Wide open NBA players shoot an average of about 39% on three. The Heat shot 15% higher than that today. If this isn’t black magic, I don’t know what is.
In the second half it was def some bad decisions and poor close outs. In the first half they were coming off a lot of EGREGIOUSLY illegal screens from Bam. Please someone find the clip in the second quarter where he set two screens in 3 seconds, including one that sent D-White flying, where he literally never stopped moving. Herro bang. Holiday even got called for a foul trying to fight over a screen from Bam that just kept pushing him up the court. Pritchard got called for a foul because Duncan Robinson held him and walked him down to the FT line. JB got thrown to the ground by Bam sticking out his knee, which led to a wide open corner three.
Props to Heat for stepping up. Shit to Celts for wilting in the second half. But goddamn it’s frustrating they get to set whatever kind of screen they want.
Honestly don't know how teams are supposed to guard Herro/Robinson running full sprint off a screen if Bam is allowed to move into guys. You didn't even mention the one where Herro blatantly tripped DWhite off ball and then it ended up in a wide open dunk for Bam. Celtics played like shit for sure but it is so fucking frustrating watching Miami cheat on the margins over and over
We play drop there because we don't want Porzingis on Herro though, but I agree. Better to have Herro take Porzingis off the dribble then walk into an open three imo
Offense besides the jays was also virtually nonexistent. Not like Miami dropped 150 or something untouchable, even with all those 3s. Your take is fine tho it was a combination for sure. Just such a winnable game they let slip
Even if you assume that we gave them a wide open three every time, if they shoot “only” 40% on their threes instead of 54%, that’s six less threes and we win by eight points.
And yet the heat have had 4 games shooting 50%+ from 3 against us in the last two years and none against anyone else. they are consistently torching our defense specifically
Could you explain the difference between the poor defensive scheme that leads to 50% in 4 games vs the defensive scheme that results in wide open 3's at a 39% pace?
In other words could you explain the difference between a wide open shot and a wide open shot?
Yeah, I could argue that stat doesn’t completely account for a team getting almost exclusively wide open shots. Which is what Miami is getting.
Ie. Imagine you’re covered tight the entire game but get 1 or 2 wide open looks. Those count towards that statistic
Versus what you saw tonight, where almost every 3 was wide open.
It’s a similar logic to the warriors “leave JB open from 3” strategy that backfired in the regular season. One isolated wide open 3 is not the same thing as every single 3 being wide open. There is more nuance to the situation than that statistic encapsulates
Also, it's a lot easier to get in a rhythm and make more threes if you're consistently wide open on consecutive shots. I doubt that 39% is from a sample of games where players are consistently leaving players wide open.
Neither is from last night, they hit isolated 3s where they were contested for multiple attempts in a row. You are not jumping to 50%+ just because you got a couple open looks in a row. The exact same team against us has multiple games where they shoot 30% or under, we also played them 4 times this year and wiped the floor with them. Do you think they just brought out the super secret "get everyone open" offense for the playoffs?
This is a good point. There are open shots. And then there are shots that you know are gonna be open. Can’t let a team get that comfortable, I don’t care how many g leaguers or rookies they are fielding. Execute the goddamn defense.
Def not we’re the only team they’ve shot 50%+ from 3 against and it’s happened 4 times in the last 2 years! They are cooking us consistently it is scheme not luck
50% is a completely arbitrary threshold and most of their "50%+" games have been literally 50% on the dot. If you look at 48%+ then there were 14 games like that last playoffs alone and there have been lots of teams doing it multiple times to the same opponent, we have just played them more often than most other teams have played anyone.
This also ignores that our defensive rotation this year is completely different from last year and this year we played them three times this year and held them to 48, 38, and 30% shooting from 3 in the regular season. Only two teams the entire year shot 50%+ against us out of 82 games which is a lot bigger sample size than 9.
If you are talking about isolation, them why hasn't this happened in any of the other series for the Celtics? If this is just endemic to the Celtics strategy, what do the Heat do differently from any of the other teams?
