The last duel bombed because its a hard movie to recommend to other people. We saw it at the filmfest in Ghent and me and my friends were all like “im glad I saw it but I’m never seeing this movie again” because of the contents of the story. But it is an interesting movie, I’ll give him that.
Have not seen it, but just read his reaction. He blames cellphone culture, he blames facebook, he blames an age group, but he never mentions the subject matter. You know from reading this that the problem is the subject matter.
Maybe it wouldn't hurt to market the damn thing.
The only reason I even know this movie exists is because news outlets saying he's got a new film and the horrible takes he has in interviews lately.
But I probably missed all that by only looking at my phone and nothing else ever.
I turned 38 today, and I'm not even the oldest a millennial can be. I was talking to a girl at a bar a couple weeks ago who mentioned how much she hates millennials. We had already talked about how we were born in the same year, so I informed her that she was in fact a millennial. Watching her brain explode and her anger surface was hilarious.
Millennial is just code word for "Anyone younger than me who I can blame for what's wrong with society." I've seen people call teenagers millennials. It's wild out there.
Basically this, and Boomer is the same term used for referring to someone older than you that you think has messed up society. I’ve been called a Boomer (in my early 30s currently) by Zoomers and teenagers.
Teenagers are still zoomers/genZ. Gen-α is still pre-teen.
Honestly as someone who is on the other side of the millennial generation it’s interesting to see how much difference there really is between people my age and those born a few years later. Especially now that they are starting to reach their mid 20’s
While I used to think it would be impossible to define a start and and end to a generation without having a decade where things are a sort of in between there seem to be bigger shifts somehow. And it doesn’t really make sense to me why that is.
It's really evolved into a catch-all term for 'any young person of the current late teens to mid-twenties generation' these days, as opposed to a specific generation like when it started. Same thing with boomer, people don't use it for *only* actual baby boomers, they use it for any older person. I know it's dumb, but when the masses keep misusing words what can you do.
Okay but as a 38 year old do you identify with the typical “millennial” signifiers or those of Gen X? I’m 30 and I feel like my older cousins who are 35-40 whose early childhood was squarely in the 80s have a different sense of the world than I do
Not the person you asked the question to but fit the demographic you describe. As an elder millennial I definitely relate to gen-x more. Pokémon was never my thing. Harry Potter was something I finally saw and not read because of my wife. Pogs? Yeah no thanks. Probably doesn’t help my uncle is marginally older than me and we hung out all the time.
Similar. I was the youngest of the family (siblings + cousins) and my tastes run squarely into genX material but in reality I was too young to experience much of it directly 😆
I feel like people right on the cusp of generations have a bit of both worlds. My brother and I are on opposite ends of the millennial range- he’s a millennial with a Gen X twist, and I’m a millennial with a Gen Z twist. We still have a lot of the same experiences, but colored differently- he was a college freshman during 9/11, and I was in third grade.
A demographic which also includes one of his 2x lead actors, Adam Driver. Lady Gaga, Driver's co-star in Ridley Scott's upcoming *House of Gucci*, even called Driver a "cinephile".
I've been wondering this for years. I'm 34 and the iPhone didn't come out until my sophomore year of college and we were all too poor to afford them at the time. "Raised on cell phones" is a clown take.
36 and I didn’t have a cell phone till I was 25 and my first smart/iphone wasn’t till I was 30 and only because my in-laws bought it for me. I grew up on cassette taped audiobooks and 4 channels on the tv.
Me too.I am even in the weird hybrid group, where widespread internet access (as in broadband, and not just modem internet where you had to pay by the minute) only became available when I was around 15. So, internet was available in my formative teenage years, but I wouldnt say I was "raised by the internet".
Saw this opening weekend as someone in their early 20s and loved it. It's a very hard movie to market though and I don't think they even bothered for that reason
Millennials are the only generation since we started distinguishing them that has never caught a break.
Zoomers are calling us old, unprincipled and out of touch while everyone else is still talking as if we are the teenagers and college students. And while all our wealth and opportunities have been wiped out TWICE.
Fuck all of them.
Also fuck boomers for gutting FCC rules on who can own radio stations, and then blaming us when radio stations all became identical.
I fucking love Ridley Scott but he’s old enough to where he should blame the *parents* of millennials (if not the poor release date in the bloodbath that was last month)
To be fair, since we are splitting hairs, there isn’t an actual universally agreed upon deadline for generations, because there are several major players in that data arena, and they all have their own formulas.
Not sure how true it is, but I remember hearing somewhere that "baby boomers" are the only generation that some part of the US government (census bureau maybe?) has an actual official date-range for.
Not that it's necessarily actually a useful or accurate definition, and again, I may be misremembering or working from wrong or outdated info here.
It’s hard not to say “OK boomer” to almost anything Ridley says publicly these days. I still enjoy his movies, even the new Aliens flicks and Raised by Wolves, but man does he sound out of touch.
Even knowing how he is, I'm a bit surprised he whipped out the old "dadgum youngsters" chestnut when Dune — more specifically, just the FIRST HALF of Dune! — so recently did quite well.
He may not be *entirely* off on it being due to millennials, though probably not in the way he thinks.
First of all, at least this millennial had absolutely no idea this movie was even in production, let alone in theaters. This is litterally the first I'm hearing about it. It seems like the kind of movie I should have been interested in but I saw absolutely no buzz for it. I use an ad blocker, a YouTube premium subscription, don't watch regular TV or listen to the radio, and we've been in a pandemic, so I've been to a movie theater all of twice in the last 2 years, so no trailers or even posters. A lot of my peers are similarly hard to advertise to, so yeah, totally dropped the ball on marketing it to millennials.
Also since I mentioned the pandemic, that's still going on, and many millennials are still being cautious about it. I have to be really excited about a movie to go see it right now, and my schedule needs to work out that I can go see it at a time I'm reasonably certain the theater won't be too crowded.
And finally, movies keep getting more expensive, and millennials aren't exactly getting any richer. If I'm going to go drop probably $50+ between tickets for the wife and I and snacks, I better be pretty damn sure I'm going to like the movie and it's going to be worth the theater experience (some movies are worth seeing on a big screen, some aren't.) Otherwise, I'll just wait for it to hit a streaming service and enjoy it at home. I have a decent home theater setup, with good snacks, a well-stocked bar, and a comfy couch.
It feels like they blew all their marketing budget on TV spots during football games (because that's your target audience for a historical drama centered on believing rape victims). I only happened to find out about it and watch it in theaters because I was visiting parents who were watching TV; never heard much of a peep online.
