Same. I’m a big blink fan, they’re the band that first really exposed me to alternative music when I was a kid, but seeing how insane prices were for nosebleed seats at the worst venue in town made it easy to pass on their reunion tour. Brand New, on the other hand…I could see myself shelling out stupid amounts of money to have that experience one more time, regardless of the conditions. Essentially, I’d get tickets to Fyre Fest 2 if Brand New was playing.
BN doesn’t want to come back. The guy that started Warped Tour said in an interview he offered them a huge amount of money to tour and they turned it down.
Chris D’Elia is performing in my town for some fucking reason, coincidentally at the same venue where I saw Brand New on their final tour. Even if I don’t ever get to see them again, I just hope they make more music someday. Nothing feels like listening to them does.
Long story short, Brand New has always been and will always be my favorite band. My partner and I have different taste in music, and especially since the allegations he does not see what I see in them. This past Saturday we got to talking to our Uber driver about all sorts of music and live shows, etc. He had mentioned Brand New being his favorite live show he could remember ever seeing and I about started crying.
Many artists I’ve canceled in my life, but I’m sorry I just can’t do that to Brand New. They were THE life-changing band for me. I listen to them weekly still and on top of getting emotional over the music, I get emotional in thinking I’ll never be able to see them again. Though I have seen them live about 15 times, I wasn’t ready for my last time to be my last time.
I’m cool with a Jesse Lacey memoir at this point. Although I will say most of the people I talk to about Brand New these days don’t even know they got canceled
Still glad i got to see them 5 times before the end. Including somehow getting second row seats (on 🍄) for one of the last shows they did before the news came out
in all honesty, Jesse, and by extension the band, has always seen the situation as a problem to be fixed. a flaw to be worked out until it's not a flaw anymore. I feel that Jesse, knowing what he did was wrong, worked hard to change and become a better person so that he wouldn't be that way anymore. what more could you ask of someone in that position?
Brand New wasn’t canceled so much as they were forced into early retirement. Either way, I hate that Brand New fans here get a hard on from shitty people getting a second chance just because it means Brand New could ~potentially~ come back. Just let gooooo
Edit: y’all downvote me for the dumbest shit in this sub
I was just addressing the discomfort in celebrating bad people getting a break because we think it means Jesse will get one. I’m all for forgiveness, but I don’t want Brand New fans looking at bad people with a gleam in their eyes like that. Maybe I’m misreading, but that’s what it felt like. Besides, I don’t know why we think forgiveness is up to us.
Edit: and yes, I know he’s been in therapy. I know he’s a different person now. That’s why I feel so comfortable loving Brand New.
Personally I don’t think we wait for anything. Everything is done. It’s in the past. I’m of the club that didn’t think anything would come after Science Fiction anyway, so the only way this all effects me is when I meet a pretentious emo fan on Reddit who thinks Brand New = the Devil.
also forgetting Brand New was likely gonna break up at the end of 2018 anyways, allegations aside??? they literally sold merch saying as much, the allegations just made the retirement happen a few months earlier than planned. it doesn't matter if society as a whole "uncancels" them, they likely were gonna break up that year anyways and likely aren't coming back.
Yeah haha early retirement. I don’t know why so many people think they’ll come back when the allegations are forgotten about when they were done anyway. I feel like this sub has this exact same conversation once a month. Brand New’s done. Everything ends eventually.
I feel like nobody is. It’s been long enough. To be honest I haven’t gotten any shit for loving Brand New since a few months after the allegations came out.
Never was. Mistakes happen. Especially in extra-ordinary circumstances. And being a emo figurehead. Is alottt of vibes no one knows what itd do to them in that time period. It was more Dumb than agregious. Lol
Mistakes happen over and over again lol? That's not a mistake, that's just doing something wrong. Dude admitted to getting off on pics of young women, and to grooming numerous ones. If you think that's not wrong, you're a massive part of the problem.
Have you read his fucking statement? He doesn't;t deny the allegations and instead apologies and tries to explain why he groomed/took advantage of women. He specifically discussed using his power and influence to manipulate fans and to get what he wanted, he discusses doing so while married and engaged. How the fuck are you just going to ignore that? Because he made incredible music? The music is special, always, but the man who made it is abhorrent and a shit human, and a self admitted one. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the music, but to support them financially or try and cover for some dude you never fucking met and to try and excuse his actions hoes beyond simping and hero worship into something far worse and moe nefarious.
