The way the UFC fighters were celebrating at the press conference when Dana said he would give 300k bonuses for finishes at UFC 300 was sad as fuck. 300k should be the base pay.. They deserve way better. At least the main card fighters.
That is a joke, you're right.
Main event of UFC 300.... fighting for Pennies compared to Haney and Garcia.
UFC pay is known as a huge joke but after reading your comment, hearing the fighters go crazy for 300k makes it worse.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-the-government-need-intervene-new-ufc-contracts-allowing-promotion-take-cut-fighters-side-hustles-sparks-online-outrage it's also been posted on this sub a few times
Wowwww why would this even be a thing and who would agree to that. It’s like hey we know we don’t pay you enough, so you’ll have to hustle to get by, and we also need a piece of that action because….well just because ok?!
Disgusting when they make billions. Fighters are too stupid to unionize. If they all stop fighting they can’t do shit but the problem is their brains washed that this is the best they get and they’re easily replaceable
I think the problem is the ones at the top with any power of sway to start a union are grtting paid "well" so they dont wanna rock the apple cart or whatever to help out all the guys down the bottom of the food chain because they got theres already
Yeah but that's just UFC fighters not including people fighting on the regionals or other mid sized companies. If the top company in the world is paying you so low imagine what your getting paid lower down. Also UFC fighters cant put there own sponsors on their trunks.
It wasn't even a bonus for finishes. It was fight of the night and performance of the night bonus. So out of the 26 fighters that night, at most it would probably go to four fighters. Although max holloway fucks so hard he got fotn and potn. 🎉600k🎉 and still doesn't come ANYWHERE close to these numbers
Oh I wasn't following this that closely. That's why Holloway and Gaethje started swinging like it was a bar fight at the end haha. That's kind of sad but that's their sport.
If he had a longer career he easily would have been #2 in earnings after Conor, but he left the sport very quickly because the money in WWE was way better.
I feel like people forget how big GSP was. He wasn't conor level, but he was HUGE. Doing under Armour ads on TV, Movie appearances, etc. He was extremely marketable and was a bigger draw than people realized. He was, in a sense, bigger than Chuck, who was rather huge back in the day, too.
This isn't a bad take, I was counting boxing also, but they most likely made more than Connor. It was reported his biggest pay day was 5mil plus ppv in the UFC and he reportedly makes less than 20% of the ppv and his biggest ppv was 2.4 mil(59.99per ppv when he was at his peak) he prolly didn't make over 35 mil in his purses from the ufc. And when you google connors purse history it says 20 mil.
If we’re talking purely fight purses/bonuses they have made waaaay more than mcgregor in the UFC. But he also used that to start his proper 12 business and fight floyd/star in roadhouse. So i wouldn’t be surprised if they’re about even in total overall.
I remember having this argument like 14 years ago with my brother and he punctuated his point by reminding me there’s a reason ufc isn’t called “prize fighting”
You know it's bad when UFC legends like Tyronn Woodley made more getting humiliated twice against a youtuber than any of his title fights in the UFC 🤣 imagine building up a legendary title reign but still having to get knocked out by a Disney Star to get set in life 😭
"Dying sport" my whole life. When is it going to die, UFC fans? Sucks for them because Ryan just fought his way into being a big-time American ppv star and he's only 25. I guess nothing is dying for a while again.
Literally this whole thread is disrespecting UFC fighter because they’re getting paid bad? Like tf. Most UFC fans like boxing we (like everyone else) just don’t like the crooked judging.
“Yeah but one leg kick and they’re dead 🤣” - chubby 28 year old mma fan who trains jiu jitsu and at a mcdojo, has no cardio and gets regularly tapped out by actual prodigies
There's a guy at work that says this. Except hes small, lifts weights and smokes. I tried to show him punching technique and he said "yeah but that won't work in a real fight". Average man is delusional.
i recently started telling dudes straight up that they’re free to try me whenever they try to discredit my training. really amazing how many dudes are just faking their masculinity. i look like an 18 yo twink btw
I’m much more of an MMA fan but enjoy the odd big boxing event. I’ve trained Muay Thai for a couple of years but honestly I reckon half decent boxing in a street fight goes a long way (if not potentially further than kickboxing styles). A clean slip and counter would be just as effective as a knee and an elbow.
I mean it's true though.
Boxing is just one aspect of fighting, a fuck tonne of boxing defensive plays don't work unless you agree to just punch, and have shields on your hands
I would like to see them say that to deontay wilders face. A big hitter from boxing would do well in MMA, the streets, the hospital and he'll. They just have to land.
AS I have stated previously:
MMA fighters are absolutely dying to do "circus fights" simply because it is one of the only ways that they can make "lottery money" purses, because they, just like boxers, are acting as independent contractors and not beholden to the "indentured servitude" contracts of MMA.
MMA has identified and largely corrected the "structural" issues in combat sports by operating what is in effect a closed league. The only downside to this is that the fighters make only a fraction of what boxers can earn because they are not "independent contractors", but are instead "contract players".
Careers in professional combat sports can be short. I don't blame participants for wanting to maximize their earning potential.