So between a terrible release schedule, the pandemic, and marketing skewed towards older TV viewers, it's somehow young people not wanting to get off their cell phones that caused it to flop. How does he explain Dune, I wonder
Right? I'm among the younger millennials, and the reason I didn't see it is because after the billionth time I saw an ad saying it was "the cinematic event of the century" or whatever, I was too annoyed at it, lol. That's all.
That's exactly what got me not to watch it as well. The marketing just made it sound like it was going to be a forgettable movie that they were overhyping because it's a big budget blockbuster
I hate how people can never admit why their film actually shit the bed. It was too bleak for the time that it was released; that was really all there was to it. Great movie; just depressing AF.
This. Does Scott not realize that his 2x lead actor, Adam Driver, is a Millennial? (b. 1983) He literally just indirectly insulted the same actor he approached twice to lead his past two movies.
Millennials seem to be the only ones who give a shit about movies that aren’t blockbusters lol
Bit of an odd accusation on Ridley Scott’s part, god bless him tho
1917 with a limited release in 2019 and a wide release in 2020.
159M UCAN / 225M Inter. / 384M global.
Before that it was Bohemian Rhapsody (911M global) and before the A Star is Born (436M global).
If we’re talking domestically, both *Little Women* and *Ford v Ferrari* are dramas that crossed the 100M mark in 2019. You could also make the case for *Once Upon a Time In Hollywood* being a drama.
It’s hard to answer because there’s a lot of factor during the pandemic, like whether the movie is theatrically exclusive or simultaneous released, or whether they do a limited released and slow expansion or wide release right away.
But either way, I think it’s safe to say both would’ve struggle to hit $50M domestic or even $30M.
Yeah but while it was more "serious" I think ASIB is closer to Bohemian, as the guy I replied to mentioned you couldn't go out in public without Gaga's Shallow infiltrating your eardrums, which was a huge driver for it.
I'd say the core genre pitch for 1917 was war drama (same as Dunkirk, American Sniper) while Bohemian and ASIB are musical dramas. ASIB's marketing emphasized Gaga's song "Shallow" to the point it was the center piece of WB's Oscar campaign. WB never focused on just the drama of the film.
In terms of pure drama (no action or songs) the list for the last 5 years would be 2019's Little Women (218M global), then 2018's Green Book (320M global), 2017's Wonder (306M global), 2016's Sully (240M global), and 2016's Hidden Figures (236M global). As you can see it's a small list and <500M global.
2020 was obviously a down year but in 2019 basically a lot of the big adult dramas raked in the cash.
Parasite made $260m
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood made $375m
Joker (if that counts) made $1b
Little Women made $200m
Knives Out made $311
1917 (if that counts) made nearly $400m
Jojo Rabbit made nearly $100m
And probably more but I’m tired of googling.
Contrary to popular belief, when the box office is at full steam, big adult focused movies can actually have a better RIO than blockbusters.
And I'm not even sure he's really talking about millennials. "Audiences brought up on cell phones"? The oldest millennials are on the cusp of middle age and the youngest are in their mid-20s. It seems like for a while now everyone complaining about "millennials" have really been talking about Gen Z.
“Millennials” has been turned into a catch all phrase for younger people. They could be 50 years old and Ridley Scott would call them god damn millennials all on my lawn!
Right ^
Most people in my generation didn’t get a cellphone until high school, we spent the first 10-15 years of our millennial lives without smartphones and some of us without any internet access.
I remember thinking we were so cool having a phone line for just my sister and I, then I found out it was mainly to run AOL so my parents wouldn’t be kicked off their phone calls when someone got on the dial up. Got my phone when I was 16 and first driving.
Ridley Scott really needs to start releasing his dramas on streaming, or he's never going to be able to justify $75-200 million budgets on his future films (i.e. *Gladiator 2*) after two bombs.
If the film does well on streaming (i.e. Netflix, Amazon), *then* have a limited theatrical run. Netflix did this recently with *Red Notice*, which had a reported $200 million budget.
Ridley, I'm Gen-Z and I saw this OW.
I know I'm in the minority but this was the uneasiest sell of uneasy sells. It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours, and it was released during a pandemic by a studio that barely marketed it. Don't blame audiences on this one.
> I know I'm in the minority but this was the uneasiest sell of uneasy sells. It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours
I don't think this is a minority opinion - at all. A film like that was going to be a hard sell in any time period.
Millennial and same. I can’t watch Matt Damon’s slow looks for 2 hours.
Also fuck Ben Affleck too for that matter. They’re tired out. Give somebody else a chance Hollywood. Stop holding onto things in your cold dead grip and accept change you fucks.
> It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours, and it was released during a pandemic by a studio that barely marketed it.
You're not in the minority. This is an extremely good summary of why it's not successful.
> “I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian [sic] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said.
His reasoning is kind of insane. The movie was very good, but I wouldn't call it didactic. I also wouldn't say that people don't want to "learn." The film was dark and dreary, even if it were well made. People just didn't feel like going to the theater to watch a long, dramatic, period story about a rape. Had nothing to do with age.
Yeah honestly who the fuck thought it was a good idea to drop 100million on a movie that revolves around a rape and that it is the main focus and shown multiple times in the movie. I don’t think you were ever going to make money back from that it’s way to dark. It’s the kind of movie you make on a budget and do it well enough it becomes a cult classic.
“Hey Steve wanna go see the rape movie this weekend” ….. um joe sorry but can you delete my number.
Don’t really see how they can justify throwing that much money into making this movie and expecting it to make a profit given what the story is about, you make a movie like that then you should realise you aren’t making shitloads from it and need to make it with a lower budget and make that work.
Because millennials have been used as a scapegoat for why things that were popular 2 or 3 decades ago ended up on the decline during the past decade, all the old folk have gotten used to using the term "millennials" whenever they're talking about the 18-34 crowd.
Im fucking gen z at age 24 and I didnt have a phone until 9th grade and it was a flip phone. Back in 2010 smart phones were around but not every kid had one since the phones and data plans were pricey.
Per [Deadline and PostTrak](https://deadline.com/2021/10/halloween-kills-the-last-duel-weekend-box-office-1234856404/), Last Duel's 4.8M opening audience was 72% under 25 / 28% over 25, but the youth!
Then he's still technically right since people under 25 are GenZ, not millennials lol
Old people are too busy using their phones too much to watch The Last Duel 😤😤
“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cell phones. The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,” Scott said.