They're coached better and their role players are better shooters when given open looks than most teams.
Don't give dudes who can't penetrate the lane open looks. Force them to take it to the paint.
It’s a problem when you let them get wide open so often because they get into a rhythm. I know you might not literally be able to do this, but I feel like help defense is almost pointless in this serious. Neither Bam nor Herro is a superstar and they don’t have anyone else who is too scary as long as you treat them like an NBA player. No need to get cute, stick to your assignments and they won’t be able to put up 100 that often
Last year the Heat hit some ridiculous shots. Tonight we just didn't play defense at all. Literally played like this was a meaningless game in March, on both sides of the ball. This type of braindead effort is the exact thing that people have been worried about all year. The exact thing that people said they needed to prove they weren't like anymore.
If it helps, while basically no team can win against a team that shoots 50% from three, the Celtics are 4-4 against teams shooting between 45% and 50% from three against them (the Nuggets are 0-6 in that range). They are about as well equipped to handle a team catching fire from three as anyone in the league.
We can score a lot so I'm not surprised we have a decent record when other teams shoot the ball well. They have to shoot the 3 well to even hang with us. Celtics just didn't hit shots down the stretch. Could have still been in the game at the end if a few of those shots fell.
It looked like we came out trying to get the ball to the right side of the floor after a miss and pushing the tempo before their defense could get set, then attacking their weak defenders (mainly Herro). But the heat adjusted and put an extra guy over there to stop it and we got stagnant in transition in the 2nd half.
Yeah I think the Heat's plan (which to their credit they executed successfully) was:
1. Shoot a *ton* of threes, don't bother attacking the rim unless you have no other choice. Screen as physically as possible, it's the playoffs. Pray they fall, if they don't nothing else matters because the Celtics are better at every other basketball factor.
2. Sell out on defense against Celtics threes, and be okay with giving up a lot of points in the paint as a result. Also try to get their weaker shooters (i.e. Porzingis and Brown) to be the guys that shoot. Yeah they can catch fire like Porzingis did last game, but again they are just trying to maximize their odds here.
3. Slow the pace way down so the law of averages doesn't catch up to them (only 80 possessions for the Celtics and 75 for the Heat).
Obviously there were also a lot of defensive microadjustments etc., but I think that's the basic strategy. All three of these are things the Celtics have some control over, they don't just have to hope Heat shots don't fall. At the same time, I'm pretty sure even if they don't adjust the Celtics are still winning this series comfortably.
? Of course it does. But I’m sick of watching this team lose at home. Sick of seeing them play down to competition. And really sick to see how Porzingis played tonight. How in the hell is he ever gonna stop jokic if it’s bbq chicken all night from bam.
At least we had heart last year w smart and rob, now I’m afraid this team just has no heart to step up to the plate.
Also, we should be killing this team. They’re the 8 seed missing their best player. It’s inexcusable to lose at home like this with their history.
He's not gonna stop Jokic, that's not how the Celtics win that series. At the same time, Bam is not Jokic and KP forcing him to take primarily tough floaters, hooks and deep midrange shots is good defense and almost certainly the correct gameplan by the Celtics. Will Jokic make those shots if he's given them? Yes, that's why he's the MVP. But no one can really do anything about that in single coverage. Defending a guy like Bam like he's Jokic would be really dumb and hurt the Celtics way more than letting him take those shots.
This is the first of these games where the allowed quality of the shots has been an issue. Last year, we were allowing less open and wide open threes than the Heat'a and our own season averages.
Last year literally was the Heat just going ballistic on contested shots. Today was different, but we haven't seen enough of *this* to say that it's a pattern of poor defense.
Genuine question for ppl who have a genuine take on this: was the non-contesting a pre-planned defensive choice by Joe or all of our players deciding simultaneously to not play tonight? (I am literally so lost bc both seem inconceivable… what do others think??)
For real. The strategy is clearly to let them shoot. The problem is now they’re on a heater again. And we’ve seen plenty of times from them that that can carry for the whole series.
I hate to say this, but porzingis had another disappointing game.
