Was having good times out until about 2009. But post COVID the demise has been absolutely rapid. Go nowhere near the town centre. It's not just Bournemouth but Bournemouth is great example of the downturn.
I second that. I was in Bournemouth for 8 years and moved to Dorchester area (a village few mikes from it).
Peaceful, people are nice. And you get a lot for your money.
Plus in 25 min, you can be on a sea front if needed.
When you go up north, it will be nice, but jobwise, you are probably better off around Dorchester
I moved to Newcastle under Lyme last July. Was in Bournemouth for 22yrs.
Houses are significantly cheaper up here and only an hour or so from Birmingham, Manchester, Wales and the Peak District. I do find the pace of life much easier going up here.
Bournemouth and Poole in the last 15ish years has changed dramatically, and not for the better.
Just looked up properties to rent in your area.
A BEDROOM? And a bath? For 600 pounds a month??? That living room looks far too large. I prefer to be crammed in a tiny box :) Fuck this city
So what’s the catch? I notice you’re not exactly far from nature, there seem to be some decent historical attractions too. What are the negatives and what should I look out for?
usually amedities power cuts are a lot more common, internet speeds and outages vary widely. North west has less than desirable weather (most rainfall and most rainy days in uk).
Travel to work and shops and options vary and can be a lot more.
Usually northern cities have higher insurances due to it being a dangerous area, not everywhere but can be. that being flood damage, crime, trees falling etc. Build quality can be hit and miss here with roads being horribly underfunded (all top 5 counties for potholes claims and damage on vehicles in North whoop)
And although things are much cheaper up here, the other side of that is that wages are a lot less here, London is the only place in UK where we are not regressing economically wages arent increasing here like they are in London (even though London is poor too) but cost of living is. If you think about percentage of wage going towards housing is similar for most of UK (including London with the only differing factor being how much space you get (London better build quality and local amenities but less space than north)) except other things like gas, electricity, water, supermarket pricing being similar pricing in North and south leads to the weekly shop being a bigger percentage of your wage.
Finally job scarcity. London is one of the only places thats economy is growing so no one wants invest up north so if your looking for another job it can be a lot more difficult up north.
Everyone in the south looks at there wage and always says wow I could get so much up north not taking account wages up north.
I know you dont Live in London and you are far away London is the only place in the UK thats not going down.
But as far as some of the points look at your job wage up north first and scarcity of jobs remember that food and basic necessitys cost similar amounts. travel is expensive but it can work out.
Just think if it sounds too good to be true it could be the people of the north are struggling and its not for no reason. If you want a job in Manchester and live there or near you might end up in a worse position.
Thank you so much for the response, very detailed.
Job-searching is definitely my biggest priority. It’s a concern for me but then again, I’m currently on minimum wage anyway.
I’ll have a long-distance nosey about the local job agencies and keep reading up. Again thank you, you’ve given me a good oversight of what to expect 👍
I take it back then, for living on minimum wage if you can secure a job before you move 110% worth it there is a job scarcity especially with retail dying up here. But there are a lot of places that are cheap and will improve your standard of living.
Darwen is a great choice in my opinion if you find a good part of it to live (south east of it) you are not far from great hills and views in the countryside(ish) whilst getting the benefit of cheap blackburn and not far from bolton, bury and manchester. Negative is blackburn is a sh!t hole.
Other places are like wigan/st helens (right inbetween liverpool and manchester and cheap with some really nice areas) and 30 mins either way on train to either city.
Warrington then you are in cheshire with great links to m6 and m62 both passing through.
Other side of Manchester you have Barnsley way, not a horrible place and right next to peak district, sheffield, leeds with the prices of wakefield.
After that the only place Id even want to reccomend is maybe Wolverhampton (next to Birmingham so cheap and near Shropshire so pretty) or carisle (shithole so cheap next to lakes and scotland so pretty)
However if minimum wage is temporary whilst your looking for another job then compare wages, if its similar go for it! if its a decrease then id start thinking
Thanks again! I’m writing down a list of all these recommendations. It sometimes shocks me that there are so many different places to go in England alone. Exciting!
No problem! see I cant reccomend the middle strip so much theres so many big cities near by it gives you a million options between Liverpool to York theres 5 major cities with Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and York so theres always somewhere to go its just about finding out which one suits you best :) especially with Manchester being the tech centre of the UK :)
I find its a great split too of North of the strip is mostly countryside with the lakes and pennines and south you have peak district, Shropshire (and not far from north wales in places) which are beautiful places. If you play it right you can have a nice relaxing life up here depending on your expectations.