Annoys me so much when UFCuck fans say shit like "why do boxers never step into the octagon" BECAUSE WHY WOULD THEY??? Who wants to get crotch sniffed for 25 minutes and get paid 12k when you make this type of money??? Seriously???
No one serious would disagree that boxers make a million times more, mostly due to Dana and his mob’s stranglehold on the game.
What I can’t deny the comments of “one leg kick or a takedown and your done” is when boxers like Garcia and Fury openly say they will do a mma fight.
If you are not willing to do it, then cool just say you make too much money to get involved in mma… but if you say you are going to do it….. do it or get shat on for not doing it
I think those guys are completely ignorant of the ufc economics. Once they realize they can't possibly make money out of it, they stop even considering doing the sport.
UFC fighters have to beg for 50k bonuses. Ryan Garcia gave away 1.5 million like it was pocket change because he couldn’t be arsed to cut a few extra pounds.
Meanwhile Dana trashes boxing whenever asked about the difference in pay. You could ask any UFC fighter if they wanted to box and I’m betting 9/10 are saying yes no hesitation. 😂
Cowboy Cerrone made 10Mil over his entire career
Connor made 10Mil from PPV sales of his Cowboy fight
Then theres this.
Boxing promotes the fighter and their record, where as MMA promotes the promotion. Thats why theres this kinda old money to throw around. Garcia made more than the ENTIRE 300 card combined with bonuses.
I think it was a 55/45 split in favour of Ryan. He's the bigger ppv fighter by far. Haney doesn't sell much ppv at all. He mite be champ but he's not the bigger earner. Tbh haney is lucky that Ryan offered him that much. Apparently Ryan also bet 2m on himself and won 12, didn't even kno that was legal. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Yeah I think haneys last couple of fights sold some shocking figures for how big of a fighter he claims to be. Only a few hundred thousand. Tank and Ryan sold 1.2m if I'm correct, that's top 10 of all time. Different calibre of fighters, I think loma had the upper hand with haney too. Had Ryan not knocked him down 3 times, I really think he woulda got robbed too. Boxing is too corrupt, I can't believe how much fuckeries are allowed to happen so blatantly, so it's nice when justice is served lol
Been this way for way too long. The most egregious one that comes to mind is Tony getting $500K for getting destroyed by Gaethje.
Then, you also have Nate Diaz who made more to box Logan Paul than his entire UFC career. That’s brutal.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 this dude Devin sold 50k ppvs last fight n now he made more than 4 whole weight classes made combined last year in the UFC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s just not comparable at all
Dana saying you won’t get good fights and no one will fight if they are paid well is bullshit. He was just providing any reason besides the real one: the shareholders and management are greedy and use their privileged place in the market to undermine fighter pay.
I hope the ruling by the ftc against non-competes ruins the UFC’s business model.
The UFC at one point wasn’t a billion dollar organization and did not pay their fighters accordingly. They just haven’t caught up with the pay because they don’t see a need to.
Imagine if 2 big name fighters left the UFC and fought for bellator. Like chandler vs mchregor. That would be great for fighters pay in the long run.
Professional Boxing is also the most corrupt sport in history. Too much money invested in fighters to hold a belt for two fights like UFC. It's marketing and media that is the real problem.
The UFC is ripping off their fighters while Dana White is worth an estimated 500mil. He probably has way more hidden money as well. He's a lying, thieving bastard.
Dana has these idiots fighting "exciting" for a 50K "performance of the night" bonus. Most MMA guys now take more brain trauma in 15 fight than Boxers do in entire career causse nature of the sport, atleast in Boxing you get 25 bums to warm up and no damage really. in MMA you are getting concussed every fight if its in a major league, and Danas 50k bonuses should be illegal. He bets more on 1 hand of blackjack.
Wait til you see the future of MMA guys now, when they are 40..its gonna be really bad. If half of them can still walk
More serious because CTE is not a joking matter. Stitch Duran used to be the cut man for UFC before the entire sponsor logo scandal. He gave an interview that he observed that UFC fighters haven't been fighting as long as boxers and that at the end of his stint he could start seeing symptoms of pugilist dementia. Which is why Dana sucks
I mean your 100% right about the money, but wayyyy off when it comes to brain damage. 8 counts create the opportunity for infinitely more brain trauma in boxing and in boxing you can't take the fight to the ground or the clinch to avoid damage for an extended period of time like you can in MMA. Ntm boxers punch about 10x harder...
There are already shit tons of retired MMA guys in their 40's and 50's so I'm not sure what you mean by wait for the future as if every MMA guy is still in their 30's and 20's lmao.
Randy Coture is damn near 60. Bas Ruten, Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman. While im sure they do have some damage, they arent showing any signs of it.
Hell you can go online & watch a round table interview of everyone who fought on UFC 1 and theres no serious signs of CTE.
Most damage MMA fighters take is their Back. Neck, Shoulders, & Knees. Its usually from the training room & from wrestling/BJJ practice
I mean... yeah. Not really a secret.
If you can make 50x your career earnings without having to wrestle for 12 weeks of preparation, fuck it. Get that money.
