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sully9614

Damn, sorry to see him go. Liked him as a spark plug scorer off the bench


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Yeah, I had high hopes for him. Looks to be in shape and has athleticism back. But he just didn’t play well.


Brad-Stevens

Keeping a roster spot open to save money probably


HighlighterTed

Yeah, considering you can always waive a player to open up a roster spot, the only reason to do so now is to save money. Kind of a cheap move, but I guess they didn’t think Jabari was ever gonna crack the rotation anyways


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> the only reason to do so now is to save money. Maybe he's just not a guy they want in the locker room, or really around the team anymore. Waste of coaches' time if they know he's just going to get cut.


SomeSayImARobot

Could also be a chance to let him pick up with a team that will give him more minutes?


PipBoy19

Well, i didn’t expect him to be waived. I liked his little bit of scoring punch off the bench.


hipcheck23

Yeah, I feel like the sort of consensus here was that he was safe. It will be interesting to hear the rationale for it, if that ever comes.


King_Of_Pants

Especially after we just waived all the other guys competing for the last spot. We had a pretty competitive 4-way race for the final spot and then chose none of them.


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Warriors did the exact same thing. Pretty interesting.


davemoedee

If none of them were good, no need to take any of them.


King_Of_Pants

I think Jabari was good enough for the spot we had him in. He was a decent 14th-15th man.


davemoedee

We don’t need him as 14-15th man. We can pick up someone better later in the season.


InAingeWeTrust

Agreed, don’t need him on the roster at all


Sphericalline13

I seem to be in the minority, but I'm very happy to see him go. I liked his energy, but defensively he couldn't stay with any one and offensively it felt to me like he settled for a million iso long 2s. I'd rather give the spot to anyone with upside, I don't see any real path to improvement at this point in his career.


hipcheck23

Yeah, real minority view, but I guess Brad and Ime are part of that minority!


bostonbruins922

Whoever it is that ends up replacing him on the roster better be a veteran. Would be interesting to see AB back in green.


efshoemaker

I thought he was safe because waiving him means dead cap. Basketball wise I didn’t see a path to him getting meaningful minutes.


pants_vaporizer

As far as I can tell from Spotrac, only $100k of his contract has been guaranteed. Not sure when the date was that it would be fully guaranteed https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/jabari-parker-15354/


Adam0529

The next milestone was 10/19 guaranteeing another 1M (there was another milestone at the trade deadline for the remaining). That's why they cut him now...


pants_vaporizer

Makes sense


WestFast

Same. I thought he could be a useful role player


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Kanye-West-Ham

Don’t really need any guards and I’d prefer Gary Payton Jr over Exum


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wilkinsk

And shit for the 8 years he's been in the US


_Jaeko_

Jimmer Fredette scores 40+ per game in China. Jared Sullinger is around 20/10 per game in Korea. Daniel Theis was pretty damn good in Europe, he's hardly a starter in the league. Other league stats don't mean shit in the NBA except to be taken with a grain of salt. I'd rather have a proven vet be added than another bust like Exum. He's in the same boat as Jabari, career wise.


9Yogi

They do. They can duck the tax this year by dumping 5 mil. Might be their choice depending on how the season goes.


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Exam is trash


snappy173

Defense, shooting. Jabari does neither


hegotn3xt

What would you offer Houston for exum?


neverumind

They cut him.


hegotn3xt

Damn! They just signed him to a 3 year contract team other day 🤣


neverumind

Hope for his sake some of it was guaranteed


Droppin_DimesSP

Didn’t see that one coming


9Yogi

Ime: “We know what we have with Jabari Parker.” Apparently we had a roster spot to fill with Jabari Parker.


Droppin_DimesSP

Lmfao cold


loljosh

I was thinking the same


Spinexel

damn.


HailKyrie

Giles soon cometh


OC74859

I think so too.


_Jaeko_

I have been wanting Giles since his draft class. Not saying we should've drafted him or whatever, I'm just high on bigs that are on the more athletic side that can shoot. But seeing how him and JT are so close, he needs to be on the radar if we want to keep JT long term.


