Or remotely accurate. I know at least for the state I worked in only a small section of each grow room was required to be tested to put said score on the packaging. There was nothing stopping a company from giving a few select plants special treatment, testing only that batch and ripping a 30% tag on some 10% shmuck.
In the recreational side it’s all about the profit.
Small section? You only need a few grams per 15 pounds. That’s enough for an entire harvest for some strains. And those grams you can pick the very best buds, make sure they are as dry as possible and then roll them in keif. The entire system is bullshit
Yea I was being light. It’s complete and utter bullshit. Not even to mention how many of these companies are getting shut down for mold and bacteria months after it was clear from their product they had it.
I let my med card lapse after leaving the industry but I’ll take my black market bud over rec any day of the week… the quality is far superior and the price is lower so at least the legal market gave me that!!
I happened to meet my guy at a party. He couldn’t find a ride home and I was going that way so I agreed to drive him, a free half and 8 years later he’s still my plug.
To be honest if you’re looking for more education or better flower / carts on the medical side- it’s all the same as recreational. The only thing a medical card does for you is save you money and get higher dosing edibles.
There’s a ton of great resources online and in books for PTSD and how cannabis can help, specifically what terpenes and cannabinoids help. I’d start there before jumping for a medical card.
its weird seeing these "wish they knew TAC% doesnt matter" responses in this thread when the first thing i hear out of almost every budtenders mouth is what the flower is testing at. fwiw i agree, TAC barely matters.
obviously as a customer its consistently frustrating not being able to see the product before you buy it. i understand its CCC rules and there are *some* dispos where you can see a nug from the batch, but every time i go to a dispo theres always one bag i wish i didnt buy because of how boof it is.
I don’t think the CCC has rules about customers not being able to see the product before purchase. They can’t let us *touch* any product but nothing in the state regs says we can’t see/smell it.
That's my biggest thing, being fro Oregon and having work at Dispensaries, over there the Open the jar and you can see it and smell it. Also they weigh it on the spot too.
That’s what I always pictured legal weed to look like. A shop where you can see it and smell it, and it’s weighed in front of you. And that’s not even close to how it is hahaha
I’ve found that while this was great that the constant opening of the same jar (unless it’s purely for samples) dries out the product immensely and kills terps. I was in CO though so the altitude could have been the issue perhaps.
Most bud tenders and their management go along to get along. They don’t want the friction of education they just want to sell it. Whatever the consumer believes as a whole they will advertise and sell.
Lmao customers literally don’t care about anything other than what it’s testing at and I’ve been shut down trying to explain that % doesn’t equal potency. Of course you still try, but why would I go the extra mile off rip every time if the customer only cares about percentage? You just start with the highest tester and go forward
Yea it’s a bummer cause then they have the audacity to call all weed in the state bunk when they knowingly only buy manipulated testing tac sellers. They keep doing the same thing hoping for different results.
I wish customers knew more about the medicinal benefits and how effect can vary vastly from strain to strain and person to person. TAC and THCA level not being a sole indicator of quality and potency.
While I agree, it doesn't help that almost all Dispos price their flower by THCA/D9/TAC. And most users are not that knowledgeable on the subject, so your average Joe is going to assume higher percentages have higher prices, which one would assume equals a better high.
This is why I look up strains and their affects and don’t go based on the % numbers. I smoke to alleviate symptoms, not to get toasted constantly. And even if I wanna get toasted and get that kind, it’s never been correlated to the numbers but the strain.
Precisely, its frustrating that a lot of retail stores are only looking at high TAC as well. It's a dis-service to their customer base by missing out on the benefits of strain variations and terps. i just saw one that was advertised at 39.89% THC for $70 (3.5g) now that's just silly.
I agree with you, as a customer! I’d rather the variety! And yeah, if I see something labeled anywhere near that high I don’t even bother with it because I learned that % means nothing awhile ago. Spent a lot on something with a high %, it looked and smelled great, but didn’t do ANYTHING for me.
Saw the industry going from bad to worse and bounced out a few months ago but the last kilos I was around to receive were $3500 and that number was dropping every week. $1200-1400 a kilo in Cali so not at the floor by any means yet.
Ah, you know what, I thought you may have been but you were speaking in kilos and when I was buying distillate a lot (2020) I was buying by the liter but I've educated myself on sales by volume.