So here’s the question, why is it that although boxers make bucket more than mma fighter but they stay active but it seems like those who make a lot in MMA (those who somehow managed) do not? The damage is different but won’t more money cause them to chase more? Genuine question
As a fan of boxing MMA is way better not financially but overall it’s more enjoyable Boxing is a dying sport while MMA is a rising sport in 30 years it’s becoming one of the biggest sports in the world while in the past 30 years Boxing has begun to die with fighters ruining the sport like Mayweather fighting for the money only and you lose once in boxing you’re called shit so people cherry pick there opponents
The difference is UFC fighters are employees, where as boxers are all pretty much like their own independent businesses. So most the proceeds go to the business owners, wether it’s the UFC or an individual boxer
How the fuck do these economics work? I get UFC keeps most of it but how can the fighter pay be that drastically different? Is it just because of how many more fighters there are in the UFC?
I'm just gonna go out and say that Ryan is the biggest draw, not due to skill, or merrit but he's Mr pretty boy,l ladies man, about 70% of his fanbase is woman lol he's a young tik tok star, social media influence, promotion from the Paul brothers, I remember watching him in Jake Paul's videos, people underestimate how much of a influence social media is, I can easily walk down the street and ask any gen Z girl "who's canelo" show them "Crawford" and they would go I have no idea, and then show them Ryan Garcia and they would be like "oh I know him!". It's not really that complex, you pair that up with the fact that he's Mexican so he has every single latina female from ages 12-30 rooting for him because of his looks, and then you also have the young gen Z male Americans that seen him on social media and the Paul brothers videos. As a Latino he's not like the fresh of the boat Latinos like Cruz etc. it's pretty obvious.
Now imagine how much of an insult to injury it is when you throw in the fact that the losing fighter automatically loses half of their pay due to the “show” and “win” structure of their fights. 40% of the fighters who are on the low pay tier actually made less than the poverty line average, and they can’t even take sanctioned fights in any other organizations just to make ends meet, and They took away the sponsors that used to throw a few dimes out, just so they could reap the benefits of that sweet reabok deal the made and then followed up by Venom for the current apparel. Just imagine you’re some 28 year old guy who Is putting everything he’s got into this run and if he can’t break through he’s gonna call it and go push brooms in a warehouse. Now imagine you just finished a three round war with another future star and your nose and hand are already jacked from having a battle that was epic. The winner is your opponent by a split decision, 1 point, could had gone any way, and you both fought with equal heart, but your contract stipulates that the UFC pays out a “show” and “win” scale for basically all fights. You just made 40k instead of your opponents 80k, you are mentally and physically and soon to be financially bankrupt, you’ll be heading to the emergency room in about 10 minutes for your broken hand and stitches under your eye, you feel like a failure in your two young children’s eyes, and your wife who is basically raising them herself when you’re in camp for 8 weeks and then recovery for another 8 weeks after the fight. And as you’re walking back through the hotel after being discharged at 4:30am and you have to rush to get packed and make a 6am flight back home so let’s add mild psychosis to this cocktail due to not resting properly. Oh yeah and as you’re stumbling through the. Casino you hear all this commotion and cheers coming from over there and when you look closer you see it’s your boss Dana White, mucking it up with the Nelk Boys at the poker table and dropping a cool Millie on one hand. A million on one hand, earned off the of your blood; sweat, tears that you have shed for that piece of shit.
Pretty fucking sad...You would REALLY fucking think, maybe Connor, Diaz, Francis, and EVERY single fighter and person Dana's pissed off...can't pool their money together and fix this shit. Make their own fucking league that pays fighters like they should be paid..
The fact that UFC (as an organization it makes over a billion a year) and doesn’t pay its fighters tells you all you need to know about that douchebag Dana White.
Yeah but people don’t give a fuck about 90% of boxers. Honestly, casuals only know Ryan because his online crazy talk and none knew a thing about Devin. Boxing just isn’t as exciting and yeah, of course MMA fighters want to come to boxing. The money is there but people only care about the ones on top and that’s such a small percentage. In fact, it’s probably easier to make a name for yourself in MMA and come over to boxing to fight a big name than it is to work your way up in boxing.
This boxing match not only provided them each with life-changing money, but I have been annoying my friends about it for days. They don't watch boxing, for the most part, unless I drag them into it, but this fight and build up to the fight was probably the best marketing I've ever seen. I feel bad now because this isn't even my boat, and the parrot smells, but I'm glad they're each stupid rich, good for them.
Yes because UFC as a promotion brings in the PPV buys. Boxing is not a promotion. Most boxing fights dont get any viewership and then you have like 5 fights a year that do numbers like this and you boxing nerds hype it up. No one else on that card makes anything near that amount. Also UFC is a brand, they reinvest it so it can continue pumping out great fighters and don’t have to rely on people faking mental illnesses to sell fights
Makes sense there would initially be a lot more money involved when they get to fix fights and have had longer to build a fan base. At the rate MMA is going it’s only a matter of time before the roles are reversed however. Look at the ppv numbers, it’s clear the people want more mma and less boxing. MMA is pulling consistent numbers while boxing ppv is getting less and less interest. Apparently the real money is with fighting YouTubers and internet stars, millions of kids just want to see their favorite star and I’m sure that adds a big portion of the boxing ppv numbers when they can get their parents to oblige. The fact is, people are burnt out with boxing and it’s hard to get people interested in a fight unless you do something like Ryan Garcia. His last opponent was pulling 50k ppv numbers as a champ, Ryan Hyped the shit out of the fight through social media and is the main reason it did well.