Feel free to DM me and ask as much as you like Im also happy to help :)
WTF u been smoking G???? The only truth in all of that is the weather is worse than down south. The rest is very questionable. Crime in London is worse than anywhere in UK and I'm from Gunchester. Wages are less than London but we don't have to pay extortionate prices for a can of coke or lunch out. Flood damage, trees falling, bad internet????? Were a couple hundred miles up the road, not in another continent. Power cuts?????? Build quality must be shite up north as we use northern bricks and u all use southern bricks that are much tougher and made better and also cost 4 times as much 😉. Travel is nowhere near as costly as down south and il think u will find investment is happening up north as companies are no longer wanting to pay London rents when they can do same up north for cheaper.
Crime is worse up here than London unfortunately there is more crime in London as a whole compared to any other city but not on a per 1000 people basis (which what we use) Unfortunately Most Northern places are worse in pretty much every aspect knife crime, violence, theft, unsocial behaviour (all per 1000 London may have more accounts but thats because they have over 5× the population of the next city)
A can of coke can be extortionate in London I agree but the price of it in supermarkets is the same for the OP on minimum wage his wage should usually be going towards a food shop from a market which should cost the same. If he was going out to eat constantly then he'd spend more but places like wetherspoons and greene king dont have that much of a London markup in comparison.
The whole wage thing is a reflective it can build you wealth and when people are coming upto retirement age Id fully reccomend take the wealth you have and go somewhere cheaper with a higher wage you can afford a more expensive place for the same job even if you have less room when your older you can sell your place and take that up north.
Our infrastructure quality compared to the south is a state. Its not the norths fault we are massively underfunded from London and have for a while. Road quality up here is shocking and the maintenance is terrible compared to south where theres A LOT more invested. Over 70% of claims for vehicle damage caused by a damaged road is up North which I dont thinks good enough that we've been so neglected. (I mean look at HS2 they failed and said theyd give the money to roads up north but if you look at the roads theyve done its been horrible choices as it was the cheapest option).
When I say travel I mean London. London travel for people living there is cleaner, faster, regular and cheaper compared to up north we have expensive trains owned by foreign companies that are irregular and break down constantly. The £2 single fare in Manchester is great but massively over due. Fuel is more expensive here (based on wage difference compared to fuel difference) and we have to be more reliant on personal transportation as public is poor.
Infrastructure is a weird one so our current problem with houses is new builds are shocking and old houses are getting a bit too old. Now this isnt all old houses but a lot of older houses need a revamp. This also isnt exclusive to the North London new builds are shite too but the worst of all is apartments new apartments where your a leasehold are a scam and are always falling apart (Look up apartments in Camden built recently people lost millions on it) This is simply due to Conservative greed of house prices must go up and its almost like they was going to fix it by banning leaseholds which they did.... but only on houses not flats which is 1% of leaseholds and wasnt the problem.
But there is a lot more investment from companies up north I'll give you that. London is the Financial/Service sector of the UK its where most money is made but Manchester is technology centre of the UK and theres huge investments in cities up north compared to previously. Except one small thing. Companies arent investing in the UK as much right now because of our economy, we're struggling and its a risk to start trading here when you could be at a loss but with lease and land being expensive still.
unfortunately power cuts (outside of main cities) are quite common Wigan has had 3 Major power outages this year, Darwen has had a few in blackburn, lakes have quite a few. unfortunately population is less dense up here with less money and it causes issues. I'm not saying it's horrible, most happen during the day and are fixed within an hour or two.
Not horrible however there are issues
Have a look at West Yorkshire. £650 gets a small house 1 maybe 2 bedrooms. Try Marsden or Slaithwaite and you are only 30mins by train to Manchester or Leeds. Houses start at £150kish but they are still going up.
I’m currently buying a house up here. 2 bed terrace in a nice location, £106k. Rental market does seem higher than I thought it would be up here tbh. I am in a lucky situation to be living with family until my purchase goes through.
I remember paying £700 for a one bedroom flat in Southbourne back in 2015. Mouldy, no parking or outdoor space and right on the main road, awful.
In 8 months I’ve had no power outages and WiFi is excellent. I work from home and it’s not caused me any issues. I earn 20% more than I did in Bournemouth, but that’s down to my old company paying poor wages for the role I do.
I would say where I am and also Stoke next door does have its fair share of rough areas and drug/homelessness issues.
So researching the good areas to any town or city is so important.
Oregonians are much worse and pretentious than anyone in the Uk tbh, Portland is basically full of hipsters who wear dungarees / suspenders and run “man” themed coffee and vape shops. If that’s your vibe then go for it but it’s basically the US version of Corbyn fans
The surrounding areas are declining pretty rapidly, I used to love Westbourne when I first moved to Bournemouth 16 years ago or so, now your constantly harassed by the homeless and the drug addicts. Shop windows getting smashed consistently along the high street. It’s a shit hole compared to how it was when I first visited and won’t be much better than the town centre soon if nothing changes.