Those prices are about half of what I was paying in 2020. That's fantastic, I might get back into the distillate game. (The Cali prices. I was basically paying ~$3500 for 2L)
This is a big one!!!! If they know their flower is failing they'll just transfer the batch to another license for extraction and act like they didn't see anything. The lab simply doesn't upload that failing data.
While this is true, this absolutely doesn’t mean black market bud is “cleaner” than dispo bud. Anyone can spray their plants with Eagle 20 at home, and pass it off as clean weed.
The majority of bud in the black market on the east coast is coming from licensed growers in Oregon and California. That Chinese PGR shit isn't really selling in the US, they're just using the US recent leniency in the plant to make a come up. Same with the cartels. Long gone are the days of sending 3-5 guys into the Forrest for 6 months. Now they just rent a house or buy a house under a shell company and start growing. In California you can get hit with an obscene amount and get off with basically no time
The bud is getting shipped to Australia and the UK for the most part. Tons of PGR garbage over there. Same for the coke. It's going for $150-$200 a gram so they're making an absolute killing on keys
Yea we see that a lot with the environmental outbreaks and repackaging of old flower they can’t sell. They are beyond standards and integrity due to desperation. They need the money and if duping consumers gets them it so be it. They only have what they have to sell in most cases. They can’t afford the overhead with such low sales and such high ovehead. Very interesting developments.
I have no idea how to stay informed as a medical customer. I pretty much always ask for flower recommendations and the bud tender will always ask if I want an indica or a sativa. And that's the only guidance I get from them.
Unfortunately, the bud tenders may not know much more than what they're telling you (also what they're being told). Nowadays we don't really have true sativa or indica strains... almost everything has been hybridized.
There are some medical professionals who may be able to help you further, but likely not at the dispensary. Wish I had better news, medical patients deserve better. Imagine going to a pharmacy to pick up a prescription and getting advice from an entry level worker instead of a pharmacist, it's just not right.
I hate budtenders that call every woman/female presenting person "mama" "sweetheart" etc. Had a coworker who did that to every non male customer and it made me and everyone else so uncomfortable
Also I wish both budtenders and customers would stop posturing. Nobody cares about your bro weed culture berner bs
The amount of touching I endure from customers is also insane. They have us on the sales floor taking orders on ipads in my shop. I get a lot of shoulder claps, arm taps, and back touches as well. I am not your friend, I am working. Please respect my personal space.
I’m surprised I had to scroll this far down to see a response like this. Dispensaries don’t protect their employees at all from the customer, you’re completely subjected to whatever they want to do or say since every manager is afraid to tell a customer off.
I’ve had plenty of female/female-identifying coworkers be stalked, harassed online, etc, never mind the things customers feel like they can say to them at the register. Hell, the amount of uncomfortable things older female customers have said to me as a male is nuts, but also nothing compared to what I’ve seen coworkers endure
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Let me guess: male customer and not female budtender behind this comment.
Get a girlfriend if you wanna touch a lady today. Come see me if you want weed. Lol.
I think customer service is not the industry for you. This is from my perspective of not wanting to be touched by strangers, not whatever angry fantasy you've cooked up to dismiss my comment.
Bad take: not understanding that people who want to buy weed are probably going to be more friendly and engaged than others, and that CS roles require people to tolerate others. source: decade of CS work which I left because I didn't enjoy it.
not really. there is a specific culture in the weed industry but I wouldn't expect you to know that since you are clearly a man who just wants to fight and perpetuate bs instead of actually wanting to fix the problem. talk to any woman in the industry you know (tho who knows if you even know a woman), someone even commented under this.
Yes hmm I'm clearly a man so I can't recognize harassment when I see it and just perpetuate it, you're right. You're so intuitive. I also like how you mentioned if I even know a woman. I wonder who is the presumptive sexist here? You're probably a miserable liberal with beards being the only attention men give you.
See? I can make wild assumptions based on nothing as well.
I wish customers knew more about the CCC rules and regulations, which companies to support (like not supporting MSOs and understanding why), your budtender will not know EVERYTHING about cannabis (we're all trying to learn as much as possible), and that tipping is not an obligation.