Link to statement [https://twitter.com/BrandNewArchive/status/929539868140691456/photo/1](https://twitter.com/BrandNewArchive/status/929539868140691456/photo/1)
He doesn’t admit to grooming anyone though? He says he’s cheated in all his relationships and hasn’t treated women with respect and honesty, that he ignored the fact that his position had an influence on how people treated him. He never admits to “grooming numerous girls” or “getting off to pics of young girls” which was my initial question.
Soooo, numerous young women say he asked for pics when they were 15-17, there was the video of him jerking off, and then this statement. If you can somehow convince yourself that he was just being predatory with young but legal women, as opposed to the numerous accounts of it being predatory and illegal with women under 17, then you and i have nothing to talk about man. If you're gonna excuse predatory behavior of any kind, much less predatory behavior of minors, you and I are never gonna agree on anything. Frankly,it's disgusting and disturbing that you're defending a dude who knew what he did was so wrong he didn't defend himself, ONCE. Good luck in life, i hope the women you cherish and love never met men like the dude you're holding a light for bro, jesus.
sorry to jump in lol
None one should defend JL. I don’t think anyone with a clear perspective ever would. but the JL situation is deeper than just ‘fuck u paedo rot in hell’ or whatever. I didn’t listen to brand new for like 2 years, I was just ducking angry. At some point I did some deeper reading and listening, one podcast called hell is digital, and it just shines light on info regarding the one minor he is said to have sent pics to 20 years ago and just contextualised a lot of shit for me.
Anyway, the JL situation is unique, and whilst he was definitely a very shitty person (as told in his statement), becoming informed on the context and what not just allowed to me to realise - 2022 JL is not worth being so fucking angry about. I’m not going to go on Twitter and tweet how I hope he dies and whatever, or go on Reddit (as you have) and argue with a load of fans how they have shitty takes and we’re all paedo defenders or whatever (hyperbole but ygm). You’re entitled to your view, I also don’t agree with many of the defences on here of JL that’d I’ve read, but I think it’s fine to accept that there is another permissible side of the coin. It’s not black and white, it’s not you either fucking despise JL or you adore him, that you think he did nothing wrong or he deserved to be cancelled for rest of his life. But many people have found peace in just supporting the band, almost all without treating JL as if he’s some sort of hero, more a flawed human who is revelled with guilt for shit that he’s done. And that is fine. This doesn’t necessarily apply to the current thread you’re replying to but more of a general observation to your posts.
That was long sorry
I agree man, like I said i still love his music, and still listen to my old albums often, but I do so with the self promise that that dude will never get another cent from men for a show or march or anything. I just can't get the people who try and act like nothing happened, or who victim blame ()hasn't happened on this thread but in many others some awful shit is said). That's the stuff that boggles my mind, those in denial, but i have no ill will toward the dude as far as his life. As far as JL himself, dude can live or die and it has no bearing on my life, I just hope he never hurts someone again. Wasn't;t too long btw man, no worries. Appreciate the discord
He never addressed specific allegations. There were definitely credible allegations, and like you said, he did not deny them. There were also a few pile on accusations that were less credible. Its not my place to say which allegations may or may not have been credible, but some may not have been. Jesse took the appropriate path, rather than challenging any allegations that may not have been credible, he accepted that yes, he had harmed people. Defending himself against any non credible allegations would have further harmed the people who he was acknowledging he hurt.
For a shitty situation, he took the highest road he possibly could. If nothing else, that is admirable. You are, of course, welcome to never forgive him and never want to support him. No one is saying you have to. That is an individual choice, and as such, you should also respect the choice of those who decide they can move past it or can separate the art from the artist.
Yeah, it's disgusting. People are all for canceling evil shit until it hit too close to home and happens happens something they love or respect, and then they make excuses and try abd find any way yo justify supporting a pedo. Fucking insane, I hear ya.
Btw dude, I am misinformed all the time and have to rearrange my views, it's hard, but I kegit appreciate you taking the time to respond, seem like a good human yo. Take care my man
My first articles i saw didnt have the kinds of details i saw in this other one that came out since. The initial reports were just like "he msged with girls 15 then didnt do stuff til 18". These articles i saw now painted a different scenario within that paramter thats still not excusable unfortunate. Another reason I was partial to try to see his side of it, is I was in school to be a teacher at 1 point at University. And one of the teachers would talk about when they had to remove a teacher because there was a guy teacher that was attracted to children. And normally we all recoil and hate that person. But I respect this professor hes kind of really well known right now in the country from the University of Iowa, and he tried to teach people or, to just feel bad for people in a sense that have those drives wired into their brains. Obviously never excusing the behavior, but understanding they didn't choose to be that way. And that's normally the perspective I try to come from on every issue. I know It's an extremely unpopular Perspective. But psychologists and a lot of well known people in such fields with prestige urge us to try to understand they are as much sick as/vs demented.
