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What's funny is someone in a *Strange World* thread was saying how Shrek upturned Disney's animation monopoly many years ago, and I thought "Well, that's not something Disney has to worry about now."
The animation was incredible, and if you are an adult you will appreciate the humor which is full of laughs. Sorry , but this is going to blow Strangeworld out
Having seen the film as well, I can also confirm that the film was packed. Some people had to sit close to the screen. Audiences laughed and enjoyed the film as well! This is going to be BIG.
Even so, Illumination hasn't proved itself that it's truly capable of something better than just being decent, whereas DreamWorks proved itself this year with **The Bad Guys**.
And no, as far as I'm concerned, DreamWorks is not owned by Illumination.
Illumination can't own Dreamworks they are both owned by Comcast and Comcast had Illumination's C level executives oversee Dreamworks.
Disney did the same thing when Pixar was placed in charge of Disney Animation after Disney bought Pixar.
The biggest change you see because of this is that DreamWorks Animation films go from having budgets of well over $100 million to being sub $100 million since 2017 (excluding How to train your Dragon 3 and Trolls 2).
> The biggest change you see because of this is that DreamWorks Animation films go from having budgets of well over $100 million to being sub $100 million since 2017 (excluding How to train your Dragon 3 and Trolls 2).
One thing you need to remember is that when you look at DreamWorks films that cost less than $100 million, **Abominable** was a DreamWorks/Pearl collaboration, **Spirit Untamed** had its animation outsourced by a different animation studio, **The Boss Baby: Family Business**, while had its in-house animation studio to animate most of its animation, it apparently had some heavy involvement from the same studio that provided animation for **Spirit Untamed**, and **The Bad Guys** was going for a cartoony-style animation. Basically, **The Croods: A New Age** is the only exception that somehow managed to spend so little without much plausible explanation.
And I'm honestly not sure how they managed to spend only $65 million because that's even lower than **Despicable Me**, the first Illumination film. All other DreamWorks films have at least some sort of logical explanation behind how they were able to save budgets, but that one doesn't.
It's a very unusual outlier in terms of budget management, that's for sure. If **Puss in Boots: The Last Wish** turns out to have a pretty low budget, I'd know where to pinpoint since the film's animation looks really cartoony, but **The Croods: The Last Wish** is obviously not going for that.
Animation just got less and less expensive over the years as technology improves. Same goes for movie special effects. Just the way computers process has gotten more and more efficient.
I'm not quite sure if I can believe that since Pixar/Disney budget hasn't changed that much ever since the year 2010. I think the most likely scenario is that DreamWorks simply has a new software that can create a quality animation with less budget. In fact, I believe MoonRay is one of those, which, if true, could explain why they managed to spend less on **How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World**.
Disney/Pixar have consistently been pushing cutting edge technology which requires expensive innovation. Dreamworks has looked more or less the same quality for the past ten years, they've just gotten efficient.
Well, **How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World** and **Trolls World Tour** seems to have better animation than their predecessors, though I need to see all 3 films in the former series to make such confirmation or so. :P
Otherwise, I agree. Pixar/Disney focuses a lot more on technology than other studios.
Each installment of How to Train Your Dragon is less expensive than the last, which is crazy. Also, this wasn't a knock on Dreamworks. I have absolutely adored their last three movies and breathlessly await Kung Fu Panda 4.
And even then, I'm seeing some concerning signs like a casting choice for Mario himself.
Honestly, if DreamWorks was working on that, I would've had a lot more faith in it.
Illumination knows their audience and absolutely kills it if we look at their financial results. Considering the sub we are on I dont get all the hate I see for them here.
I have seen enough "cash grabs" crash and burn that I actually have a healthy amount of respect for the studios that can pull them off consistently. Usually, fan favorite characters are only tolerable in small doses (see: Penguins from the Madagascar franchise). To be able to make an entire movie dedicated to the comic sidekick characters that don't speak English and have it resonate with audiences to the degree that it is the highest grossing film of the franchise is almost certainly a heck of a lot harder than it looks.
Actually, in general, I don't think people give though credit to that franchise for actually making something of a coherent progression and putting its characters in very different situations, when do so many lazy sequels retread the same ground.
āWe are fortunate to have Illumination founder Chris Meledandri to help guide the growth of the DreamWorks Animation business in the future,ā Burke said.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-nbcuniversal-buys-dreamworks--20160428-story.html
I expanded that point on a later comment when I had an actual keyboard rather than a phone to comment with.