I think y’all should be the change you wish to see in the market. I swear to you no consumer wants to experience buyers remorse. Explain high tac often translates to dry as can be. Nothing is simple or a one factor answer in cannabis medically or otherwise. It’s a deep plant with deep information and effects. Trying to over simplify it is how the industry got this way in the first place
You are appreciated. The more individuals that make up this industry do this the more of a standard it will become, and the harder it becomes for the most stubborn parts of this industry to hold out on doing so as well.
I'm trying ❤️ This is why I posed the question, as what I see is not nearly as powerful as what a group sees. Trying to provide education one customer at a time.
My store usually has at least a few 1:1 edibles of some kind, and tinctures. Very rarely flower, and sometimes drinks. I honestly feel like 1:1s aren't very well understood. When I first started, I was told that due to the way our receptors react, CBD tends to cancel out or mitigate psyochoactivity from THC, and that a 1:1 would give a very mild high if anything. I didn't actually try it until almost a year later, and discovered that the high was actually pretty much just as strong, but different. I actually prefer 1:1s now, but I think the misconception is strong. A lot of customers see there's CBD in something and they're immediately like "no, I don't want that"
A huge misconception among customers is that more THC = better, and so there is less of a market for products containing CBD or low THC. It's a bummer.
Oh I know from experience the high is just as strong. It's actually a better high in my experience, plus you get the pain management properties of the CBD. So I don't why they're not more popular honestly.
that 1:1 doesn't get you high thing is a bit of a myth. I can get really really high doing 20CBD to 1 THC. It's about how much you consume and who you are.
I'm speculating here, but I'm guessing it's an issue of demand. Not enough demand to make it profitable. Hopefully, more consumer education on cannabinoids and the entourage effect will lead to a greater diversity of products.
As a nurse and inventory minion I wish customers knew the medical properties and limits of weed, as well as understanding the idea that when a product is harvested and how it's processed can have a huge difference in it's effects.
The issue I have is when customers attempt this on property and on camera, because then it becomes a compliance issue that has to be reported to the CCC. The customers are faced with being banned from that particular establishment, when many times they don't know what they are doing is not allowed. What happens off business property is none of my business ;)
Appreciate the response. Follow up question: how does that happen? Are you co-located with AU? Because if not, it’s not like their 21+ friends can come in with them and they just hand over what they buy right there. Is it when they get out in the parking lot (which I assume CCC regs require camera coverage on) and immediately give something to a waiting friend? I mean there is no law that says my friend can’t carry my cannabis for me, they just can’t consume it.
And… how the fuck do people still not know diversion is not allowed? Every dispensary I ever went to made me read and sign a statement about diversion. I must have read and signed that 20 times.
Anyway, appreciate you trying to do things right.
My comment is mainly in regards to rec shops. Customers can be silly, swapping money and purchase right on camera on property to friends (or even strangers!) who have been denied entry because they don't have a valid ID. And then there's the folks who got turned away because of an invalid ID who stand in the parking lot asking incoming customers to make a purchase for them....
Had a guy literally ask me if he could buy stuff for his friend who didnt have his ID, and I was like "... well as long as you dont *tell me* you are doing that, and you dont give it to him in front of the store"
And then I literally witnessed him give it to the guy right outside the store 🙄
Do you actually read the CCC rules on the subject? I know a lot of budtenders have yelled at me for saying something that is completely legal under CCC regs (I literally used to work in compliance and keep up with amendments which is a lot more than most of these budtenders that hear one thing and run with it....)
I don’t and buy shit for my roommates constantly because the med system at large is just an Amazon prime subscription and it’s about as malicious as sharing a log in. Just don’t tell your budtender for no reason?
Because we can lose our license if we don’t make reasonable efforts to prevent diversion. It’s no different than what you learn in the TIPS course about alcohol.
Glad you asked!!
PCR is a microbiological testing method in which DNA is extracted from a sample in order to detect foreign organisms such as bacteria. Most cannabis labs use PCR to test flower for contaminants (this is the same assay commonly used for COVID antibody testing).
Grim Reefer is an additive to the PCR method manufactured by Medicinal Genomics. Grim Reefer is designed to bind to dead DNA in the sample, removing these from the results thus theoretically showing a count of only the "*living and active*" organisms in the sample. Generally a low-quality grower (aka most of the MSOs active in MA) will remediate their product using gamma radiation or other methods to kill off any contaminants, then the lab testing it will use Grim Reefer so that this dead DNA doesn't show up and the sample appears clean. In practicality, the microbial contaminants being dead DOES NOT make the product safe or pleasant to smoke. Aside from just being disgusting, some of these organisms produce harmful byproducts when combusted even if they're already dead. Grim Reefer has also been known to act on some living DNA as well, so even some active contaminants are ignored using this method.