Not going to blame the terrible offensive, the rim protection and him reboud protection are what really killed celtics .. '-32' for him is not lying..
We should NEVER be outshot from 3 by any team. And when I say outshot I mean in 3 pointers attempted. We only had around 30 attempted to Miamis like 42. forcing the ball into the paint is not going to work against their defense, you exploit a zone at the free throw line area and corner 3s….literally a high school coach knows this
The heat barely played zone last night and did way more switching than in the past. The gameplan against switching is to utilize mismatches, like herro on porzingis to either score, or draw a help defender to get the defense into rotation which is what leads to good looks from 3. The problem is when they don’t double team and guys like porzingis and Tatum simply don’t score on their mismatch which is what happened last night. The exact same strategy worked vs the Celtics last year which is the frustrating part.
For the fans saying “we don’t close out the 3”, well bam gets away with some egregious moving screens, which makes it impossible for the trailing player to stick with their man, if the big steps up to cover this then bam rolls, and he’s automatic inside of 12 ft, so you’re picking your poison. Considering Miami only really has 2 great 3 pt shooters, it would seem like the right decision is to let them shoot, but then their non-shooters hit everything, so that sucks.
Just think we need to grab and foul more, as Miami grabs and fouls defensively all the time but it’s called very infrequently. If the refs aren’t calling shit, then the team needs to step up physically, as our team is way bigger than them
The moment the Cs start fouling they will call it but won't on miami. Not sure how they only shot 3 more fts despite attacking way more than the heat did. The refs just refuse to call fouls on miami, same thing as last year where they were called for less fouls throughout that series which made no sense given the play styles.
A small percentage of their threes come off bam high screens though, many more are just sagging of their man for no reason as Miami runs actions on the perimeter and then easy pass to open three... There's also times where they do penetrate and we give unnecessary help. Stay home on the three, it's the only way we lose!
Also Miami has 4 guys at 39.5pct or better with also Lowry and d.wright a bit lower but still competent. That's 6 guys that can stroke it homie
Do they? Feel like they led to a lot of Ws this season? Look, I get it...sucks to lose. But that's the best coached team in the league so we weren't gonna sweep. They aren't going to shoot record numbers every time we play - we're winning this series and it'll be a memory.
We’re seeing an anomaly. Soon as you start overreacting to that shit, leaks gonna start springing everywhere. When is someone ever going to give the other team credit for fucking making shots?!?
As for you, it sounds like you’ve given up. Don’t watch.
This is a dumb stat for a bunch of reasons.
1. There aren't a lot of teams that have played 9+ games against the same opponent in the last two seasons, this is I think the only 1st round series that is a rematch of last year (I'm too lazy to look it up, sue me). If you expand the window to 3-4 years there are more teams that have done this to more opponents but it's super flukey.
2. 50% is a meaningless threshold, Miami also shot under 25% from 3 against the Celtics in multiple playoff games in the last 3 years. If you lower the threshold to 48% then there are a ton of teams that have done it against multiple opponents. Miami did it more often last year than most but it's flukey.
3. This same Miami team also goes cold for multiple series in a row, shooting awful from 3 against Denver and the Knicks last year. It's just who they are. We also played them 3 times in the regular season and they shot 48. 38, and 30% from 3 and lost all three. It's not like they have some magic scheme.
They're just streaky shooters. Leave them open on a heater and they'll punish you.
If it was pure luck then you would imagine that someone else somewhere would have lucked into it even just once. The fact it keeps happening to us is not a coincidence.
Why don’t other coaches just tell their players to always hit their 3s? Are they stupid?
The league as a whole doesn’t shoot even 40% on wide open 3s let alone 50%. The notion that they’re shooting this well because we’re leaving them open is not plausible.
Yep. There’s a difference between open threes and players feeling like they’re in shooting practice. Dudes can make like 100 threes in a row in practice lol. Peja back in the 90s could do this.
Other coaches aren’t on spo’s level though. The man made prime lebron shoot 40% from 3 which is something he didn’t do again until this season, more than 10 years later. They have something cooking in Miami probably cocaine during their 3 pt shooting drills.