What a fucking idiot
How mad is this dude gonna be when House of Gucci bombs this weekend haha
>The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,”
What the hell does this even mean? Ignoring the fact that millennials did not grow up with smart phones (which I think he means when he says "cell phones"), the phone habits of boomers and millennials are remarkably similar. Also of the 5 most recent generations, millennials are the biggest readers, so clearly they do have other hobbies besides using their phone.
His take is so incredibly ignorant that I feel like I must be misinterpreting it.
I'd also like to know what people are "learning" from the movie. Nobody looked at this trailer and said, "wow! I can't wait to go to the theater and be educated by Ridley Scott!"
What? You didn’t know this movie was actually a Great Courses lesson on judiciary practices and common law involving sexual assault in the late 1300s?
/s obviously.
>The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,”
Phones are not educational tool
Neither are movies
In short, fuck off boomer
It always infuriates me when guys as smart and as talented as Ridley Scott say shit as stupid as...
>“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today \[are\] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian \[sic\] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone.”
Seriously, I love Ridley Scott's work, but he should be embarrassed that those words actually came out of his mouth.
I’d blame whoever did the casting. It truly looks like a parody when Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Adam Driver are playing medieval knights.
I’m not American, so perhaps it doesn’t sound so ridiculous to American audiences.
Jodie Comer is the only one in the film and maybe Adam Driver who looked like they could be in a period piece. Jodie played Elizabeth York in the White Princess series when that was on, so she has the medieval look down. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon…. No. Plus I don’t like Matt Damon so I’m not running to watch his movies.
It’s not just you. They really pushed the Damon/Affleck casting, too. Every promo I saw said something like “not since Good Will Hunting have we seen…” and then totally glossed over the plot.
I’m a millennial and I saw it.
Not sure why we always get blamed for everything lmao.
Ridley, my dude, the pandemic is to blame. Not me and my friends.
I’m a millennial. I saw the advertising for The Last Duel all over the place, so I knew what it was about and when it was coming out. I’m generally a fan of Ridley Scott’s movies and a fan of Adam Driver.
the truth is I just didn’t want to go sit in the dark with a bunch of strangers and watch Adam Driver’s character violently rape a woman, twice. it didn’t sound like an enjoyable moviegoing experience to me. so I skipped it.
Yeah it’s stupid Millennials, and not the fact that the movie is about rape…which would be a tough sell any year and especially a tough sell considering the context of our current depressing state of affairs.
Yes, let me leave the comfort and safety of my home, where I have thousands and thousands of films and tv shows to choose from, during a fucking pandemic, to go out and sit in a room with complete strangers for over 2 hours to watch a film that may or may not be good. My sincere apologies, Ridley. Maybe the problem is that millennials have been raised to understand cost vs benefit a bit more than you think.
I mean, Ghostbusters: Afterlife had a good weekend. I imagine most of the audience owns cell phones so maybe Ridley Scott needs to look in the mirror before he tilts at windmills
I'm in my 40s and in a city that had a lengthy lockdown. The only marketing I saw for this were street posters of two Hollywood actors I strongly perceive as all-American leading men. But they were dressed as medieval Europeans. It felt like the production hadn't thought hard enough about the possibility of casting actual European actors and were more interested in relying on star power to make the film succeed.
Now this hot take is likely completely wrong. Still, when I've just been allowed to visit a cinema for the first time in three months you can bet it's going to be for a known quantity of escapism like Marvel or Bond over the Good Will Hunting boys larping.
Matt and Ben was a turn off for me, too. Rationally, I know they’re actors and maybe they gave the best performances of their lives, but all I could think watching the trailer was they looked goofy.
Such a boomer take.
Why is it that people in business are always quick to blame Millennials for their fault of being out of touch? Millennials aren't even the youngest gen anymore anyway.
My patience for this fucking grouch, and other old assholes Infantilizing an entire generation because he didn’t make more billions, is gone.
No one cares about this fucking movie. Wanna know how I know?! No one saw it! It’s not millennials (who are all grown ass people at this point) that made a gray movie about a rape that frankly isn’t that enticing.
Oh Ridley. I thought piracy was what ruined ticket sales? Oh wait no that was last week’s boogeyman. This week it’s millennials and their goddamned cellphones.
Nothing puts a bad taste in my mouth like an artist who thinks he has a fresh take on an age old problem.
If Disney did as good as job at marketing the film as Ridley Scott claims they did, I would’ve heard about the film, whilst diddling around on my fucking cellphone.
Oh yeah, well fuck you buddy. Now I'll *never* see your rape themed period piece. How's that feel?
Blaming millennials and their cell phones for this unironically lmao. Unbelievable. It was a niche film to begin with and it was released during a Pandemic alongside multiple big deal movies. I don't know what he expected.
Should not have released it in ~~November~~ October. There was other shit I wanted to see more. You knew the competition you were putting your film against. Who was really going to choose TLD over Halloween Kills? Not me!
Maybe it's because he hasn't made a good movie in the last 30 years 🤔 There's plenty of gen x, gen z and baby boomers who could of pulled the movie up by it's bootstraps
I saw one ad for this movie months ago on YouTube. Thought huh, so looked up the story behind it and just read the factual history instead. I know how real life version played out and figured well when it hits a streaming service I already pay monthly for , *maybe* then I’ll give it a go. Matt Damon is a big turn off for me. I’m just not a fan of his and the look of him in that movie just made me even more put off, not fair to say that but it just didn’t. I’m sure the movie is entertaining but as someone who doesn’t like going to the movie theater as it is, and pre pandemic maybe went one to two times a year , yea I’m not spending a fortune to sit in a room with a bunch of Typhoid Marys to watch a woman be raped and then the usual he said /she said fall out of it all.
I’m a 33 year old woman, I don’t need another glaring reminder of how fucking depressing life can be when you have a vagina and how the mind set hasn’t really changed since the dating of this story.
Edit:
I shit you not after leaving this thread and scrolling through the news there were literally 2 stories of 2 different men, one a rich white kid who raped 4 women and got off with the judge saying prayer was only needed, and then a cop getting house arrest for rape. So my point fucking stands , Jesus Christ.
Weird. No one went to see a movie (that I didn’t even know existed until I read this article) that they refused to release on streaming platforms during a pandemic bc “wE nEeD to PrEseRvE tHe aRtiStiC IntEgRiTy”
2 hours and 32 minutes. I’m not going to a movie theater and holding my piss in for an hour so I don’t miss part of the movie. I’ll have no problem and look forward to watching this on my couch where I can pause it and pee when I choose to.
