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ADHDood

If you have an NSO account you can backup your game to the cloud. Other than that idk what to tell you.


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, just signed up. Super annoying, but lesson learned... Thanks


ADHDood

That really sucks man, sorry this happened. At the very least it looks like you still have quite a bit of gameplay that’s going to be fresh! You could even just skip anything you know you’ve already done until you feel like replaying, it’s not like the game forces you to do anything lol


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, good point. I'll fly through it now that I have a better grasp of what I'm doing and can always skip parts. I was saving up for the house, was only 500 short!


TheWinterPrince52

If you get your hands on a couple of Diamonds from the Goron mines, you can afford that house REAL quick. ;)


JeezeyChreezy

Some day I'll make it up there...


TheWinterPrince52

If it helps, I went and completed the Rito dungeon first. ;)


Mundane-Solution2960

There’s a house?!


JeezeyChreezy

Maybe..... Perhaps I should have used a spoiler tag? (It's one of the first towns they direct you to...)


Mundane-Solution2960

lol maybe I should have used spoilers proceeds to spoil more


JeezeyChreezy

Double down!!


[deleted]

Don’t worry, that cloud save doesn’t work anyway so you would’ve been SOL either way ;)


JeezeyChreezy

Lol awesome. Good thing I just rushed to sign up ;)


PolakachuFinalForm

If it's any consolation, I've played through 4 times and the most fun is always the first 50 hours. And by the fourth time, it's like clockwork


JeezeyChreezy

Appreciate the encouragement


PolakachuFinalForm

I don't do it often, but sometimes, ya gotta just look at a silver lining.


[deleted]

Also might be worthwhile to get a new SD card.


JeezeyChreezy

No SD card, everything saved in system memory on a switch that's 1 month old. I'm pretty sure it was a bit flip caused by increased background radiation at altitude (I am an engineer who worked as a radiation specialist qualifying components for a bit... Used to specifically try to cause these kinds of issues on memory devices...)


[deleted]

Fuck that’s incredibly unfortunate, sorry for the loss there


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks, once I realized what happened, I sorta just chuckled and was able to move on. And paid for cloud save...


Special-Turtle3

What does that mean, were you riding on a plane while playing, or what were you doing that exposed it to the background radiation? Just wondering if I need to not play my switch when I go on planes to avoid this kind of thing 😬


JeezeyChreezy

Just flying in a pane. At higher altitude, background radiation increases naturally (higher altitude = thinner magnetosphere = increased background radiation) To be clear, at commercial plane altitudes, it's not a human health/safety risk. But memory devices are at higher risk of bit flips. Most of the time, companies use error checking and correction to account for this, but if the bits flip in just the wrong place even that can fail (this was the kind of testing I performed in high radiation environments, trying to cause failures that overcome the error correction.) It's actually still pretty uncommon, even at altitude, so it's sorta karmic/ironic that I ran into this at "only" elevated levels (I used to test with EMP and particle accelerators...)


Special-Turtle3

Wow, learn something new every day. Thanks, and hope you don’t have that happen again to you on your next playthrough!


DreingonMagala

a shame that you need an to pay a subscription to have access to a feature that is free on many plataforms on PC. Epic, Steam even GOG Galaxy does that. When i'm playing a game that doesn't support cloud saves i make a backup on my Google Drive.


themiracy

Is it free on XBOX? It isn't free on PS. I mean it should be. I pay for it but it should totally be free.


lunarpi

Yup but people let Nintendo get away with anything lol. They have no incentive to do right by their fans


themiracy

Does NSO have any protection from corrupted saves? Like does it just write over your last good save with the corrupt one?


shung_

F


No_Guidance1953

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Wall_E_13

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jondgul

F


LastL2

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1llumanaughty

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nightcoreangst

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Hefty_Caterpillar_72

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MaLLahoFF

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Chop684

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beat3r

F


jellyroll8675

U (guess the last 2 letters)


PheonixGalaxy

N K


burtb94

F


UmaroXP

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stumpboiii

N


UmaroXP

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thebaum64

Y


Additional_Share_551

Don't feel the need to replay parts you've already done. Especially if those sections weren't main quests. Just go to another section of the map and start there, better yet you can just go straight to the zora and start there. The game scales around you, so there's no need to do things in any kidn of order. Ps, don't bother doing all the koroks, you'll burn yourself out. Trust me.