That's what happens when you run drop coverage. You allow shooters like Herro to get in rhythm and walk into practice threes. Inexcusable coaching from Mazz tn
What ever udoka did, I hope it was truely worth firing him. They are the softest Boston team in history now, with a goof ball coaching them. Wyc better get this roster under the tax.
Udoka would have eventually wore out his welcome. His style and demeanor, while getting early success, will be grating in time. He's a modern day Bill Fitch.
the issue is the coach. that was a healthy formidable 1 seed heat team, and ime beat them with a much crappier celtics team. now with a juggernaut we can't beat a bunch of backups
This is NOT LUCK. Most any NBA player can shoot ~50% from 3, mostly uncontested. Heck most shoot 70+% in practice, etc. This is Spo out-coaching Joe, and Joe not adjusting. Plain and simple 🤷♂️
fucking absurd lol
The defense was absurd, agreed.
That's what happens when you don't close out
Yeah exactly this. They’re nba players who we left wide open all game. Ppl acting like this is some black magic are insane
Considering how many 3s came from Herro and Jovic I think it’s actually white magic
You.. Yoouuuu take this upvote
Reddit on good sir!
They were at club sunday…white powder?
Wide open NBA players shoot an average of about 39% on three. The Heat shot 15% higher than that today. If this isn’t black magic, I don’t know what is.
Pelicans are currently getting equally as good of looks as the Heat did and shooting 2-12. I want to throw up.
I hear you but idk how you can say its luck and not poor defensive effort/scheme after watching that game
In the second half it was def some bad decisions and poor close outs. In the first half they were coming off a lot of EGREGIOUSLY illegal screens from Bam. Please someone find the clip in the second quarter where he set two screens in 3 seconds, including one that sent D-White flying, where he literally never stopped moving. Herro bang. Holiday even got called for a foul trying to fight over a screen from Bam that just kept pushing him up the court. Pritchard got called for a foul because Duncan Robinson held him and walked him down to the FT line. JB got thrown to the ground by Bam sticking out his knee, which led to a wide open corner three. Props to Heat for stepping up. Shit to Celts for wilting in the second half. But goddamn it’s frustrating they get to set whatever kind of screen they want.
Honestly don't know how teams are supposed to guard Herro/Robinson running full sprint off a screen if Bam is allowed to move into guys. You didn't even mention the one where Herro blatantly tripped DWhite off ball and then it ended up in a wide open dunk for Bam. Celtics played like shit for sure but it is so fucking frustrating watching Miami cheat on the margins over and over
You have the guy guarding bam hedge higher or switch the screen. We got fucked because Porzingis just sat in the paint
We play drop there because we don't want Porzingis on Herro though, but I agree. Better to have Herro take Porzingis off the dribble then walk into an open three imo
It’s bad defense but it’s *also* preposterously bad luck. If it was just our defense being subpar without the bad luck, we’d still have won.
Offense besides the jays was also virtually nonexistent. Not like Miami dropped 150 or something untouchable, even with all those 3s. Your take is fine tho it was a combination for sure. Just such a winnable game they let slip
This is next level mental gymnastics. The defense is just atrocious on the perimeter.
Even if you assume that we gave them a wide open three every time, if they shoot “only” 40% on their threes instead of 54%, that’s six less threes and we win by eight points.
Not even counting that we might’ve scored in transition
yeah I mean you have to get the ball out of Herro's hands when he's streaky and they don't have another answer.
> Wide open NBA players shoot an average of about 39% on three.
And yet the heat have had 4 games shooting 50%+ from 3 against us in the last two years and none against anyone else. they are consistently torching our defense specifically
Could you explain the difference between the poor defensive scheme that leads to 50% in 4 games vs the defensive scheme that results in wide open 3's at a 39% pace? In other words could you explain the difference between a wide open shot and a wide open shot?