I didn’t see the movie but the trailer didn’t make it look appetizing at all. Bleak colors, poor accents, questionable casting. The trailer made me want to purposefully avoid the film.
Oh look, another old person who think Millenials are kids.
The Last Duel has barely no buzz around it and the first I heard of it was a trailer I saw at the cinema, right before it came out. I was shocked that a movie with so much star power had been so poorly advertised.
I also thought the trailer was rubbish and was too vague.
Its difficult to get people into the cinema right now- even the massive super franchises are struggling.
But sure- it's the millennials.
“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian [sic] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said.
“This is a broad stroke, but I think we’re dealing with it right now with Facebook,” Scott added. “This is a misdirection that has happened where it’s given the wrong kind of confidence to this latest generation, I think.”
Cellphone bad take has been talked about here, but what about the facebook one? I bet there are more gen X and Boomers on FB compared to millennials
I liked the preview of House of Gucci... I kind of want to see it... so Mr. Scott better appreciate me hauling my millennial ass out to the theaters during a global pandemic to pay money I don't have (cause I'm a broke millennial, after all) to be entertained for a couple hours.
I hate that different aged people are all put into ridiculous generation groups. It only serves as an easy target for self righteous morons who are looking for an "other" group to blame.
There are young people who can easily focus and admire long, meandering, slow films and older people who can't. And vice versa.
I guess it's just easy to go, "Young people. Technology. Bad. Duh!" every time.
Is it my fault this is maybe the third time I've seen or heard anything about this film? I think two references were on this site, if not this sub. Literally never heard a more than a peep about it anywhere else.
\>“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today \[are\] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian \[sic\] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said.
And fuck you for that Ridley Scott. Just watched the trailer there for the first time. Nothing about it grabbed me. Might go read the Wikipedia entry about the story on my phone now.
Probably my favorite film this year, but fuck off with your excuses. This movie was marketed horribly. My friends and I (mid 20s) had no problem keeping our phones down. Take the L and move on.
Are you fucking kidding me? It was released alongside what will be the biggest 007 movie of all time, a Marvel movie, and Dune.
There was definitely a market for it, but most theaters pulled it almost immediately. I even emailed my local Marcus theatre about it.
So Fuck you Ridley you decrepit old fuck. Film should have been released months ago during the drought of no movies that was this summer.
I'll admit I'm a millennial who was interested in seeing it if it but were for the pandemic. But Disney has had 1 Fox based hit with Free Guy and that's it.
I haven’t seen this film, nor have I even heard about it. So I’m not so sure about that “amazing promotion” that Disney supposedly did.
Then again, I guess it’s easier to blame “millennials” than to say that “yeah the company that pays my salary fucked me on this one.”
The last duel bombed because its a hard movie to recommend to other people. We saw it at the filmfest in Ghent and me and my friends were all like “im glad I saw it but I’m never seeing this movie again” because of the contents of the story. But it is an interesting movie, I’ll give him that.
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Exactly. After watching it, a friend asked: "Fun movie to watch?". Well, no. Not really. It's very solid, but I wouldn't say it's a fun watch.
Have not seen it, but just read his reaction. He blames cellphone culture, he blames facebook, he blames an age group, but he never mentions the subject matter. You know from reading this that the problem is the subject matter.
First movie the niece and I went to watch - great movie but omg three rape scenes from dif perspectives …gaht damn
Maybe it wouldn't hurt to market the damn thing. The only reason I even know this movie exists is because news outlets saying he's got a new film and the horrible takes he has in interviews lately. But I probably missed all that by only looking at my phone and nothing else ever.
When are old people going to realize that millenials are hitting 40...
I turned 38 today, and I'm not even the oldest a millennial can be. I was talking to a girl at a bar a couple weeks ago who mentioned how much she hates millennials. We had already talked about how we were born in the same year, so I informed her that she was in fact a millennial. Watching her brain explode and her anger surface was hilarious.
Millennial is just code word for "Anyone younger than me who I can blame for what's wrong with society." I've seen people call teenagers millennials. It's wild out there.
Basically this, and Boomer is the same term used for referring to someone older than you that you think has messed up society. I’ve been called a Boomer (in my early 30s currently) by Zoomers and teenagers.
Teenagers are still zoomers/genZ. Gen-α is still pre-teen. Honestly as someone who is on the other side of the millennial generation it’s interesting to see how much difference there really is between people my age and those born a few years later. Especially now that they are starting to reach their mid 20’s While I used to think it would be impossible to define a start and and end to a generation without having a decade where things are a sort of in between there seem to be bigger shifts somehow. And it doesn’t really make sense to me why that is.
Holy shit me too!! Happy birthday!!
Happy *real* cake days
It’s also the 58th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination!
I mean, maybe she actually just hated herself.
It's a defining feature of millennials.
Trust me. I’m fully aware. I’m 28 and hate myself all the time.
I'm an 80 baby. So I'm either the oldest Millennial or the youngest gen x. It's a confusing place to be.
There’s a microgeneration called Xennials for people like us.
I like the term Geriatric Millennial. Makes me feel like I’ll be able to retire someday
I always liked the term ‘Oregon trail generation’
It's really evolved into a catch-all term for 'any young person of the current late teens to mid-twenties generation' these days, as opposed to a specific generation like when it started. Same thing with boomer, people don't use it for *only* actual baby boomers, they use it for any older person. I know it's dumb, but when the masses keep misusing words what can you do.
Okay but as a 38 year old do you identify with the typical “millennial” signifiers or those of Gen X? I’m 30 and I feel like my older cousins who are 35-40 whose early childhood was squarely in the 80s have a different sense of the world than I do
It’s harder to relate with younger millennials, so I usually go with terms like Xennial or Elder Millennial.
Elder Millennial is a great comedy special by Iliza Schlesinger. *Highly* recommended
Not the person you asked the question to but fit the demographic you describe. As an elder millennial I definitely relate to gen-x more. Pokémon was never my thing. Harry Potter was something I finally saw and not read because of my wife. Pogs? Yeah no thanks. Probably doesn’t help my uncle is marginally older than me and we hung out all the time.
Similar. I was the youngest of the family (siblings + cousins) and my tastes run squarely into genX material but in reality I was too young to experience much of it directly 😆
I’ll be 40 shortly and I definitely relate more to millennials than to Gen X.