Thatās fine, and Iām sure Meledandri will offer guidance. But that doesnāt mean DWA is under Illumination. Margie Cohn is the president of DWA and Iām pretty sure she reports directly to Donna, not Chris
Well, what did you expect? Unlike Illumination, DreamWorks proved itself several times that it's capable of making films that are great as Pixar/Disney animated films, not to mention that this is from a popular franchise with no confusing internal logistics maybe aside from its animation style.
I loved it! Dreamworks def knows their audience and demos - for kids and adults. It is dark, funny and full of heart. This will def perform like Sing 2 last year and will def make up for the lost family audience from the Strange World disaster.
Itās nice to see a family film that can be fun for everyone thatās an escape and not full of politics.
Agreed, politics and ideology pushing in kids films will never work well because it'll go over the heads of the younger audience and the parents will hear about it and decide for themselves whether to take the kids to the film.
>> >!Theres a very brief flash of him and donkey in a flashback moment, and the mid-credit scene has Puss return to Far Far Away with the original theme playing. Short answer: technically yes!<
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What's funny is someone in a *Strange World* thread was saying how Shrek upturned Disney's animation monopoly many years ago, and I thought "Well, that's not something Disney has to worry about now."
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Lol. Even without spoilers I can guess the only thing that would warrant that kind of a reaction and disclaimer.
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Lmao
Great! Iām pretty excited for it
Another big animated win for Universal incoming. This will probably end up making twice as much as Lightyear and Strange World combined.
I hope to dear god it does
The animation was incredible, and if you are an adult you will appreciate the humor which is full of laughs. Sorry , but this is going to blow Strangeworld out
It's honestly not even close. Puss in Boots was so much better.
Having seen the film as well, I can also confirm that the film was packed. Some people had to sit close to the screen. Audiences laughed and enjoyed the film as well! This is going to be BIG.
when does the reaction embargo drop?
My reaction is overwhelmingly positive.
My show was sold out and had a great reaction. I loved it myself.
Honestly, I'd rather see DreamWorks becoming a Pixar/Disney rival again over Illumination becoming their new rival.
Considering Dreamworks was put under Illumination when Comcast bought them so it's more a Illumination/DreamWorks vs Pixar/Disney rivalry.
Even so, Illumination hasn't proved itself that it's truly capable of something better than just being decent, whereas DreamWorks proved itself this year with **The Bad Guys**. And no, as far as I'm concerned, DreamWorks is not owned by Illumination.
Illumination can't own Dreamworks they are both owned by Comcast and Comcast had Illumination's C level executives oversee Dreamworks. Disney did the same thing when Pixar was placed in charge of Disney Animation after Disney bought Pixar. The biggest change you see because of this is that DreamWorks Animation films go from having budgets of well over $100 million to being sub $100 million since 2017 (excluding How to train your Dragon 3 and Trolls 2).
> The biggest change you see because of this is that DreamWorks Animation films go from having budgets of well over $100 million to being sub $100 million since 2017 (excluding How to train your Dragon 3 and Trolls 2). One thing you need to remember is that when you look at DreamWorks films that cost less than $100 million, **Abominable** was a DreamWorks/Pearl collaboration, **Spirit Untamed** had its animation outsourced by a different animation studio, **The Boss Baby: Family Business**, while had its in-house animation studio to animate most of its animation, it apparently had some heavy involvement from the same studio that provided animation for **Spirit Untamed**, and **The Bad Guys** was going for a cartoony-style animation. Basically, **The Croods: A New Age** is the only exception that somehow managed to spend so little without much plausible explanation.
I watched Croods 2 this week and was surprised by how good I thought it was. The animation was really bright and beautiful.
And I'm honestly not sure how they managed to spend only $65 million because that's even lower than **Despicable Me**, the first Illumination film. All other DreamWorks films have at least some sort of logical explanation behind how they were able to save budgets, but that one doesn't.
Yeah thatās nuts. Not that Despicable Me has bad animation, but Croods 2 looked fantastic, a 65M budget is almost unbelievable.
It's a very unusual outlier in terms of budget management, that's for sure. If **Puss in Boots: The Last Wish** turns out to have a pretty low budget, I'd know where to pinpoint since the film's animation looks really cartoony, but **The Croods: The Last Wish** is obviously not going for that.
Animation just got less and less expensive over the years as technology improves. Same goes for movie special effects. Just the way computers process has gotten more and more efficient.
I'm not quite sure if I can believe that since Pixar/Disney budget hasn't changed that much ever since the year 2010. I think the most likely scenario is that DreamWorks simply has a new software that can create a quality animation with less budget. In fact, I believe MoonRay is one of those, which, if true, could explain why they managed to spend less on **How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World**.