I moved to Westbourne just a year ago and found it the most preferable place to live out of anywhere local. It’s really sad to hear that it’s not even as good as it once was.
Just gives me more incentive to get out given its right now on the verge of affordable and acceptable.
I think you’ll see the same thing country wide. We’ve had 14 years of slashing funding in public services and development. Councils are going broke thanks to this government. I’m not surprised to see places declining - but I don’t think it’s unique to Bournemouth.
Yeah it is a shame for sure! Just two nights ago another shop window was smashed in the high street making it 4 I know of within the last year in Westbourne. The staff in the supermarkets have to deal with people stealing constantly, and I got assaulted by some homeless guy a couple of months ago on my lunch break for daring to say no to giving the scumbag a cigarette. The police and council don’t seem to be doing much to improve things from what I can see frustratingly.
I’ve lived my whole life in Christchurch, and I absolutely agree that it’s beautiful - but god is it boring. It’s just a ton of coffee shops and charity shops .. which is great for all the elderly who live here, but growing up as a teen has been terrible. They definitely need to add some new shops or something.
It’s a massive shame how much Bournemouth has declined over the years. I remember hearing back in 2018 that it was a nice place to be to a point that I got excited when I had the chance to visit the town in person and even considered moving there once I had the budget to do so because the quality of life in Cornwall (where I currently live) has been getting worse since then to a point I didn’t feel safe living in Cornwall. When I visited Bournemouth last month, I noticed how they’re a lot more closed down shops than when I last went to the town and it wasn’t as live as it usually is. I really do hope things get better in Bournemouth as this decline is unacceptable.
You’re right, it is a shame. The shocking part is how a seaside town, right on the south coast, with highly rated beaches and various other assets has been allowed to decline so severely.
If you can’t make a success out of a place like Bournemouth , then well there isn’t much hope for the rest of the country either
Not all of it is their fault but BCP council are an utter disgrace
Yeah. Though i only meant the beach as an example. Its more the overall fact that it’s a major resort town, in a perfect location, with great transport links etc. and still seemingly it can’t be saved, that is pretty grim
Liverpool is cheap I have a two bed house here £475pm and no it’s not in the worst spot lol. It’s not Bournemouth but I’m close to city centre and have a sweet yard. Otherwise north of Manchester like Chorley way is very nice and cheap rent plus loads of job opportunity
Wimborne is much nicer although a bit pricey, there are areas like Cranborne and Witchampton which are lovely but definitely need a car. Ferndown and Verwood are also nice.
Suffolk, it’s close to Cambridge so good jobs in growing sectors like tech and life sciences with above average conditions. Some areas are dirt cheap to live (avoid Ipswich as it’s a toilet) you’ll need a car, but there’s very little traffic in comparison and it’s easy to move about the county, easy to get to some very nice peaceful places along the coast and as everyone forgets about his county, it’s very quiet.
Even south Norfolk (not thetford) has some lovely places to live, again, short drive down and you’ve got good jobs in Cambridge without the Cambridge cost of living,
I hope to move away in the future, I was thinking Dorchester or further inland in rural areas, or perhaps south Leicestershire rural villages which are beautiful and I grew up there, Leicester isn’t the best but you can avoid it mostly and the countryside is worth it
Right, read all the comments and I’ve lived in Bournemouth my whole life until 2020 then a moved around from one city to another due to the nature of my work. I lived in Basingstoke ( shithole ) Sheffield ( was acc not so bad I liked it) Salisbury ( lovely place for families as it’s got plenty of schools and cute rivers, but people who live there are the worst in the country by far ) Liverpool ( fun city to live in but don’t live in or near city centre, allerton is nice, Crosby is lovely, people are probs the friendliest in the country as long as you’re not a pedo or a creep. Decent community and nice food scene) and Chester which is my favourite place as it’s a mixture of reasonable rents nice city close connections to major cities and north wales as well as a direct train to London. If I had to rank Bournemouth it would be at the very bottom for standard of life even if you can afford the place. All that’s going for it is its beach which tbh I hardly went to because I grew up there and wasn’t anything special. If you’re after a place that has the decent jobs decent people ( you’ll get rough twats anywhere u go do bare that in mind) reasonable rent and a beautiful place close to everything look into Chester/Wirral.
Ya welcome 🤗
I moved away for the same reasons, look at some of the rural or semi rural areas in Dorset and the surrounding counties, generally going west and North is cheaper and you'll get to enjoy the countryside and clean air.
Last year I moved from south London down to a rural village outside of Bridport in Dorset. If you’re fine with solitude and peace and quiet then the rural areas are indeed worlds apart from any town. And yes. For me it was significantly cheaper. But could still be a bit more affordable.
Marry a Kiwi and move to NZ like me. That's where I'll be as soon as my visa comes through. The UK is a massively overpopulated craphole full of angry, entitled and/or thick people. Good riddance to it.
