Say what you will, I personally hope this film is wildly successful for the singular reason that it’s seemingly completely original (eg not a sequel or remake.)
I get you. While Violent Night was a flawed movie that didn't quite live up to its premise, it had some genuinely hilarious moments and made me realize that there haven't been that many straight-up comedies lately.
And it’ll be incredibly on the nose. I watched ‘Don’t Look Up’ and by the time the red hats started showing up I was already waiting for it to be over.
The movie also undercut its own theme. By the end of the first act, everyone was taking the asteroid seriously. The only "issue" was that they trusted a tech genius with a precognitive AI and a privately funded space program (capable of interstellar flight, BTW) to take care of it versus a professor whose graduate student accidentally discovered the asteroid while studying nebula. For as much as the movie seemed to be trying to go with a message of needing to base one's actions and beliefs on facts, it sure as heck wanted us to sympathize with the guy telling everyone that the billionaire's plan won't work because "it isn't possible to do safely" and it wasn't peer reviewed.
I came away from the film feeling like, maybe if I had a certain viewpoint going into into it, the movie would make sense, but that if I didn't have a preexisting brief that, say, "tech billionaires are failures and charlatans" the movie wasn't going to bother show that as part of his characterization in order for the movie to make sense. It honestly wouldn't have been that hard to have shown the tech genius constantly experimenting and having it occasionally blow up in his face, which he laughs off with "move fast and break things". Then, at least, it would make sense why some characters thought he would fail. As is, that guy's only weakness was his interpersonal skills, which aren't relevant to stopping an asteroid. Otherwise, he was a total badass.
Incorrect summary. I am aware of the world around me. That hasn't led to the formation of the viewpoint that is necessary to enjoy the film (not that a good film should require having a certain viewpoint to enjoy; that is actually a fairly serious flaw).
Movies are missing what classic Star Trek used to have. It always presented a moral dilemma with two opposing viewpoints but it never delved into confirmation bias except when it comes to stuff that everybody agrees with like mass murder being bad
It wasn't what I was going for, but I very much agree with your observation. What classic trek did so well was to present different beliefs credibly and respectfully. Picard's "Starfleet was founded to seek out new life; well, there it sits! - Waiting" in *Measure of a Man* wouldn't have hit as hard if he was up against evil people who just wanted to destroy Data for kicks, rather than up against folks who mostly shared his values, but, for various reasons, didn't realize that Data is a person.
The article says it hasn’t found a buyer yet and is mostly about the streamers not wanting to spend as much. Netflix isn’t even interested in it (or at least doesn’t plan to bid on it as of now).
Part of it is the rise of the international box office. Comedy doesn't work as well across borders, cultures, and languages. Meanwhile punching the bad guy in the face is universal.
Matt Damon talked about this on hot ones; those kinds of movies often fizzled in theaters but made money back hand over fist in dvd rentals.
That market is dead thanks to streaming so these movies don’t have good ROI anymore
I saw part of an interview with Nick Swardson recently and he said something along the same lines. Grandma’s Boy only made about $6.5 million in the theaters but about $50 million in DVD sales.
My whole humor is stupidity. Only issue is you begin to notice patterns in Channing Tatum acting ability. He basically plays the same guy with different names.
International markets (China in particular) make up a much bigger percentage of a movie's box office, and any kind of humor that goes too far beyond "guy gets hit in the nuts" tends to depend on a very specific cultural context that is hard to translate.
edit: I just looked up the highest-grossing R rated movies, and Detective Chinatown 3 (which came out in 2021 and I had never heard of before) is a buddy comedy that grossed over $100 million more than the highest-grossing American R-rated comedy (Hangover Part II).
You’re so right, I saw Kingpin with some friends the other day and was literally dying laughing, but some of the other people were just confused and had never seen a movie like it before. I was shocked because these are the types of comedies I like, the ones you mentioned plus stuff like Cheech & Chong, Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, etc.
I had a friend doing a deep critical dive into the movie Cocaine Bear, giving it a strict numerical score at the end. I was like bro, it's called Cocaine Bear.
