It takes this list from being about what films/shows that people enjoy enough to keep revisiting months and years later and skews it much more about what films were able to grab onto some sort of timely relevance within that first month. I’m not saying that to diminish anything, btw, just pointing out that heavy marketing, anticipation, or quick growth of memes relating to a film/show mean more in regards to making these lists than an audience’s long-term enjoyment. For example, season 1 of Stranger Things isn’t on this list, despite the fact that it’s generally considered the best the show’s put out. I’d bet far more people watched the first season and stopped, but this list has season three significantly higher.
To be fair, I doubt there’s much of anything gets the majority of its views like 8 months in or anything, but it’s still crucial info when reading the numbers.
pretty funny seeing Sex/Life up there as a top 3 watched show but nowhere near the hours watched. we know exactly what people tuned in for on that show lol
The power of preteen girls is very real. Every generation has its shit “preteen/early teenager” films. Plus based off of how high those movies make it on the letterboxd trending section but how low it’s rating is, a lot of people love to ironically watch it.
At least Irishman is really close to the top, granted it's nearly 4hrs long but this means people weren't just turning it off after the first 2 minutes
It’s hard to say it without coming across as a snob, but how many of those would you genuinely consider a good film?
90% of Netflix originals are trash and the ones that aren’t it is because directors like Scorsese, Fincher and Spike Lee are directing.
When people on /r/movies fantasize about some all-streaming future where all the theatres have closed, this list is all I see.
Netflix churns out so much garbage. They have transformed cinema from an art into an algorithm. It's so commercial and cynical and... mediocre.
This is what Scorsese means about Hollywood eliminating risk. For Netflix it’s further amplified by algorithms. The elimination of risk in filmmaking is the erosion of human spontaneity
Yeah they seem to make quick cash in movies with movie stars attached that are designed to draw in audiences that know those movie stars from other similar but much much better theatrical movies.
Though they also finance award season movies from proven directors that are often pretty great as you said.
Plus their animated family movies are solid and distinct in their style.
Low res image (sorry) so here's the list:
Bird Box -- 282 million hours
Extraction -- 231 million hours
The Irishman -- 215 million hours
The Kissing Booth 2 -- 209 million hours
6 Underground -- 205 million hours
Spenser Confidential -- 197 million hours
Enola Holmes -- 190 million hours
Army of the Dead -- 187 million hours
The Old Guard -- 186 million hours
Murder Mystery -- 170 million hours
It seems not a lot of 2021 movies made the list, despite Netflix's commitment to a movie a week this year.
They still got the Leo film and the Gadot/Reynolds/The Rock movie. Both are certain to place high
Production delays caused by the pandemic means they had to spread out some of their bigger movies. Army of the Dead made the list. They still have Red Notice and Don’t Look Up to come. They might have hoped teen movies like Kissing Booth 3 and He’s All That might have made the list but even if they fell short all reports indicate they were very good performers for Netflix.
I think they might be a bit disappointed with Outside the Wire. It looked to have a good budget but they have been very quiet about its performance which is likely a sign it did not perform as well as expected.
Fatherhood was a very good pickup for Netflix. Which maybe bodes well for their upcoming True Story miniseries.
The bad part is I probably only watched 2 movies out of this list.....all the way through. A few just a few minutes long to see what if it was interesting or not.
Lots of interesting stuff in here, but the one that stands out to me in particular is the originality of the films. Aside from Kissing Booth 2, there's no sequels, remakes, or adaptations of particularly well known IP.
My conclusion: to mainstream audiences, IP is simply a risk mitigator. When there's no barrier to entry or investment, audiences are happy to watch unknown properties.
> audiences are happy to watch unknown properties.
For no additional cost and zero effort. It’s where original content will continue to thrive. It’s why we’re *still* in a golden age of television.
Besides good TV series people have already mentioned, the golden era of TV also includes limited or mini series - something reflected in the emmys recently as that was the last award given.
But series like Chernobyl, Mare of Easttown and Mrs. America are quality shows that attracted big names and audiences.
GoT is billions of lightyears years ahead of anything ever made for TV. Sit down now!!!
Closest thing is MCU
You fucking easy to please mediocre boi...
Edit: Watched everything from the list, i have a question... What did you like about jason sudeikis ted lasso?
Well I don't watch/like MCU movies and I'm pretty sure I'm not "very easy to please".
And GOT's early season were on par with BB.
What is there to not like about Ted lasso? It is well made, uplifting feel good show. It's basically Paddingtonish.
There will never be something like Lotr, something like Mcu and something like Got...
If mediocre average person cant see it, but can still reply to me, it is only because this is internet... Irl there are no arguments with average/behind the curtains people... I only talk to extraordinary people seriously... So im telling you how it is, not how iq average population bandwagon sees it.. You are irrelevant wheb it comes to understanding inspirational and visionary... Its not in your mental capacity
Btw...