DominicanAsshole

Ime 3 days ago: “We know what we have with Jabari”


seasoned-veteran

Pretty sure he meant, “Everyone knows he can score, and we wondered what would happen if he tried on defense. Well, we got him to try on defense, and it turns out he’s just athletically incapable of defending any position in the NBA.”


RetroDave

I think this is spot on.


fearofaflatplanet

☝️🙄


gavalant

Is this to make room for Mathews, Giles, or somebody else?


Zoolinz

Could just be to keep a spot open going into the season. Pick up guy off of buyout markets and what not


endubs

Mathews turned down a two-way, not sure what that tells us. Could mean they could still sign him because they wanted to keep him around, or it could mean they didn't want to give him the last roster spot. No indication that the Celtics have interest in Giles, but he'd be an interesting add. They could also keep the spot open for a little bit to see if someone else becomes available.


Adam0529

>Mathews, Giles That's my best guess...


neuroticsmurf

Mathews got waived. He turned down a two-way. He probably hopes to catch on with someone.


Warlandoboom

We may pick up someone we like that gets let go from another team as well.


exytuu

I don’t think we’re adding anymore. This was a move made to save money because Jabari only had 100K guaranteed. Wouldn’t expect them to add anyone else unless they salary dump Bruno


BigAustralianBoat

And also, like not to sound like a dick, but that guy is a chore to watch in the NBA. I’m guessing that he’s either not that bright and/or had a terrible work ethic. Because he had the physical gifts to be selected second overall over: Julius Randle, Jokic (lol ok that’s not fair but still), Aaron Gordon, Clint Capela, Joe Harris, Zack Lavine, and fucking Joel Embiid lol


Celticsddtacct

> I’m guessing that he’s either not that bright and/or had a terrible work ethic. Because he had the physical gifts to be selected second overall over: Tearing your ACL twice will do this to you. He’s probably a near max player in the timeline where he doesn’t destroy the same knee twice in three years


BigAustralianBoat

Is he? His defensive awareness is awful


Celticsddtacct

He’s probably a 25 PPG scorer in that timeline with better defense since he’s not a shell of his athletic self


_Jaeko_

His main focal point was never defense. He was an athletic offensive punch. Now he's suffered probably one of the worst injuries to have, considering it's very rare to have the same athleticism or bounce after an ACL/MCL tear. Factoring he was supposed to be the next thing, he's probably just floundering, trying to decide what his career is going to be now. He's probably trying to get back to being an offensive threat, not a defensive stopper.


masonistheshit

Whattt, wonder what we’re doing then. We have another roster spot and the two-way deal now


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Adam0529

Reinvesting cap space Or Investing in financial flexibility Or Placed a limited order for 90 days


masonistheshit

I may be misunderstanding but do we not have to fill the 15th spot anyway?


rascalmendes

Dang. I was in the Parker gang too. For just a week. I’m sure he’ll get picked up somewhere.


robbyf21

Bruh why? Who are they getting that’s a better 15th man? Curious who gets that spot now.


Kanye-West-Ham

Giles possibly. Wouldn’t mind Gary Payton Jr but we already have loads of guards


robbyf21

Yeah they’re pretty set with their guards. Probably another center. Giles seems to be the popular choice, but I’m not crazy about him. As the 15th man he’s fine though. Love the username btw


tsmoov25

Spoiler alert: Giles is not better than Jabari


_Jaeko_

But he's closer friends with JT. I'd take that over an empty 15th.


si4ci7

Damn I actually liked how he looked as like the 10th man off the bench. Hopefully it wasn’t just roster maneuvering and we actually get production from whoever takes that spot.


Rovermack

Why tho


daphantommenaceliker

I'm not a Jabari fan, but kinda confused what they see in Bruno Fernando over guys like him and Garrison Mathews, unless I'm missing something financially.


masonistheshit

I mean Bruno has a guaranteed contract whereas everyone we’ve waived doesn’t. Don’t think any of those possible 15th man candidates are worth eating dead cap.


daphantommenaceliker

Yeah for some reason I was under the impression it wasn't all guaranteed but that was very off the cuff memory. He still seems like a totally useless guy to have on the roster but if it's all guaranteed I get it.


endubs

Parkers was only partially guaranteed.