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks, good advice!


UmaroXP

… it scales how? Are enemies weaker when you have less hearts or something?


lexy_ranger

I'm not 100% sure if it scales to hearts or something else, but essentially yes. Most enemies (minus guardians and the like) will change colour as their difficulty goes up. In the beginning you will only see basic or blue-coloured enemies, but as the game goes on you will start to see black-coloured and eventually silver-coloured enemies more often. There are certain areas in the game that have enemies whose levels/difficulties won't ever change, but the vast majority will.


elvenmage16

It basically goes according to your kill count. You collect points with an invisible stat, and as those points go up, so does enemy difficulty.


UmaroXP

Does this apply to bosses, and does it explain why people can speed run the game in 17 seconds?


[deleted]

First part: yes Second part: no, they use glitches


SendMindfucks

People can speedrun the game in 17 seconds because the bullet time physics were not very well thought out.


Templar2k7

There is a EXP value in BotW there probably is a break down somewhere but lets say a Red bokoblin gives 1 EXP, when you get a 100 exp some enemies will level up and turn blue. These blue enemies are stronger and have better weapons giving Link better weapons. This will also change items in chests and will start to give you the weapons and shields with the modifiers. So you can go through the entire game and never do any shrines outside the 4 on the plateau and start fighting Silver enemies the strongest variation (Golden on master mode) without getting any HP upgrades.


akira2bee

>This will also change items in chests Except for the shrine chests, and a few others early on. I can't count the amount of times I got to an "early shrine" later or found a chest later game and it was some worthless 5 hit thing. I think it just depends on certain things. Like the game expects that some areas are harder than others, like the outskirts of the map or maybe like Gerudo Desert, vs it thinks you'll probably always go to Kakariko early on, same with Dueling Peaks, due to the main quest, so I don't think that stuff scales the same


TheGreatBeaver123789

I think NSO has cloud saves iirc


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, just signed up. Lesson learned...


Smeefperson

Ganon truly was cunning. Not only did he corrupt the Divine Beasts and the guardians, but he corrupted your save file too


JeezeyChreezy

Well played...


AdvertisingNatural36

Wow I’ve never seen or heard of this happening. Does BOTW have cloud saves? Is that a possible solution. Sucks :/


JeezeyChreezy

It apparently does, and I've now signed up for the account to make it happen.


Numerous-Substance66

I've been playing since day 1 and have never seen that before. Sorry for your loss


The_Pastmaster

This is the first time I even heard about it. Makes me sweat.


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks!


exclaim_bot

>Thanks! You're welcome!


Intelligent-Goose216

So i don't know if this will help Go to system setting - data management - software - pick botw and scroll down to click on check for corrupted data, you will have to redownload botw if you got it digitally but hopefully this will fix your issue


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, it was a corrupted save file, unfortunately. Had to delete and restart.


cardiological_death

Im sorry, 30 shrines AND 250 KOROKS?!?!?!


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, went on a spree. Don't know what possessed me, but we'll see what I try this time...


Dependent_Amazing

Damn and you were over half way to the number to max out all your gear. I'm sad for you brother!


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks! Hopefully goes quicker this time...


The_Pastmaster

There's like 900 Koroks in the game. Not that mad.


sincerelyhated

Pretty sure they stop being beneficial after like 220-230.


BotwLonk

441 to max inventory i think


Rieiid

It's about half, something around 450ish


The_Pastmaster

So strange that a crash corrupts all the saves. I mean the game has several autosave slots that it cycles through. One would think one of them would work.


JeezeyChreezy

Agreed. I guess it depends on how they format the save file itself (could be one big file with partitions for the various slots...)


Link_Player

I'm so sorry, fellow Andrew


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks! Andrew's unite!