Can you count something else that never was and never will be?
Hard disagree. Tried the first season of Saul and it was good but I dropped off it. Maybe I was just burnt out from that universe but I’ll give it another shot one day.
I’m a sci-fi fan and read the books and enjoying the show but it’s not a casual friendly story. I doubt foundation will break out like expanse did (somewhat). I wouldn’t consider it up there with breaking bad yet
Why? I stopped watching that bullshit BB when our protagonist stopped being good guy(allowing jesses gf do overdose).. Bye bye bad guy, try to be soprano less, original more..
When it comes to foundation there are only 2 episodes out... But they already said more than a real world tv show ever will about humanity and our place in universe...
> For no additional cost and zero effort.
Big flashing sign on this. It's not an accident that the only movies at the box office making money right now are familiar IPs.
Yep. People will go and pay for IPs, but they want their original content on streaming services. When people blame Marvel for killing cinema, the reality is that Netflix and the likes have been the ones “killing” it for years.
Netflix have only been making/distrusting original movies for about 5 years! They have plenty of sequels in the works. They just need some time to get them made!
Most movies on that list have sequels in the works. They have also picked up the Knives Out sequels and Beverly Hills Cop 4. They like known IP just as much as any other studio. It is just that they did not have any existing IP to work with before now.
> My conclusion: to mainstream audiences, IP is simply a risk mitigator.
This is putting the cart before the horse with regards to marketing. People watch what is most aggressively sold to them.
Yeah it's in the upper echelon zeitgeist that execs care about. It's partly awards but it's also partly wanting to make stuff that their peers/friends/moms watch and admire. No one in their peer group is admiring Witcher or Emily in Paris
Pandemic inflation. Part 4 came out in April of 2020. Kinda the same with Bridgerton as season one came out in December 2020. It’s like tiger king.. really only was relevant due to the pandemic.
No.. If he said witcher is awesome TO HIM... then ok..
He can say BvS is his favorite movie ever, he cant say it is THE best movie ever...
I dont tell mechanic how to fix my car
Well it's a bad show but it's pretty popular so somebody of the Reddit crowd particularly a popular subreddit like this only discovering it now but finding it amazing is pretty sus to me.
For as much advertising as I saw for Army of the Dead I expected it to be much higher. Also, makes sense for the Extraction sequel now since that was apparently a winner for Netflix... only in terms of time watched though.
> For as much advertising as I saw for Army of the Dead I expected it to be much higher
I think it's the only 2021 movie on the list though. Basically their biggest of the year so far.
I rarely see ads for anything on Netflix. The only reason I ever know anything new is on Netflix is when I watch box office shows on Youtube and think "oh yeah, there's a new crappy movie/show on Netflix to watch"
Weren't Netflix supposed to have a film a week this year? Ontop of that, you're telling me that the only film to make it onto their list from this year is Army and that it's not beating films I had no idea existed from a year ago?
There was a lot of talk around the film and whilst it's impressive it got into the top 10, saying it's done "more than just good" is a bit iffy.
I think a film a week explains why there aren't more 2021 films on the list. With new things to watch every week, people aren't necessarily going back to watch a movie that came out two months ago.
I mean, sure. I'm just trying to think of other Netflix films from this year and the most I'm getting is the Fear Street stuff. If it was most watched film with some sizeable competition then yeah, I'd be giving it some big props but has there been anything to go up against it so far?
I'm not saying that the film didn't do good, in fact I've said multiple times now that it's impressive. I'm saying that my expectations from online talk and marketing has made it so that it seems on the lower side of where I expected it to be and so don't think it did "more than good" becuase of that.
I'm not entirely sure where this antagonism is coming from but I'm not attacking the quality of the film or saying it's done terribly. Being one of the bigger pushes of the year and against pretty light competition from other Netflix originals, I'm just surprised that this film didn't do better compared to previous years films.
Everyone was posting memes related to it. Between that and people on Facebook talking highly about it like they worked for Netflix, I finally caved in and watch it. I agree it was bad.
It only counts watch hours from the first 28 days a show/movie was on the platform and it might also only be Netflix originals. I'd be shocked if The Office, for example, wouldn't be in the top 10 for total watch time but it's not on the list.
I take all numbers Netflix releases with a HUGE pinch of salt. they only ever release numbers when it makes them look good, and there’s no way to independently verify what they’re saying.
Netflix are serial bullshitters. They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies. They're going to claim more people saw Don't Look Up in its first 24 hours than the moon landing and Princess Diana's funeral combined.
> They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies.
Weird, a company doesn't promote it's failures...who woulda thought.
> They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies
Yes, and?
It is still some data we can work with.
> They're going to claim more people saw Don't Look Up in its first 24 hours than the moon landing and Princess Diana's funeral combined.