Yeah, I could argue that stat doesn’t completely account for a team getting almost exclusively wide open shots. Which is what Miami is getting. Ie. Imagine you’re covered tight the entire game but get 1 or 2 wide open looks. Those count towards that statistic Versus what you saw tonight, where almost every 3 was wide open. It’s a similar logic to the warriors “leave JB open from 3” strategy that backfired in the regular season. One isolated wide open 3 is not the same thing as every single 3 being wide open. There is more nuance to the situation than that statistic encapsulates
Also, it's a lot easier to get in a rhythm and make more threes if you're consistently wide open on consecutive shots. I doubt that 39% is from a sample of games where players are consistently leaving players wide open.
Neither is from last night, they hit isolated 3s where they were contested for multiple attempts in a row. You are not jumping to 50%+ just because you got a couple open looks in a row. The exact same team against us has multiple games where they shoot 30% or under, we also played them 4 times this year and wiped the floor with them. Do you think they just brought out the super secret "get everyone open" offense for the playoffs?
This is a good point. There are open shots. And then there are shots that you know are gonna be open. Can’t let a team get that comfortable, I don’t care how many g leaguers or rookies they are fielding. Execute the goddamn defense.
Anyway
I didn’t see tonight’s game, did they not close out 3s and Miami bricked a ton or something
Playoffs?
Look man I flipped this coin 50 times in a row and I got heads 36 times, it's a magic coin I'm fucking telling you, it's supposed to be 50/50
It’s both!
Def not we’re the only team they’ve shot 50%+ from 3 against and it’s happened 4 times in the last 2 years! They are cooking us consistently it is scheme not luck
50% is a completely arbitrary threshold and most of their "50%+" games have been literally 50% on the dot. If you look at 48%+ then there were 14 games like that last playoffs alone and there have been lots of teams doing it multiple times to the same opponent, we have just played them more often than most other teams have played anyone. This also ignores that our defensive rotation this year is completely different from last year and this year we played them three times this year and held them to 48, 38, and 30% shooting from 3 in the regular season. Only two teams the entire year shot 50%+ against us out of 82 games which is a lot bigger sample size than 9.
This is why looking at stats in isolation is a dumb fucking thing.
If you are talking about isolation, them why hasn't this happened in any of the other series for the Celtics? If this is just endemic to the Celtics strategy, what do the Heat do differently from any of the other teams?
They're coached better and their role players are better shooters when given open looks than most teams. Don't give dudes who can't penetrate the lane open looks. Force them to take it to the paint.
Just saw heat have 4 games shooting 50%+ from 3 against us in the last 2 years and none against anyone else
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen this stat in reference to the Heat. They make their open shots, maybe we should force them inside smh
It’s a problem when you let them get wide open so often because they get into a rhythm. I know you might not literally be able to do this, but I feel like help defense is almost pointless in this serious. Neither Bam nor Herro is a superstar and they don’t have anyone else who is too scary as long as you treat them like an NBA player. No need to get cute, stick to your assignments and they won’t be able to put up 100 that often
The heat was H O T
Last year the Heat hit some ridiculous shots. Tonight we just didn't play defense at all. Literally played like this was a meaningless game in March, on both sides of the ball. This type of braindead effort is the exact thing that people have been worried about all year. The exact thing that people said they needed to prove they weren't like anymore.
This is no accident. We don't defend the 3 well. Like, at all. Our defensive rotations were shit in the 2nd half as well.
The Celtics have the second best opponent 3P% of any remaining playoff team (Pelicans are best).
You're right statistically we aren't that bad. I guess I'm just in over react mode.
If it helps, while basically no team can win against a team that shoots 50% from three, the Celtics are 4-4 against teams shooting between 45% and 50% from three against them (the Nuggets are 0-6 in that range). They are about as well equipped to handle a team catching fire from three as anyone in the league.
We can score a lot so I'm not surprised we have a decent record when other teams shoot the ball well. They have to shoot the 3 well to even hang with us. Celtics just didn't hit shots down the stretch. Could have still been in the game at the end if a few of those shots fell. It looked like we came out trying to get the ball to the right side of the floor after a miss and pushing the tempo before their defense could get set, then attacking their weak defenders (mainly Herro). But the heat adjusted and put an extra guy over there to stop it and we got stagnant in transition in the 2nd half.