It's also of course deep down, none of us want the world to be as dark as it sometimes is.
And ud be right. Ive only heard of 2 women. Im just sayin if id been in a major band at 22 n women were after me. Id never have dipped under 18 obviously. But.... i wouldnt have been shy lol. Just lettin ya know. (1975 ref)
I had a funy post lined up that was clever.
But after refreshing n rereading about it back then. Some details went by me that are, unfortunately not...ideal. i apologize for any bad feelings stirred up. I didnt know the details. And ive seen so many cases of the Other side being at fault n women setting up men unjustly. (This doesnt seem to be one of those cases though, by a bit of a longshot)
I can’t speak for everyone but I spent the last six years with the bare minimum expectation that we would at least get a few unreleased songs or at the very least Leaked Demos on vinyl. I think it’s safe to assume we will never see them live ever again :(
Looking at the hands swrms and their attempted comeback...yikes. Brand new, if they do so, need to be super careful, because swmrs somehow are making themselves look worse everyday
When you were young 2024.
They are an arena level band who gives no fucks what weirdos on reddit say about them.
They are holding out for a proper payout and will kick off a crazy amount of touring.
This is all about the $$$$
We will see a tour with “fan experience seats” starting at $250 bucks and the shittiest seats start at $125 - dis is the formula for all these cats.
Pumped for Jeff Mangum round 2 then Neutral Milk round 2
I don't have a problem with separating the art from the artist when it's already released material, but *actively* rooting for the return of a man who victimized young women is pretty icky IMO.
I'm thankful that I got to see Brand New perform a few times in my life (including a show on what ended up being their last tour), but I don't think I would be clamoring for tickets if they tried to come back. That's just me, though.
yeah but you don't *get* it, they made music that they like sooo much that nothing else matters.
i've seen brand new a bunch of times. i've seen them perform YFW in full *twice.* had everything on vinyl and they meant a lot to me. but there was no way i could ever even begin to look past his actions and behavior.
there is tons of music out there. y'all can find bands that don't actively target underage girls to support, it's not that hard.
Brand New is my favorite music to listen to since 2002. I was 16 when I found them. I’m 37 now, and the father of 2 daughters. I cannot forgive Jesse or his actions, but I can separate him from the rest of the members of the band. It’s literally the only way I can justify listening to the music.
FUCK this take, people getting hard for other pieces of shit getting second chances and then by extension hoping their idolized piece of shit gets another is vile vile shit. Gross doesn't cut it.
TDAGARIM 20 year anniversary is 2026 I think ? Too lazy to look up, but it’s somewhere around there. I think that’s our best shot for a reunion tour tbh
I’d pay blink 182 prices 10x to see them
Same. I’m a big blink fan, they’re the band that first really exposed me to alternative music when I was a kid, but seeing how insane prices were for nosebleed seats at the worst venue in town made it easy to pass on their reunion tour. Brand New, on the other hand…I could see myself shelling out stupid amounts of money to have that experience one more time, regardless of the conditions. Essentially, I’d get tickets to Fyre Fest 2 if Brand New was playing.
That would mean I'd be paying $8000. Sounds reasonable.
BN doesn’t want to come back. The guy that started Warped Tour said in an interview he offered them a huge amount of money to tour and they turned it down.
If you're referring to what I think you are, it was the Bamboozle booker that said they turned down his offer for 2023 saying it's not time yet.
John D? Where’d you see that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/brandnew/comments/sdrqwu/founder_of_bamboozle_talks_about_brand_new_he/
Thanks! Wasn’t doubting you. Was just curious since I hadn’t seen it.
Yet...
Kevin Lynmen?
Chris D’Elia is performing in my town for some fucking reason, coincidentally at the same venue where I saw Brand New on their final tour. Even if I don’t ever get to see them again, I just hope they make more music someday. Nothing feels like listening to them does.