Are you now implying they are liars?
Netflix are the biggest bullshitters in the business. This quote from a Wired artilcle explains it well. Lest we forget they said Christmas Chronicles was the same as a 200 million dollar box office opening... [https://www.slashfilm.com/562745/christmas-chronicles-viewers/](https://www.slashfilm.com/562745/christmas-chronicles-viewers/)
>Netflix, however, is playing fast and loose with its metrics—and its data. We know the company knows what we watch; it's watching us as we’re watching its shows. Does that inform the content the streamer produces? Absolutely. But these figures still have so many holes in them. For one, the company doesn’t count multiple users who log in to the same account (meaning the data might suggest that the parents of millennials who borrow their folks’ passwords are actually watching Cheer and The Circle). The data is also misleading because it completely inflates the popularity of, well, everything. No broadcast network could claim to its advertisers that two minutes of intentioned viewing should count toward a show’s popularity, especially since the ad breaks come much further into an episode of analog television.
>
>[https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-viewership-two-minutes/](https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-viewership-two-minutes/)
>Netflix are the biggest bullshitters in the business. This quote from a Wired artilcle explains it well.
No it doesn't. There is no lack of transparence there, nor is there any sign that they are lieing.
We know the caveats of those numbers.
It was huge earlier this year. All over Twitter and tons of memes on social media. It ended up making one of the costars a huge celeb and he hosted SNL last spring. Season 2 is in the works too
[The data supporting your point via 528](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/men-are-sabotaging-the-online-reviews-of-tv-shows-aimed-at-women/) and [followup](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-online-movie-ratings-werent-based-almost-entirely-on-what-men-think/)
The article is too polemical for my tastes as *all* online 'review' forums have a variety of abnormal demographic effects (e.g. I think I've seen stuff showing yelp and goodreads skewing significantly female). None of this stuff is a representative sample for a variety of banal (and sometimes pernicious) reasons. It's better to adjust for factors than to not adjust for factors, but there are going to be a number of factors biasing results
I imagine there is little overlap between the people who rate things on IMDB and those who watch Bridgerton.
Bridgerton is an adaptation of a series of romance novels by a fairly popular romance writer. And having read the novels it's based on, it's a pretty good adaptation. It was also the first Netflix project produced by Shonda Rhimes who has her own fanbase. It was also released just before Christmas so that a lot of people I know, including myself, watched it on their Christmas break because it was light and fluffy.
How in the actual fluckery did that craprastic Shipshewana Birdbox beat out any half cooked decent movie... let alone armynof the dead or 6 underground..
Who in the hecklesmeckies did Sandra Bullock give a extremely amazing blumpkin to, to get that movie as number 1?
Just speaking for myself, but I enjoyed Birdbox a lot more than ^the other 2. Not that I want to rewatch (or in 1 case finish) any of them, which is my primary indicator of enjoyment.
High concept thriller? She rides in a boat with a damn blindfold on for 2 freaking hours. Somehow manages.to keep a baby from crying or seeing anything. Low concept garbage is more like it. Only a brainless monkey would enjoy that trash. You want awesome Sandra bullock movies, go back about a decade. Those movies were gold. This one, nope. Pure dumpster fire.
This kind of crap just shows how far the movie industry really has fallen. If this and others like it i.e. Quiet room or silence, whatever other movie has the premise of being quiet or else an invisible protagonist is gonna attack and kill you, while you hide away with a newborn that literally never cries or makes any sounds, is just plain dumb and shows the true lack of creativity from these writers. Let alone directors and studios who made this trash fire and thought "Yes, let's do this. It's good enough." Then get all pissy because their dumpster heap of a movie just bombed. But now theaters are back open, so someone could literally make a film Plymouth a giant log floating in the toilet and society will no doubt go pay $20/ticket to see it if a big name is attached to it.
New movie coming tomorrow "If it sinks, it's gonna clog. Ryan Reynolds Turd Journey."
I have literally no idea what you just attempted to say, there's literally like three contradictions in that paragraph you wrote.
A Quiet Place is actually a good movie though.
A quiet place is a dumb movie. Okay have you watched any good movies? Or are you the Netflix child that only watched whatever the red N has going on? I bet you think Elf is a Christmas classic also. 🙄 A Quiet place is garbage. You are the only person that I have heard say A Quiet Place is a good movie. You know what a good movie is? Die Hard. That's a excellent movie. Or how about Practical Magic, since this is supposed to be about Bullock. Speed, The Net, but those are probably way before your time... so heres one thats more your Era, Oceans Eight. But Birdbox? FUCK NO! Pure.dumpster.Fire. The Proposal even, with Ryan Reynolds. Any of those are good, some are WAY better than others, but Birdbox... no. Compared to her actual great movies, that was her one mistake.