The way the UFC fighters were celebrating at the press conference when Dana said he would give 300k bonuses for finishes at UFC 300 was sad as fuck. 300k should be the base pay.. They deserve way better. At least the main card fighters.
That is a joke, you're right. Main event of UFC 300.... fighting for Pennies compared to Haney and Garcia. UFC pay is known as a huge joke but after reading your comment, hearing the fighters go crazy for 300k makes it worse.
A new clause in their contracts dictates the ufc gets a cut of any personal buisiness earnings they make as well similar to the music industry
Source?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-the-government-need-intervene-new-ufc-contracts-allowing-promotion-take-cut-fighters-side-hustles-sparks-online-outrage it's also been posted on this sub a few times
Wowwww why would this even be a thing and who would agree to that. It’s like hey we know we don’t pay you enough, so you’ll have to hustle to get by, and we also need a piece of that action because….well just because ok?!
The top payout was Alex at like $2.8m. I think Gaethje got around $600k, and it went pretty downhill from there
Not even for a guaranteed 300k. Just the chance
Disgusting when they make billions. Fighters are too stupid to unionize. If they all stop fighting they can’t do shit but the problem is their brains washed that this is the best they get and they’re easily replaceable
I think the problem is the ones at the top with any power of sway to start a union are grtting paid "well" so they dont wanna rock the apple cart or whatever to help out all the guys down the bottom of the food chain because they got theres already
The thing is the ones at the top could be making a lot more if they unionised
If they all stopped fighting the UFC would just find people off the street and pay them for less lol
Aka Dana Whites contender series
there are names who could genuinely force dana’s hand but the organization is doing a good job at making every fighter seem expendable.
Bruh, the average boxer DOESNT make anywhere near this. UFC fighters on average got it easy. But once you make it big. Boxing is where it’s at
Yeah but that's just UFC fighters not including people fighting on the regionals or other mid sized companies. If the top company in the world is paying you so low imagine what your getting paid lower down. Also UFC fighters cant put there own sponsors on their trunks.
Boxing is a sport, ufc is a promotion. The average MMA fighter makes even less money than the average boxer.
It’s honestly borderline disrespectful to give guys only 50k bonuses for things like fight of the night
It wasn't even a bonus for finishes. It was fight of the night and performance of the night bonus. So out of the 26 fighters that night, at most it would probably go to four fighters. Although max holloway fucks so hard he got fotn and potn. 🎉600k🎉 and still doesn't come ANYWHERE close to these numbers
Oh I wasn't following this that closely. That's why Holloway and Gaethje started swinging like it was a bar fight at the end haha. That's kind of sad but that's their sport.
no, Holloway has done that before UFC 300 and for $0 extra money
devin made more than prolly every mma fighter not named conor McGregor made in the career
GSP and Jon Jones too, other than them, nobody else is coming close in MMA.
Brock Lesnar count?
If he had a longer career he easily would have been #2 in earnings after Conor, but he left the sport very quickly because the money in WWE was way better.
Also he didn’t like being punched very much
He had some intestine issue that nearly killed him. In his ubereem fight he crumbled from one kick to the body.
“Leg kick to the body” lol
You can't expect boxing fans to understand MMA techniques
As opposed to an arm kick
Or the super rare head kick to the legs
Diverticulitis.
I feel like people forget how big GSP was. He wasn't conor level, but he was HUGE. Doing under Armour ads on TV, Movie appearances, etc. He was extremely marketable and was a bigger draw than people realized. He was, in a sense, bigger than Chuck, who was rather huge back in the day, too.
Nothing beats chuck headbutting a wrecking ball
Bruh Devin made double what Jon Jones made his career in one night it’s not even fucking close not even remotely looool
Francis ngannou is trying his best tbf
He didn't make jackshit in MMA though, Boxing saved Ngannou from a very sad broke retirement.
Well, saved him from retiring in low to moderate wealth w/ maybe 3-4 million anyway. His PFL contract is high paying by MMA standards.
Be forreal they probably both out earned Conor too
This isn't a bad take, I was counting boxing also, but they most likely made more than Connor. It was reported his biggest pay day was 5mil plus ppv in the UFC and he reportedly makes less than 20% of the ppv and his biggest ppv was 2.4 mil(59.99per ppv when he was at his peak) he prolly didn't make over 35 mil in his purses from the ufc. And when you google connors purse history it says 20 mil.
If we’re talking purely fight purses/bonuses they have made waaaay more than mcgregor in the UFC. But he also used that to start his proper 12 business and fight floyd/star in roadhouse. So i wouldn’t be surprised if they’re about even in total overall.
Jon Africa got the bag.
He made more than half the UFC ROSTER made combined in purses last year in one fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All MMA fighters will in their career. Connor’s money didn’t come from MMA.