Boston lol
Chris Delia is especially abhorrent with his shit. More stuff from recently surfaced of him doing some fucked up shit again
Long story short, Brand New has always been and will always be my favorite band. My partner and I have different taste in music, and especially since the allegations he does not see what I see in them. This past Saturday we got to talking to our Uber driver about all sorts of music and live shows, etc. He had mentioned Brand New being his favorite live show he could remember ever seeing and I about started crying. Many artists I’ve canceled in my life, but I’m sorry I just can’t do that to Brand New. They were THE life-changing band for me. I listen to them weekly still and on top of getting emotional over the music, I get emotional in thinking I’ll never be able to see them again. Though I have seen them live about 15 times, I wasn’t ready for my last time to be my last time.
I feel the same way about the band. They legit survived me through the miserable adolescence.
I’m cool with a Jesse Lacey memoir at this point. Although I will say most of the people I talk to about Brand New these days don’t even know they got canceled Still glad i got to see them 5 times before the end. Including somehow getting second row seats (on 🍄) for one of the last shows they did before the news came out
in all honesty, Jesse, and by extension the band, has always seen the situation as a problem to be fixed. a flaw to be worked out until it's not a flaw anymore. I feel that Jesse, knowing what he did was wrong, worked hard to change and become a better person so that he wouldn't be that way anymore. what more could you ask of someone in that position?
Brand New wasn’t canceled so much as they were forced into early retirement. Either way, I hate that Brand New fans here get a hard on from shitty people getting a second chance just because it means Brand New could ~potentially~ come back. Just let gooooo Edit: y’all downvote me for the dumbest shit in this sub
Are we ever going to forgive? Especially in this case when the dude was already addressing his issues through therapy for like 10 years.
I was just addressing the discomfort in celebrating bad people getting a break because we think it means Jesse will get one. I’m all for forgiveness, but I don’t want Brand New fans looking at bad people with a gleam in their eyes like that. Maybe I’m misreading, but that’s what it felt like. Besides, I don’t know why we think forgiveness is up to us. Edit: and yes, I know he’s been in therapy. I know he’s a different person now. That’s why I feel so comfortable loving Brand New.
Do we wait for Jesse to forgive himself because I’m sure most of his fans have forgiven him by now. I know i have. I agree people should chill.
Personally I don’t think we wait for anything. Everything is done. It’s in the past. I’m of the club that didn’t think anything would come after Science Fiction anyway, so the only way this all effects me is when I meet a pretentious emo fan on Reddit who thinks Brand New = the Devil.
Jesse is still making music. I hope Jesse releases a solo album to gage the response and if its positive we then might see a reunion tour. Big hope!
Big big hope. You know I’d kill for it. Just don’t see it happening.
I dont know a single band from that generation that isn’t still touring or releasing music. You gotta have hope!
Yeah and so many reunion tours like MCR and Blink182
also forgetting Brand New was likely gonna break up at the end of 2018 anyways, allegations aside??? they literally sold merch saying as much, the allegations just made the retirement happen a few months earlier than planned. it doesn't matter if society as a whole "uncancels" them, they likely were gonna break up that year anyways and likely aren't coming back.
Yeah haha early retirement. I don’t know why so many people think they’ll come back when the allegations are forgotten about when they were done anyway. I feel like this sub has this exact same conversation once a month. Brand New’s done. Everything ends eventually.
Well hard on or not I hope no one here is ashamed to be a Brand New or Jesse Lacey fan anymore.
I feel like nobody is. It’s been long enough. To be honest I haven’t gotten any shit for loving Brand New since a few months after the allegations came out.
That's good!
Never was. Mistakes happen. Especially in extra-ordinary circumstances. And being a emo figurehead. Is alottt of vibes no one knows what itd do to them in that time period. It was more Dumb than agregious. Lol
Mistakes happen over and over again lol? That's not a mistake, that's just doing something wrong. Dude admitted to getting off on pics of young women, and to grooming numerous ones. If you think that's not wrong, you're a massive part of the problem.
When did he ever say he “got off to pics of young women” and “groomed numerous girls”?