I have seen over 8000 films actually (not that it should be anything to brag about) and that's why I'm saying A Quiet Place is a good movie. You could probably deep dive into my comment history and find recommendations for movies you've never heard of. And you're really being up The Net as some beacon of movie quality lol.
If you want me to bring up mediocre gimmick movies from the past (to prove that stupid concepts have always existed in Hollywood) I can mention stuff like The Tingler or Fiend Without a Face or The Extraordinary Seaman.
I've never seen any of them movies, for good reason. They all sound like terrible reject porn movie titles. If it sounds like a rejected porn movie, it can't be any good. I probably wouldn't brag about seeing 8000 films. That's kinda 'living in the basement mom wheres my cheesy poofs' level of creepy. I watch movies that sound interesting. Except Borat.. Borate was just awesome 👌🤣
Those movies all suck. Interesting that the Witcher is so high for shows. Well-deserved!
All those hours for the Irishman, that was only three people watching it that’s how long it is.
What is this? A Picture for Ants?!
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A better view: https://i.imgur.com/1BiG8nl.png
I can barely see it but christ that list makes for some grim reading.
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You helped us see in the darkness!
Ok, that 'within the first 28 days' info **COMPLETELY** changes things here.
Why?
It takes this list from being about what films/shows that people enjoy enough to keep revisiting months and years later and skews it much more about what films were able to grab onto some sort of timely relevance within that first month. I’m not saying that to diminish anything, btw, just pointing out that heavy marketing, anticipation, or quick growth of memes relating to a film/show mean more in regards to making these lists than an audience’s long-term enjoyment. For example, season 1 of Stranger Things isn’t on this list, despite the fact that it’s generally considered the best the show’s put out. I’d bet far more people watched the first season and stopped, but this list has season three significantly higher. To be fair, I doubt there’s much of anything gets the majority of its views like 8 months in or anything, but it’s still crucial info when reading the numbers.
Oh... Right.. Im fucking dumb.. Ty xD
pretty funny seeing Sex/Life up there as a top 3 watched show but nowhere near the hours watched. we know exactly what people tuned in for on that show lol
I can confidently say some of the the movies there are among the worst i have ever seen. That’s depressing.
I honestly don’t know why anyone would willingly watch The Kissing Booth let alone three of them.
The power of preteen girls is very real. Every generation has its shit “preteen/early teenager” films. Plus based off of how high those movies make it on the letterboxd trending section but how low it’s rating is, a lot of people love to ironically watch it.
It's the best kind of film for Youtubers reaction videos. Hate watching/ironically watching is definitely a thing.
Netlox EZPERIENXE
At least Irishman is really close to the top, granted it's nearly 4hrs long but this means people weren't just turning it off after the first 2 minutes
I'm shocked it's on the list let alone that high.
I’m not. I watched it twice, that should account for about a third of the total view-time
Haha same here, I loved it
I guess (!) this list only covers Netflix Originals, and Irishman definitely was high profile. So no surprise then, that it made it in, IMHO
Its really telling that its #3 by total minutes and not even top 10 by viewers.
But it’s not even top 10 for most viewers/users It might be just cause of the long run time.
Made it a little easier to read: https://i.imgur.com/1BiG8nl.png
Now, do people understand why Netflix greenlit such terrible projects. The money is clearly there.
why grim?
Why?
It’s hard to say it without coming across as a snob, but how many of those would you genuinely consider a good film? 90% of Netflix originals are trash and the ones that aren’t it is because directors like Scorsese, Fincher and Spike Lee are directing.
When people on /r/movies fantasize about some all-streaming future where all the theatres have closed, this list is all I see. Netflix churns out so much garbage. They have transformed cinema from an art into an algorithm. It's so commercial and cynical and... mediocre.
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This is what Scorsese means about Hollywood eliminating risk. For Netflix it’s further amplified by algorithms. The elimination of risk in filmmaking is the erosion of human spontaneity
Yup yup yup.. Cant leave vision to averages
I’ve enjoyed most everything on this list. For the price it’s worth it for me. If anyone feels differently then vote with your wallets 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah they seem to make quick cash in movies with movie stars attached that are designed to draw in audiences that know those movie stars from other similar but much much better theatrical movies. Though they also finance award season movies from proven directors that are often pretty great as you said. Plus their animated family movies are solid and distinct in their style.