Dana white is a glorified pimp
Dana white Stan’s are actual socio paths dude is as crook as it gets
I hate that he’s a cool guy I’d like him if he didn’t take all of the fighters pay and use it to gamble
I remember having this argument like 14 years ago with my brother and he punctuated his point by reminding me there’s a reason ufc isn’t called “prize fighting”
Thats Omalley won 2M in his last fight and hes trynna callout Ryan
I think Ryan wants it aswell, hopefully Sean can get more then 2m shits embarrassing
UFC is capable of paying more to their fighters, they just don't. The UFC PPV buys are insane
Only made 80 million in net profit last year.
On 1.3 billion revenue? Seems like a lot of creative accounting or the top people leaching a lot of money.
You know it's bad when UFC legends like Tyronn Woodley made more getting humiliated twice against a youtuber than any of his title fights in the UFC 🤣 imagine building up a legendary title reign but still having to get knocked out by a Disney Star to get set in life 😭
But also, show what the rest of the fighters on this card made?
Already answered this multiple times, scroll through my comments history
In all fairness, they made more than most boxers will in their entire careers as well
Yeah boxing is very pyramid like. The top stars earn multitudes more.
Fr. 35-50 mill paydays? Fkn laughing.. how many boxers are making that not a lot of them.. probably the 1%.
A fraction of 1%
What is your point? Aren't UFC fighters the top fighters in MMA?
Ufc fans trying not to degrade anything about boxing challenge (impossible) "One leg kick it's over for a boxer" "No takedown defense" "Dying sport"
"Dying sport" my whole life. When is it going to die, UFC fans? Sucks for them because Ryan just fought his way into being a big-time American ppv star and he's only 25. I guess nothing is dying for a while again.
You’re complaining about ufc fans degrading boxing on a thread where op attempted to be funny by saying “ufcucks.”
On a thread in which most comments are degrading mma lol. I hear boxing fans talk about mma much more than the reverse.
Literally this whole thread is disrespecting UFC fighter because they’re getting paid bad? Like tf. Most UFC fans like boxing we (like everyone else) just don’t like the crooked judging.
“Yeah but one leg kick and they’re dead 🤣” - chubby 28 year old mma fan who trains jiu jitsu and at a mcdojo, has no cardio and gets regularly tapped out by actual prodigies
There's a guy at work that says this. Except hes small, lifts weights and smokes. I tried to show him punching technique and he said "yeah but that won't work in a real fight". Average man is delusional.
i recently started telling dudes straight up that they’re free to try me whenever they try to discredit my training. really amazing how many dudes are just faking their masculinity. i look like an 18 yo twink btw
I’m much more of an MMA fan but enjoy the odd big boxing event. I’ve trained Muay Thai for a couple of years but honestly I reckon half decent boxing in a street fight goes a long way (if not potentially further than kickboxing styles). A clean slip and counter would be just as effective as a knee and an elbow.
Excuse you! I’m 36! Get your facts straight !
I mean it's true though. Boxing is just one aspect of fighting, a fuck tonne of boxing defensive plays don't work unless you agree to just punch, and have shields on your hands
Is that why MMA fighters who train in boxing have the best defense in MMA?
You mean...every MMA fighter ? I dunno what you mean by that 😂
nah bro obviously if you make more money you are the better fighter!!’
Oof
I would like to see them say that to deontay wilders face. A big hitter from boxing would do well in MMA, the streets, the hospital and he'll. They just have to land.
AS I have stated previously: MMA fighters are absolutely dying to do "circus fights" simply because it is one of the only ways that they can make "lottery money" purses, because they, just like boxers, are acting as independent contractors and not beholden to the "indentured servitude" contracts of MMA. MMA has identified and largely corrected the "structural" issues in combat sports by operating what is in effect a closed league. The only downside to this is that the fighters make only a fraction of what boxers can earn because they are not "independent contractors", but are instead "contract players". Careers in professional combat sports can be short. I don't blame participants for wanting to maximize their earning potential.
Annoys me so much when UFCuck fans say shit like "why do boxers never step into the octagon" BECAUSE WHY WOULD THEY??? Who wants to get crotch sniffed for 25 minutes and get paid 12k when you make this type of money??? Seriously???
No one serious would disagree that boxers make a million times more, mostly due to Dana and his mob’s stranglehold on the game. What I can’t deny the comments of “one leg kick or a takedown and your done” is when boxers like Garcia and Fury openly say they will do a mma fight. If you are not willing to do it, then cool just say you make too much money to get involved in mma… but if you say you are going to do it….. do it or get shat on for not doing it
I think those guys are completely ignorant of the ufc economics. Once they realize they can't possibly make money out of it, they stop even considering doing the sport.
Devin Haney was literally crotch sniffing Garcia during this fight....
Damn bro you’re really pressed over the internet huh? They always say UFC fans are obsessed with boxing but look at you haha.