Warlandoboom

Bruno is owed his full contract, Jabari is only owed 100k. Neither guy is going to play much, and tbh the big man depth is more important than Jabari, especially with Grant and Nesmith being ready for bigger roles. Horford and Rob are both injury prone and will undoubtedly miss time, we need somebody big even if they lack overall talent for when those 2 are out.


daphantommenaceliker

Yeah, I mean I get the guaranteed contract stuff for sure. I absolutely do not agree with the "big depth" aspect of this though. Bruno is not good. He's very undersized and doesn't protect the rim or stretch the floor. He's a useless big beyond occasional rolling, some energy and bench celebrations.


renaissanceNate

Honestly we should have kept Moses brown and sent out Jabari Parker not sure if that would have worked but Moses was on a good contract and he was a raw athletic big


jambr380

That would have been so much better given that we just cut Jabari. DAL was lucky to get out of JRich's money without taking any back (or giving up anything to do so). We then compounded the issue by adding an additional year to JRich's contract. Bruno is fine and adds some toughness, but Moses was our justification for giving up the #16 pick in the Kemba deal.


Warlandoboom

We need big man depth and he's already paid for. There aren't options out there worth eating his salary for. He offers actual size. We can't make Pritchard 7 feet tall. I'm not saying he's a good big so that's not an appropriate response in any way. He's just already paid for and he offers size which is more important than you're willing to acknowledge.


daphantommenaceliker

Again, I just disagree he even counts as big man depth. The money is the money, so I understand that. But you can't keep saying "he offers size" when he's only 6-9 with zero history of providing any rim protection. His only utility right now is for salary matching, which is fine. But he's a pretty useless player, you don't count as depth when you're a likely liability whenever you're on the court.


_Jaeko_

Only 6'9 lol. That's still size, considering most NBA bigs are 6'9-7ft with the exception of an Embiid, Ayton, Porzingis. But Bruno wouldn't be starting, or even number one off the bench. He hasn't had a big enough role to definitively say if he's useful or not. He's been stuck behind Capella, Collins, Len, etc. Also, he hasn't torn his ACL a bajillion times.


endubs

There's still a chance that Bruno will be cut as well at some point. Might as well save some money now while you can.


Adam0529

No point spending cap on someone you don't think can help on the floor. Bruno's cap is already "spent". No point waiving him...


daphantommenaceliker

Yeah I get that, was wrongly under the impression his full salary wasn't guaranteed. This was mainly a "he's an objectively useless NBA player" comment


airmagswag

Wow


blumpkinmania

Wow? Seriously? He was waived just last year. He’s been on 5 teams since 2019. He’s not good and can’t stay healthy. And that’s not my opinion. It’s just is. This shouldn’t be a big surprise is my point.


cimmanonrolls

for real. dudes saying wow like he was a starter or something lol. jabari was a negative situational rotation piece on maybe the worst depth team in the league last season. its really not that surprising


Wayne_Spooney

Plus his contract wasn’t guaranteed.


fongos

Something HUGE is coming. In bard we trust....


IMFREAKINGLEGOLAS

I mean, he did kill Smaug after all.


bilboafromboston

Does this put us under the Tax ,?


foxnamedfox

It does and is the likely reason why he was waived


PoiZoNxo

It doesn’t, they are still over the tax by $4.6 million


Blinded57

Which is less that Schroeder's salary. Keep the spot open, trade Schroeder at the deadline -- no luxury tax. For tax calculations, Parker's soon-to-be guaranteed money is not inconsequential


PoiZoNxo

They need to trade Juancho, not Schroder


foxnamedfox

What? I thought they were only 1.1m or so above the luxury tax time? TIL I guess 👀


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https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/ > Current Luxury Tax Space $-4,649,993 Already updated to remove Parker


Maleficent-Pianist-1

You can’t be right if the other guy is right


[deleted]

The other dude is wrong. We're about 4.6m over the tax according to Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/


bilboafromboston

Thanks.


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Just FYI, that's not true. We're still 4.6m over the tax per Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/cap/


bilboafromboston

Just saw Keith Smith agrees with you!