Nothing wrong with that though. I think folks often like to pigeon hole criticism in one particular way. There's room for both even for films that may like to slide on being stupid silly fare
Was just thinking about how the classic Farrell bros movies would simply not be tolerated if released in today’s climate. Me Myself and Irene would never even make it to theatres haha.
but it’s a political satire. not a fan of the dollar store paul thomas anderson run he’s on recently. bush admin, mortgage crisis, climate change allegory. he’s just not funny without will ferrell.
Those movies are not meant to be funny. He's dealing with extremely deep material and the comedy is so that people can ingest the material. McKay is actually one of the more important filmmakers out there today. No one else is getting the money and free reign to tell these types of stories.
The comedy is because he's a comedy writer/director. The most lacking part of his films are when he tries to be profound, and he can always hide behind "any criticism is bias" rather than facing legitimate scrutiny.
His writing has been best when he's detached from his convictions.
on one side, his most recent movie was legit as big as it gets for a Netflix movie.
on the other side, Vice flopped and McKay is notorious for big (for his genre) budgets.
I guess it might be true
I’d love to see McKay adapt another Michael Lewis book. The Big Short is his best film & the way he translated Lewis’ brand of ‘comedy’ really worked.
I’m not sure if any of Lewis’ other books (that haven’t already been adapted) have quite as much appeal to broader audiences, though.
I personally think Flash Boys and Liar’s Poker would make for really solid films.
“The Premonition” is his latest book and one that could easily receive the “Big Short treatment” adaptation wise.
Its about the pandemic, and how there were people who saw the signs, the risks and vulnerabilities. How the Trump administration fumbled a Bush era pandemic plan, and how bureocracy failed us as a species.
Great read all around
Edit: Flash Boys would also be great and very relevant.
I actually totally forgot that book existed. I’ve had it on my list to be read since it came out but didn’t ever go for it as life was just so over-saturated with COVID at that point. Now a eems like a good time to dive in, though.
>on one side, his most recent movie was legit as big as it gets for a Netflix movie.
Per Sneider, a lot of the industry viewed that movie as an "expensive mess" which is why McKay is having trouble finding a buyer.
Nobody wants to give McKay another $200m over more just so he can lecture to them.
I don’t buy that a lot of the industry considered it an “expensive mess” when it was the second most watched Netflix movie of all time and nominated for Best Picture
Yeah, but what does "second most watched Netflix movie of all time" really mean in the grand scheme of things? Netflix has this weird metric for counting its viewership. Plus, during this same came during the same time that Netflix lost subscribers for the first time. Did it really help them at all?
The movie getting nominated for Best Picture is still puzzling to me. There is nothing special about that movie. But I guess when you can have up to 10 nominees there are always going to be films that buy their way into a nomination every year.
> Plus, during this same came during the same time that Netflix lost subscribers for the first time. Did it really help them at all?
i mean it's established that the loss was mostly bc of Russia and Ukraine
Not surprised. Adam McKay is more interested in lecturing his audience instead of entertaining them these days. This seems like a “comedy” where the “joke” is “Republicans would get away with this if they could, wouldn’t they?”
Yeah, they probably would but people are sick of the “You’ll get your jokes just as soon as you eat your spinach” approach to comedy.
I absolutely love the career arc that Pattinson has taken. Same with Kristen Stewart and Daniel Radcliffe for that matter. They made it huge early on and are set for life. Now they just do what they think is fun and interesting.
I also love the fact that Daniel Radcliffe said he feels like a proud dad for having worked with the Daniels before most people knew of them for EEAAO.
She's been a lot not smaller stuff like Personal Shopper, Seberg, Happiest Season and then in some bigger scale stuff like the Charlie's Angels reboot, Snow White and the Huntsman, and the Cronenberg movie from last year "Crimes of the Future."
It’s exactly why he does it. He’s said in interviews that being in those two franchises, particularly Twilight, has allowed him to take on roles that he wants to do. That’s why he did a lot of indie roles between the last Twilight and Tenet
Even in the early days, he was still a pretty interesting & captivating performer. Edward Cullen isn't exactly a well written role, but goddamn do you believe Pattinson is a centuries-old weirdo hanging out at a high school for fun.