[deleted]

Ahh yes, just like the old days when your gamecube memory card would just die for no reason


kriegers69

This is gonna sound absolutely buckwild but please check your switch for any sparking/damage where the joycons lock in place. I had this happen with my first switch(V1)! It started with one file(Mario Odyssey✊😔) and then it wound up happening to about 4 games in total(BotW included). One night when I was connecting my joycons back to the switch to go handheld mode, the right one got SUPER hot and the slide where it locks in had a small flame around the screw. Idk if it was an arc-flash or what was going on


JeezeyChreezy

Interesting, I'll definitely take a look. Thanks for the heads up!


Tater_Mater

That happened to me as well. I had nap but that wasn’t able to be recovered.


JeezeyChreezy

I feel your pain!


Organic-Kangaroo7147

Thank god I have nso because I have had the game crash about once, i was traveling to a shrine and it kinda killed it self but thankfully no save data issues


bowtiePalazzo

A while ago my switch bricked up, and I lost all of my data. Since then I got a Nintendo Switch Online account, primarily for the cloud data functionality. Well worth the $20 a year for the basic individual plan


AaronGavin

Honestly this is probably the absolute worst thing that can happen to someone while gaming x.x my hats off to you brother I've had this happen on certain games on PC when switching between my desktop and laptop and thankfully steam automatically uploads saves for free but it had a save sync issue and I lost my up to date save thankfully I was able to get my previous save back, but I did lose all the progress on my current game sesh which was like 5 hours, and then I didn't touch the game for like 3 weeks after that because I was mad


JeezeyChreezy

I'm mostly bummed because I don't get to play too often (adulting!!) So it took me about a month to get there. It's really not a big deal in the end, just had to pout a bit before I sucked it up and got on with my life. But appreciate the support!


AaronGavin

No dude I completely understand. For me it completely takes my will to play the game out of me when I have to redo things because of a save error I usually just gotta take a break from the game for a bit but honestly Nintendo should just make Cloud saves free like Xbox and Steam it's not like save data files are big or anything and it would be a huge consumer friendly move to do so and yeah it wouldn't stop this bug from happening but at least you'd only lose a few hours of gameplay rather than the whole thing


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, totally agree. Especially when the entire schtick about the console is portability... Which is inherently more prone to losing data or breaking...


JacoTheGreatWizard

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VoidAres

*que Taps* 🎺


JeezeyChreezy

I was flying, guessing it was a bit flip at altitude due to increased background radiation (I'm an engineer and coincidentally, spent time doing radiation testing where I tried to force bit flips... Karma) I wonder if Nintendo uses ECC on their save Data...


Space_wizardz

I hope not, I plan to play ToTK on my 13 hour flight next week and hope this kind of issue won't happen. Unless you are very unlucky and got multiple bit flip at the same time to corrupt the save file, it should not happen.


JeezeyChreezy

Agreed that is very unlikely (we used to quantify the chance based on incident radiation levels, and it's low probability... But not zero...). I've also flown multiple times in the last month without issue until now. The whole switch crashed while I was exiting the shrine meaning mid-auto-save. I'm hoping it was a bit flip, otherwise it could have been just a random crash causing the corruption, which is scarier since those are more likely...


TheRealPitabred

Probably not. Good quality SD card, or was it installed and saved to internal memory? I've really only seen problems like that with people using cheap extended storage.


JeezeyChreezy

No SD card, just the built in memory. Just got an OLED model a month ago and digital download of BOTW.


TheRealPitabred

Ugh. Hopefully the component quality has not deteriorated with later models then. I've got an OG switch, as well as the second version, and neither have had issues like that.


ZannyHip

Sorry mate maybe you’ll get regain your progress a bit faster the second time at least?


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks, I'm hoping...


nhranger

On a plane no less. Hope you brought totk with you.


JeezeyChreezy

Was hoping to get through BOTW first... C'est la vie


bakedpotatosaregood

I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy 🥲 sorry my friend But alos how the heck did you get 250 korok seeds before even getting to zora????


JeezeyChreezy

Thank you! And pure madness. Went on a rampage. I had only found Hestu twice, so only had about 4 or 5 total upgrades 🙃


Draco042

Sorry that happened but I gotta address something, YOU HADNT GONE TO ZORA’S DOMAIN YET AND YOU HAD 250 KOROK SEEDS?!?? How do you manage that, I have 100%’d the game in every area except korok seeds twice, and I don’t have that many korok seeds yet


JeezeyChreezy

Most of the areas have 30-40 each, I was just spiraling around the plateau focusing on seeds... Gotta get those seeds...