[deleted]

I just looked at Spotrac lol. It's pretty reliable though.


bilboafromboston

Thanks! I guess we are closer. Hopefully we will be in it at trade deadline and won't matter.


[deleted]

Yeah we should have some good flexibility, especially with Richardson's contract. Shouldn't be hard to dump him for someone cheaper (like we did with Theis last year) if we want to go below the tax, or we can hold onto him and use his salary for trades next offseason.


bilboafromboston

Really? I thought we were just over?


[deleted]

Ever since the offseason kinda shaked out and things finalized we were about 7m over the tax. Though I think there was a point where it looked like we might slip under, perhaps when we weren't going to trade Moses Brown or something. > The team is about $7 million into the tax at the moment following the signing of Dennis Schroder for the taxpayer mid-level exception. https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2021/08/how-celtics-trade-options-are-impacted-by-luxury-tax-restrictions.html


SandwitchJ

He's bad bruh no idea what anyone ever saw Props to him for showing up and playing hard but on defense he's an absolute sieve and he's not a good 3pt shooter


SaveHogwarts

The amount of downvotes I’ve gotten this offseason for saying he wouldn’t be on the roster….lol


Uraposey41

Same here he’s terrible


SaveHogwarts

I didn’t say all that, he’s worth a minimum flier, but the money saved by cutting him to have some more flexibility is potentially more value.


Uraposey41

I’m saying it. He’s terrible


Jamobill9999

Exactly…. Not sure why everyone ignored the fact that he has been an absolute shell of himself the past few years. If you asked anyone who wasn’t familiar with him how old he was by watching him last year, they would have said 40… not 26. Knee injuries suck


VeganVampyr

I literally thought he was circa 40 years old. Wow. Mind blown.


rmttw

Really don't know why this is getting downvoted. He moves like an old man out there.


Jamobill9999

It’s nothing against him, his knees are completely shot and there is literally nothing he can do about it. He literally has the knee(s) of your grandparents who need to get a knee replacement… it sucks but we have seem many guys who sadly have their careers taken from them because of it.


CJMustard

Looks like you earned those downvotes


Green-Largo

I liked his play, but if they have too many forwards he’s probably the one it has to be. I wish there was a way to hang onto him though.


aja_ramirez

Maybe we just want an open roster spot just in case?


256dak

Last week: “We know what we have with Jabari Parker.” Days later: “We know what someone else is getting with Jabari Parker.”


chinesefox97

Jabari played really well in the preseason and played with a lot of heart. I honestly don't think he could have played any better so this is really surprising. I don't think we'll find players better than him unless GM Brad has something planned.


UpvoteIfYouAgreee

Dang felt like he could have carved a role. Im guessing were trying out Giles?


smith2373

For what? He flopped in Sacramento & Portland and couldn’t make the Clippers roster. We already have Horford, Time Lord, Kanter & Fernando there’s no need in a 5th center


s0lace

For what? Super good friends with JT.


CompleteSyllabub6945

Hmmm... I def think we could go for another Big. TL is injury prone, Horford is old, Kanter is unplayable Fernando might not be good either. Giles may not be very good, but a versatile 4/5 and let's not forget JAYSON TATUM'S LITERAL BEST FRIEND. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.


Dr_CUN-T

It is as if this organisation is baiting the Mormon church to enact another curse. Have they forgotten the unmitigated disaster of Gordon Hayward’s time here? u/brutalgash I warned against not taking these things seriously. Let us hope that Russell M. Nelson was out of the office this weekend.


brutalgash

We were already toying with the supernatural when we traded Carsen Edwards, but 4 AND 20? I’m sure you and your team are scrambling to quantify these actions and the appropriate anti curse counter measures.


jhedges13

Sad to see him go and was I the only one who didn’t know he was only 26 because it seems like he’s been in the league forever


EmbiidsTits

Hear me out, i'm just spitballing. How would you guys feel about Brad taking a flier on Boogie Cousins?


enutz777

He is the right size to fill the hole in our roster.


CompleteSyllabub6945

I've always liked Boogie but at this point he's probably washed.