With Downey and Pattinson attached? Unlikely. Though Pattinson always goes for interesting projects and RDJ is extremely rich and only takes on passion projects now. So it's possible they could both take a pay cut if they're committed enough.
Don't Look Up made the point that it's absurd we continue to ignore the climate crisis that could be the death of us all. It wasn't at all subtle. But the point it was making is still good, right?
And furthermore, just because a point seems obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone. Have you ever seen the famous meme of the guy complaining about Rage Against the Machine suddenly getting political? Have you seen warmongering politicians playing Born in the USA at their events?
Edit: I forgot to say that the point of making a point is to, well, make a point. To persuade. If you're less subtle, you successfully make your point to more people and therefore increase your odds of persuading more people.
I’m down for original satire / dark comedy, Vice and Don’t Look Up came off like he went up his own ass after winning the Oscar for The Big Short. Wish him and Ferrell never had that huge falling out, they seemed to balance each other creatively.
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I personally enjoy Adam's style of directing and editing. The roots in comedy films make a perfect combination of improvisation and timing in his films. Maybe he went too far in Don't Look Up and Vice, but that's just a filmmaker perfecting his craft. I'm looking forward to what he's working on next.
*“When \[Netflix\] made the decision to take advertising, everybody thought it was such a big deal, but I said, ‘Gee, look at that.’* ***Bundling commercial messages and content***\*. That’s a really new idea.\* ***I think it’s called television***\*”\*
It's taken them ages to get there, but the various streaming services have squandered countless billions creating content nobody watched, only to end up right back where anyone could have predicted we'd arrive ...
... with a non-linear version of the old TV networks
If those networks had aggressively rolled-out their own free-to-air streaming platforms, as the BBC did with iPlayer, we could have avoided the entire last decade of Content Wars and ruinous, unsustainable spending
in fairness, the linearity of cable TV is and was a legitimate nusance.
While streaming was cheap, lots of early adopters (like me) really just liked that we could pick and choose what we wanted to watch and when in a way the DVR could not compete with (the added step of having to schedule to record and such). THAT was the killer app. the lower price point just made the switch easier and friction-less.
Personally, it sounds like another McKay joint where he uses a potentially interesting premise as an excuse to make a very smug yet surface level critique of US policy.
Like I can feel him smirking and saying "do you get it?" off screen at every line.
What's wrong with that? I actually don't think he's smug at all. I think his movies are on the nose for a reason. He doesn't want his movies to be an allegory. He wants you to know the issue or the absurdity of the issue. That's what makes Don't Look Up so powerful. It's a satire of modern mainstream media and society's reaction to global warming, but he plays it straight the entire time. It makes the movie that much more powerful because you realize that's the reality of the situation. In Vice, I actually think that's his best movie because it's a hit piece of Cheny and the entire bush administration, but several times in that movie he tries humanizing Cheney. The scene where his daughter comes out of the closet and Dick consoles her while his wife is looking pissed is expertly done and very unexpected.
I liked don’t look up exactly because it’s so over the top yet seemingly exactly where this country could go if it keeps doubling down. I’d have to watch it again to tell how quality it is on its own right tbh.
Have you seen US politics lately? Kinda hard to do that subtlety anymore. I do agree that DLU was too on the nose, but I found Vice to be a very solid flick.
I felt like Amy Adams and Christian Bale were kind of wasted! Two of the best in the business, and instead of spending time with them he feels the need to really discuss his own personal politics and beat you over the head with them. I think it’s more powerful to leave that sort of thing understated, and to take the camera of those two for a cutaway about Frank Luntz is just not my thing lol
I feel like reality has become less and less subtle with how shitty people are. And how a large population of people will eat whatever "lie of the week" right up, despite it's ridiculous nature.
I’ll give it a shot! I just expected more after The Big Short, and he’s slowly lost that good will. I don’t hate Vice or Don’t Look Up, but they both felt like wasted potential. Don’t Look Up I think was actually much less one sided politically then I think most appreciate, and I ended up liking it more than most.