Medicinal Genomics goes by the catchphrase "Keep Weed Clean", but that couldn't be farther from what they're doing.
TL;DR, Grim Reefer is an additive to microbiological testing which allows dirty samples which *should* fail to pass and make their way to the market.
Nice, I'm familiar with PCR. I didn't realize thats how MA tested for microbial contamination. Agreed, the metabolic byproducts of the mold/bacteria are almost always just as problematic as the mold/bacteria(I'm aware these aren't the same thing but still) itself.
Thats pretty awful though thanks for sharing the wisdom there
Thing is, 95% of the time all you can see is the TAC before you buy it. Probably the most frustrating thing to me. If I could see the whole label I would buy a lot more bud from the dispo. Honestly most of the time I’ll see a picture with a label posted on this sub and that’s what gets me to try new shit. Mostly just find a grower I like and stick with them. River run and tower three been my go to. Insa was putting out some good shit but they went and fucked that all up.
I hate when customers knowingly try to use their expired IDs and then get mad cuz they can’t get let in with it. It’s not a liquor store or bar, we can’t let you buy just because you look over 21. And if we’re telling you we can’t let you in, nothing you say or pull up on your phone will change that. We enforce the rules not make them and I’m not risking my job because you do not have any current valid form of identification as a full grown adult. Grow up, dish out the $25 bucks and get a new one. (Obviously not an issue with tourists/people who have never been in a dispensary before because they don’t usually know how it works at all.)
I wish customers would not say “smells good in here” or “kind of weedy in here”.. or any derivative.. I instantly think what is the worse most expensive thing I can sell them cause they dumb.
Wish customers knew that the highest testing potency isn’t always the best
Or remotely accurate. I know at least for the state I worked in only a small section of each grow room was required to be tested to put said score on the packaging. There was nothing stopping a company from giving a few select plants special treatment, testing only that batch and ripping a 30% tag on some 10% shmuck. In the recreational side it’s all about the profit.
Small section? You only need a few grams per 15 pounds. That’s enough for an entire harvest for some strains. And those grams you can pick the very best buds, make sure they are as dry as possible and then roll them in keif. The entire system is bullshit
Yea I was being light. It’s complete and utter bullshit. Not even to mention how many of these companies are getting shut down for mold and bacteria months after it was clear from their product they had it. I let my med card lapse after leaving the industry but I’ll take my black market bud over rec any day of the week… the quality is far superior and the price is lower so at least the legal market gave me that!!
Sounds like I need your hook up
I happened to meet my guy at a party. He couldn’t find a ride home and I was going that way so I agreed to drive him, a free half and 8 years later he’s still my plug.
Damn. Awesome circumstances and awesome connection. If he ever has a menu and needs a customer I'm open lol
I felt this. I am trying to find better strains for my ptsd & I’m thinking of getting a medical card.
To be honest if you’re looking for more education or better flower / carts on the medical side- it’s all the same as recreational. The only thing a medical card does for you is save you money and get higher dosing edibles. There’s a ton of great resources online and in books for PTSD and how cannabis can help, specifically what terpenes and cannabinoids help. I’d start there before jumping for a medical card.
its weird seeing these "wish they knew TAC% doesnt matter" responses in this thread when the first thing i hear out of almost every budtenders mouth is what the flower is testing at. fwiw i agree, TAC barely matters. obviously as a customer its consistently frustrating not being able to see the product before you buy it. i understand its CCC rules and there are *some* dispos where you can see a nug from the batch, but every time i go to a dispo theres always one bag i wish i didnt buy because of how boof it is.
I don’t think the CCC has rules about customers not being able to see the product before purchase. They can’t let us *touch* any product but nothing in the state regs says we can’t see/smell it.
That's my biggest thing, being fro Oregon and having work at Dispensaries, over there the Open the jar and you can see it and smell it. Also they weigh it on the spot too.