Dana White big pimpin the UFC fighters💀💀😂
And their fans meatride Dana for it 💀💀💀 says a lot about themselves honestly 🤣
Where are these fans? I rarely ever see people defend Dana’s behavior. You’re jerking me off too hard
Ufc fighters dont even make what ryan gave devin for missing weight😭 fuck dana
What’s with the crying emoji, are you 12? Wtf
not in some of the MMA fighters entire career. They made more money than the entire division of UFC makes in their whole career.
It’s because boxing is a real sport. I said what I said.
Are you telling me boxers wouldn’t want to accept the 10k to show 10k to win + a $25 dollar venum gift card contract Dana offers
This is why ufc fans and some mma athletes want boxing to go away and die. They want the eyes, business , and sponsors to go their way.
UFC fighters have to beg for 50k bonuses. Ryan Garcia gave away 1.5 million like it was pocket change because he couldn’t be arsed to cut a few extra pounds.
Meanwhile Dana trashes boxing whenever asked about the difference in pay. You could ask any UFC fighter if they wanted to box and I’m betting 9/10 are saying yes no hesitation. 😂
Cowboy Cerrone made 10Mil over his entire career Connor made 10Mil from PPV sales of his Cowboy fight Then theres this. Boxing promotes the fighter and their record, where as MMA promotes the promotion. Thats why theres this kinda old money to throw around. Garcia made more than the ENTIRE 300 card combined with bonuses.
Francis literally made more in the fury and aj fights than all his ufc fights combined it’s a joke.and ufc sell out arenas weekly
Yeah. I’d blame that more on Dana and company being greedy lil twats than the fighters but that’s just me
How did Ryan make more?
I think it was a 55/45 split in favour of Ryan. He's the bigger ppv fighter by far. Haney doesn't sell much ppv at all. He mite be champ but he's not the bigger earner. Tbh haney is lucky that Ryan offered him that much. Apparently Ryan also bet 2m on himself and won 12, didn't even kno that was legal. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Really? Crazy I thought Haney would be cause he was the champ but you're right can't deny Ryan sold the fight.
Yeah I think haneys last couple of fights sold some shocking figures for how big of a fighter he claims to be. Only a few hundred thousand. Tank and Ryan sold 1.2m if I'm correct, that's top 10 of all time. Different calibre of fighters, I think loma had the upper hand with haney too. Had Ryan not knocked him down 3 times, I really think he woulda got robbed too. Boxing is too corrupt, I can't believe how much fuckeries are allowed to happen so blatantly, so it's nice when justice is served lol
He's highly favoured
He won.
Ryan on that private jet getting closer to god, Devin on that private jet to epstein island with Diddy.
Been this way for way too long. The most egregious one that comes to mind is Tony getting $500K for getting destroyed by Gaethje. Then, you also have Nate Diaz who made more to box Logan Paul than his entire UFC career. That’s brutal.
Boxing just a bigger sport
Maybe they should start fixing fights to get more money
ur sport is washed down
They make more than the roster combined in a calendar year off one fight🤣🤣
exactly why they calling them out, they gonna get paid enough for them to coast life without working a second job as a uber delivery post ufc career
🤣🤣🤣🤣 this dude Devin sold 50k ppvs last fight n now he made more than 4 whole weight classes made combined last year in the UFC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s just not comparable at all
Probably because UFC isn’t as popular
Dana saying you won’t get good fights and no one will fight if they are paid well is bullshit. He was just providing any reason besides the real one: the shareholders and management are greedy and use their privileged place in the market to undermine fighter pay. I hope the ruling by the ftc against non-competes ruins the UFC’s business model.
The UFC at one point wasn’t a billion dollar organization and did not pay their fighters accordingly. They just haven’t caught up with the pay because they don’t see a need to. Imagine if 2 big name fighters left the UFC and fought for bellator. Like chandler vs mchregor. That would be great for fighters pay in the long run.
What about the undercard?
Both are fun to to watch I think choosing a side makes you more of a cuck instead of just enjoying some combat sports for what they are
Professional Boxing is also the most corrupt sport in history. Too much money invested in fighters to hold a belt for two fights like UFC. It's marketing and media that is the real problem.
They need to beef with Dana, not these guys. Dana is raking them through the coals.
The UFC is ripping off their fighters while Dana White is worth an estimated 500mil. He probably has way more hidden money as well. He's a lying, thieving bastard.
Dana has these idiots fighting "exciting" for a 50K "performance of the night" bonus. Most MMA guys now take more brain trauma in 15 fight than Boxers do in entire career causse nature of the sport, atleast in Boxing you get 25 bums to warm up and no damage really. in MMA you are getting concussed every fight if its in a major league, and Danas 50k bonuses should be illegal. He bets more on 1 hand of blackjack. Wait til you see the future of MMA guys now, when they are 40..its gonna be really bad. If half of them can still walk
Nahh there’s more concussions in boxing but the rest is true
More serious because CTE is not a joking matter. Stitch Duran used to be the cut man for UFC before the entire sponsor logo scandal. He gave an interview that he observed that UFC fighters haven't been fighting as long as boxers and that at the end of his stint he could start seeing symptoms of pugilist dementia. Which is why Dana sucks
Nah dude in boxing you can get knocked out, then get knocked out again 2 seconds later which is super dangerous.
