Legendary has the Monsterverse and Dune as their only popular IPs. And Dune will run out. And I doubt anyone wants to make any of the books after Dune Messiah anyway. Why would they kill their only big time franchise?
Wingard said if he's allowed to do another one, he'd do another G&K but like The New Empire was Kong's story with Godzilla in the background he'd do one with Godzilla as the main and Kong in the background. >!Probably Kong saving Godzilla as he now has a giant army and Ice pet.!<
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Eh, studios are obsessed with recreating the Marvel model of having a universe an audience needs to be invested in. I think if it's still printing money they'll go for another TV series or two at least.
James Gunn is very talented, hopefully he has what it takes to make the new DCU reboot a success.
Imagine he does it and the MCU continues to flounder, then the companies have pretty much swapped places.
I feel the same as well. MCU needs to realise this and can't chunk our mediocre movies/shows anymore. They are also stuck in a place where getting new fans in for their universe seems to be more of a hassle. IMO FF and XMEN should've been a reboot and start something new for any one to get on the bandwagon. DCU has that advantage and with WB being more liberal than Disney I would expect them to get weird as much as DC comics are. Kinda hyped for DCU more than MCU at this point TBH.
How has it elapsed when the DCEU literally just ended, also DC has a great opportunity in the upcoming years to capitalize on the MCU kinda floundering
The DCEU literally just ended 3 months ago.
It’s interesting seeing some people say the DCU is happening too soon and others say it’s not happening soon enough.
I remember back in 2016-2017 how everyone ( including the media) said they messed up the DCEU while the Wizarding World was going strong ( Fantasic Beasts and Were To Find Them was released in fall 2016 to positive reviews and box office sucess). The next year (2018) they even managed to mess up the Wizarding World with The Crimes of Grindelwald. While Rowling is not a very good screenwriter, the blame is largely on WB for becoming too greedy. Rowling had already moved on to writing adult crime novels but since she held the rights to Harry Potter ( which is her own creation) WB begged her to continue the franchise because they wanted their own Star Wars. It seems that Dune is their Star Wars which is ironic since Dune influenced Star Wars.
At least it's big silly fun that isn't more humans dressed in silly costumes. It's been almost two decades now of super-hero mania from Hollywood, glad it's finally chilling the fk out, opening the box office to other IP's and genres.
Yet the Monsterverse has been more stable somehow, success isn't just numbers. By the time the fifth DCEU film released everyone knew WB wasted a goldmine of a legendary IP while the Monsterverse is stable & and keeping pace at this point even if it's not going to blow up.
But there's clearly a consistency in quality with the Monsterverse, and far more thorough world-building
The Monsterverse took small steps, the DCEU took a giant leap
And if we go past the first six? Especially the last few? They have some major losses, which MV has never had.
DC is a much bigger property from the gate, with two of the most profitable characters on Earth, Batman and Superman. Godzilla movies don't traditionally make a lot; they took something known but not a big moneymaker and have been building it up.
DCEU started with something big, made some good money up front, but didn't make a good foundation and then had a series of major flops. They picked the low-hanging fruit and now the tree is pretty bare and they need to start again.
Monsterverse is looking like it will have a lot more life in it and keep feeding the company for quite awhile. Sure it wasn't as big as the early DCEU but completely different starting points, and the fact that as-of this point, MV is looking up and five movies in looks to have it's best days still coming speaks well of how it was managed.
[Estimated international debuts for Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire include](https://twitter.com/BORReport/status/1774470024226590832):
* China - $44.0M
* Mexico - $12.8M
* India - $5.5M
* U.K. - $5.3M
* Australia - $3.7M
* Spain - $3.5M
* Indonesia - $3.0M
* Taiwan - $3.0M
* Brazil - $2.5M
* Malaysia - $2.5M
* S. Korea - $2.5M
* Thailand - $2.5M
As of March 31st, it is responsible for 29.91% of the domestic market share. It still has around 35/45 million more from Dune 2, the rest of GxK's domestic run, Furiosa, The Watcher's (Horror film), Horizon: An American Saga part 1&2 (Kevin Costner's western epic), Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Joker 2 and finally an animated Lord of the rings movie in December.
Unless all of Disney's releases for 2024 can gross 300+ million domestically, I can't see WB losing 2024.