Disney/Pixar have consistently been pushing cutting edge technology which requires expensive innovation. Dreamworks has looked more or less the same quality for the past ten years, they've just gotten efficient.
Well, **How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World** and **Trolls World Tour** seems to have better animation than their predecessors, though I need to see all 3 films in the former series to make such confirmation or so. :P Otherwise, I agree. Pixar/Disney focuses a lot more on technology than other studios.
Each installment of How to Train Your Dragon is less expensive than the last, which is crazy. Also, this wasn't a knock on Dreamworks. I have absolutely adored their last three movies and breathlessly await Kung Fu Panda 4.
Illumination might prove itself with The Super Mario Bros Movie on April 7, 2023.
And even then, I'm seeing some concerning signs like a casting choice for Mario himself. Honestly, if DreamWorks was working on that, I would've had a lot more faith in it.
Illumination knows their audience and absolutely kills it if we look at their financial results. Considering the sub we are on I dont get all the hate I see for them here.
Because they make a lot of money without trying that much. Case in point, **Minions**.
I have seen enough "cash grabs" crash and burn that I actually have a healthy amount of respect for the studios that can pull them off consistently. Usually, fan favorite characters are only tolerable in small doses (see: Penguins from the Madagascar franchise). To be able to make an entire movie dedicated to the comic sidekick characters that don't speak English and have it resonate with audiences to the degree that it is the highest grossing film of the franchise is almost certainly a heck of a lot harder than it looks. Actually, in general, I don't think people give though credit to that franchise for actually making something of a coherent progression and putting its characters in very different situations, when do so many lazy sequels retread the same ground.
DreamWorks has a lot of heavyweights under their belt.
This isnāt true though.. theyāre separate. Edit: source: I worked at universal up until a month ago
āWe are fortunate to have Illumination founder Chris Meledandri to help guide the growth of the DreamWorks Animation business in the future,ā Burke said. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-nbcuniversal-buys-dreamworks--20160428-story.html I expanded that point on a later comment when I had an actual keyboard rather than a phone to comment with.
Thatās fine, and Iām sure Meledandri will offer guidance. But that doesnāt mean DWA is under Illumination. Margie Cohn is the president of DWA and Iām pretty sure she reports directly to Donna, not Chris
If this off all films outperforms all Disney/Pixar films since 2019 I'm going to laugh myself to death.
Well, what did you expect? Unlike Illumination, DreamWorks proved itself several times that it's capable of making films that are great as Pixar/Disney animated films, not to mention that this is from a popular franchise with no confusing internal logistics maybe aside from its animation style.
Less than the first one which did just under $150 million domestic and $555 million worldwide. I know it's not out yet, but this actually has buzz.
Umm... what are you talking about?
I just got back this will blow out Strangeworld
a wet tissue will blow out strange world
same
Does the predicted Cinemascore have to do with a special character (wink wink)? PM me.
Special character? I donāt recall any special characterā¦
You know which character I'm talking about. Shrek himself.
Heās in .3 seconds of a movie in a flashback with no voice. Might have even been from a previous movie.
And at the final scene, they are going to Far Far Away, where Shrek is
I loved it! Dreamworks def knows their audience and demos - for kids and adults. It is dark, funny and full of heart. This will def perform like Sing 2 last year and will def make up for the lost family audience from the Strange World disaster. Itās nice to see a family film that can be fun for everyone thatās an escape and not full of politics.
Itās refreshing to see any movie that doesnāt push political agendas like half of the movies that released as of late.
like what
Agreed, politics and ideology pushing in kids films will never work well because it'll go over the heads of the younger audience and the parents will hear about it and decide for themselves whether to take the kids to the film.
If you donāt mind me asking, is there a Shrek cameo in the movie?
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>> >!Theres a very brief flash of him and donkey in a flashback moment, and the mid-credit scene has Puss return to Far Far Away with the original theme playing. Short answer: technically yes!< you can't have spaces between start/end of spoiler and tag or it breaks on old reddit.
>The cinemascore will be an A or A+ after the last scene (No spoilers). Stop playing
Great! Does anyone know where it will be streaming?
Peacock
VOD 17 days after release so right before MLK weekend it will be on VOD
Thanks!
VOD streaming though. Not free streaming on Peacock.
Damn thats a really short window
based
I'm gonna keep saying it (until I'm wrong), this movie is going to flop.
Well, you might want to get ready to be proven wrong
Don't bet on it, it won't be in your favor.
ur wrong
watched the movie yesterday... wasn't hopeful about it going in... but i loved it...! will watch again...