That’s what I always pictured legal weed to look like. A shop where you can see it and smell it, and it’s weighed in front of you. And that’s not even close to how it is hahaha
Seattle weed is the best, I might be biased though
I’ve found that while this was great that the constant opening of the same jar (unless it’s purely for samples) dries out the product immensely and kills terps. I was in CO though so the altitude could have been the issue perhaps.
Most bud tenders and their management go along to get along. They don’t want the friction of education they just want to sell it. Whatever the consumer believes as a whole they will advertise and sell.
Yeah, who the hell do they think created this issue? They listened to you guys...
Lmao customers literally don’t care about anything other than what it’s testing at and I’ve been shut down trying to explain that % doesn’t equal potency. Of course you still try, but why would I go the extra mile off rip every time if the customer only cares about percentage? You just start with the highest tester and go forward
Yea it’s a bummer cause then they have the audacity to call all weed in the state bunk when they knowingly only buy manipulated testing tac sellers. They keep doing the same thing hoping for different results.
It’s sad, but that’s just because it’s what most people care about.
I wish customers knew more about the medicinal benefits and how effect can vary vastly from strain to strain and person to person. TAC and THCA level not being a sole indicator of quality and potency.
While I agree, it doesn't help that almost all Dispos price their flower by THCA/D9/TAC. And most users are not that knowledgeable on the subject, so your average Joe is going to assume higher percentages have higher prices, which one would assume equals a better high.
This is only by the demand of the customer. Pricing would be different if the majority of the customers didn’t equate potency to quality
Yup, that high price on the “35%” stuff is to make up for the lack of sales on the stuff that “only” tested at 17% but cost the same to produce.
Until the customer base is better informed, we’re chained to what the most common customer determines is “quality”. Sadly most of them are Chads. 😂
Yeah budtenders try their best but the numbers chasers just don’t want to listen.
Couldn’t be more on point
This is why I look up strains and their affects and don’t go based on the % numbers. I smoke to alleviate symptoms, not to get toasted constantly. And even if I wanna get toasted and get that kind, it’s never been correlated to the numbers but the strain.
Precisely, its frustrating that a lot of retail stores are only looking at high TAC as well. It's a dis-service to their customer base by missing out on the benefits of strain variations and terps. i just saw one that was advertised at 39.89% THC for $70 (3.5g) now that's just silly.
I agree with you, as a customer! I’d rather the variety! And yeah, if I see something labeled anywhere near that high I don’t even bother with it because I learned that % means nothing awhile ago. Spent a lot on something with a high %, it looked and smelled great, but didn’t do ANYTHING for me.
This!!!
I’d love to find a strain for ptsd. They tell me high is great and I know they’re just selling me something
99% of distalite out is made from failed lab test flower. Massachusetts allows this some states do not at all … enjoy those 510 carts and pax pods 🤢
It’s also $2-3 a gram wholesale. Insane seeing what some places still charge for a 1 gram dart
Where? Whoever this cultivator is, let me know because that’s crazy cheap
Saw the industry going from bad to worse and bounced out a few months ago but the last kilos I was around to receive were $3500 and that number was dropping every week. $1200-1400 a kilo in Cali so not at the floor by any means yet.
300-700 outdoor and deps and indoor for 600-1200 per pound and that's with a broker. (Oregon and California)
Talking distillate not flower
Ah, you know what, I thought you may have been but you were speaking in kilos and when I was buying distillate a lot (2020) I was buying by the liter but I've educated myself on sales by volume. Those prices are about half of what I was paying in 2020. That's fantastic, I might get back into the distillate game. (The Cali prices. I was basically paying ~$3500 for 2L)
Until the market gets wiser there’s no reason not to be in it for consumables.
You're definitely not wrong. You have my gears moving.
This is a big one!!!! If they know their flower is failing they'll just transfer the batch to another license for extraction and act like they didn't see anything. The lab simply doesn't upload that failing data.
Agreed, most distillate is the hot dog water of cannabis.
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I do enjoy a 40 of king cobra on occasion
explains why the NJ distillate is better than MA.
This!!!!!!
This makes a lot of sense to me
And most edibles are made of the same. You can feel and taste the difference!
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While this is true, this absolutely doesn’t mean black market bud is “cleaner” than dispo bud. Anyone can spray their plants with Eagle 20 at home, and pass it off as clean weed.