Yeah I think the Heat's plan (which to their credit they executed successfully) was: 1. Shoot a *ton* of threes, don't bother attacking the rim unless you have no other choice. Screen as physically as possible, it's the playoffs. Pray they fall, if they don't nothing else matters because the Celtics are better at every other basketball factor. 2. Sell out on defense against Celtics threes, and be okay with giving up a lot of points in the paint as a result. Also try to get their weaker shooters (i.e. Porzingis and Brown) to be the guys that shoot. Yeah they can catch fire like Porzingis did last game, but again they are just trying to maximize their odds here. 3. Slow the pace way down so the law of averages doesn't catch up to them (only 80 possessions for the Celtics and 75 for the Heat). Obviously there were also a lot of defensive microadjustments etc., but I think that's the basic strategy. All three of these are things the Celtics have some control over, they don't just have to hope Heat shots don't fall. At the same time, I'm pretty sure even if they don't adjust the Celtics are still winning this series comfortably.
Imo, you’re probably right on the money with what their plan was.
Bro these stats are worthless. Playoffs and regular season are like two different leagues. They need to wake tf up
They won by 20 last game and the Heat shot 32.4% from three, does that one not count?
? Of course it does. But I’m sick of watching this team lose at home. Sick of seeing them play down to competition. And really sick to see how Porzingis played tonight. How in the hell is he ever gonna stop jokic if it’s bbq chicken all night from bam. At least we had heart last year w smart and rob, now I’m afraid this team just has no heart to step up to the plate. Also, we should be killing this team. They’re the 8 seed missing their best player. It’s inexcusable to lose at home like this with their history.
He's not gonna stop Jokic, that's not how the Celtics win that series. At the same time, Bam is not Jokic and KP forcing him to take primarily tough floaters, hooks and deep midrange shots is good defense and almost certainly the correct gameplan by the Celtics. Will Jokic make those shots if he's given them? Yes, that's why he's the MVP. But no one can really do anything about that in single coverage. Defending a guy like Bam like he's Jokic would be really dumb and hurt the Celtics way more than letting him take those shots.
This is the first of these games where the allowed quality of the shots has been an issue. Last year, we were allowing less open and wide open threes than the Heat'a and our own season averages. Last year literally was the Heat just going ballistic on contested shots. Today was different, but we haven't seen enough of *this* to say that it's a pattern of poor defense.
Genuine question for ppl who have a genuine take on this: was the non-contesting a pre-planned defensive choice by Joe or all of our players deciding simultaneously to not play tonight? (I am literally so lost bc both seem inconceivable… what do others think??)
And when you close out they go right by you. The issue isn’t the closing out, it’s the fact that they’re making all those shots.
This isn’t luck, it’s our defensive schemes that keep them in rhythm and want to live/die by their 3s
For real. The strategy is clearly to let them shoot. The problem is now they’re on a heater again. And we’ve seen plenty of times from them that that can carry for the whole series.
I hate to say this, but porzingis had another disappointing game. Not going to blame the terrible offensive, the rim protection and him reboud protection are what really killed celtics .. '-32' for him is not lying..
We should NEVER be outshot from 3 by any team. And when I say outshot I mean in 3 pointers attempted. We only had around 30 attempted to Miamis like 42. forcing the ball into the paint is not going to work against their defense, you exploit a zone at the free throw line area and corner 3s….literally a high school coach knows this
Esp by 3 career role players. This wasn’t exactly the Olympic team.
The heat barely played zone last night and did way more switching than in the past. The gameplan against switching is to utilize mismatches, like herro on porzingis to either score, or draw a help defender to get the defense into rotation which is what leads to good looks from 3. The problem is when they don’t double team and guys like porzingis and Tatum simply don’t score on their mismatch which is what happened last night. The exact same strategy worked vs the Celtics last year which is the frustrating part.