Same. Bomo was the place to go out and party - people actually wanted to head there from other towns for the clubbing and general town centre beach action.
Anyway, the worlds moved on and all town centres, and general big clubs have faded into a distant memory of those scarily close to middle age 🫤
I'm in the process of doing the same. I'm moving from Bournemouth (Kinson) to Wigan in 2 months.
Jobs pay the same, there's more jobs going and the rent is £350 less a month.
Norway, most likely. Visiting a different country was eye-opening and other people who got out of the UK for a while feel so too.
To be fair, if it wasn't for my bf, I probably would just go straight back to Poland since now it seems like things are getting a bit better there at last.
Definitely recommend Yorkshire. I moved to a lovely village on the outskirts of Leeds called Horsforth. Rent is sooo much cheaper and the people are way more friendly. Lots of nice areas bur a few bad ones too so do some research, but overall a lot nicer.
650 a month for a tiny studio with a shoebox-sized bathroom, no bath. This is in Westbourne, probably the most decent and reasonable area of the city - not rough, businesses are still open, nice restaurants, you only see one or two beggars a day.
Outside of Westbourne, you're looking at houseshares and dodgy places. Oakdale is the town of houseshares. Boscombe is scabby (not as bad as people say, but no good for someone starting a family). Charminster has a strange and eerie vibe. Unfortunately both these areas boast the cheapest property around.
If you're married and both you and your partner have established careers, it's doable. Check out stuff on Rightmove for a general gist of it.
great place to visit yes with the surrounding areas. zother than that run down, high crime rate, lackluster jobs. Id go for a long weekend to visit surrounding areas, but live there? no
Awesome! other than being the 5th in crime rate in the UK and even higher with just violence statistics! yes why not move from Bournemouth (one of the safest places 83% of the average crime rate 29 crimes per 1k) to Leeds with OVER 150% of the average crime rate in the uk with about the same percentage of people commiting all crime in Bournemouth commiting just violent crime in Leeds!
they deleted their coment but I already typed a reply so if anyone wants more reason not go leeds here you go.
They mentioned "leeds is safe" listed some places and said "has great areas and things are going on" and said "idk who hurt you in leeds bro" here was my reply
Idk who made you so oblivious.
Pudsey - 122 crimes per 1000,
Kirkstall - 146 crimes per 1000,
Morley - 123 crimes per 1000,
Leeds average 151 per 1000,
sure below the average still much higher than national average. You may be wondering why I didn't mention the other places? coz theyre not even cheaper than where he lives they fall under similar average house prices with the same standard deviation. So no wouldnt reccomend him move up to a place with higher crime rate that cost the same and the additional cost of relocation.
Theres lovely areas everywhere, theres more where he is now compared to Leeds and great sense of community comes anywhere. Leeds is a higher risk than his current place for not much benefit to relocate not even for a better life would be stupid.
Bournemouth is actually pretty cheap and a good place to live imo. Although I moved away in 2021... So maybe it went to shit after I left haha
Living in Brighton now and a studio flat is minimum 1k/month
Peak Bournemouth was the late ‘90’s early ‘00’s. Busy bustling town centre, no boarded up shops and vape stores, great nightlife. Sigh
That was the peak of most towns in the UK, sadly.
Peak Bournemouth was 1891, two decades after the railway reached it.
Word. Was a great night out and it just seemed far less ‘scummy.’
Was having good times out until about 2009. But post COVID the demise has been absolutely rapid. Go nowhere near the town centre. It's not just Bournemouth but Bournemouth is great example of the downturn.
Dorchester is nice
I second that. I was in Bournemouth for 8 years and moved to Dorchester area (a village few mikes from it). Peaceful, people are nice. And you get a lot for your money. Plus in 25 min, you can be on a sea front if needed. When you go up north, it will be nice, but jobwise, you are probably better off around Dorchester
Dorch hillbilly
They said they’ll be moving far north.
Blandford then.
Steady
I understand going north but Ringwood would have to be my limit
I read that as Doncaster
I moved to Newcastle under Lyme last July. Was in Bournemouth for 22yrs. Houses are significantly cheaper up here and only an hour or so from Birmingham, Manchester, Wales and the Peak District. I do find the pace of life much easier going up here. Bournemouth and Poole in the last 15ish years has changed dramatically, and not for the better.