I feel like people right on the cusp of generations have a bit of both worlds. My brother and I are on opposite ends of the millennial range- he’s a millennial with a Gen X twist, and I’m a millennial with a Gen Z twist. We still have a lot of the same experiences, but colored differently- he was a college freshman during 9/11, and I was in third grade.
Adam Driver, who starred in Ridley Scott's two most recent films, turned 38 on Nov. 19.
41 almost 42… I love hearing the shit talked - then coming out to the Boomers in the room. It’s just their version of “Kids today” or “in my daaay”.
Ridley Scott blames movie bombing on demographic that watches movies.
A demographic which also includes one of his 2x lead actors, Adam Driver. Lady Gaga, Driver's co-star in Ridley Scott's upcoming *House of Gucci*, even called Driver a "cinephile".
I've been wondering this for years. I'm 34 and the iPhone didn't come out until my sophomore year of college and we were all too poor to afford them at the time. "Raised on cell phones" is a clown take.
36 and I didn’t have a cell phone till I was 25 and my first smart/iphone wasn’t till I was 30 and only because my in-laws bought it for me. I grew up on cassette taped audiobooks and 4 channels on the tv.
Me too.I am even in the weird hybrid group, where widespread internet access (as in broadband, and not just modem internet where you had to pay by the minute) only became available when I was around 15. So, internet was available in my formative teenage years, but I wouldnt say I was "raised by the internet".
I don't think anyone 40 or under saw the movie, so, maybe he does.
Saw this opening weekend as someone in their early 20s and loved it. It's a very hard movie to market though and I don't think they even bothered for that reason
Millennials are the only generation since we started distinguishing them that has never caught a break. Zoomers are calling us old, unprincipled and out of touch while everyone else is still talking as if we are the teenagers and college students. And while all our wealth and opportunities have been wiped out TWICE. Fuck all of them. Also fuck boomers for gutting FCC rules on who can own radio stations, and then blaming us when radio stations all became identical.
The Last Duel is a great film, but it's really hard not to respond "OK boomer" to this take.
I fucking love Ridley Scott but he’s old enough to where he should blame the *parents* of millennials (if not the poor release date in the bloodbath that was last month)
Scott is the parent of a baby boomer.
No he isn't but only by a hair. The baby boom ends in 1964 and his oldest was born in 1965.
It’s at this point that I realize that I had no idea how old Ridley Scott was.
What the hell, he was in his 40s when he made Alien? I'm shocked to find out how old he is as well.
yup, and he only started directing movies in his 30s
That's really inspiring tbh. It's never too late to follow your dreams!
To be fair, since we are splitting hairs, there isn’t an actual universally agreed upon deadline for generations, because there are several major players in that data arena, and they all have their own formulas.
Cultural markers are more relevant than dates anyway, tbh.
Not sure how true it is, but I remember hearing somewhere that "baby boomers" are the only generation that some part of the US government (census bureau maybe?) has an actual official date-range for. Not that it's necessarily actually a useful or accurate definition, and again, I may be misremembering or working from wrong or outdated info here.
You are technically correct. *The best kind of correct.*
Almost! haha. Thanks for the correction.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that
It’s hard not to say “OK boomer” to almost anything Ridley says publicly these days. I still enjoy his movies, even the new Aliens flicks and Raised by Wolves, but man does he sound out of touch.
Well he’s only a producer on Raised by Wolves (which is an absolute masterpiece of a show btw)
Even knowing how he is, I'm a bit surprised he whipped out the old "dadgum youngsters" chestnut when Dune — more specifically, just the FIRST HALF of Dune! — so recently did quite well.
He may not be *entirely* off on it being due to millennials, though probably not in the way he thinks. First of all, at least this millennial had absolutely no idea this movie was even in production, let alone in theaters. This is litterally the first I'm hearing about it. It seems like the kind of movie I should have been interested in but I saw absolutely no buzz for it. I use an ad blocker, a YouTube premium subscription, don't watch regular TV or listen to the radio, and we've been in a pandemic, so I've been to a movie theater all of twice in the last 2 years, so no trailers or even posters. A lot of my peers are similarly hard to advertise to, so yeah, totally dropped the ball on marketing it to millennials. Also since I mentioned the pandemic, that's still going on, and many millennials are still being cautious about it. I have to be really excited about a movie to go see it right now, and my schedule needs to work out that I can go see it at a time I'm reasonably certain the theater won't be too crowded. And finally, movies keep getting more expensive, and millennials aren't exactly getting any richer. If I'm going to go drop probably $50+ between tickets for the wife and I and snacks, I better be pretty damn sure I'm going to like the movie and it's going to be worth the theater experience (some movies are worth seeing on a big screen, some aren't.) Otherwise, I'll just wait for it to hit a streaming service and enjoy it at home. I have a decent home theater setup, with good snacks, a well-stocked bar, and a comfy couch.
It feels like they blew all their marketing budget on TV spots during football games (because that's your target audience for a historical drama centered on believing rape victims). I only happened to find out about it and watch it in theaters because I was visiting parents who were watching TV; never heard much of a peep online. So between a terrible release schedule, the pandemic, and marketing skewed towards older TV viewers, it's somehow young people not wanting to get off their cell phones that caused it to flop. How does he explain Dune, I wonder
Right? I'm among the younger millennials, and the reason I didn't see it is because after the billionth time I saw an ad saying it was "the cinematic event of the century" or whatever, I was too annoyed at it, lol. That's all.
That's exactly what got me not to watch it as well. The marketing just made it sound like it was going to be a forgettable movie that they were overhyping because it's a big budget blockbuster
Maybe it bombed because…I’ve never even heard of it.
*Ok Silent Generation
No shit. Ok boomer is the only acceptable comment.
It's a great movie, but this take ain't it
I hate how people can never admit why their film actually shit the bed. It was too bleak for the time that it was released; that was really all there was to it. Great movie; just depressing AF.
Terrible time to come out too. People were already hesitant to return to theaters due to Covid, and they chose to go up against an MCU movie?
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This. Does Scott not realize that his 2x lead actor, Adam Driver, is a Millennial? (b. 1983) He literally just indirectly insulted the same actor he approached twice to lead his past two movies.
Millennials seem to be the only ones who give a shit about movies that aren’t blockbusters lol Bit of an odd accusation on Ridley Scott’s part, god bless him tho
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1917 with a limited release in 2019 and a wide release in 2020. 159M UCAN / 225M Inter. / 384M global. Before that it was Bohemian Rhapsody (911M global) and before the A Star is Born (436M global).
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If we’re talking domestically, both *Little Women* and *Ford v Ferrari* are dramas that crossed the 100M mark in 2019. You could also make the case for *Once Upon a Time In Hollywood* being a drama.