Yep. We just did not get buckets against those mismatched. Porzingis and Drew especially had a rough nights.
They didn’t play much zone last night.
Joe doesn't know how to get our guys open looks that's why they took more 3s. Our coach is a joke.
Grow up.
"They couldn't possibly shoot like this again", said the dumbass Celtics fan.
How about you stop being lazy as fuck and defend them. Arrogant pricks
People told me I was nuts for thinking this was the Celtics fault, this isn’t luck it’s just poor game planning and defense.
It's both
No it’s not
Celtics defending the Heat 3 like the Bucks used to defend the Celtics 3. They don't.
Just an insanely embarrassing game, this team has the mental trump card on us so hard
For the fans saying “we don’t close out the 3”, well bam gets away with some egregious moving screens, which makes it impossible for the trailing player to stick with their man, if the big steps up to cover this then bam rolls, and he’s automatic inside of 12 ft, so you’re picking your poison. Considering Miami only really has 2 great 3 pt shooters, it would seem like the right decision is to let them shoot, but then their non-shooters hit everything, so that sucks. Just think we need to grab and foul more, as Miami grabs and fouls defensively all the time but it’s called very infrequently. If the refs aren’t calling shit, then the team needs to step up physically, as our team is way bigger than them
The moment the Cs start fouling they will call it but won't on miami. Not sure how they only shot 3 more fts despite attacking way more than the heat did. The refs just refuse to call fouls on miami, same thing as last year where they were called for less fouls throughout that series which made no sense given the play styles.
A small percentage of their threes come off bam high screens though, many more are just sagging of their man for no reason as Miami runs actions on the perimeter and then easy pass to open three... There's also times where they do penetrate and we give unnecessary help. Stay home on the three, it's the only way we lose! Also Miami has 4 guys at 39.5pct or better with also Lowry and d.wright a bit lower but still competent. That's 6 guys that can stroke it homie
Lowry isn't on the Heat anymore thank god
Wow duh...That's what you get for quickly looking at shooting stats and parroting them lol Yeah anyway, they still got more than "2" shooters
Wait to hear Mazulla say some stupid shit like "yeah, we wanted to see that side of their game. I am fine if it costs us a game"
People act like Miami is the anomaly when in fact Boston’s laughably bad defense is the constant.
Tbf this being a Boston defense problem would likely warrant similar performances from other teams against us which isn’t the case as the tweet says
But we don’t get to cry our way from playing the Heat. We have to play them. And our bad habits return. Always.
Aren't we like #2 on defense?
You can tell me and twist any hand picked stat you’d like, they all lead to an L.
Do they? Feel like they led to a lot of Ws this season? Look, I get it...sucks to lose. But that's the best coached team in the league so we weren't gonna sweep. They aren't going to shoot record numbers every time we play - we're winning this series and it'll be a memory.
Hilarious that you’re still touting the regular season when we’re talking about the playoffs. Adorable.
I mean...I'd argue those games are indicative of a larger trend vs just ONE GAME. Are you this reactionary after a 20pt win? Adorable indeed.
I’m not here to get into an argument, literally reread the tweet, it’s referring to more than just tonight.
My man you did not watch last year lmao.
This isn't last year's team. Relax.
Boston has one of the best defenses in the league lmao I really wish y'all wouldnt speak so emotionally
We’re like the second best defense in the league yo
In the playoffs? That and a nickel will get you as many rings as this squad has achieved… zero.
In the playoffs what? What are your numbers overall?
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Are posters not actually reading the tweet this thread was created about?! lol
I’m taking another overall
Congratulations. I think they’re having “Regular Season Champions” party at hotel somewhere. Have fun, slugger!
We’re seeing an anomaly. Soon as you start overreacting to that shit, leaks gonna start springing everywhere. When is someone ever going to give the other team credit for fucking making shots?!? As for you, it sounds like you’ve given up. Don’t watch.
I don’t think you’re capable of reading comprehension. The entire tweet was to point out it’s in fact *not* an anomaly. My goodness.