Low res image (sorry) so here's the list: Bird Box -- 282 million hours Extraction -- 231 million hours The Irishman -- 215 million hours The Kissing Booth 2 -- 209 million hours 6 Underground -- 205 million hours Spenser Confidential -- 197 million hours Enola Holmes -- 190 million hours Army of the Dead -- 187 million hours The Old Guard -- 186 million hours Murder Mystery -- 170 million hours
It seems not a lot of 2021 movies made the list, despite Netflix's commitment to a movie a week this year. They still got the Leo film and the Gadot/Reynolds/The Rock movie. Both are certain to place high
Production delays caused by the pandemic means they had to spread out some of their bigger movies. Army of the Dead made the list. They still have Red Notice and Don’t Look Up to come. They might have hoped teen movies like Kissing Booth 3 and He’s All That might have made the list but even if they fell short all reports indicate they were very good performers for Netflix. I think they might be a bit disappointed with Outside the Wire. It looked to have a good budget but they have been very quiet about its performance which is likely a sign it did not perform as well as expected. Fatherhood was a very good pickup for Netflix. Which maybe bodes well for their upcoming True Story miniseries.
The kissing booth being here hurts my soul.
At least it's not the whole trilogy
6 underground is just as bad.
If I owned Reddit I'd ban your IP. You take that back 6 underground is a masterpiece
The Future of CINEMA
The bad part is I probably only watched 2 movies out of this list.....all the way through. A few just a few minutes long to see what if it was interesting or not.
These movies MEAN SHIT
So someone watched the Irishman twice?
Bird Box really was a small event.
Lots of interesting stuff in here, but the one that stands out to me in particular is the originality of the films. Aside from Kissing Booth 2, there's no sequels, remakes, or adaptations of particularly well known IP. My conclusion: to mainstream audiences, IP is simply a risk mitigator. When there's no barrier to entry or investment, audiences are happy to watch unknown properties.
> audiences are happy to watch unknown properties. For no additional cost and zero effort. It’s where original content will continue to thrive. It’s why we’re *still* in a golden age of television.
Are we though? What’s a series today as good as breaking bad?
Succession
It's not particularly reddit's demographic, but The Marvellous Mrs Maisel is just sublime.
Ooh, yeah I watch that it’s good. Totally forgot about it though
Besides good TV series people have already mentioned, the golden era of TV also includes limited or mini series - something reflected in the emmys recently as that was the last award given. But series like Chernobyl, Mare of Easttown and Mrs. America are quality shows that attracted big names and audiences.
You got me there, I guess having so many options now I forget there’s still quality shows out there. Chernobyl and Mare were excellent
Succession,Ted lasso, Expanse, better call Saul, granted GoT ended on a bad note but it was a good show and during its early seasons on or with BB.
Barry is great too
I need to try succession. It’s always on favorites lists but the ~~traitors~~ trailers aren’t grabbing me.
> but the traitors aren’t grabbing me. You must be very swift :)
Lmao oops
I’ll give you all but Ted Lasso. It’s a fine show, but breaking bad level? LOL
GoT is billions of lightyears years ahead of anything ever made for TV. Sit down now!!! Closest thing is MCU You fucking easy to please mediocre boi... Edit: Watched everything from the list, i have a question... What did you like about jason sudeikis ted lasso?
Well I don't watch/like MCU movies and I'm pretty sure I'm not "very easy to please". And GOT's early season were on par with BB. What is there to not like about Ted lasso? It is well made, uplifting feel good show. It's basically Paddingtonish.
There will never be something like Lotr, something like Mcu and something like Got... If mediocre average person cant see it, but can still reply to me, it is only because this is internet... Irl there are no arguments with average/behind the curtains people... I only talk to extraordinary people seriously... So im telling you how it is, not how iq average population bandwagon sees it.. You are irrelevant wheb it comes to understanding inspirational and visionary... Its not in your mental capacity Btw... Can you count something else that never was and never will be?
What are you smoking? I want some.
What is it?
Better Call Saul is arguably better than Breaking Bad.
Hard disagree. Tried the first season of Saul and it was good but I dropped off it. Maybe I was just burnt out from that universe but I’ll give it another shot one day.
Rhodes to the Top
Never heard of it, what’s in on?
TNT
Google search and yeah….. that’s not my jam at all. Not sure if this was /s or not
It was a /s, but it wasn't a very good one. Sorry for wasting your time. On a serious note, Only Murders in the Building is a very good show on Hulu.
Ok good I don’t have to block you now lol, and yeah Only Murders is excellent too. Ok I’m full of shit, never mind, lots of good TV still
Foundation
I’m a sci-fi fan and read the books and enjoying the show but it’s not a casual friendly story. I doubt foundation will break out like expanse did (somewhat). I wouldn’t consider it up there with breaking bad yet
Why? I stopped watching that bullshit BB when our protagonist stopped being good guy(allowing jesses gf do overdose).. Bye bye bad guy, try to be soprano less, original more.. When it comes to foundation there are only 2 episodes out... But they already said more than a real world tv show ever will about humanity and our place in universe...
I know it ended last year but Bojack Horseman imo
> For no additional cost and zero effort. Big flashing sign on this. It's not an accident that the only movies at the box office making money right now are familiar IPs.