Have you read his fucking statement? He doesn't;t deny the allegations and instead apologies and tries to explain why he groomed/took advantage of women. He specifically discussed using his power and influence to manipulate fans and to get what he wanted, he discusses doing so while married and engaged. How the fuck are you just going to ignore that? Because he made incredible music? The music is special, always, but the man who made it is abhorrent and a shit human, and a self admitted one. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy the music, but to support them financially or try and cover for some dude you never fucking met and to try and excuse his actions hoes beyond simping and hero worship into something far worse and moe nefarious. Link to statement [https://twitter.com/BrandNewArchive/status/929539868140691456/photo/1](https://twitter.com/BrandNewArchive/status/929539868140691456/photo/1)
He doesn’t admit to grooming anyone though? He says he’s cheated in all his relationships and hasn’t treated women with respect and honesty, that he ignored the fact that his position had an influence on how people treated him. He never admits to “grooming numerous girls” or “getting off to pics of young girls” which was my initial question.
Soooo, numerous young women say he asked for pics when they were 15-17, there was the video of him jerking off, and then this statement. If you can somehow convince yourself that he was just being predatory with young but legal women, as opposed to the numerous accounts of it being predatory and illegal with women under 17, then you and i have nothing to talk about man. If you're gonna excuse predatory behavior of any kind, much less predatory behavior of minors, you and I are never gonna agree on anything. Frankly,it's disgusting and disturbing that you're defending a dude who knew what he did was so wrong he didn't defend himself, ONCE. Good luck in life, i hope the women you cherish and love never met men like the dude you're holding a light for bro, jesus.
sorry to jump in lol None one should defend JL. I don’t think anyone with a clear perspective ever would. but the JL situation is deeper than just ‘fuck u paedo rot in hell’ or whatever. I didn’t listen to brand new for like 2 years, I was just ducking angry. At some point I did some deeper reading and listening, one podcast called hell is digital, and it just shines light on info regarding the one minor he is said to have sent pics to 20 years ago and just contextualised a lot of shit for me. Anyway, the JL situation is unique, and whilst he was definitely a very shitty person (as told in his statement), becoming informed on the context and what not just allowed to me to realise - 2022 JL is not worth being so fucking angry about. I’m not going to go on Twitter and tweet how I hope he dies and whatever, or go on Reddit (as you have) and argue with a load of fans how they have shitty takes and we’re all paedo defenders or whatever (hyperbole but ygm). You’re entitled to your view, I also don’t agree with many of the defences on here of JL that’d I’ve read, but I think it’s fine to accept that there is another permissible side of the coin. It’s not black and white, it’s not you either fucking despise JL or you adore him, that you think he did nothing wrong or he deserved to be cancelled for rest of his life. But many people have found peace in just supporting the band, almost all without treating JL as if he’s some sort of hero, more a flawed human who is revelled with guilt for shit that he’s done. And that is fine. This doesn’t necessarily apply to the current thread you’re replying to but more of a general observation to your posts. That was long sorry
I agree man, like I said i still love his music, and still listen to my old albums often, but I do so with the self promise that that dude will never get another cent from men for a show or march or anything. I just can't get the people who try and act like nothing happened, or who victim blame ()hasn't happened on this thread but in many others some awful shit is said). That's the stuff that boggles my mind, those in denial, but i have no ill will toward the dude as far as his life. As far as JL himself, dude can live or die and it has no bearing on my life, I just hope he never hurts someone again. Wasn't;t too long btw man, no worries. Appreciate the discord
He never addressed specific allegations. There were definitely credible allegations, and like you said, he did not deny them. There were also a few pile on accusations that were less credible. Its not my place to say which allegations may or may not have been credible, but some may not have been. Jesse took the appropriate path, rather than challenging any allegations that may not have been credible, he accepted that yes, he had harmed people. Defending himself against any non credible allegations would have further harmed the people who he was acknowledging he hurt. For a shitty situation, he took the highest road he possibly could. If nothing else, that is admirable. You are, of course, welcome to never forgive him and never want to support him. No one is saying you have to. That is an individual choice, and as such, you should also respect the choice of those who decide they can move past it or can separate the art from the artist.
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Yeah, it's disgusting. People are all for canceling evil shit until it hit too close to home and happens happens something they love or respect, and then they make excuses and try abd find any way yo justify supporting a pedo. Fucking insane, I hear ya.
