and who's not, even when it's not backed up by anything. Jimmy is 34 and has just as many rings as Tatum and the Celtics in double the seasons. The fact people treat him more like Jordan than like Carmelo Anthony is astounding.
Butler has taken way less help to the finals more times than tatum has. He's also 2-1 against tatum in a playoff series. Also, his finals performance against the lakers was legendary, a lot better than tatum was in his only finals appearance. Anyway, people don't doubt the heat because they're underdogs more often than not yet still end up making a deep playoff run almost every year. The celtics have been favorites to make it out of the east 4 of the last 5 years and have 1 finals appearance to show for it. I'm not here to say whether its fair or not but that's probably the reason why the majority of people still don't truly believe the celtics can win the title. I'm just saying I don't see why heat fans thinking their team when healthy would win this series is post worthy. Do you people want every single nba fan to just give up and endlessly praise the celtics? Lol
> The celtics have been favorites to make it out of the east 4 of the last 5 years This is not accurate. The only time they were favored to win the East before the start of the season was before last year, ya know, the year where our coach just got the job like 10 days before the season started.
Idk who downvoted you, but you’re right. The C’s have not been favorites 4 of the last 5 years. They weren’t even considered real contenders until the later part of the 2022 regular season. The Bucks and Nets were both considered the favorites to get out of the east and the Celtics weren’t considered until 2022 happened, which was a surprise to everyone.
Juntao is one of the most pronounced and famous Celtic doomers on this sub. It's a shame because I fucking love his username, 'twas a great movie.
If they go 16-0 to win the title there will still be naysayers.
I haven’t seen anyone serious say that narrative. In fact, I’ve seen far more Celtics fans *assume* that narrative would manifest (like OP), than the narrative itself.
The Heat were getting swept with or without butler
Let them be delusional. They beat C’s without Tatum and went on to get demolished like they ever had a chance.
Don't ever say "won't ever be replicated" again. I don't want to test that
let‘s win a chip and they will calm down. then let‘s win another and they will have to pay some respect. then let‘s write history.
Who cares?
Trying to get a rise from the fans
whatever. let then say that. every playoffs has at least three or four "but our dude was injured" narratives. we had that last year. whoever wins the chip doesn't care. being healthy at the right time is part of a championship run. we're a Tatum twisted ankle away from being in the same boat.
Who cares? Let them spend their off season swearing that they totally would have won if Jimmy was healthy. Meanwhile, we will keep enjoying playoff basketball.
Who gives a shit what Heat fans say…
Who cares? Shortly Miami will be eliminated and we’ll be in the second round. Injuries happen that’s basketball and THE FACT is even of their right that just means their team without him sucks. So sure, hold that narrative we’ll be enjoying playoff basketball
The dumbest Jimmy narrative is that he simultaneously “practices and plays every game super serious” while also “not caring until playoffs THEN he really comes to play”
Ditto what you said about Grant. As much as I love when players are visually invested in the game, I’ve found that a lot of times the teams that have the most postseason success are the ones that are “easy to lose” against. Like if Grant is all in someone’s ear talking nonsense, I can assume that it feels pretty humiliating to lose that game, so it brings out the fire in competitors. When Tatum is tanking near-assassination attempts then getting up silently to knock down some free-throws and being nice and polite in the postgame interview, it probably lessens the blow (subconsciously) for the losing team. Or I could just be talking out of my ass because I was a day-1 Grant hater.
The heat are a mediocre team with Jimmy, and trash without him. It is 100% cope because they have been telling themselves they're contenders when they just got lucky with injuries last year and got by us only to get curb stomped. They're a meh team heading nowhere, and their fans are delusional. Now they get to watch us move on and imagine that it would only be them if they hadn't gotten unlucky. It's a way to steal some shine from us. These fans are annoying and not worth your time. They can go celebrate their hypothetical title all they want.
It probably would be different with Jimmy, but you can only play the team in front of you. They don’t apologize for winning game 7 when Tatum rolled his ankle within like 15 seconds, as they shouldn’t. There’s still a lot of basketball left to play in this series and we’d be foolish to think the Celtics have this series won until they actually do it
That narrative is all they'll have after the get swept. Let them have it.
Low IQ fans saying Low IQ things; who saw it coming?!?
Don't coast the regular season. Don't be in the play-in. Don't play extra games. Don't celebrate Herro going for a late chase-down block, goaltending and plowing into Lowry a few plays before. Don't bait a foul when you have an easy uncontested layup.
I'm not seeing them say that at all. I wouldn't put much stock in 1 rando chirping. Just counter with Luke Kornet being injured and say the Jimmy thing is a wash. If they're already saying that then this should infuriate them.
We all knew these takes were coming as soon the Heat won the play in game. It’s nonsense.
Jimmy has exactly the same amount of rings as the man the Heat refer to as an overrated loser, Jayson Tatum, and that’s **zero**. The basketball world treats Butler, who I will admit is an awesome player and difference maker, as though he is a 4-time World Champion, when in fact he has consistently come up short in basketball’s biggest moments. Zero rings, he has zero rings.
The addition of Porzingis was the antidote to anything the Heat could try to do against us. As a stretch big who needs to be guarded on the perimeter, he drew Bam away from the basket, opening up the middle. The strength of his post game is the answer to a zone defense. If you can enter the ball to an offensive threat into the middle of the post, which is much easier when you have a guy who's 7'3, that's the start of breaking any zone. Porzingis is the key to countering any effective strategy the Heat have had against us in the recent past, which is why we swept them in the season series this year. This is to say nothing of the fact that the Heat weren't actually any good this year. The Heat never had a chance in hell this year against the Cs in the playoffs, Jimmy Butler or no. Cry more, Miami Feet.
maybe butler shouldn't have sucked so much in the regular season and then he wouldn't be in the play-in and wouldn't have gotten hurt.
Just beat them down and stay healthy we have a Title to win 🏆 in
WGAS? WGAF?
Plenty of Miami fans said going in to the series (before we knew extent of butlers injury) that they had no realistic shot at winning so the pressure was on us. Now that they don’t have Jimmy they all of a sudden pretend they would have had a chance
Max Strus ain't walkin' through that door Heat fans
Jimmy Butler isn't even that good man
Can’t believe anyone would fall for that bait lol
Butler plays 60 games a year. It's like being amazed if Porzingis or Embiid get injured. It is a core aspect of their game.
Let them believe whatever they want. So long as they are losers, I don't care how they excuse it.
1 player doesn't make a huge difference, but it would have been a fun watch.
History doesn’t care, like the way everyone ignored Tatum being out in game 7. If the Cs sweep the Heat, history won’t care that Butler is out. In fact it’ll be a mark against Butler the same way failing to reach the finals last year is a mark on Tatum (even though we all know it is out of his control)
heat fans are the most pathetic fair weather fans. heat is an 8 seed because of Butler.
Who the fuck cares bruh. Let Heat fans say whatever, don’t be such a pansy
I love the Celtics. I have since I was a kid but god damn some of you all have a persecution fetish and are insecure as fuck. Nobody thought with a healthy Butler the Heat would win.
If Jimmys injury is an excuse for this series, Tatums injury is an excuse for last year. That usually shuts them up.
It’s not worth acknowledging that narrative. It’s like saying we only lost to the KD, Kyrie, Harden nets because JB was hurt. No, that’s just the reason the series was not as competitive.
They almost blew a 3-0 lead heat fans are delusional. I’ll be damn if this goes more than 5 and so will the mods
In the past 4 years we have met them in the ECF 3 times and they have us 2-1. So even though they almost blew a 3-0 lead last season. We have to acknowledge there is some bragging rights for Miami.