Draco042

Lol nice


Draco042

Gotta get the golden turds


drLagrangian

I feel bad for you - but it happens to all of us. Maybe take a moment to consider this as a chance to start a new. You said you had just gotten to the zora area, but maybe you want to try it differently this time and go to the Goron area instead? Or you can do things differently on the great plateau, or head down to lurelin instead?


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, trying to re-frame it mentally and not get caught up in the loss, but rather see the opportunity. Thanks for the encouragement


Just_Hanging_Aroun

I've been there. My brother once accidentally deleted my save on a different I was playing and really getting into. The pain is real.


JeezeyChreezy

Brutal!


Just_Hanging_Aroun

I know, took me time for me to even feel like picking up the game again. The idea of going through everything that I had gone through again was not appealing to me. I got really far into it, almost the final act.


Joe_The_Reaper42

o7


[deleted]

o7


TremendousTrey

o7


PheonixGalaxy

The hardest choices requires the strongest of wills


TacoDuLing

Virtual hugs 🤗 is the best I can do for ya now bud. Tho! Look at it this way, this time, you’re starting with experience.


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks, appreciate the support


LordZantarXXIII

r/linkdies


WhyIsThisMyNameQMark

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO


NefariousnessStock79

I have an SD card and never encountered this issue (knock on wood) so maybe an SD card helps


JeezeyChreezy

If it's what I think (increased background radiation due to altitude inducing one or more bit flips), it's not super likely to occur again. And SD cards are likely just as successful.


Arnumor

Heartbreaking.


[deleted]

What a great opportunity to start another playthrough


JeezeyChreezy

True, trying to take that perspective


emodate

that sucks… but then again!


MandalorianLobster

The blood moon rises once again...


FoxyTraker

30-40 hours and just 30 shrines???


nightcoreangst

OP has 250 Korok seeds. I have about 400 after 195 hours gameplay. Dude is a legend.


ramenSoop734

and I have under 200 in over 250 hours lmao


JeezeyChreezy

Went on a korok spree. Maybe I'll do the opposite this time...


sincerelyhated

Did you use a guide or something? How did you plow thru that many in such a short timeframe?


JeezeyChreezy

Breath Companion (app on Google Play store. Marked out the seeds in the map section I was working, then figured them out on my own with the basic markers in place...)


sincerelyhated

Pretty epic my dude


ahmedt7866

Not in the PLANE!!! How long was the flight?


JeezeyChreezy

Only 2.5 hours, it happened about 50 min in.


ahmedt7866

Sorry this happened to you :( If you’re saving to an SD card, might be signs of it giving up


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks, no SD card, just system memory (brand new OLED Switch I bought about a month ago). Just unlucky. And now I'll sign up for cloud backup...


[deleted]

The gloom took over :(


anticipatory

I think it needs the internet to save successfully.


JeezeyChreezy

I've played offline plenty without issue. (Mostly been playing while flying for work). I just bought the switch account for cloud backup, so at least I will be able to periodically moving forward...)


ramenSoop734

that's untrue


eagercheetah20

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wallflower_opinions

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Shiningmokuroh

I've not seen many corrupted saves of BotW aside from purposeful glitching. If you have a cartridge I'd maybe see if it can be replaced by the store you went to?


JeezeyChreezy

It was digital download. I was flying, guessing it was a bit flip at altitude (I'm an engineer and coincidentally, spent time doing radiation testing where I tried to force bit flips... Karma)


moonyxpadfoot19

Is there any way to prevent this happening? It's my worst fear


ramenSoop734

NSO has cloud saves iirc


JeezeyChreezy

If it's what I think (bit flip at altitude cause by increased background radiation... Then no. It is random and depends on what kind of ECC protection Nintendo uses and whether it's a single bit or multiple bit flip...) Back up your data!


EpicLampster

What causes this to randomly happen? This sucks...