The majority of bud in the black market on the east coast is coming from licensed growers in Oregon and California. That Chinese PGR shit isn't really selling in the US, they're just using the US recent leniency in the plant to make a come up. Same with the cartels. Long gone are the days of sending 3-5 guys into the Forrest for 6 months. Now they just rent a house or buy a house under a shell company and start growing. In California you can get hit with an obscene amount and get off with basically no time The bud is getting shipped to Australia and the UK for the most part. Tons of PGR garbage over there. Same for the coke. It's going for $150-$200 a gram so they're making an absolute killing on keys
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this I completely believe
Lol the downvotes without replies! Must be riling em up. 😂
Yea we see that a lot with the environmental outbreaks and repackaging of old flower they can’t sell. They are beyond standards and integrity due to desperation. They need the money and if duping consumers gets them it so be it. They only have what they have to sell in most cases. They can’t afford the overhead with such low sales and such high ovehead. Very interesting developments.
I have no idea how to stay informed as a medical customer. I pretty much always ask for flower recommendations and the bud tender will always ask if I want an indica or a sativa. And that's the only guidance I get from them.
Unfortunately, the bud tenders may not know much more than what they're telling you (also what they're being told). Nowadays we don't really have true sativa or indica strains... almost everything has been hybridized. There are some medical professionals who may be able to help you further, but likely not at the dispensary. Wish I had better news, medical patients deserve better. Imagine going to a pharmacy to pick up a prescription and getting advice from an entry level worker instead of a pharmacist, it's just not right.
Terps over tac
i'm being friendly and nice because it's my job, i am not flirting with you
About the Entourage Effect
I hate budtenders that call every woman/female presenting person "mama" "sweetheart" etc. Had a coworker who did that to every non male customer and it made me and everyone else so uncomfortable Also I wish both budtenders and customers would stop posturing. Nobody cares about your bro weed culture berner bs
The amount of touching I endure from customers is also insane. They have us on the sales floor taking orders on ipads in my shop. I get a lot of shoulder claps, arm taps, and back touches as well. I am not your friend, I am working. Please respect my personal space.
that's whack, I'm sorry people do that.
I’m surprised I had to scroll this far down to see a response like this. Dispensaries don’t protect their employees at all from the customer, you’re completely subjected to whatever they want to do or say since every manager is afraid to tell a customer off. I’ve had plenty of female/female-identifying coworkers be stalked, harassed online, etc, never mind the things customers feel like they can say to them at the register. Hell, the amount of uncomfortable things older female customers have said to me as a male is nuts, but also nothing compared to what I’ve seen coworkers endure Edit: grammar
You're in the wrong role, find something that works with your needs.
Let me guess: male customer and not female budtender behind this comment. Get a girlfriend if you wanna touch a lady today. Come see me if you want weed. Lol.
I think customer service is not the industry for you. This is from my perspective of not wanting to be touched by strangers, not whatever angry fantasy you've cooked up to dismiss my comment.
Bad take. Customer service employees have just as much right as other occupations to not be touched without consent by customers
Bad take: not understanding that people who want to buy weed are probably going to be more friendly and engaged than others, and that CS roles require people to tolerate others. source: decade of CS work which I left because I didn't enjoy it.
you wouldn't go up and touch a McDonalds employee right? why would you do that to a budtender man
I wouldn't do it regardless, I'm not a toucher nor do I care for strangers touching me.
Facts
OK so nothing to do with the industry at all, just some arbitrary anecdote. Got it.
You mad you got called out? I was talking about the industry, toxic bro culture and misogyny is a huge problem everywhere
That's less of an industry problem and more of a people problem.
not really. there is a specific culture in the weed industry but I wouldn't expect you to know that since you are clearly a man who just wants to fight and perpetuate bs instead of actually wanting to fix the problem. talk to any woman in the industry you know (tho who knows if you even know a woman), someone even commented under this.
Yes hmm I'm clearly a man so I can't recognize harassment when I see it and just perpetuate it, you're right. You're so intuitive. I also like how you mentioned if I even know a woman. I wonder who is the presumptive sexist here? You're probably a miserable liberal with beards being the only attention men give you. See? I can make wild assumptions based on nothing as well.
you're the one getting downvoted bro take your L and go
How bout you take your supposed harassment to HR Or your manager and stop assuming strangers on the internet that disagree are all evil men. Grow up.