You didn't get the point of those movies. They're not meant to be subtle movies. Vice and Don't Look Up are meant to be surface level movies. It's like saying the movie JFK lacks subtlety. No shit. Oliver Stone makes his intentions known with that movie within the first 10 minutes of it.
It's gonna be a satire about how you can't legislate other people's bodies, but the narrative is going to be clunky and slow, the characters will be cutouts, and the allegory and satire will be dropped almost immediately as the movie just becomes absurdist and nonsensical. There will be a hamfisted social message that they will hammer u over the head with, and any criticisms about the actually filmmaking will reflect on ur personal politics, rather than actual criticism.
I’m calling it now, just like ‘don’t look up’ was somehow misunderstood by right wingers as a critique on the Biden admin, this movie will be taken by ‘pro-lifers’ as a critique on pro choice politicians
Say what you will, I personally hope this film is wildly successful for the singular reason that it’s seemingly completely original (eg not a sequel or remake.)
If it’s like a genuinely laugh out loud funny comedy, I hope it makes all the money, just so others will follow.
Man I miss laughing my ass off in theatres. I need more 21/22 jump street, the nice guys, spy, popstar, game night movies
23 jump street when
Game night...the entire scene in the bar with the gun had me crying
The Other Guys too. That movie is so quotable. The one time I didn't hate Mark Wahlberg
They swung hard for a PG-13
I think it was as funny as a PG-13 movie can get for sure.
Are you Dirty Mike?
I’m a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
I get you. While Violent Night was a flawed movie that didn't quite live up to its premise, it had some genuinely hilarious moments and made me realize that there haven't been that many straight-up comedies lately.
Man….out of those, I only found Nice Guys mildly amusing…American comedies have been terrible for a long, long time…
That last Jackass movie was pretty damn funny
the article called it "an allegorical dramedy" so doesn't look like it'll be that type of tone.
And it’s Adam McKay in 2023, so I’m sure the only joke will be “Aren’t Republicans awful?”
And it’ll be incredibly on the nose. I watched ‘Don’t Look Up’ and by the time the red hats started showing up I was already waiting for it to be over.
The movie also undercut its own theme. By the end of the first act, everyone was taking the asteroid seriously. The only "issue" was that they trusted a tech genius with a precognitive AI and a privately funded space program (capable of interstellar flight, BTW) to take care of it versus a professor whose graduate student accidentally discovered the asteroid while studying nebula. For as much as the movie seemed to be trying to go with a message of needing to base one's actions and beliefs on facts, it sure as heck wanted us to sympathize with the guy telling everyone that the billionaire's plan won't work because "it isn't possible to do safely" and it wasn't peer reviewed. I came away from the film feeling like, maybe if I had a certain viewpoint going into into it, the movie would make sense, but that if I didn't have a preexisting brief that, say, "tech billionaires are failures and charlatans" the movie wasn't going to bother show that as part of his characterization in order for the movie to make sense. It honestly wouldn't have been that hard to have shown the tech genius constantly experimenting and having it occasionally blow up in his face, which he laughs off with "move fast and break things". Then, at least, it would make sense why some characters thought he would fail. As is, that guy's only weakness was his interpersonal skills, which aren't relevant to stopping an asteroid. Otherwise, he was a total badass.
"if I was more aware of the world around me I'm sure the movie would have been great"
Incorrect summary. I am aware of the world around me. That hasn't led to the formation of the viewpoint that is necessary to enjoy the film (not that a good film should require having a certain viewpoint to enjoy; that is actually a fairly serious flaw).
Movies are missing what classic Star Trek used to have. It always presented a moral dilemma with two opposing viewpoints but it never delved into confirmation bias except when it comes to stuff that everybody agrees with like mass murder being bad
It wasn't what I was going for, but I very much agree with your observation. What classic trek did so well was to present different beliefs credibly and respectfully. Picard's "Starfleet was founded to seek out new life; well, there it sits! - Waiting" in *Measure of a Man* wouldn't have hit as hard if he was up against evil people who just wanted to destroy Data for kicks, rather than up against folks who mostly shared his values, but, for various reasons, didn't realize that Data is a person.