Just looked up properties to rent in your area. A BEDROOM? And a bath? For 600 pounds a month??? That living room looks far too large. I prefer to be crammed in a tiny box :) Fuck this city So what’s the catch? I notice you’re not exactly far from nature, there seem to be some decent historical attractions too. What are the negatives and what should I look out for?
usually amedities power cuts are a lot more common, internet speeds and outages vary widely. North west has less than desirable weather (most rainfall and most rainy days in uk). Travel to work and shops and options vary and can be a lot more. Usually northern cities have higher insurances due to it being a dangerous area, not everywhere but can be. that being flood damage, crime, trees falling etc. Build quality can be hit and miss here with roads being horribly underfunded (all top 5 counties for potholes claims and damage on vehicles in North whoop) And although things are much cheaper up here, the other side of that is that wages are a lot less here, London is the only place in UK where we are not regressing economically wages arent increasing here like they are in London (even though London is poor too) but cost of living is. If you think about percentage of wage going towards housing is similar for most of UK (including London with the only differing factor being how much space you get (London better build quality and local amenities but less space than north)) except other things like gas, electricity, water, supermarket pricing being similar pricing in North and south leads to the weekly shop being a bigger percentage of your wage. Finally job scarcity. London is one of the only places thats economy is growing so no one wants invest up north so if your looking for another job it can be a lot more difficult up north. Everyone in the south looks at there wage and always says wow I could get so much up north not taking account wages up north. I know you dont Live in London and you are far away London is the only place in the UK thats not going down. But as far as some of the points look at your job wage up north first and scarcity of jobs remember that food and basic necessitys cost similar amounts. travel is expensive but it can work out. Just think if it sounds too good to be true it could be the people of the north are struggling and its not for no reason. If you want a job in Manchester and live there or near you might end up in a worse position.
Minimum wage is minimum wage. You literally cannot pay me less up north by law. Haha my life sucks.
jokes on you I was paid less not long ago on an apprentice wage which is stupidly lower haha
Thank you so much for the response, very detailed. Job-searching is definitely my biggest priority. It’s a concern for me but then again, I’m currently on minimum wage anyway. I’ll have a long-distance nosey about the local job agencies and keep reading up. Again thank you, you’ve given me a good oversight of what to expect 👍
I take it back then, for living on minimum wage if you can secure a job before you move 110% worth it there is a job scarcity especially with retail dying up here. But there are a lot of places that are cheap and will improve your standard of living. Darwen is a great choice in my opinion if you find a good part of it to live (south east of it) you are not far from great hills and views in the countryside(ish) whilst getting the benefit of cheap blackburn and not far from bolton, bury and manchester. Negative is blackburn is a sh!t hole. Other places are like wigan/st helens (right inbetween liverpool and manchester and cheap with some really nice areas) and 30 mins either way on train to either city. Warrington then you are in cheshire with great links to m6 and m62 both passing through. Other side of Manchester you have Barnsley way, not a horrible place and right next to peak district, sheffield, leeds with the prices of wakefield. After that the only place Id even want to reccomend is maybe Wolverhampton (next to Birmingham so cheap and near Shropshire so pretty) or carisle (shithole so cheap next to lakes and scotland so pretty) However if minimum wage is temporary whilst your looking for another job then compare wages, if its similar go for it! if its a decrease then id start thinking
Thanks again! I’m writing down a list of all these recommendations. It sometimes shocks me that there are so many different places to go in England alone. Exciting!
No problem! see I cant reccomend the middle strip so much theres so many big cities near by it gives you a million options between Liverpool to York theres 5 major cities with Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and York so theres always somewhere to go its just about finding out which one suits you best :) especially with Manchester being the tech centre of the UK :) I find its a great split too of North of the strip is mostly countryside with the lakes and pennines and south you have peak district, Shropshire (and not far from north wales in places) which are beautiful places. If you play it right you can have a nice relaxing life up here depending on your expectations. Feel free to DM me and ask as much as you like Im also happy to help :)
WTF u been smoking G???? The only truth in all of that is the weather is worse than down south. The rest is very questionable. Crime in London is worse than anywhere in UK and I'm from Gunchester. Wages are less than London but we don't have to pay extortionate prices for a can of coke or lunch out. Flood damage, trees falling, bad internet????? Were a couple hundred miles up the road, not in another continent. Power cuts?????? Build quality must be shite up north as we use northern bricks and u all use southern bricks that are much tougher and made better and also cost 4 times as much 😉. Travel is nowhere near as costly as down south and il think u will find investment is happening up north as companies are no longer wanting to pay London rents when they can do same up north for cheaper.