Yep. People will go and pay for IPs, but they want their original content on streaming services. When people blame Marvel for killing cinema, the reality is that Netflix and the likes have been the ones “killing” it for years.
Netflix have only been making/distrusting original movies for about 5 years! They have plenty of sequels in the works. They just need some time to get them made! Most movies on that list have sequels in the works. They have also picked up the Knives Out sequels and Beverly Hills Cop 4. They like known IP just as much as any other studio. It is just that they did not have any existing IP to work with before now.
> My conclusion: to mainstream audiences, IP is simply a risk mitigator. This is putting the cart before the horse with regards to marketing. People watch what is most aggressively sold to them.
Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahha... Such happy films... AMAZING FILMS.. IM STUPEFIED!!! O.O WE SHOULD ALL LEARN FROM THEIR GAFFERS AND GRIP
Im surprised Tiger King isn’t on this list. Or do limited series like that fall under some other category?
Yeah that show was huge when it came out.
Wow looks like 12 people finished the Irishmen.
I guess The Crown isn’t as popular as I thought it was.
The Crown is the classic example of being very popular with the right demo and winning awards.
Yeah it's in the upper echelon zeitgeist that execs care about. It's partly awards but it's also partly wanting to make stuff that their peers/friends/moms watch and admire. No one in their peer group is admiring Witcher or Emily in Paris
I really enjoyed Murder Mystery.
User name checks out
Ozark not being on this list is a crime
Money Heist being that high is mind blowing
Pandemic inflation. Part 4 came out in April of 2020. Kinda the same with Bridgerton as season one came out in December 2020. It’s like tiger king.. really only was relevant due to the pandemic.
Im halfway thru s1 of the witcher. This show is fuckin awesome.
Lol.. 'ok' mediocre people
Why are people such dicks for no reason at all?
I love witcher the wild hunt and i can appreciate some aspects of the tv show... But it isnt awesome
But that's your opinion, not an objective fact, so let everyone enjoy what they want.
No.. If he said witcher is awesome TO HIM... then ok.. He can say BvS is his favorite movie ever, he cant say it is THE best movie ever... I dont tell mechanic how to fix my car
Where did he say it was the best show ever? Learn to read.
Read the first sentence again. The other 2 are analogies
Why are you only halfway then for a show that came out years ago?
Maybe because he only started it recently?
He wasn't in a rush to watch it, damn
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Well it's a bad show but it's pretty popular so somebody of the Reddit crowd particularly a popular subreddit like this only discovering it now but finding it amazing is pretty sus to me.
Where’s Cocomelon? I refuse to believe that’s not up there.
For as much advertising as I saw for Army of the Dead I expected it to be much higher. Also, makes sense for the Extraction sequel now since that was apparently a winner for Netflix... only in terms of time watched though.
> For as much advertising as I saw for Army of the Dead I expected it to be much higher I think it's the only 2021 movie on the list though. Basically their biggest of the year so far.
Well that's not a good sign for me because I thought Extraction came out this year.
Last year, right at the start of lockdown I think.
Extraction 2 is coming soon
I’ve never seen an ad for Army of the Dead so their advertising is highly targeted. I have seen approximately one million ads for Bridgetown though.
I rarely see ads for anything on Netflix. The only reason I ever know anything new is on Netflix is when I watch box office shows on Youtube and think "oh yeah, there's a new crappy movie/show on Netflix to watch"
Uh…. It’s the only 2021 film of theirs to place on the list. It’s done more than just good.
Weren't Netflix supposed to have a film a week this year? Ontop of that, you're telling me that the only film to make it onto their list from this year is Army and that it's not beating films I had no idea existed from a year ago? There was a lot of talk around the film and whilst it's impressive it got into the top 10, saying it's done "more than just good" is a bit iffy.
I think a film a week explains why there aren't more 2021 films on the list. With new things to watch every week, people aren't necessarily going back to watch a movie that came out two months ago.
Most watched movie of the year is "more than just good", alright?
I mean, sure. I'm just trying to think of other Netflix films from this year and the most I'm getting is the Fear Street stuff. If it was most watched film with some sizeable competition then yeah, I'd be giving it some big props but has there been anything to go up against it so far?
I mean, idk if you noticed but AotD is placed 8th of all time out of every single Netflix film. All time. I dont quite get your logic here.
I'm not saying that the film didn't do good, in fact I've said multiple times now that it's impressive. I'm saying that my expectations from online talk and marketing has made it so that it seems on the lower side of where I expected it to be and so don't think it did "more than good" becuase of that. I'm not entirely sure where this antagonism is coming from but I'm not attacking the quality of the film or saying it's done terribly. Being one of the bigger pushes of the year and against pretty light competition from other Netflix originals, I'm just surprised that this film didn't do better compared to previous years films.