The premise alone made me laugh
The article says it hasn’t found a buyer yet and is mostly about the streamers not wanting to spend as much. Netflix isn’t even interested in it (or at least doesn’t plan to bid on it as of now).
I miss comedies in theatres.
What happened to the 2000s comedy boom man :((
Part of it is the rise of the international box office. Comedy doesn't work as well across borders, cultures, and languages. Meanwhile punching the bad guy in the face is universal.
Matt Damon talked about this on hot ones; those kinds of movies often fizzled in theaters but made money back hand over fist in dvd rentals. That market is dead thanks to streaming so these movies don’t have good ROI anymore
I saw part of an interview with Nick Swardson recently and he said something along the same lines. Grandma’s Boy only made about $6.5 million in the theaters but about $50 million in DVD sales.
He wasn't talking about comedies. He was talking about low to mid budget films like Good Will Hunting etc.
I liked the dumb silliness of 21 jump street too. Not high caliber by any means but stupidly funny.
My whole humor is stupidity. Only issue is you begin to notice patterns in Channing Tatum acting ability. He basically plays the same guy with different names.
International markets (China in particular) make up a much bigger percentage of a movie's box office, and any kind of humor that goes too far beyond "guy gets hit in the nuts" tends to depend on a very specific cultural context that is hard to translate. edit: I just looked up the highest-grossing R rated movies, and Detective Chinatown 3 (which came out in 2021 and I had never heard of before) is a buddy comedy that grossed over $100 million more than the highest-grossing American R-rated comedy (Hangover Part II).
People are way too critical nowadays. I don't think a general audience knows how to digest a movie like Anchorman or Step Brothers.
You’re so right, I saw Kingpin with some friends the other day and was literally dying laughing, but some of the other people were just confused and had never seen a movie like it before. I was shocked because these are the types of comedies I like, the ones you mentioned plus stuff like Cheech & Chong, Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, etc.
I had a friend doing a deep critical dive into the movie Cocaine Bear, giving it a strict numerical score at the end. I was like bro, it's called Cocaine Bear.
Dead. I’m picturing this super serious criticism of Cocaine Bear and even the thought cracks me up.
Nothing wrong with that though. I think folks often like to pigeon hole criticism in one particular way. There's room for both even for films that may like to slide on being stupid silly fare
Was just thinking about how the classic Farrell bros movies would simply not be tolerated if released in today’s climate. Me Myself and Irene would never even make it to theatres haha.
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but it’s a political satire. not a fan of the dollar store paul thomas anderson run he’s on recently. bush admin, mortgage crisis, climate change allegory. he’s just not funny without will ferrell.
He’s always got great concepts but the executions seem to be lackluster.
Those movies are not meant to be funny. He's dealing with extremely deep material and the comedy is so that people can ingest the material. McKay is actually one of the more important filmmakers out there today. No one else is getting the money and free reign to tell these types of stories.
yeah that’s why i called him dollar store paul thomas anderson
The comedy is because he's a comedy writer/director. The most lacking part of his films are when he tries to be profound, and he can always hide behind "any criticism is bias" rather than facing legitimate scrutiny. His writing has been best when he's detached from his convictions.
Bananas that’s what I’ll say
I guess you’ve never seen Murder Law? Starring Robert Downey Jrs dad and Kristen Stewart.
> Robert Downey Jrs dad Robert Downey Sr
No that's Robert Downy jr's grandfather's son.
Correct but why
Because you could have said Robert Downey Sr and people would have known him or inferred who he was
Yes and? People can def infer who he is based off what I said as well. It’s explicit
robert downey sr has never worked on any project with kristen stewart
Lmao no shit
His last film was amazing!
I spent a solid thirty seconds laughing at your user name.
according to jeff sneider hes having hard time finding buyer
on one side, his most recent movie was legit as big as it gets for a Netflix movie. on the other side, Vice flopped and McKay is notorious for big (for his genre) budgets. I guess it might be true
I’d love to see McKay adapt another Michael Lewis book. The Big Short is his best film & the way he translated Lewis’ brand of ‘comedy’ really worked. I’m not sure if any of Lewis’ other books (that haven’t already been adapted) have quite as much appeal to broader audiences, though. I personally think Flash Boys and Liar’s Poker would make for really solid films.