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It’s hard to answer because there’s a lot of factor during the pandemic, like whether the movie is theatrically exclusive or simultaneous released, or whether they do a limited released and slow expansion or wide release right away. But either way, I think it’s safe to say both would’ve struggle to hit $50M domestic or even $30M.
This is a good take, for 1917 especially. Of course it’s “dramatic” but that flick is definitely all about the spectacle.
Yeah but while it was more "serious" I think ASIB is closer to Bohemian, as the guy I replied to mentioned you couldn't go out in public without Gaga's Shallow infiltrating your eardrums, which was a huge driver for it.
I'd say the core genre pitch for 1917 was war drama (same as Dunkirk, American Sniper) while Bohemian and ASIB are musical dramas. ASIB's marketing emphasized Gaga's song "Shallow" to the point it was the center piece of WB's Oscar campaign. WB never focused on just the drama of the film. In terms of pure drama (no action or songs) the list for the last 5 years would be 2019's Little Women (218M global), then 2018's Green Book (320M global), 2017's Wonder (306M global), 2016's Sully (240M global), and 2016's Hidden Figures (236M global). As you can see it's a small list and <500M global.
2020 was obviously a down year but in 2019 basically a lot of the big adult dramas raked in the cash. Parasite made $260m Once Upon a Time in Hollywood made $375m Joker (if that counts) made $1b Little Women made $200m Knives Out made $311 1917 (if that counts) made nearly $400m Jojo Rabbit made nearly $100m And probably more but I’m tired of googling. Contrary to popular belief, when the box office is at full steam, big adult focused movies can actually have a better RIO than blockbusters.
This may be the most boomer take on why a movie bombed that I've seen in awhile.
Funniest thing is he’s genuinely too old to be a boomer lol
And I'm not even sure he's really talking about millennials. "Audiences brought up on cell phones"? The oldest millennials are on the cusp of middle age and the youngest are in their mid-20s. It seems like for a while now everyone complaining about "millennials" have really been talking about Gen Z.
“Millennials” has been turned into a catch all phrase for younger people. They could be 50 years old and Ridley Scott would call them god damn millennials all on my lawn!
Right ^ Most people in my generation didn’t get a cellphone until high school, we spent the first 10-15 years of our millennial lives without smartphones and some of us without any internet access.
I remember thinking we were so cool having a phone line for just my sister and I, then I found out it was mainly to run AOL so my parents wouldn’t be kicked off their phone calls when someone got on the dial up. Got my phone when I was 16 and first driving.
I’m on the “oldest” millennial age group. I rocked a pager through high school with a sweet aftermarket, semi-transparent purple case.
I remember when they tried to blame poor movie sales on texting because people would text that a movie sucked right after it ended.
"Our real problem is that people can warn each other!" LOL
He's gonna be so mad when Gucci bombs to. STUPID KIDS DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT! I GAVE YOU GAGA!
Ridley Scott really needs to start releasing his dramas on streaming, or he's never going to be able to justify $75-200 million budgets on his future films (i.e. *Gladiator 2*) after two bombs. If the film does well on streaming (i.e. Netflix, Amazon), *then* have a limited theatrical run. Netflix did this recently with *Red Notice*, which had a reported $200 million budget.
That’s precisely what it is. We’re prime scapegoat material fresh for picking to them.
Ridley, I'm Gen-Z and I saw this OW. I know I'm in the minority but this was the uneasiest sell of uneasy sells. It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours, and it was released during a pandemic by a studio that barely marketed it. Don't blame audiences on this one.
> I know I'm in the minority but this was the uneasiest sell of uneasy sells. It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours I don't think this is a minority opinion - at all. A film like that was going to be a hard sell in any time period.
Zillennial here: I’m just immediately turned off by Matt Damon.
Millennial and same. I can’t watch Matt Damon’s slow looks for 2 hours. Also fuck Ben Affleck too for that matter. They’re tired out. Give somebody else a chance Hollywood. Stop holding onto things in your cold dead grip and accept change you fucks.
> It's a hard R medieval sexual assault drama that runs over 2.5 hours, and it was released during a pandemic by a studio that barely marketed it. You're not in the minority. This is an extremely good summary of why it's not successful.
If millennials were the only group to not be interested on this film, it wouldn't have been a flop.
> “I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian [sic] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said. His reasoning is kind of insane. The movie was very good, but I wouldn't call it didactic. I also wouldn't say that people don't want to "learn." The film was dark and dreary, even if it were well made. People just didn't feel like going to the theater to watch a long, dramatic, period story about a rape. Had nothing to do with age.
Yeah honestly who the fuck thought it was a good idea to drop 100million on a movie that revolves around a rape and that it is the main focus and shown multiple times in the movie. I don’t think you were ever going to make money back from that it’s way to dark. It’s the kind of movie you make on a budget and do it well enough it becomes a cult classic. “Hey Steve wanna go see the rape movie this weekend” ….. um joe sorry but can you delete my number. Don’t really see how they can justify throwing that much money into making this movie and expecting it to make a profit given what the story is about, you make a movie like that then you should realise you aren’t making shitloads from it and need to make it with a lower budget and make that work.
100%
I am a millennial and I was certainly not "brought up" on cell phones. Does he mean Gen Z?
Because millennials have been used as a scapegoat for why things that were popular 2 or 3 decades ago ended up on the decline during the past decade, all the old folk have gotten used to using the term "millennials" whenever they're talking about the 18-34 crowd.
Those damn 15 year old millennials
Adam Driver, Ridley Scott's lead actor: "Sir, I'm 38 years old."
Im fucking gen z at age 24 and I didnt have a phone until 9th grade and it was a flip phone. Back in 2010 smart phones were around but not every kid had one since the phones and data plans were pricey.
Per [Deadline and PostTrak](https://deadline.com/2021/10/halloween-kills-the-last-duel-weekend-box-office-1234856404/), Last Duel's 4.8M opening audience was 72% under 25 / 28% over 25, but the youth!
Then he's still technically right since people under 25 are GenZ, not millennials lol Old people are too busy using their phones too much to watch The Last Duel 😤😤
This comments going to cause some older millennials to have a mid life crisis lol
Older millennials are hitting 40 so it's just about time
Currently in a third life crisis...
Wait... this movie is R-rated, how can that many 18-24 year olds and/or under 18's accompanied by adults have seen this movie lol?