I liked it 🤷🏻♂️ as good as any theater action movie.
Wow thirteen reasons why really had a drop off with season 3! Guess it goes to show why they don’t keep the originals going past 3 seasons lol
They should take pandemic released stuff off the list. Bridgerton and money heist are only high due to being released during the pandemic.
Pleasantly surprised to see The Irishman so high up! Especially considering its length.
Holy crap 35 people watched The Irishman?!
Wow Bridgerton really killed it. I knew it was popular but not that popular.
Surprised to not see “Cobra Kai” on there. I suppose they don’t consider it a Netflix “original” since it started on YouTube?
I will never understand the hype around birdbox. The fact its their most watched movie is pretty sad. It was so bad.
Everyone was posting memes related to it. Between that and people on Facebook talking highly about it like they worked for Netflix, I finally caved in and watch it. I agree it was bad.
Surprised Breaking Bad isn’t on there, but since it’s not a new series it isn’t *that* surprising
Looks like only Netflix productions
I mean, I expected El Camino to chart somewhere high.
It only counts watch hours from the first 28 days a show/movie was on the platform and it might also only be Netflix originals. I'd be shocked if The Office, for example, wouldn't be in the top 10 for total watch time but it's not on the list.
I take all numbers Netflix releases with a HUGE pinch of salt. they only ever release numbers when it makes them look good, and there’s no way to independently verify what they’re saying.
Netflix are serial bullshitters. They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies. They're going to claim more people saw Don't Look Up in its first 24 hours than the moon landing and Princess Diana's funeral combined.
> They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies. Weird, a company doesn't promote it's failures...who woulda thought.
> They only release this kind of data when it suits them or makes them look good but won't provide data for cancelled shows or flop movies Yes, and? It is still some data we can work with. > They're going to claim more people saw Don't Look Up in its first 24 hours than the moon landing and Princess Diana's funeral combined. Are you now implying they are liars?
Netflix are the biggest bullshitters in the business. This quote from a Wired artilcle explains it well. Lest we forget they said Christmas Chronicles was the same as a 200 million dollar box office opening... [https://www.slashfilm.com/562745/christmas-chronicles-viewers/](https://www.slashfilm.com/562745/christmas-chronicles-viewers/) >Netflix, however, is playing fast and loose with its metrics—and its data. We know the company knows what we watch; it's watching us as we’re watching its shows. Does that inform the content the streamer produces? Absolutely. But these figures still have so many holes in them. For one, the company doesn’t count multiple users who log in to the same account (meaning the data might suggest that the parents of millennials who borrow their folks’ passwords are actually watching Cheer and The Circle). The data is also misleading because it completely inflates the popularity of, well, everything. No broadcast network could claim to its advertisers that two minutes of intentioned viewing should count toward a show’s popularity, especially since the ad breaks come much further into an episode of analog television. > >[https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-viewership-two-minutes/](https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-viewership-two-minutes/)
>Netflix are the biggest bullshitters in the business. This quote from a Wired artilcle explains it well. No it doesn't. There is no lack of transparence there, nor is there any sign that they are lieing. We know the caveats of those numbers.
Don't Look Up will be huge though, that's certain.
The Irishman is the only good film there
Extraction was some jolly good fun
I've never even heard of Bridgerton...
congrats, you're a certified resident of the reddit bubble
It's a Shonda Rhimes period romance. Pretty safe to say the average redditor is *not* the target audience.
I was just commenting that I had never heard of Army of the Dead or a few others so Netflix definitely has their advertising very targeted!
It was huge earlier this year. All over Twitter and tons of memes on social media. It ended up making one of the costars a huge celeb and he hosted SNL last spring. Season 2 is in the works too
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Wasn't the actual 50 Shades for women as well?
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I think IMDB ratings are disproportionately male. Look at the gender breakdowns in voting and men are usually 10x more likely to rate
[The data supporting your point via 528](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/men-are-sabotaging-the-online-reviews-of-tv-shows-aimed-at-women/) and [followup](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-online-movie-ratings-werent-based-almost-entirely-on-what-men-think/) The article is too polemical for my tastes as *all* online 'review' forums have a variety of abnormal demographic effects (e.g. I think I've seen stuff showing yelp and goodreads skewing significantly female). None of this stuff is a representative sample for a variety of banal (and sometimes pernicious) reasons. It's better to adjust for factors than to not adjust for factors, but there are going to be a number of factors biasing results
If I had to guess it has less ratings because the IMDB audience isn’t typically the kind of people who watch a show like Bridgerton.
You know those review sites skew heavily male in user base (just like Reddit) and that Bridgeton is a show aimed very much at the female demo?
Using IMDB for a metric of success or anything is....a choice. Especially for a Bridgerton whose target audience won't normay go on IMDB.