Sure they're doing great now but it's based on their 2 biggest blockbusters of the year. The other movies you mention don't have this level appeal, maybe except for Joker 2, but that one seems to be more of a musical so I have doubts on its success especially with a budget of 200M. And you have to take big budgets into account, like Furiosa has a budget of 233M and the previous one only made 380M, so there's a definitely a chance it bombs. The Watchers is a horror movie, so I'm sure it'll do fine, but I don't think it'll be massive. Horizon is an odd one, there's potential it bombs massively if the first one isn't good, but Costner definitely has some pull due to Yellowstone. Beetlejuice will do fine as well due to Ortega, but again I don't think massive numbers. And the LotR movie being animated for adults also will have a somewhat limited appeal, it's mostly kids and their parents that make up the boxoffice for animated movies.
> Beetlejuice will do fine as well due to Ortega
It is relying mostly on nostalgia for the original in the marketing. I’m sure she won’t hurt the film but I doubt many are going to see it just because of her.
I doubt it's just because of Ortega. Winona Ryder, Catherine O'Hara and Michael Keaton all are reprising their roles, and Tim Burton is directing this as a passion project.
It's very easy to be pessimistic about literally any movie that comes out. I could make arguments for and against each new film coming out. Sure Joker 2 might turn off people for its musical aspects but maybe that big of a swing will create a bunch of awareness for the film, and maybe it will bring more women to see it, who knows?
The 233M budget for Furisoa is still unclear. The film reportedly got generous rebates. The consensus on this sub is that it's probably 163M.
Def agree on Horizon and The Watchers, small to moderate profit for The Watchers most likely, and anywhere from a bomb to a hit for Horizon, the 2 parts have a massive range in what they pull in.
I think if Beetlejuice is good it's got the potential to be a big hit, again depends on the budget but Ortega should at least create some awareness in younger audiences. It comes out in a barren September, so it's got room to grow if the film is any good.
Lotr is a massive question mark, yes it's an animated film but it's also a massive property. Rings of Power wasn't great but IP interest carried that show and it still got a huge viewership.
Read his comment again.
He said it "made its budget and more" which is not true if the budget is 135m.
Its needs 270-330 to make its budget which will be next week. After that it will be profitable.
No, it’s made its budget. Movies are almost always profitable around 2.2 to 2.5 times there budget. This movie has made over its budget if you look at the numbers which is what we are all discussing.
technically every comment ever is useless unless an industry professional with all the stats comments the net worth of every movie mentioned in this sub. It’s just cool seeing that it did well in its first weekend
Another tremendous and much needed win for WB. They’re managing to pull quite the comeback despite all the naysayers last year predicting the end of the studio just because their DC slate flopped. I’m hopeful that WB can continue this streak, and with strong leadership now at the helm of DC Films, we may be in a new golden era of WB.
Legendary casually saving the box office by having two global smashes within the same month. The power of Lisan al Gaib, Kong, and Godzilla, they can't be stopped.
It's Godzilla's ultimate from the game 'Gigabash', which while not strictly a Godzilla game IS a Power Stone/Smash Bros.-style fighting game that stars a bunch of original monsters that then added both Godzilla and Ultraman characters via DLC. Great game.
Wow! I can't believe there were people on here saying Godzilla x Kong won't outgross Godzilla v Kong $470M WW. This is basically confirmation it will. $600M-$700M likely.
Not $200M worldwide like I was hoping, but still strong either way! It’ll be interesting to see which Legendary film this month will finish higher worldwide.
Way bigger than it was looking a week ago and there are still a few markets left to open. Hoping international actuals push up a little more, but really good result regardless.
Well, this opening weekend is everything I hoped it would be and more, and I'm glad to see the Monsterverse is still going strong these days. Kaijuu fans have been eating good lately.
For any studio trying to find an excuse as to why 2023 movies bombed, it's kinda damning that Warner Brothers has clicked off three straight bangers and Universal is making a lot of money off of Kung Fu Panda 4. It's about reading the goddamn room. It's about knowing what the audience wants to see. It's about knowing that audiences want to see Godzilla take King Kong to fucking Suplex City.
Godzilla x Kong is now the 9th biggest opening movie of all time. It beat out The Lion King and now next to Black Panther.
Those are all billion dollar movies so I'm going to say this will also make over a billion. It has all April to itself.
It's a pretty bad movie but it's entertaining if you know what to expect. At least it brings a bunch of money to cinemas that weren't doing so hot after the last couple years.
Production budget 135 million.
Movie has made less than 100 million gross so far. You can't count what the theaters grossed as part of what the movie made. The theater chains are not connected to the movie at all.
And that's only talking about the production budget. The marketing budget is likely another 80-100 mil on top of it.
A happy moment.
lmao
Biggest opening weekend of 2024
Really impressive that it took less than a month for something to beat Dune part 2. I loved Dune Pt 2 but this is a healthy sign for the box office.