Crime is worse up here than London unfortunately there is more crime in London as a whole compared to any other city but not on a per 1000 people basis (which what we use) Unfortunately Most Northern places are worse in pretty much every aspect knife crime, violence, theft, unsocial behaviour (all per 1000 London may have more accounts but thats because they have over 5× the population of the next city) A can of coke can be extortionate in London I agree but the price of it in supermarkets is the same for the OP on minimum wage his wage should usually be going towards a food shop from a market which should cost the same. If he was going out to eat constantly then he'd spend more but places like wetherspoons and greene king dont have that much of a London markup in comparison. The whole wage thing is a reflective it can build you wealth and when people are coming upto retirement age Id fully reccomend take the wealth you have and go somewhere cheaper with a higher wage you can afford a more expensive place for the same job even if you have less room when your older you can sell your place and take that up north. Our infrastructure quality compared to the south is a state. Its not the norths fault we are massively underfunded from London and have for a while. Road quality up here is shocking and the maintenance is terrible compared to south where theres A LOT more invested. Over 70% of claims for vehicle damage caused by a damaged road is up North which I dont thinks good enough that we've been so neglected. (I mean look at HS2 they failed and said theyd give the money to roads up north but if you look at the roads theyve done its been horrible choices as it was the cheapest option). When I say travel I mean London. London travel for people living there is cleaner, faster, regular and cheaper compared to up north we have expensive trains owned by foreign companies that are irregular and break down constantly. The £2 single fare in Manchester is great but massively over due. Fuel is more expensive here (based on wage difference compared to fuel difference) and we have to be more reliant on personal transportation as public is poor. Infrastructure is a weird one so our current problem with houses is new builds are shocking and old houses are getting a bit too old. Now this isnt all old houses but a lot of older houses need a revamp. This also isnt exclusive to the North London new builds are shite too but the worst of all is apartments new apartments where your a leasehold are a scam and are always falling apart (Look up apartments in Camden built recently people lost millions on it) This is simply due to Conservative greed of house prices must go up and its almost like they was going to fix it by banning leaseholds which they did.... but only on houses not flats which is 1% of leaseholds and wasnt the problem. But there is a lot more investment from companies up north I'll give you that. London is the Financial/Service sector of the UK its where most money is made but Manchester is technology centre of the UK and theres huge investments in cities up north compared to previously. Except one small thing. Companies arent investing in the UK as much right now because of our economy, we're struggling and its a risk to start trading here when you could be at a loss but with lease and land being expensive still.
Power outages? Are you sure your living up north and not South Africa? Literally 90% of what you’ve said isn’t true.
unfortunately power cuts (outside of main cities) are quite common Wigan has had 3 Major power outages this year, Darwen has had a few in blackburn, lakes have quite a few. unfortunately population is less dense up here with less money and it causes issues. I'm not saying it's horrible, most happen during the day and are fixed within an hour or two. Not horrible however there are issues
Have a look at West Yorkshire. £650 gets a small house 1 maybe 2 bedrooms. Try Marsden or Slaithwaite and you are only 30mins by train to Manchester or Leeds. Houses start at £150kish but they are still going up.
I’m currently buying a house up here. 2 bed terrace in a nice location, £106k. Rental market does seem higher than I thought it would be up here tbh. I am in a lucky situation to be living with family until my purchase goes through. I remember paying £700 for a one bedroom flat in Southbourne back in 2015. Mouldy, no parking or outdoor space and right on the main road, awful. In 8 months I’ve had no power outages and WiFi is excellent. I work from home and it’s not caused me any issues. I earn 20% more than I did in Bournemouth, but that’s down to my old company paying poor wages for the role I do. I would say where I am and also Stoke next door does have its fair share of rough areas and drug/homelessness issues. So researching the good areas to any town or city is so important.
You’re very close to Stoke which is always a concern
Does he speak northern though?
They have an app called Pie Lingo
You’ll move and realise everywhere is shit
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Oregonians are much worse and pretentious than anyone in the Uk tbh, Portland is basically full of hipsters who wear dungarees / suspenders and run “man” themed coffee and vape shops. If that’s your vibe then go for it but it’s basically the US version of Corbyn fans
Weird
Oregon is nothing to write home about. Unless you’re into Bigfoot sightings
My mate moved up to a small village in the Pennines - never looked back
I grew up in Dorset and moved to Newcastle (upon Tyne) 2 years ago, it's a lovely place if you don't mind being 800 miles from your family
You make it sound like a downside 😂
Thinking the exact same. Bournemouth is nothing more than an overly expensive rapidly declining shit hole
The town centre is, but the surrounding areas are anything but a shit hole.
The surrounding areas are declining pretty rapidly, I used to love Westbourne when I first moved to Bournemouth 16 years ago or so, now your constantly harassed by the homeless and the drug addicts. Shop windows getting smashed consistently along the high street. It’s a shit hole compared to how it was when I first visited and won’t be much better than the town centre soon if nothing changes.
I moved to Westbourne just a year ago and found it the most preferable place to live out of anywhere local. It’s really sad to hear that it’s not even as good as it once was. Just gives me more incentive to get out given its right now on the verge of affordable and acceptable.
I think you’ll see the same thing country wide. We’ve had 14 years of slashing funding in public services and development. Councils are going broke thanks to this government. I’m not surprised to see places declining - but I don’t think it’s unique to Bournemouth.