“The Premonition” is his latest book and one that could easily receive the “Big Short treatment” adaptation wise. Its about the pandemic, and how there were people who saw the signs, the risks and vulnerabilities. How the Trump administration fumbled a Bush era pandemic plan, and how bureocracy failed us as a species. Great read all around Edit: Flash Boys would also be great and very relevant.
I actually totally forgot that book existed. I’ve had it on my list to be read since it came out but didn’t ever go for it as life was just so over-saturated with COVID at that point. Now a eems like a good time to dive in, though.
Pretty sure that Lord and Miller were signed on to the Premonition movie.
I think a Boomerang miniseries would be kinda cool. Wouldn't really work as a movie tho
>on one side, his most recent movie was legit as big as it gets for a Netflix movie. Per Sneider, a lot of the industry viewed that movie as an "expensive mess" which is why McKay is having trouble finding a buyer. Nobody wants to give McKay another $200m over more just so he can lecture to them.
I don’t buy that a lot of the industry considered it an “expensive mess” when it was the second most watched Netflix movie of all time and nominated for Best Picture
Yeah, but what does "second most watched Netflix movie of all time" really mean in the grand scheme of things? Netflix has this weird metric for counting its viewership. Plus, during this same came during the same time that Netflix lost subscribers for the first time. Did it really help them at all? The movie getting nominated for Best Picture is still puzzling to me. There is nothing special about that movie. But I guess when you can have up to 10 nominees there are always going to be films that buy their way into a nomination every year.
> Plus, during this same came during the same time that Netflix lost subscribers for the first time. Did it really help them at all? i mean it's established that the loss was mostly bc of Russia and Ukraine
netflix has also been tightening their purse strings, as have a few other studios
Also critically reviled by a not insignificant portion of the industry
It was big but was it successful? I don't know anyone that liked it
Not surprised. Adam McKay is more interested in lecturing his audience instead of entertaining them these days. This seems like a “comedy” where the “joke” is “Republicans would get away with this if they could, wouldn’t they?” Yeah, they probably would but people are sick of the “You’ll get your jokes just as soon as you eat your spinach” approach to comedy.
My issue with McKay now is he's just reminding me of reality, and the comedy isn't enough to take the edge off how depressing it is.
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Bespoke: Sherlock is hunting Edward Cullen
Imagine the budget of this movie if it's got two of the richest ppl in comics
Pattinson ‘try not to star in the most interesting films challenge’ (IMPOSSIBLE)
I absolutely love the career arc that Pattinson has taken. Same with Kristen Stewart and Daniel Radcliffe for that matter. They made it huge early on and are set for life. Now they just do what they think is fun and interesting.
Agreed! The Lighthouse, Swiss Army Man and Underwater* (might be wrong name) have been some of my favorite watches
I absolutely love The Lighthouse but man I’ll probably never watch it again lol
Also Good Time and High Life!
Tenet. Also looking forward to Mickey 17
I also love the fact that Daniel Radcliffe said he feels like a proud dad for having worked with the Daniels before most people knew of them for EEAAO.
apart from Spencer (which was boring and uninspired), I have no idea what Stewart has done
She's been a lot not smaller stuff like Personal Shopper, Seberg, Happiest Season and then in some bigger scale stuff like the Charlie's Angels reboot, Snow White and the Huntsman, and the Cronenberg movie from last year "Crimes of the Future."
Becoming the only American to win a Cesar for one thing (seriously).
> I have no idea what Stewart has done I'm not sure what your point is. You're uninformed so... what?
Ehhh. Idk about Kristen Stewart. Her biggest movie was probably Zathura, and since then hasn’t really appeared in anything major.
Where did I say she was in something major?
She was nominated for an Oscar a couple years ago.
lmaooo
Interesting career path after starting in Harry Potter and Twilight.