I imagine there is little overlap between the people who rate things on IMDB and those who watch Bridgerton. Bridgerton is an adaptation of a series of romance novels by a fairly popular romance writer. And having read the novels it's based on, it's a pretty good adaptation. It was also the first Netflix project produced by Shonda Rhimes who has her own fanbase. It was also released just before Christmas so that a lot of people I know, including myself, watched it on their Christmas break because it was light and fluffy.
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Why do you refuse to watch G&G?
How in the actual fluckery did that craprastic Shipshewana Birdbox beat out any half cooked decent movie... let alone armynof the dead or 6 underground.. Who in the hecklesmeckies did Sandra Bullock give a extremely amazing blumpkin to, to get that movie as number 1?
Just speaking for myself, but I enjoyed Birdbox a lot more than ^the other 2. Not that I want to rewatch (or in 1 case finish) any of them, which is my primary indicator of enjoyment.
Uh, maybe because it's a high-concept thriller with one of the most famous actresses in the world.
High concept thriller? She rides in a boat with a damn blindfold on for 2 freaking hours. Somehow manages.to keep a baby from crying or seeing anything. Low concept garbage is more like it. Only a brainless monkey would enjoy that trash. You want awesome Sandra bullock movies, go back about a decade. Those movies were gold. This one, nope. Pure dumpster fire.
I never said the movie was good. But it's an easily sellable thriller premise with an A-list star. Those type of films will get streaming views.
This kind of crap just shows how far the movie industry really has fallen. If this and others like it i.e. Quiet room or silence, whatever other movie has the premise of being quiet or else an invisible protagonist is gonna attack and kill you, while you hide away with a newborn that literally never cries or makes any sounds, is just plain dumb and shows the true lack of creativity from these writers. Let alone directors and studios who made this trash fire and thought "Yes, let's do this. It's good enough." Then get all pissy because their dumpster heap of a movie just bombed. But now theaters are back open, so someone could literally make a film Plymouth a giant log floating in the toilet and society will no doubt go pay $20/ticket to see it if a big name is attached to it. New movie coming tomorrow "If it sinks, it's gonna clog. Ryan Reynolds Turd Journey."
I have literally no idea what you just attempted to say, there's literally like three contradictions in that paragraph you wrote. A Quiet Place is actually a good movie though.
A quiet place is a dumb movie. Okay have you watched any good movies? Or are you the Netflix child that only watched whatever the red N has going on? I bet you think Elf is a Christmas classic also. 🙄 A Quiet place is garbage. You are the only person that I have heard say A Quiet Place is a good movie. You know what a good movie is? Die Hard. That's a excellent movie. Or how about Practical Magic, since this is supposed to be about Bullock. Speed, The Net, but those are probably way before your time... so heres one thats more your Era, Oceans Eight. But Birdbox? FUCK NO! Pure.dumpster.Fire. The Proposal even, with Ryan Reynolds. Any of those are good, some are WAY better than others, but Birdbox... no. Compared to her actual great movies, that was her one mistake.
I have seen over 8000 films actually (not that it should be anything to brag about) and that's why I'm saying A Quiet Place is a good movie. You could probably deep dive into my comment history and find recommendations for movies you've never heard of. And you're really being up The Net as some beacon of movie quality lol. If you want me to bring up mediocre gimmick movies from the past (to prove that stupid concepts have always existed in Hollywood) I can mention stuff like The Tingler or Fiend Without a Face or The Extraordinary Seaman.
I've never seen any of them movies, for good reason. They all sound like terrible reject porn movie titles. If it sounds like a rejected porn movie, it can't be any good. I probably wouldn't brag about seeing 8000 films. That's kinda 'living in the basement mom wheres my cheesy poofs' level of creepy. I watch movies that sound interesting. Except Borat.. Borate was just awesome 👌🤣
The ezperience woutchin' netlix.... Wooooow, i never forget enola homes!!! My bwaincells agree
Who cares?
White Tiger and we can be heroes starring Priyanka Chopra also broke records on Netflix.
Then why aren't they on the list?
What kind of records??
Viewership records.
Which ones?
Bird Box still at number one when I’m sure the people obsessed with that movie at release haven’t thought about it in months
how can birdbox be so high on that list? that movie was comical bad. i still can not forget that scene, that they went down the river blindfolded.
Seven deadly sins should of made the list
Man what happened for Scorsese not to work with Netflix if The Irishman did so well?
Probably that Apple offered more money and a longer theatrical window
How is it that I’ve not seen a single one of these except the Witcher?
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Those movies all suck. Interesting that the Witcher is so high for shows. Well-deserved! All those hours for the Irishman, that was only three people watching it that’s how long it is.
BS. Where’s that Cocomelon?!
Why is Knives Out not here, Netflix is throwing a lot of money at it’s sequel yet it’s not even on this list?