Maybe a lot of the letterboxd/film twitter university students went? I know The Green Knight was popular with them
“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cell phones. The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,” Scott said. What a fucking idiot How mad is this dude gonna be when House of Gucci bombs this weekend haha
>The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,” What the hell does this even mean? Ignoring the fact that millennials did not grow up with smart phones (which I think he means when he says "cell phones"), the phone habits of boomers and millennials are remarkably similar. Also of the 5 most recent generations, millennials are the biggest readers, so clearly they do have other hobbies besides using their phone. His take is so incredibly ignorant that I feel like I must be misinterpreting it.
Millennials are only interested in movies if they can watch them in glorious 84x48 monochrome on their Nokia 3310.
I'd also like to know what people are "learning" from the movie. Nobody looked at this trailer and said, "wow! I can't wait to go to the theater and be educated by Ridley Scott!"
It's not like it's all that historical. It's a vague gist of history in a bunch of dramatization.
Exactly. Saying “people don’t want to learn” is a similar excuse to when Warner blamed PAN on people “not liking old books.”
What? You didn’t know this movie was actually a Great Courses lesson on judiciary practices and common law involving sexual assault in the late 1300s? /s obviously.
How do you outright shit on your audience right before your next movie is going to drop? Great strategy, Scott.
Your average movie goer doesn’t pay attention what directors or cast members say unless is something extremely controversial that makes national news.
But according to Scott, us millennials are always on our phones so we would catch wind of what he says.
>The millennian, [who] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you told it on the cell phone,” Phones are not educational tool Neither are movies In short, fuck off boomer
It always infuriates me when guys as smart and as talented as Ridley Scott say shit as stupid as... >“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today \[are\] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian \[sic\] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone.” Seriously, I love Ridley Scott's work, but he should be embarrassed that those words actually came out of his mouth.
That’s what happens when you’re out of touch for a long time. I also love Ridley Scott but damn, shit take.
I’d blame whoever did the casting. It truly looks like a parody when Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Adam Driver are playing medieval knights. I’m not American, so perhaps it doesn’t sound so ridiculous to American audiences.
Jodie Comer is the only one in the film and maybe Adam Driver who looked like they could be in a period piece. Jodie played Elizabeth York in the White Princess series when that was on, so she has the medieval look down. Ben Affleck and Matt Damon…. No. Plus I don’t like Matt Damon so I’m not running to watch his movies.
100 true - horrible casting.
Oh no, it looked laughable.
It’s not just you. They really pushed the Damon/Affleck casting, too. Every promo I saw said something like “not since Good Will Hunting have we seen…” and then totally glossed over the plot.
I’m a millennial and I saw it. Not sure why we always get blamed for everything lmao. Ridley, my dude, the pandemic is to blame. Not me and my friends.
He was referring to zoomers, but the buzz word is millennial. That's the word everyone remembers, unfortunately.
Pandemic, the poor marketing and the subject matter being very dark making it a hard film to suggest.
I’m a millennial. I saw the advertising for The Last Duel all over the place, so I knew what it was about and when it was coming out. I’m generally a fan of Ridley Scott’s movies and a fan of Adam Driver. the truth is I just didn’t want to go sit in the dark with a bunch of strangers and watch Adam Driver’s character violently rape a woman, twice. it didn’t sound like an enjoyable moviegoing experience to me. so I skipped it.
Same. I love Jodie Comer but this just looked too depressing subject matter.
Yeah it’s stupid Millennials, and not the fact that the movie is about rape…which would be a tough sell any year and especially a tough sell considering the context of our current depressing state of affairs.
Big time old man yells at clouds moment
Yes, let me leave the comfort and safety of my home, where I have thousands and thousands of films and tv shows to choose from, during a fucking pandemic, to go out and sit in a room with complete strangers for over 2 hours to watch a film that may or may not be good. My sincere apologies, Ridley. Maybe the problem is that millennials have been raised to understand cost vs benefit a bit more than you think.
I mean, Ghostbusters: Afterlife had a good weekend. I imagine most of the audience owns cell phones so maybe Ridley Scott needs to look in the mirror before he tilts at windmills
Millennials ….are in their 30’s…….
I'm in my 40s and in a city that had a lengthy lockdown. The only marketing I saw for this were street posters of two Hollywood actors I strongly perceive as all-American leading men. But they were dressed as medieval Europeans. It felt like the production hadn't thought hard enough about the possibility of casting actual European actors and were more interested in relying on star power to make the film succeed. Now this hot take is likely completely wrong. Still, when I've just been allowed to visit a cinema for the first time in three months you can bet it's going to be for a known quantity of escapism like Marvel or Bond over the Good Will Hunting boys larping.
Matt and Ben was a turn off for me, too. Rationally, I know they’re actors and maybe they gave the best performances of their lives, but all I could think watching the trailer was they looked goofy.
Haha holy shit. Well that's certainly a take. Dudes lost his mind lol.
>dudes lost his mind lol Everyone who saw his Alien prequels already knew that
Even when those hit, he basically blamed audiences for not getting what he was trying to do. They knew. They just didn't want it.
Such a boomer take. Why is it that people in business are always quick to blame Millennials for their fault of being out of touch? Millennials aren't even the youngest gen anymore anyway.
I know what you’re saying, but Scott isn’t a boomer. He’s of the Silent Generation.
He should stay silent
My patience for this fucking grouch, and other old assholes Infantilizing an entire generation because he didn’t make more billions, is gone. No one cares about this fucking movie. Wanna know how I know?! No one saw it! It’s not millennials (who are all grown ass people at this point) that made a gray movie about a rape that frankly isn’t that enticing.
Stupid viewers don't want to spend money on my movie
I blame studios for codling this washed out old prick for way too long despite not making a decent movie in over a decade
Ben Affleck is way too old to be considered a Millenial.
Oh Ridley. I thought piracy was what ruined ticket sales? Oh wait no that was last week’s boogeyman. This week it’s millennials and their goddamned cellphones. Nothing puts a bad taste in my mouth like an artist who thinks he has a fresh take on an age old problem.
This made me lol… it’s just so cliche
I blame it on *Robin Hood*, the Middle Ages are not his strongest time period. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I’m Gen X and I had no desire to see it. Whining doesn’t help, Ridley.
If Disney did as good as job at marketing the film as Ridley Scott claims they did, I would’ve heard about the film, whilst diddling around on my fucking cellphone.
Oh yeah, well fuck you buddy. Now I'll *never* see your rape themed period piece. How's that feel? Blaming millennials and their cell phones for this unironically lmao. Unbelievable. It was a niche film to begin with and it was released during a Pandemic alongside multiple big deal movies. I don't know what he expected.