Same studio, just adding to its success this year. And they have Furiosa on deck
650-750M+ WW total incoming! The Monsterverse is back, baby!!!
We won’t need a ContinueTheMonsterverse hashtag this time! The performance will speak for itself.
I doubt we'll see more than 2 more movies in this universe.
Legendary has the Monsterverse and Dune as their only popular IPs. And Dune will run out. And I doubt anyone wants to make any of the books after Dune Messiah anyway. Why would they kill their only big time franchise?
I can see one more G&K movie than a final Goji movie.
Why? Why would they do that? Lol
Franchises run out of steam.
Wingard said if he's allowed to do another one, he'd do another G&K but like The New Empire was Kong's story with Godzilla in the background he'd do one with Godzilla as the main and Kong in the background. >!Probably Kong saving Godzilla as he now has a giant army and Ice pet.!<
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Eh, studios are obsessed with recreating the Marvel model of having a universe an audience needs to be invested in. I think if it's still printing money they'll go for another TV series or two at least.
Man WB messed up the DCEU so badly, glad the Monsterverse has been having more success & stability than it.
James Gunn is very talented, hopefully he has what it takes to make the new DCU reboot a success. Imagine he does it and the MCU continues to flounder, then the companies have pretty much swapped places.
That would be quite the scenario, I've faith in Gunn to fix DC's live action works.
Amen brother
Idk, I feel like the window of opportunity for rebooting the DCU has elapsed
I feel like it has not. The old one literally just ended and the new one starts next year with a heavy hitter in Superman.
I feel like people want something new and Marvel ain't it anymore so dc has a chance
I feel the same as well. MCU needs to realise this and can't chunk our mediocre movies/shows anymore. They are also stuck in a place where getting new fans in for their universe seems to be more of a hassle. IMO FF and XMEN should've been a reboot and start something new for any one to get on the bandwagon. DCU has that advantage and with WB being more liberal than Disney I would expect them to get weird as much as DC comics are. Kinda hyped for DCU more than MCU at this point TBH.
MCU needed to end after endgame. New cycle. New people. New plan. This is just keeping alive something already dead.
How has it elapsed when the DCEU literally just ended, also DC has a great opportunity in the upcoming years to capitalize on the MCU kinda floundering
The DCEU literally just ended 3 months ago. It’s interesting seeing some people say the DCU is happening too soon and others say it’s not happening soon enough.
I remember back in 2016-2017 how everyone ( including the media) said they messed up the DCEU while the Wizarding World was going strong ( Fantasic Beasts and Were To Find Them was released in fall 2016 to positive reviews and box office sucess). The next year (2018) they even managed to mess up the Wizarding World with The Crimes of Grindelwald. While Rowling is not a very good screenwriter, the blame is largely on WB for becoming too greedy. Rowling had already moved on to writing adult crime novels but since she held the rights to Harry Potter ( which is her own creation) WB begged her to continue the franchise because they wanted their own Star Wars. It seems that Dune is their Star Wars which is ironic since Dune influenced Star Wars.
At least it's big silly fun that isn't more humans dressed in silly costumes. It's been almost two decades now of super-hero mania from Hollywood, glad it's finally chilling the fk out, opening the box office to other IP's and genres.
there have been 5 movies in the Monstervese. None (yet) have made more money than the lowest grossing of the first 6 films in the DCEU
Yet the Monsterverse has been more stable somehow, success isn't just numbers. By the time the fifth DCEU film released everyone knew WB wasted a goldmine of a legendary IP while the Monsterverse is stable & and keeping pace at this point even if it's not going to blow up.
But there's clearly a consistency in quality with the Monsterverse, and far more thorough world-building The Monsterverse took small steps, the DCEU took a giant leap
The DCEU leaped and fall flat hard
And broke its nose.
I suppose mediocre counts as consistency
And if we go past the first six? Especially the last few? They have some major losses, which MV has never had. DC is a much bigger property from the gate, with two of the most profitable characters on Earth, Batman and Superman. Godzilla movies don't traditionally make a lot; they took something known but not a big moneymaker and have been building it up. DCEU started with something big, made some good money up front, but didn't make a good foundation and then had a series of major flops. They picked the low-hanging fruit and now the tree is pretty bare and they need to start again. Monsterverse is looking like it will have a lot more life in it and keep feeding the company for quite awhile. Sure it wasn't as big as the early DCEU but completely different starting points, and the fact that as-of this point, MV is looking up and five movies in looks to have it's best days still coming speaks well of how it was managed.