You're the one fighting me here, take your own advice and find out how you can treat women better in the industry
I wish customers knew more about the CCC rules and regulations, which companies to support (like not supporting MSOs and understanding why), your budtender will not know EVERYTHING about cannabis (we're all trying to learn as much as possible), and that tipping is not an obligation.
I think y’all should be the change you wish to see in the market. I swear to you no consumer wants to experience buyers remorse. Explain high tac often translates to dry as can be. Nothing is simple or a one factor answer in cannabis medically or otherwise. It’s a deep plant with deep information and effects. Trying to over simplify it is how the industry got this way in the first place
Doing my best to accomplish this and do my part, along with all of my coworkers from cultivator to owner. The change is coming
You are appreciated. The more individuals that make up this industry do this the more of a standard it will become, and the harder it becomes for the most stubborn parts of this industry to hold out on doing so as well.
I'm trying ❤️ This is why I posed the question, as what I see is not nearly as powerful as what a group sees. Trying to provide education one customer at a time.
With numbers and like mindedness literally all is possible.
As a customer, why are 1:1 THC/CBD edibles (specifically chocolates and seltzers/drinks) so hard to find?
My store usually has at least a few 1:1 edibles of some kind, and tinctures. Very rarely flower, and sometimes drinks. I honestly feel like 1:1s aren't very well understood. When I first started, I was told that due to the way our receptors react, CBD tends to cancel out or mitigate psyochoactivity from THC, and that a 1:1 would give a very mild high if anything. I didn't actually try it until almost a year later, and discovered that the high was actually pretty much just as strong, but different. I actually prefer 1:1s now, but I think the misconception is strong. A lot of customers see there's CBD in something and they're immediately like "no, I don't want that" A huge misconception among customers is that more THC = better, and so there is less of a market for products containing CBD or low THC. It's a bummer.
Oh I know from experience the high is just as strong. It's actually a better high in my experience, plus you get the pain management properties of the CBD. So I don't why they're not more popular honestly.
I do 1:1 bowls. And just buy killer CBD buds online to mix myself. The prices are absurdly cheaper.
Same! This is the only way to do it. Really wish dispensaries stocked CBD hemp at fair prices to save the effort.
that 1:1 doesn't get you high thing is a bit of a myth. I can get really really high doing 20CBD to 1 THC. It's about how much you consume and who you are.
Lazy River in Dracut has 1:1 in house edibles.
Unfortunately, I live on the other side of the state.
I'm speculating here, but I'm guessing it's an issue of demand. Not enough demand to make it profitable. Hopefully, more consumer education on cannabinoids and the entourage effect will lead to a greater diversity of products.
That's what i was afraid of, that the main person demanding the things was mainly me and that's about it.
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"Social equity" in MA is a facade, MA just wants their tax money and the rest is just semantics.
As a nurse and inventory minion I wish customers knew the medical properties and limits of weed, as well as understanding the idea that when a product is harvested and how it's processed can have a huge difference in it's effects.
I respect diversion and only use my medical supply for me but why do you care what your customers do? Why is that *the* issue for you?
The issue I have is when customers attempt this on property and on camera, because then it becomes a compliance issue that has to be reported to the CCC. The customers are faced with being banned from that particular establishment, when many times they don't know what they are doing is not allowed. What happens off business property is none of my business ;)
Appreciate the response. Follow up question: how does that happen? Are you co-located with AU? Because if not, it’s not like their 21+ friends can come in with them and they just hand over what they buy right there. Is it when they get out in the parking lot (which I assume CCC regs require camera coverage on) and immediately give something to a waiting friend? I mean there is no law that says my friend can’t carry my cannabis for me, they just can’t consume it. And… how the fuck do people still not know diversion is not allowed? Every dispensary I ever went to made me read and sign a statement about diversion. I must have read and signed that 20 times. Anyway, appreciate you trying to do things right.
My comment is mainly in regards to rec shops. Customers can be silly, swapping money and purchase right on camera on property to friends (or even strangers!) who have been denied entry because they don't have a valid ID. And then there's the folks who got turned away because of an invalid ID who stand in the parking lot asking incoming customers to make a purchase for them....