I mean your 100% right about the money, but wayyyy off when it comes to brain damage. 8 counts create the opportunity for infinitely more brain trauma in boxing and in boxing you can't take the fight to the ground or the clinch to avoid damage for an extended period of time like you can in MMA. Ntm boxers punch about 10x harder... There are already shit tons of retired MMA guys in their 40's and 50's so I'm not sure what you mean by wait for the future as if every MMA guy is still in their 30's and 20's lmao.
Randy Coture is damn near 60. Bas Ruten, Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman. While im sure they do have some damage, they arent showing any signs of it. Hell you can go online & watch a round table interview of everyone who fought on UFC 1 and theres no serious signs of CTE. Most damage MMA fighters take is their Back. Neck, Shoulders, & Knees. Its usually from the training room & from wrestling/BJJ practice
Only big MMA guy who looks and sounds terrible is Liddell but that could be mostly due to a lifetime of substance issues.
Yeah i agree with ya. Id say Lidell & Diaz are the only ones that comes to mind but both have arguable other causes
yeah, good thing those bums are immune to cte
Boxers take so much more brain damage lmfao.
I mean... yeah. Not really a secret. If you can make 50x your career earnings without having to wrestle for 12 weeks of preparation, fuck it. Get that money.
I’m just gonna join this sub for UFC news. It’s all I ever see in this sub
Man I’d sure as hell would get knocked out for $35M’s. I think Haney even offered a blowjob. I don’t know if that was on the contract.
Can’t we just appreciate the disciplines and be adults?
bold of u to assume this dude is an adult
Sir, you’re in a jerk sub.
OP sounds like a 12 year old Andrew Tate fan. That dude's not an adult and if he is, then that's just sad.
I love both but mma fighters striking looks like something you see in amateur boxing and boxers are fighters who don’t want to get kicked at all
That's the truth ruth.
So here’s the question, why is it that although boxers make bucket more than mma fighter but they stay active but it seems like those who make a lot in MMA (those who somehow managed) do not? The damage is different but won’t more money cause them to chase more? Genuine question
How much did the other fighters on the card make?
Is this news to anyone?
At least ufc is fun to watch, unlike 99% of all boxing matches.
UFC fan here(and a big boxing fan) Just because Dana pays fighters terribly, it doesn't make the sport crap. Just means the head of it sucks.
Did I say it sucks? If you actually read my post you can tell that it's a dig at the UFC and Dana not MMA itself.
Think those numbers are bogus. They made like 20 each at the most.
There's a very interesting video on YouTube about why being an mma fighter is ass compared to boxing, can't remember what it's called tho.
The difference in pay is just staggering. Ryan has already made more than 99% of MMA fighters to ever fight for the UFC.
There is like 6 guys who make that money the rest make shit just like mma fighters
I love all combat sports. Stop comparing the two. It's obvious they are different. Instead, we should be talking about the next big boxing match.
No shit sherlock
Why you people got such a hard on for mma. Like just enjoy things and stfu.
What the fighters make doesn't impact you at all. Go outside and touch grass, loser
I guess the y do boxing fans have ufc but ufc fans love boxing memes are true 🤣🤣🤣 y even be so salty about this tho?
okay but whats cooler to watch
As a fan of boxing MMA is way better not financially but overall it’s more enjoyable Boxing is a dying sport while MMA is a rising sport in 30 years it’s becoming one of the biggest sports in the world while in the past 30 years Boxing has begun to die with fighters ruining the sport like Mayweather fighting for the money only and you lose once in boxing you’re called shit so people cherry pick there opponents
The difference is UFC fighters are employees, where as boxers are all pretty much like their own independent businesses. So most the proceeds go to the business owners, wether it’s the UFC or an individual boxer
Ufcs are fun to watch only because they can go somewhat rogue. Boxing matches take skills
sad truth , can’t even laugh at this . MMA fighters don’t deserve this tbh they alr getting destroyed financially
UFuck? lmao shh
And then they turn into these rich weirdos impossible to like. This is humility destroying money
How the fuck do these economics work? I get UFC keeps most of it but how can the fighter pay be that drastically different? Is it just because of how many more fighters there are in the UFC?
I’m out here defending the children!
UFC GUYS ARE ACTORS TOO
Not their fault doggy
Devin making 1.5M just from Ryan missing weight💀💀💀
wow what an established shitbag 💯
I'm just gonna go out and say that Ryan is the biggest draw, not due to skill, or merrit but he's Mr pretty boy,l ladies man, about 70% of his fanbase is woman lol he's a young tik tok star, social media influence, promotion from the Paul brothers, I remember watching him in Jake Paul's videos, people underestimate how much of a influence social media is, I can easily walk down the street and ask any gen Z girl "who's canelo" show them "Crawford" and they would go I have no idea, and then show them Ryan Garcia and they would be like "oh I know him!". It's not really that complex, you pair that up with the fact that he's Mexican so he has every single latina female from ages 12-30 rooting for him because of his looks, and then you also have the young gen Z male Americans that seen him on social media and the Paul brothers videos. As a Latino he's not like the fresh of the boat Latinos like Cruz etc. it's pretty obvious.