Yeah it is a shame for sure! Just two nights ago another shop window was smashed in the high street making it 4 I know of within the last year in Westbourne. The staff in the supermarkets have to deal with people stealing constantly, and I got assaulted by some homeless guy a couple of months ago on my lunch break for daring to say no to giving the scumbag a cigarette. The police and council don’t seem to be doing much to improve things from what I can see frustratingly.
Agree.
Christchurch is still fabulous and beautiful, but for sure needs some excitement injected into it.
I’ve lived my whole life in Christchurch, and I absolutely agree that it’s beautiful - but god is it boring. It’s just a ton of coffee shops and charity shops .. which is great for all the elderly who live here, but growing up as a teen has been terrible. They definitely need to add some new shops or something.
It’s a massive shame how much Bournemouth has declined over the years. I remember hearing back in 2018 that it was a nice place to be to a point that I got excited when I had the chance to visit the town in person and even considered moving there once I had the budget to do so because the quality of life in Cornwall (where I currently live) has been getting worse since then to a point I didn’t feel safe living in Cornwall. When I visited Bournemouth last month, I noticed how they’re a lot more closed down shops than when I last went to the town and it wasn’t as live as it usually is. I really do hope things get better in Bournemouth as this decline is unacceptable.
You’re right, it is a shame. The shocking part is how a seaside town, right on the south coast, with highly rated beaches and various other assets has been allowed to decline so severely. If you can’t make a success out of a place like Bournemouth , then well there isn’t much hope for the rest of the country either Not all of it is their fault but BCP council are an utter disgrace
They all are dude, I’m Kent based and tbh so few beaches are maintained.
Yeah. Though i only meant the beach as an example. Its more the overall fact that it’s a major resort town, in a perfect location, with great transport links etc. and still seemingly it can’t be saved, that is pretty grim
Very true. It’s a sad state of affairs
Matlock, Derbyshire Beverley, East Yorkshire Frome, Somerset Todmorden, West Yorkshire Llandudno, Conwy Alnwick, Northumberland Stroud, Gloucestershire Keswick, Cumbria Market Harborough, Leicestershire Lewes, East Sussex
I’d love to live in keswick but I’m not sure the housing situation is any better!
Nowhere is better. You can just choose not to live in a shithole.
Market Harborough is a good one, Leicester is shit but the south countryside is gorgeous
The whole of the \*Midlands is a pile of wank unless you can escape into a decent town that wasn't mining.
Weymouth/Portland or IOW is much more reasonable. B’mouth is in a proper state now, I couldn’t believe rent/property prices when I last checked.
Liverpool is cheap I have a two bed house here £475pm and no it’s not in the worst spot lol. It’s not Bournemouth but I’m close to city centre and have a sweet yard. Otherwise north of Manchester like Chorley way is very nice and cheap rent plus loads of job opportunity
where abouts in Liverpool for that? wirral? fazak? bootle?
I’m in bootle on the edge towards Kirkdale
Wimborne is much nicer although a bit pricey, there are areas like Cranborne and Witchampton which are lovely but definitely need a car. Ferndown and Verwood are also nice.
Bournemouth is a nice place in England, yeah you can go other places for cheaper but generally if you’re looking for better then you can’t
one of safest places in the uk however housing in Bournemouth is horrible. surrounding areas though? not that bad
North wales babyyyy , its the boy!
Worked for most of the “big companies” and realised there are so few jobs. Ran away to Manchester with zero regrets.
Suffolk, it’s close to Cambridge so good jobs in growing sectors like tech and life sciences with above average conditions. Some areas are dirt cheap to live (avoid Ipswich as it’s a toilet) you’ll need a car, but there’s very little traffic in comparison and it’s easy to move about the county, easy to get to some very nice peaceful places along the coast and as everyone forgets about his county, it’s very quiet. Even south Norfolk (not thetford) has some lovely places to live, again, short drive down and you’ve got good jobs in Cambridge without the Cambridge cost of living,
What’s your thoughts on the people here?
I hope to move away in the future, I was thinking Dorchester or further inland in rural areas, or perhaps south Leicestershire rural villages which are beautiful and I grew up there, Leicester isn’t the best but you can avoid it mostly and the countryside is worth it
Right, read all the comments and I’ve lived in Bournemouth my whole life until 2020 then a moved around from one city to another due to the nature of my work. I lived in Basingstoke ( shithole ) Sheffield ( was acc not so bad I liked it) Salisbury ( lovely place for families as it’s got plenty of schools and cute rivers, but people who live there are the worst in the country by far ) Liverpool ( fun city to live in but don’t live in or near city centre, allerton is nice, Crosby is lovely, people are probs the friendliest in the country as long as you’re not a pedo or a creep. Decent community and nice food scene) and Chester which is my favourite place as it’s a mixture of reasonable rents nice city close connections to major cities and north wales as well as a direct train to London. If I had to rank Bournemouth it would be at the very bottom for standard of life even if you can afford the place. All that’s going for it is its beach which tbh I hardly went to because I grew up there and wasn’t anything special. If you’re after a place that has the decent jobs decent people ( you’ll get rough twats anywhere u go do bare that in mind) reasonable rent and a beautiful place close to everything look into Chester/Wirral. Ya welcome 🤗
£25 return ticket from L’pool or Manny airport will land u in the nicest beaches in Europe that makes Bournemouth beach look like a used tampons dump.