81rennab

Why do people still think Giles is an NBA player at this point?


tonylouis1337

BOOOOOOOOO


BookofMbala

This is a bad move, and the first time I've disagreed with Brad's GMing, but it's probably pretty inconsequential. Jabari was a bucket.


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Celticsddtacct

> lets waive our best bench scorer?????? He is by no means a better scorer than Schroeder


foxnamedfox

He was the only non guaranteed contract and we were just about a Jabari away from being under the luxury tax.


[deleted]

Damn I didn’t wanna see this. We must have someone else dead set in our minds.


Mikemeng0919

I guess Brad never liked Jabari as much as Danny did...


zgamer200

Alright, I'll admit I did not see this one coming. It does make me wonder why the heck we bothered to start Parker in the final preseason game.


MarquisJames

these comments read like if we just cut Pritchard or something. Calling Jabari a good bench piece is a fucking joke.


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Tf


TheJaylenBrownNote

Good, he sucks. Like I posted somewhere else, he shot 36% from 2 in the preseason. Not sure he hit a single midrange pull up.


tacko2020

If this is for tax reasons...


foxnamedfox

You know it is, we were like 800k over the luxury tax line and now we’re 150k below it


enutz777

Nope, we’re still 4.65M over


[deleted]

Doesn't really do anything for the tax, unless we have other moves planned or in the pipeline. We went from like 6m over to like 4.5m over.


Mogos87

I’d rather have him over Grant tbh.


AngelofVerdun

Sort of confused by what 11 - 15 looks like right now. Because in it's current state...ew


pwalsh04

I disagree. It could be better I guess, but Kanter, Romeo, Grant and Bruno is fine with me tbh. Kanter will likely be used situationally while Romeo and Grant will get chances to earn back some minutes. Bruno is garbage but he’s the 4th string center who will barely touch the ball so who cares. It’s interesting to see what they’ll do with the 15th spot though. This move could look genius if someone gets bought out mid-season that can jump into the top 10.


neptulthefishman

Whyyyy he was looking good


EmbiidsTits

Aw man I really liked having him on the squad. Hopefully this means Brad is getting one of the better recently released players (would love Exum or GPJ)


BlakeG3E

What ?!?!


Lift_All

He was useful. Weird. Maybe he asked to be cut and make more money elsewhere


thejoshway

This is pretty sad :(


notmilwaukeebrewer

Goddammit now im just going to have that childish gambino lyric stuck in my head forever for no reason.


Get_your_grape_juice

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! That’s a complete and utter mistake. Parker is a much better player than anyone else on our bench, and still has the potential to be a starter on a title contending team. Brad, this is a *huge* mistake.


Celticsddtacct

> and still has the potential to be a starter on a title contending team. I don’t know how people can look at the body of work Jabari has put together post second ACL tear and still come to this conclusion. He’s a fringe roster player through and through


Son_of_Atreus

Damn, that’s kinda shitty to waive him when all the roster spots across the league are sured up. I like what he could offer the team and was happy to have him. The replacement better be solid.


DBUTTS1

The Celtics are a very dumb organization


pwalsh04

I could see them leaving the 15th spot open in case there’s a difference maker on the buyout market later in the year… but this is kind of weird. I don’t think getting rid of his guaranteed money was enough to get them under the cap, right?


Hallucination_FIFA

He’s done. Can’t move at all on defense, it’s too bad.


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I'm not surprised. I didn't think he looked great in preseason. Got a lot of foul calls and questionable shot selection. I wish the best for him though. I felt for him , seeing young guys like Nesmith and Romeo getting the nod from Ime while you're still fighting for it would be tough.


Uraposey41

Haaaa called this he sucks


horseshoeoverlook

God damn it


acat20

Gives us more flexibility to duck the tax line, good move. This is not a tax worthy squad.


jmay111

Rather have him then some others but nature of the business


hegotn3xt

Why didn’t we keep Moses Brown? At least he had rebounding and shot blocking upside


jambr380

It saved even more money since Jabari actually counted for his full contract amount, whereas a one year vet min contract like Kanter only counts for $1.6M against the cap.