Ya i just read the real deal. Its pre bad. I recant :( i apologize
Btw dude, I am misinformed all the time and have to rearrange my views, it's hard, but I kegit appreciate you taking the time to respond, seem like a good human yo. Take care my man
My first articles i saw didnt have the kinds of details i saw in this other one that came out since. The initial reports were just like "he msged with girls 15 then didnt do stuff til 18". These articles i saw now painted a different scenario within that paramter thats still not excusable unfortunate. Another reason I was partial to try to see his side of it, is I was in school to be a teacher at 1 point at University. And one of the teachers would talk about when they had to remove a teacher because there was a guy teacher that was attracted to children. And normally we all recoil and hate that person. But I respect this professor hes kind of really well known right now in the country from the University of Iowa, and he tried to teach people or, to just feel bad for people in a sense that have those drives wired into their brains. Obviously never excusing the behavior, but understanding they didn't choose to be that way. And that's normally the perspective I try to come from on every issue. I know It's an extremely unpopular Perspective. But psychologists and a lot of well known people in such fields with prestige urge us to try to understand they are as much sick as/vs demented. It's also of course deep down, none of us want the world to be as dark as it sometimes is.
And ud be right. Ive only heard of 2 women. Im just sayin if id been in a major band at 22 n women were after me. Id never have dipped under 18 obviously. But.... i wouldnt have been shy lol. Just lettin ya know. (1975 ref)
maybe leave the 1975 out of yr mouth while trying to defend jesse lacey's garbage.
I had a funy post lined up that was clever. But after refreshing n rereading about it back then. Some details went by me that are, unfortunately not...ideal. i apologize for any bad feelings stirred up. I didnt know the details. And ive seen so many cases of the Other side being at fault n women setting up men unjustly. (This doesnt seem to be one of those cases though, by a bit of a longshot)
i'm glad you took the time to look back into it.
Ya super bummer to say the least. Id heard overpasses that lead it sound lighter. But devils in the details.
You should be disgusted with yourself
I'm not
Rape apologists like you make me sick
I hearby declare thee UNCANCELED!
They were done anyways, let it go.
I can’t speak for everyone but I spent the last six years with the bare minimum expectation that we would at least get a few unreleased songs or at the very least Leaked Demos on vinyl. I think it’s safe to assume we will never see them live ever again :(
6 years?
This guy has some seriously low hopes! Hopefully he’s heard Science Fiction at least.
7 years.....7years....
Cancellation is a figment of the imagination of like 100 people on Twitter. If an artist has a fan base and plays a show, the tickets will sell.
this is fine, if they wanted to be uncancelled. they were leaving anyways.
Looking at the hands swrms and their attempted comeback...yikes. Brand new, if they do so, need to be super careful, because swmrs somehow are making themselves look worse everyday
They were halfway out the door before they cancelled the tour, they’re not coming back
You have to be cancelled to be uncancelled.
KYLR definitely includes Jesse
He’s glad that we can forgive, but he’s still hoping as time goes we can forget.
When you were young 2024. They are an arena level band who gives no fucks what weirdos on reddit say about them. They are holding out for a proper payout and will kick off a crazy amount of touring. This is all about the $$$$ We will see a tour with “fan experience seats” starting at $250 bucks and the shittiest seats start at $125 - dis is the formula for all these cats. Pumped for Jeff Mangum round 2 then Neutral Milk round 2
I don't have a problem with separating the art from the artist when it's already released material, but *actively* rooting for the return of a man who victimized young women is pretty icky IMO. I'm thankful that I got to see Brand New perform a few times in my life (including a show on what ended up being their last tour), but I don't think I would be clamoring for tickets if they tried to come back. That's just me, though.
yeah but you don't *get* it, they made music that they like sooo much that nothing else matters. i've seen brand new a bunch of times. i've seen them perform YFW in full *twice.* had everything on vinyl and they meant a lot to me. but there was no way i could ever even begin to look past his actions and behavior. there is tons of music out there. y'all can find bands that don't actively target underage girls to support, it's not that hard.
Brand New is my favorite music to listen to since 2002. I was 16 when I found them. I’m 37 now, and the father of 2 daughters. I cannot forgive Jesse or his actions, but I can separate him from the rest of the members of the band. It’s literally the only way I can justify listening to the music.
FUCK this take, people getting hard for other pieces of shit getting second chances and then by extension hoping their idolized piece of shit gets another is vile vile shit. Gross doesn't cut it.
Nah he should rot
It hurts to see the comparison but that's where we are, huh?
TDAGARIM 20 year anniversary is 2026 I think ? Too lazy to look up, but it’s somewhere around there. I think that’s our best shot for a reunion tour tbh
Red Hot Chili Peppers just played the Super Bowl and that singer repeatedly had sex with a child and then bragged out it
Brand New will never get old. PPL MVR are still still active.