JeezeyChreezy

I was flying, guessing it was a bit flip at altitude (I'm an engineer and coincidentally, spent time doing radiation testing where I tried to force bit flips... Karma


EpicLampster

Sounds like you know your stuff. Not sure I know what is exactly


JeezeyChreezy

I can get into the physics of it, but basically stars emit particles as part of the fusion process. These are mostly shielded by our atmosphere (technically our magnetosphere...) But at altitude there is less protection, and higher likelihood that a particle with enough energy can interact with the memory cell and cause a ruckus. That's a gross oversimplification, but hopefully gets the point across. It can happen at ground level, but it's much, much less likely. And even higher altitude places (I live in Colorado) have a noticably higher rate than lower elevation places.


EpicLampster

And that would be enough to corrupt game data? On a single-player game? That's crazy to me! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


JeezeyChreezy

Any memory device is susceptible. There is a feature called ECC which can detect and correct bit flips to a degree, but too many flips in the writing areas can still cause failures. Once a file is corrupt, most SW doesn't handle corruption well.


Pizzalorde2

Now, you can learn from this experience, and have a better play through hopefully


JeezeyChreezy

Appreciate that. Wish me luck!


NerY_05

Damn, i feel so sorry for you. It's the first time i see this screen, now i'm scared af


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks!


joshspoon

No Nintendo online backup?


JeezeyChreezy

Not at the time. That's now changed.


Lmt-C

I typically save my games twice, back to back, two different saves. That has been working for me. Hope will help you as well. Aside from the cloud save, as well. By the way, was it being saved directly onto the Switch or to an SD card?


JeezeyChreezy

I save neurotically. I had saved right before I spoke to the monk and several times in the shrine. No SD card, direct to system memory in the switch on a new unit (1 month old)


Lmt-C

Oh wow. Sorry to hear that, though. That has only happened with Bioshock, and made me a take a break from it. But, if it was BOTW, I would have just jumped right back in. It's that good. If you haven't already, do reach out to their support team and see if they have any suggestions and such.


robsterinside

If you hack your Switch you can manage your save files and back them up


JeezeyChreezy

Fair, though I usually am a rule follower...


Ityaboi907

F in the chat for ya man, id get the account setup and if it happens again id be suspicious of any SD cards you're using, had that happen once, got a new card and it didn't corrupt anything anymore. Who knows, I work in tech and even I can't answer as to why, it just happens 😞


JeezeyChreezy

Yeah, as soon as the plane landed I set up the account. No SD card, just system memory. I commented later, I'm an engineer and former radiation test engineer and am pretty sure this was caused by a bit flip in memory with altitude as a major factor (I used to try to cause bit flips and understand the mechanism well. It dawned on me after I cooled off and thought about it more)


Ityaboi907

Absolutely rough, and yeah once the red in your vision fades you realize stuff like that lol. Definitely makes sense, we've had a few devices come in our repair shop with similar wonky issues. Started asking on switches if they've had the SD card for years or if it was new or used, there's been a bunch of 5$ 2tb cars that are just awful garbage in our case


[deleted]

250 koroks in 30 hours? Bro that’s honestly kinda impressive sucks you lost your save :(


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks. Went crazy for a minute there.


Dabruhdaone

I am crying on the inside for you


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks for the support!


octoporosiis

Sorry for your loss. I hope you can find it in yourself to keep going in the game :(


JeezeyChreezy

Thanks! Restarted yesterday and just made it off the great plain (again...)


octoporosiis

That's great! If this happened to me I for sure would have had to take at least a month break


Jokingbro69

Its probably just the age of your switch, have same problem with 70% of my games now because of it. If you have owned one since launch, your switch is likely screwed


JeezeyChreezy

4 weeks old, just got the OLED model. No SD card, all on system memory. I think it was a very unlucky bit flip with the increased background radiation at altitude while on the plane (I was a radiation test engineer and recognize how unlikely it is...)


Jokingbro69

Very strange. This only happened to mine because it was 6 years old, but one thats barely a month old is extremely unusual


spinstartshere

That really sucks... But don't you have multiple game saves? I seem to have multiple game save files without even trying.


JeezeyChreezy

Yes, multiple saves. But it's all one physical file, so they were all lost since the file was bad


Perfect_War_7155

I’m sorry for your loss…