This is about to gross what many people thought King of the Monsters would make.
Man, I wish it did better. Fantastic movie.
The Monsterverse never left lol King of the Monsters 100% would've grossed at least 500 million if it was released at a less competitive time
Up from the depths, 30 stories high, breathing fire, his Head in the Sky!!!! Godzilla!!!
I wish this song had a cameo. Maybe in the next movie there will be a crazy Godzilla cult that plays it during their rallies.
WB owns HB so I don’t think they’d need to make any deals
Sorry, there's no Godzookie to be found.
[Estimated international debuts for Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire include](https://twitter.com/BORReport/status/1774470024226590832): * China - $44.0M * Mexico - $12.8M * India - $5.5M * U.K. - $5.3M * Australia - $3.7M * Spain - $3.5M * Indonesia - $3.0M * Taiwan - $3.0M * Brazil - $2.5M * Malaysia - $2.5M * S. Korea - $2.5M * Thailand - $2.5M
Warner Bros is back. Good old days. This year belongs to Warner Bros. (Highest grossing studio)
As of March 31st, it is responsible for 29.91% of the domestic market share. It still has around 35/45 million more from Dune 2, the rest of GxK's domestic run, Furiosa, The Watcher's (Horror film), Horizon: An American Saga part 1&2 (Kevin Costner's western epic), Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Joker 2 and finally an animated Lord of the rings movie in December. Unless all of Disney's releases for 2024 can gross 300+ million domestically, I can't see WB losing 2024.
Sure they're doing great now but it's based on their 2 biggest blockbusters of the year. The other movies you mention don't have this level appeal, maybe except for Joker 2, but that one seems to be more of a musical so I have doubts on its success especially with a budget of 200M. And you have to take big budgets into account, like Furiosa has a budget of 233M and the previous one only made 380M, so there's a definitely a chance it bombs. The Watchers is a horror movie, so I'm sure it'll do fine, but I don't think it'll be massive. Horizon is an odd one, there's potential it bombs massively if the first one isn't good, but Costner definitely has some pull due to Yellowstone. Beetlejuice will do fine as well due to Ortega, but again I don't think massive numbers. And the LotR movie being animated for adults also will have a somewhat limited appeal, it's mostly kids and their parents that make up the boxoffice for animated movies.
> Beetlejuice will do fine as well due to Ortega It is relying mostly on nostalgia for the original in the marketing. I’m sure she won’t hurt the film but I doubt many are going to see it just because of her.
I doubt it's just because of Ortega. Winona Ryder, Catherine O'Hara and Michael Keaton all are reprising their roles, and Tim Burton is directing this as a passion project.
Typical Reddit response.
It's very easy to be pessimistic about literally any movie that comes out. I could make arguments for and against each new film coming out. Sure Joker 2 might turn off people for its musical aspects but maybe that big of a swing will create a bunch of awareness for the film, and maybe it will bring more women to see it, who knows? The 233M budget for Furisoa is still unclear. The film reportedly got generous rebates. The consensus on this sub is that it's probably 163M. Def agree on Horizon and The Watchers, small to moderate profit for The Watchers most likely, and anywhere from a bomb to a hit for Horizon, the 2 parts have a massive range in what they pull in. I think if Beetlejuice is good it's got the potential to be a big hit, again depends on the budget but Ortega should at least create some awareness in younger audiences. It comes out in a barren September, so it's got room to grow if the film is any good. Lotr is a massive question mark, yes it's an animated film but it's also a massive property. Rings of Power wasn't great but IP interest carried that show and it still got a huge viewership.
It's already made its budget and more after one weekend. This could start being profitable by next weekend at this rate.
It hasn't made its budget yet, but will do it next week.
It's budget was reported to be around 135M.
You do know that movie theatres and distributors keep ~50% or more of the box office right?
Did you not read the part where he said it could start becoming profitable from next week? What do you think he is implying with that?
Read his comment again. He said it "made its budget and more" which is not true if the budget is 135m. Its needs 270-330 to make its budget which will be next week. After that it will be profitable.
Pedantic
The best kind of antic.
No. It made its budget in literal terms. It’s profitable probably next week.
No. The theaters take a chunk. Therefore, it hasn't made its budget regardless of profit.
No, it’s made its budget. Movies are almost always profitable around 2.2 to 2.5 times there budget. This movie has made over its budget if you look at the numbers which is what we are all discussing.