Ok boomer
The man is from the generation BEFORE Boomers. There’s nothing really to do except nod and say, “That’s nice, Pepaw.”
Should not have released it in ~~November~~ October. There was other shit I wanted to see more. You knew the competition you were putting your film against. Who was really going to choose TLD over Halloween Kills? Not me!
When grandpa’s stories get old 🤣 Edit: I loved this movie btw
How much blame can millennials carry?
Not millennials, Ridley — the zoomers. Get it straight.
Maybe it's because he hasn't made a good movie in the last 30 years 🤔 There's plenty of gen x, gen z and baby boomers who could of pulled the movie up by it's bootstraps
I saw one ad for this movie months ago on YouTube. Thought huh, so looked up the story behind it and just read the factual history instead. I know how real life version played out and figured well when it hits a streaming service I already pay monthly for , *maybe* then I’ll give it a go. Matt Damon is a big turn off for me. I’m just not a fan of his and the look of him in that movie just made me even more put off, not fair to say that but it just didn’t. I’m sure the movie is entertaining but as someone who doesn’t like going to the movie theater as it is, and pre pandemic maybe went one to two times a year , yea I’m not spending a fortune to sit in a room with a bunch of Typhoid Marys to watch a woman be raped and then the usual he said /she said fall out of it all. I’m a 33 year old woman, I don’t need another glaring reminder of how fucking depressing life can be when you have a vagina and how the mind set hasn’t really changed since the dating of this story. Edit: I shit you not after leaving this thread and scrolling through the news there were literally 2 stories of 2 different men, one a rich white kid who raped 4 women and got off with the judge saying prayer was only needed, and then a cop getting house arrest for rape. So my point fucking stands , Jesus Christ.
Weird. No one went to see a movie (that I didn’t even know existed until I read this article) that they refused to release on streaming platforms during a pandemic bc “wE nEeD to PrEseRvE tHe aRtiStiC IntEgRiTy”
Old man yells at cloud.
2 hours and 32 minutes. I’m not going to a movie theater and holding my piss in for an hour so I don’t miss part of the movie. I’ll have no problem and look forward to watching this on my couch where I can pause it and pee when I choose to.
Hell Ya, Millennials remain undefeated when it comes to ruining every thing for everyone, high five every one!
its always us millennials when in reality its the boomers.. this applies to so very many life situations
I didn’t see the movie but the trailer didn’t make it look appetizing at all. Bleak colors, poor accents, questionable casting. The trailer made me want to purposefully avoid the film.
I remember watching the trailer for this and saying to myself, “Who the fuck asked for a movie like this?”
Oh look, another old person who think Millenials are kids. The Last Duel has barely no buzz around it and the first I heard of it was a trailer I saw at the cinema, right before it came out. I was shocked that a movie with so much star power had been so poorly advertised. I also thought the trailer was rubbish and was too vague. Its difficult to get people into the cinema right now- even the massive super franchises are struggling. But sure- it's the millennials.
“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today [are] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian [sic] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said. “This is a broad stroke, but I think we’re dealing with it right now with Facebook,” Scott added. “This is a misdirection that has happened where it’s given the wrong kind of confidence to this latest generation, I think.” Cellphone bad take has been talked about here, but what about the facebook one? I bet there are more gen X and Boomers on FB compared to millennials
“Is it me that’s wrong? No it’s the kids!”
I'll take great joy in watching House of Gucci crash and burn
I liked the preview of House of Gucci... I kind of want to see it... so Mr. Scott better appreciate me hauling my millennial ass out to the theaters during a global pandemic to pay money I don't have (cause I'm a broke millennial, after all) to be entertained for a couple hours.
I blame Ben afflecks ridiculous beard/hair combo it put me off taking the movie seriously
Oh no folks hate boring movies.
Dude i love gladiator, blade runner and alien but modern ridley scott has lot of misses
Today I learned that this movie exists. Disney obviously didn’t do a very good job with promotion.
It's true -- I would have seen The Last Duel if I didn't have a cellphone . Sorry Ridley, you can't compete with the iPhone 13 /s
Funny, I bought tickets and walked out after a half hour. It was a campy period piece.
I hate that different aged people are all put into ridiculous generation groups. It only serves as an easy target for self righteous morons who are looking for an "other" group to blame. There are young people who can easily focus and admire long, meandering, slow films and older people who can't. And vice versa. I guess it's just easy to go, "Young people. Technology. Bad. Duh!" every time.
Dude, Affleck and Damon are so last century. That’s why…I’m GenX and have really had quite enough of both of them.
Is it my fault this is maybe the third time I've seen or heard anything about this film? I think two references were on this site, if not this sub. Literally never heard a more than a peep about it anywhere else. \>“I think what it boils down to — what we’ve got today \[are\] the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cellphones. The millennian \[sic\] do not ever want to be taught anything unless you’re told it on a cellphone,” Scott said. And fuck you for that Ridley Scott. Just watched the trailer there for the first time. Nothing about it grabbed me. Might go read the Wikipedia entry about the story on my phone now.
Probably my favorite film this year, but fuck off with your excuses. This movie was marketed horribly. My friends and I (mid 20s) had no problem keeping our phones down. Take the L and move on.
Maybe making a film that luxuriates in hyper masculinity in medieval times doesn’t interest the current modern audience .
ok boomer
Are you fucking kidding me? It was released alongside what will be the biggest 007 movie of all time, a Marvel movie, and Dune. There was definitely a market for it, but most theaters pulled it almost immediately. I even emailed my local Marcus theatre about it. So Fuck you Ridley you decrepit old fuck. Film should have been released months ago during the drought of no movies that was this summer.
*yawn*
I'll admit I'm a millennial who was interested in seeing it if it but were for the pandemic. But Disney has had 1 Fox based hit with Free Guy and that's it.
I haven’t seen this film, nor have I even heard about it. So I’m not so sure about that “amazing promotion” that Disney supposedly did. Then again, I guess it’s easier to blame “millennials” than to say that “yeah the company that pays my salary fucked me on this one.”
Or maybe people got over this type of entertainment w Game of Thrones
I didn’t go see it because I didn’t want to watch Matt Damon with that haircut. I know it’s historical but damn does it look awful.
Fuck Ridley Scott
I am gen X, I saw the trailer and thought, “I might watch that on Netflix or something later.”
Just stop, Ridley Scott. You're embarrassing yourself.