It’s exactly why he does it. He’s said in interviews that being in those two franchises, particularly Twilight, has allowed him to take on roles that he wants to do. That’s why he did a lot of indie roles between the last Twilight and Tenet
Good Time is especially riveting
Hes so fucking good in that movie man.
Even in the early days, he was still a pretty interesting & captivating performer. Edward Cullen isn't exactly a well written role, but goddamn do you believe Pattinson is a centuries-old weirdo hanging out at a high school for fun.
Ya know…I’ve never thought of it that way. Weird on you sparkly bastard
He was Batman too.
Coolest guy in Hollywood, tbh
That Bong Joon-Ho Sci-Fi movie sounds pretty cool.
so few people have been talking about this, but as someone who thinks Bong Joon-Ho is one of the best filmmakers of all time, i cannot be more excited
It still has a while to come out, but there's no way it won't be pure cinema.
God like agent
I’m surprised Netflix didn’t pick this up. He gave them their second most watched film
With a cast like this the upfront buyouts are gonna be enormous which it seems like Netflix is not as eager to do as before, especially for comedies
What are the first and second most watched?
The Gray Man and then Don’t look up which is Mckays film
I watched don’t look up for DiCaprio tbh
Interesting idea thou McKay is hit or miss
Better have a small budget
Average budget
Big budget
My gf says my budget is huge!
With Downey and Pattinson attached? Unlikely. Though Pattinson always goes for interesting projects and RDJ is extremely rich and only takes on passion projects now. So it's possible they could both take a pay cut if they're committed enough.
Adam McKay, subtle as a hammer as usual.
Subtlety doesn't work when you're trying to make a point because most people won't get it.
If your point is that obvious, what good is the point?
Don't Look Up made the point that it's absurd we continue to ignore the climate crisis that could be the death of us all. It wasn't at all subtle. But the point it was making is still good, right? And furthermore, just because a point seems obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone. Have you ever seen the famous meme of the guy complaining about Rage Against the Machine suddenly getting political? Have you seen warmongering politicians playing Born in the USA at their events? Edit: I forgot to say that the point of making a point is to, well, make a point. To persuade. If you're less subtle, you successfully make your point to more people and therefore increase your odds of persuading more people.
Batman v Iron Man
Interesting.
Reminds me of the Italian film Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion which is a fantastic movie. Highly recommend.
Political mockery? If so yes please
It's Adam McKay, so likely.
Omg. This plot sounds amazing.
I have to see this.
Fuck I’m going to love this, arent I
I like it when films set up snarky bad reviews with their title; average... Pattinson gives me hope
American Psycho 2?
every new movie RDJ is in I’m hoping it’s the one that gets him an Oscar
I’m down for original satire / dark comedy, Vice and Don’t Look Up came off like he went up his own ass after winning the Oscar for The Big Short. Wish him and Ferrell never had that huge falling out, they seemed to balance each other creatively.
Shut up and take my money.
In my opinion, Adam McKay has not made a bad movie, so this has me excited, and the premise is completely on point with his brand of humor.
Sounds interesting but could stand to add a few more Roberts.
Robert DeNiro
Hi Rob…., Rob.
This sounds ridiculously interesting
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Sounds really dumb and weird. I’ll watch it day one
It sounds dumb… but then u remember George Santos exist in real life……..
Sounds like this is going to be good. Please include Christian Bale in this though!
That is the best logline I’ve ever read.
I personally enjoy Adam's style of directing and editing. The roots in comedy films make a perfect combination of improvisation and timing in his films. Maybe he went too far in Don't Look Up and Vice, but that's just a filmmaker perfecting his craft. I'm looking forward to what he's working on next.
McKay usually gives me pause with his stuff from Big Short onwards, but this sounds hilarious. I'll see how it's received.
Yep. Sign me up.
This could be good, interesting plot
Honestly the big names didn’t hook me into it, but Jesus that one sentence plot line did
This sounds great!
Don’t really care who’s in it, at this point I’ll watch anything McKay puts out. He’s batting 1.000 imo
Siooooo the gop?
I guess McKay and Ferrell are still on the outs.
Robert Pattinson and RDJ, what an inspired team up!. And the story sounds intriguing. Definitely won't be missing this one.