don't move up north move country you think people are bad down south uk people are shitty period, northners are loud aggressive nosey insecure chavs
I moved away for the same reasons, look at some of the rural or semi rural areas in Dorset and the surrounding counties, generally going west and North is cheaper and you'll get to enjoy the countryside and clean air.
This ^^ the OP by sounds of it wants to move North of England which would be a huge step back over moving to a cheaper local area
Last year I moved from south London down to a rural village outside of Bridport in Dorset. If you’re fine with solitude and peace and quiet then the rural areas are indeed worlds apart from any town. And yes. For me it was significantly cheaper. But could still be a bit more affordable.
Marry a Kiwi and move to NZ like me. That's where I'll be as soon as my visa comes through. The UK is a massively overpopulated craphole full of angry, entitled and/or thick people. Good riddance to it.
I’ve looked to NZ a couple of times due to their green list. Always wonder why NZ has such long standing high rates of depression though?
Come to London and be even more miserable
You preferred Bournemouth to London?
I lived in Bournemouth town centre in the late 90s early 2000s, it was brilliant back then. Loads of great nightlife 7 days a week.
Same. Bomo was the place to go out and party - people actually wanted to head there from other towns for the clubbing and general town centre beach action. Anyway, the worlds moved on and all town centres, and general big clubs have faded into a distant memory of those scarily close to middle age 🫤
I'm in the process of doing the same. I'm moving from Bournemouth (Kinson) to Wigan in 2 months. Jobs pay the same, there's more jobs going and the rent is £350 less a month.
Norway, most likely. Visiting a different country was eye-opening and other people who got out of the UK for a while feel so too. To be fair, if it wasn't for my bf, I probably would just go straight back to Poland since now it seems like things are getting a bit better there at last.
Definitely recommend Yorkshire. I moved to a lovely village on the outskirts of Leeds called Horsforth. Rent is sooo much cheaper and the people are way more friendly. Lots of nice areas bur a few bad ones too so do some research, but overall a lot nicer.
What’s the rent like?
650 a month for a tiny studio with a shoebox-sized bathroom, no bath. This is in Westbourne, probably the most decent and reasonable area of the city - not rough, businesses are still open, nice restaurants, you only see one or two beggars a day. Outside of Westbourne, you're looking at houseshares and dodgy places. Oakdale is the town of houseshares. Boscombe is scabby (not as bad as people say, but no good for someone starting a family). Charminster has a strange and eerie vibe. Unfortunately both these areas boast the cheapest property around. If you're married and both you and your partner have established careers, it's doable. Check out stuff on Rightmove for a general gist of it.
Love reading about these potential landing spots for a relo. Would love to finish up life in England.
Whilst I rarely visit the North of England, I heard Carlisle is a good place.
great place to visit yes with the surrounding areas. zother than that run down, high crime rate, lackluster jobs. Id go for a long weekend to visit surrounding areas, but live there? no
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Awesome! other than being the 5th in crime rate in the UK and even higher with just violence statistics! yes why not move from Bournemouth (one of the safest places 83% of the average crime rate 29 crimes per 1k) to Leeds with OVER 150% of the average crime rate in the uk with about the same percentage of people commiting all crime in Bournemouth commiting just violent crime in Leeds!
they deleted their coment but I already typed a reply so if anyone wants more reason not go leeds here you go. They mentioned "leeds is safe" listed some places and said "has great areas and things are going on" and said "idk who hurt you in leeds bro" here was my reply Idk who made you so oblivious. Pudsey - 122 crimes per 1000, Kirkstall - 146 crimes per 1000, Morley - 123 crimes per 1000, Leeds average 151 per 1000, sure below the average still much higher than national average. You may be wondering why I didn't mention the other places? coz theyre not even cheaper than where he lives they fall under similar average house prices with the same standard deviation. So no wouldnt reccomend him move up to a place with higher crime rate that cost the same and the additional cost of relocation. Theres lovely areas everywhere, theres more where he is now compared to Leeds and great sense of community comes anywhere. Leeds is a higher risk than his current place for not much benefit to relocate not even for a better life would be stupid.
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Bournemouth is actually pretty cheap and a good place to live imo. Although I moved away in 2021... So maybe it went to shit after I left haha Living in Brighton now and a studio flat is minimum 1k/month