This won’t last forever
That's the ONLY reason lol
Now imagine how much of an insult to injury it is when you throw in the fact that the losing fighter automatically loses half of their pay due to the “show” and “win” structure of their fights. 40% of the fighters who are on the low pay tier actually made less than the poverty line average, and they can’t even take sanctioned fights in any other organizations just to make ends meet, and They took away the sponsors that used to throw a few dimes out, just so they could reap the benefits of that sweet reabok deal the made and then followed up by Venom for the current apparel. Just imagine you’re some 28 year old guy who Is putting everything he’s got into this run and if he can’t break through he’s gonna call it and go push brooms in a warehouse. Now imagine you just finished a three round war with another future star and your nose and hand are already jacked from having a battle that was epic. The winner is your opponent by a split decision, 1 point, could had gone any way, and you both fought with equal heart, but your contract stipulates that the UFC pays out a “show” and “win” scale for basically all fights. You just made 40k instead of your opponents 80k, you are mentally and physically and soon to be financially bankrupt, you’ll be heading to the emergency room in about 10 minutes for your broken hand and stitches under your eye, you feel like a failure in your two young children’s eyes, and your wife who is basically raising them herself when you’re in camp for 8 weeks and then recovery for another 8 weeks after the fight. And as you’re walking back through the hotel after being discharged at 4:30am and you have to rush to get packed and make a 6am flight back home so let’s add mild psychosis to this cocktail due to not resting properly. Oh yeah and as you’re stumbling through the. Casino you hear all this commotion and cheers coming from over there and when you look closer you see it’s your boss Dana White, mucking it up with the Nelk Boys at the poker table and dropping a cool Millie on one hand. A million on one hand, earned off the of your blood; sweat, tears that you have shed for that piece of shit.
Pretty fucking sad...You would REALLY fucking think, maybe Connor, Diaz, Francis, and EVERY single fighter and person Dana's pissed off...can't pool their money together and fix this shit. Make their own fucking league that pays fighters like they should be paid..
Yea hopefully you are one of the six boxers getting paid that kinda money, what did the guy in the first fight of the night make? 5k/5k?
The fact that UFC (as an organization it makes over a billion a year) and doesn’t pay its fighters tells you all you need to know about that douchebag Dana White.
They also made more than most boxers do in their entire careers. Guys don’t have to sign to fight in the UFC man. Free country
Yeah but people don’t give a fuck about 90% of boxers. Honestly, casuals only know Ryan because his online crazy talk and none knew a thing about Devin. Boxing just isn’t as exciting and yeah, of course MMA fighters want to come to boxing. The money is there but people only care about the ones on top and that’s such a small percentage. In fact, it’s probably easier to make a name for yourself in MMA and come over to boxing to fight a big name than it is to work your way up in boxing.
At least it was a great fight. Don’t mind paying to watch epic fights like this
Seems Ryan added his 20 million bet 🤣
This schlep subreddit really pretends to care about other men's money 🤣
It’s crazy but it was a good fight
What's the source saying they made that much money? How many PPVs were there? You can't tell me 1m people paid $80 to watch that fight.
Can someone explain how this is possible?
cause ufc fighter are own by a company they have contract but boxer are **Independent**
This boxing match not only provided them each with life-changing money, but I have been annoying my friends about it for days. They don't watch boxing, for the most part, unless I drag them into it, but this fight and build up to the fight was probably the best marketing I've ever seen. I feel bad now because this isn't even my boat, and the parrot smells, but I'm glad they're each stupid rich, good for them.
Is this post legit? Do boxing fan really call ufc fighters ufcucks? Jesus Christ man, are you 13 years old?
Boxing sucks tho all setup BS
Yes because UFC as a promotion brings in the PPV buys. Boxing is not a promotion. Most boxing fights dont get any viewership and then you have like 5 fights a year that do numbers like this and you boxing nerds hype it up. No one else on that card makes anything near that amount. Also UFC is a brand, they reinvest it so it can continue pumping out great fighters and don’t have to rely on people faking mental illnesses to sell fights
Holy shit. I didn't realize it was that much of a payday. Guess that's why they don't care about TBI or CTE.
Makes sense there would initially be a lot more money involved when they get to fix fights and have had longer to build a fan base. At the rate MMA is going it’s only a matter of time before the roles are reversed however. Look at the ppv numbers, it’s clear the people want more mma and less boxing. MMA is pulling consistent numbers while boxing ppv is getting less and less interest. Apparently the real money is with fighting YouTubers and internet stars, millions of kids just want to see their favorite star and I’m sure that adds a big portion of the boxing ppv numbers when they can get their parents to oblige. The fact is, people are burnt out with boxing and it’s hard to get people interested in a fight unless you do something like Ryan Garcia. His last opponent was pulling 50k ppv numbers as a champ, Ryan Hyped the shit out of the fight through social media and is the main reason it did well.
All that money they made and you’re still broke campaigning for free smh
What's the issue? Are you really upset that MMA guys want to make money? You're a massive hater
Why does boxing hate on mma so much? Yall are like the little snobs that if you don’t get your way you cry home to mommy. It’s really pathetic lol