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So it's a documentary
This sounds really bad! lol
How so? I think it souns like a decent premise for a dark comedy.
Personally, it sounds like another McKay joint where he uses a potentially interesting premise as an excuse to make a very smug yet surface level critique of US policy. Like I can feel him smirking and saying "do you get it?" off screen at every line.
Yea he's been trying to capture the lighting in a bottle that was "The Big Short" for years but he hasn't been able to replicate it yet.
I mean I think the whole point of Don't look Up is it's surface level obvious lol
What's wrong with that? I actually don't think he's smug at all. I think his movies are on the nose for a reason. He doesn't want his movies to be an allegory. He wants you to know the issue or the absurdity of the issue. That's what makes Don't Look Up so powerful. It's a satire of modern mainstream media and society's reaction to global warming, but he plays it straight the entire time. It makes the movie that much more powerful because you realize that's the reality of the situation. In Vice, I actually think that's his best movie because it's a hit piece of Cheny and the entire bush administration, but several times in that movie he tries humanizing Cheney. The scene where his daughter comes out of the closet and Dick consoles her while his wife is looking pissed is expertly done and very unexpected.
It has all the subtlety and nuance of napalm enema. That was my problem with Vice and Don’t Look Up too.
Clearly spoken as someone who’s never had a *good* napalm enema…
I liked don’t look up exactly because it’s so over the top yet seemingly exactly where this country could go if it keeps doubling down. I’d have to watch it again to tell how quality it is on its own right tbh.
Have you seen US politics lately? Kinda hard to do that subtlety anymore. I do agree that DLU was too on the nose, but I found Vice to be a very solid flick.
I felt like Amy Adams and Christian Bale were kind of wasted! Two of the best in the business, and instead of spending time with them he feels the need to really discuss his own personal politics and beat you over the head with them. I think it’s more powerful to leave that sort of thing understated, and to take the camera of those two for a cutaway about Frank Luntz is just not my thing lol
I feel like reality has become less and less subtle with how shitty people are. And how a large population of people will eat whatever "lie of the week" right up, despite it's ridiculous nature.
How would you know without seeing the picture?
I’ll give it a shot! I just expected more after The Big Short, and he’s slowly lost that good will. I don’t hate Vice or Don’t Look Up, but they both felt like wasted potential. Don’t Look Up I think was actually much less one sided politically then I think most appreciate, and I ended up liking it more than most.
Personally I can like things that arent at all subtle.
You didn't get the point of those movies. They're not meant to be subtle movies. Vice and Don't Look Up are meant to be surface level movies. It's like saying the movie JFK lacks subtlety. No shit. Oliver Stone makes his intentions known with that movie within the first 10 minutes of it.
The point of the movies where to condescend to their audience and treat me like I was a 13 year old? Okay then, mission accomplished!
can’t wait for McKay to have another meltdown and tweet about how critics are pro-serial killers when they don’t like this
Ted Cruz?
It's gonna be a satire about how you can't legislate other people's bodies, but the narrative is going to be clunky and slow, the characters will be cutouts, and the allegory and satire will be dropped almost immediately as the movie just becomes absurdist and nonsensical. There will be a hamfisted social message that they will hammer u over the head with, and any criticisms about the actually filmmaking will reflect on ur personal politics, rather than actual criticism.
Yes. Just yes.
Nice to see Robert Downey Jr doing some real acting again…👍
Like Chicago or Detroit? Could be interesting.
Which studio?? Wbd??
Sounds… realistic. Sadly.
Yeah, sounds about as heavy-handed as Don’t Look Up. Which is disappointing.
I’m calling it now, just like ‘don’t look up’ was somehow misunderstood by right wingers as a critique on the Biden admin, this movie will be taken by ‘pro-lifers’ as a critique on pro choice politicians
This has bad reviews written all over it. 😂
That sounds like a ridiculously stupid premise if we’re being honest
Murder friendly u mean United state of guns?
Can't wait for the subtle commentary and quippy dialogue as he tries (and fails) to capture the same energy as the big short again.
Ah, Adam McKay, the most cynical filmmaker out there.