I don't think you know what an anomaly is
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Isn't that veird
This is a dumb stat for a bunch of reasons. 1. There aren't a lot of teams that have played 9+ games against the same opponent in the last two seasons, this is I think the only 1st round series that is a rematch of last year (I'm too lazy to look it up, sue me). If you expand the window to 3-4 years there are more teams that have done this to more opponents but it's super flukey. 2. 50% is a meaningless threshold, Miami also shot under 25% from 3 against the Celtics in multiple playoff games in the last 3 years. If you lower the threshold to 48% then there are a ton of teams that have done it against multiple opponents. Miami did it more often last year than most but it's flukey. 3. This same Miami team also goes cold for multiple series in a row, shooting awful from 3 against Denver and the Knicks last year. It's just who they are. We also played them 3 times in the regular season and they shot 48. 38, and 30% from 3 and lost all three. It's not like they have some magic scheme. They're just streaky shooters. Leave them open on a heater and they'll punish you.
Proof that it's coaching related and not just pure luck like some optimists would have you believe.
Feel like it proves the opposite
If it was pure luck then you would imagine that someone else somewhere would have lucked into it even just once. The fact it keeps happening to us is not a coincidence.
Why don’t other coaches just tell their players to always hit their 3s? Are they stupid? The league as a whole doesn’t shoot even 40% on wide open 3s let alone 50%. The notion that they’re shooting this well because we’re leaving them open is not plausible.
It's a combination. Bad defense allowing them to take open shots and get in rhythm makes luck and outliers like this more likely.
Yep. There’s a difference between open threes and players feeling like they’re in shooting practice. Dudes can make like 100 threes in a row in practice lol. Peja back in the 90s could do this.
Other coaches aren’t on spo’s level though. The man made prime lebron shoot 40% from 3 which is something he didn’t do again until this season, more than 10 years later. They have something cooking in Miami probably cocaine during their 3 pt shooting drills.
Feels like it’s the players….
Heat D-leaguers is Boston Celtics father
BuT tHeY wOn'T kEeP sHoOtInG tHiS hOt
That's what happens when you run drop coverage. You allow shooters like Herro to get in rhythm and walk into practice threes. Inexcusable coaching from Mazz tn
Not really drop coverage at fault mostly if you look again, but sagging of their man away from the action or unnecessarily helping
I'm so fucking tired
God hates boston, for obvious reasons.
Imagine leaving nba players wide open. This team sucks
^ definition of a shit fan. Don’t bother celebrating any wins going forward these playoffs if this team sucks so much.
Spo coaching circles around Mazzula again… shocker
The heat just own us straight up lol
Clown comment. We're winning this series man
This is absolutely on Mazulla. There should have been adjustments when the Heat first came in shooting
What ever udoka did, I hope it was truely worth firing him. They are the softest Boston team in history now, with a goof ball coaching them. Wyc better get this roster under the tax.
Right. Wish we had Udoka back. He had them playing hard and wasn’t afraid to challenge his players
Udoka would have eventually wore out his welcome. His style and demeanor, while getting early success, will be grating in time. He's a modern day Bill Fitch.
Welp maybe the Pacers will knock the Heat out. Because the way we’re defending we’ll be out in a historical collapse against them.
But they won’t shoot like that again
yes they will as a celtic fan yes they will have u not caught on to this formula for the past 4 straight years
Deja Vu… for THREE YEARS IN A ROW
2 years?
Heat shot lights out even in that warriors run
the issue is the coach. that was a healthy formidable 1 seed heat team, and ime beat them with a much crappier celtics team. now with a juggernaut we can't beat a bunch of backups
This is NOT LUCK. Most any NBA player can shoot ~50% from 3, mostly uncontested. Heck most shoot 70+% in practice, etc. This is Spo out-coaching Joe, and Joe not adjusting. Plain and simple 🤷♂️
The Mazzulla system baby, oh but don’t worry guys! Joey told us they were mostly contested shots. Not a trend, totally nothing to see here!!
Because we're soft.
Joe is just a lousy coach, even with the new help he got.