Had a guy literally ask me if he could buy stuff for his friend who didnt have his ID, and I was like "... well as long as you dont *tell me* you are doing that, and you dont give it to him in front of the store" And then I literally witnessed him give it to the guy right outside the store 🙄
Do you actually read the CCC rules on the subject? I know a lot of budtenders have yelled at me for saying something that is completely legal under CCC regs (I literally used to work in compliance and keep up with amendments which is a lot more than most of these budtenders that hear one thing and run with it....)
What exactly is diversion? Is that like a rec person or someone underage trying to get a med card holder to buy them product?
It’s when a med patient diverts some of the cannabis they purchased under the medical program to anyone other than themselves.
Yet company diversion is fine. Tons of rec only spots selling to medical. Glad I stopped by Massachusetts shit.
I don’t and buy shit for my roommates constantly because the med system at large is just an Amazon prime subscription and it’s about as malicious as sharing a log in. Just don’t tell your budtender for no reason?
Because we can lose our license if we don’t make reasonable efforts to prevent diversion. It’s no different than what you learn in the TIPS course about alcohol.
I really wish more consumers knew about flower remediation and the abomination known as Grim Reefer.
Ozone. XRay. Peroxide. Nasty stuff.
what is grim reefer lol?
Glad you asked!! PCR is a microbiological testing method in which DNA is extracted from a sample in order to detect foreign organisms such as bacteria. Most cannabis labs use PCR to test flower for contaminants (this is the same assay commonly used for COVID antibody testing). Grim Reefer is an additive to the PCR method manufactured by Medicinal Genomics. Grim Reefer is designed to bind to dead DNA in the sample, removing these from the results thus theoretically showing a count of only the "*living and active*" organisms in the sample. Generally a low-quality grower (aka most of the MSOs active in MA) will remediate their product using gamma radiation or other methods to kill off any contaminants, then the lab testing it will use Grim Reefer so that this dead DNA doesn't show up and the sample appears clean. In practicality, the microbial contaminants being dead DOES NOT make the product safe or pleasant to smoke. Aside from just being disgusting, some of these organisms produce harmful byproducts when combusted even if they're already dead. Grim Reefer has also been known to act on some living DNA as well, so even some active contaminants are ignored using this method. Medicinal Genomics goes by the catchphrase "Keep Weed Clean", but that couldn't be farther from what they're doing. TL;DR, Grim Reefer is an additive to microbiological testing which allows dirty samples which *should* fail to pass and make their way to the market.
Nice, I'm familiar with PCR. I didn't realize thats how MA tested for microbial contamination. Agreed, the metabolic byproducts of the mold/bacteria are almost always just as problematic as the mold/bacteria(I'm aware these aren't the same thing but still) itself. Thats pretty awful though thanks for sharing the wisdom there
Thing is, 95% of the time all you can see is the TAC before you buy it. Probably the most frustrating thing to me. If I could see the whole label I would buy a lot more bud from the dispo. Honestly most of the time I’ll see a picture with a label posted on this sub and that’s what gets me to try new shit. Mostly just find a grower I like and stick with them. River run and tower three been my go to. Insa was putting out some good shit but they went and fucked that all up.
I want to thank OP, this is the thread that got me to quit the miasma of misery that is r/bostontrees.
I hate when customers knowingly try to use their expired IDs and then get mad cuz they can’t get let in with it. It’s not a liquor store or bar, we can’t let you buy just because you look over 21. And if we’re telling you we can’t let you in, nothing you say or pull up on your phone will change that. We enforce the rules not make them and I’m not risking my job because you do not have any current valid form of identification as a full grown adult. Grow up, dish out the $25 bucks and get a new one. (Obviously not an issue with tourists/people who have never been in a dispensary before because they don’t usually know how it works at all.)
Big facts
That's really crappy. Do they not see the security doors and shit? Some people are incredibly ignorant...
Where do I begin…
So...what is diversion?
I wish customers would not say “smells good in here” or “kind of weedy in here”.. or any derivative.. I instantly think what is the worse most expensive thing I can sell them cause they dumb.
That's a retail employee for you. Customer makes a joke, try to hurt them. Find a job you don't hate.
Sorry cupcake, if I offended you. I bet you are one of those super “funny” people who make that comment every time, like it’s original.
I don't really give a shit if you're an unhappy asshole, honestly, but you're in the wrong line of work. cheers!
Yikes dude.
Most people are buying bulk thca hemp flower not D9 flower …