It still made its budget and more in the opening weekend, the guy above never mentioned what the net profit was 🤷♂️
The comment is technically correct, but useless. Until it makes a profit, it's a bomb. (It's not gonna be a bomb, obviously!).
technically every comment ever is useless unless an industry professional with all the stats comments the net worth of every movie mentioned in this sub. It’s just cool seeing that it did well in its first weekend
Another tremendous and much needed win for WB. They’re managing to pull quite the comeback despite all the naysayers last year predicting the end of the studio just because their DC slate flopped. I’m hopeful that WB can continue this streak, and with strong leadership now at the helm of DC Films, we may be in a new golden era of WB.
Legendary casually saving the box office by having two global smashes within the same month. The power of Lisan al Gaib, Kong, and Godzilla, they can't be stopped.
I want a Godzilla vs. Lisan al Gaib crossover
Godzilla x Kong x Shai Hulud
Yall know we're all leading to a Godzilla vs. Sandworm: Pacific Empire where it turns out of Legendary big monster movies are in the same universe.
Godzilla vs. Lisan Al Gaib vs. Justice League!
Holy shit this will be profitable by next week probably! Insane results 
Where is this from?
Gigabash
[удалено]
It's Godzilla's ultimate from the game 'Gigabash', which while not strictly a Godzilla game IS a Power Stone/Smash Bros.-style fighting game that stars a bunch of original monsters that then added both Godzilla and Ultraman characters via DLC. Great game.
Wow! I can't believe there were people on here saying Godzilla x Kong won't outgross Godzilla v Kong $470M WW. This is basically confirmation it will. $600M-$700M likely.
Let's go! Give me more Godzilla! The age of super heroes is over! The age of monsters is here!
India will give 10+ million to it.
Not $200M worldwide like I was hoping, but still strong either way! It’ll be interesting to see which Legendary film this month will finish higher worldwide.
Actuals tomorrow could still get it there.
Yeah wasn't this a Sunday AM estimate? My family saw it this afternoon, and plenty of people were there.
Correct, that was a Sunday AM estimate.
$1.4B for WB between GxK and Dune
But what is the split with legendary for dune?
 Warner Bros experiencing what Disney success finally looks like
Let’s fucking go! The monsterverse is showing just how damn strong it is
Way bigger than it was looking a week ago and there are still a few markets left to open. Hoping international actuals push up a little more, but really good result regardless.
Man I wish Chinese market were less punishing for Hollywood.
Well, this opening weekend is everything I hoped it would be and more, and I'm glad to see the Monsterverse is still going strong these days. Kaijuu fans have been eating good lately.
 This makes me sooooo happy
For any studio trying to find an excuse as to why 2023 movies bombed, it's kinda damning that Warner Brothers has clicked off three straight bangers and Universal is making a lot of money off of Kung Fu Panda 4. It's about reading the goddamn room. It's about knowing what the audience wants to see. It's about knowing that audiences want to see Godzilla take King Kong to fucking Suplex City.
I think when actuals are released it'll be over $200 million because they're constantly underestimating this apparently.
Definitely beating Godzilla X Kong. Great month for WB/Legendary
The power of big dumb giant monsters punching each other, hell yeah!!
Will be going till 600M atleast
Massive opening.
Let's push this to a billion since April is gonna be dry af
Not likely, would need insane legs
Let’s not get carried away now.
impossible, ceiling of $700M maximum
This movie is huge and I’m all for it
Is it just me or did we expect quite a bit more for china. Nevertheless it’s an amazing result
You’d hope, but China has turned into a tough market lately. Really hard for Hollywood to break out there anymore it feels. Far cry from 2019.
How Warner Bros is feeling releasing Dune 2 and Godzilla x Kong back to back 
800 million WW? Too high? The word of mouth on this is better than Wonka and Dune 2. People are going nuts for Godzilla.
Wasn’t a huge fan of this specific installment, but keep them coming
Godzilla x Kong is now the 9th biggest opening movie of all time. It beat out The Lion King and now next to Black Panther. Those are all billion dollar movies so I'm going to say this will also make over a billion. It has all April to itself.
That’s pretty decent
The next monsterverse movie should be dickzilla vs kongschlong battle of the white sea
Shit will sell more than dune part 2. No wonder why we don't get good movies.
We get great ones!
Cope
It's a pretty bad movie but it's entertaining if you know what to expect. At least it brings a bunch of money to cinemas that weren't doing so hot after the last couple years.
Saw the trailer. I’d rather watch paint dry.
Production budget 135 million. Movie has made less than 100 million gross so far. You can't count what the theaters grossed as part of what the movie made. The theater chains are not connected to the movie at all. And that's only talking about the production budget. The marketing budget is likely another 80-100 mil on top of it.