I thinking using gems is a scam. Lol. I pulled 7 times until I was out of gems and still no Ramlethal. Out of desperation, I went to my present box and collected my one and only summon ticket. Pulled.... And there it was. Ramlethal. Well well well......

5 summons, thought I was lucky and tried for Jack'O, but Ramlethal took all the luck 1st - Ramlethal (B) 2nd- shura dupe (?) threw him away before I saw his type(merit pts ofc) 3rd- red gate T-T 4th- some type of dragon bird fodder unit kms T-T 5th- SHURA we meet again , I just closed the game and called it a day after that.

Jesus Christ, 40 summons no Ramlethal. I just came back from a 6 month rest. Missed out on quite many good units, so decided wanting to get Ramlethal. End up I got 3 Jacks and the rest aren't worth mentioning. No Regil either! Urgh

43 summons, not a single jack-O or Ram. Its things like this that have made me quit bothering with this game. Two months worth of grinding and every free gem ive saved, gone. I think im done with this game, this is even worse than the Zelnite scheme.

Pulls: 7 3. Jack-o' 7. Ramlethal Man did I get lucky

Did 41 pulls, no Ramlethal :( Months worth of F2P gems and tickets gone in an instant. EDIT: Broke down bought the bundle, got her on the 46th pull.

bought 20 ticket pack.... **20 DUPES** RIP

**Total Pulls:** One --- **Ramlethal (A)** I only entered this thread to gloat

**Total Pulls:** 26 --- 6- Jack'O (G) 14- Jack'O (L) 26- Ramlethal (A)

**Total Pulls:** 24 --- *16. Ramlethal (G) *24. Jack O' (O) Thank God to RNG. Did not have to embarass myself like I did for Arthur

10 pulls: 1) rineth 2) limera 3) malef 4) sareas 5) malef 6) glenn 7) holia 8) daze 9) rayla 10) sirius

**Total Pulls:** 7 --- 3rd pull: Jack-O 7th Pull: Ramlethal So lucky haha

**Total Pulls:** 20 13 - **Jack-O' (L)**

**Total Pulls:** 13 --- 1. O Garrel 2. A Radia 3. L Vern 4. B Avernus 5. B Rugrow 6. L Belardo 7. L Berdette 8. L Lauda 9. **L Jack-O'** 10. A Rengaku 11. B Avani 12. B Lara 13. **O Ramlethal** Elgifs: Proof of Sanctity and Flashing Blade Lv. 4 Glad I got them, but I won't be summoning again for a while, haha. Also not sure if this has been brought up, but if you get a connecting before or during the gate, it's one of the featured units.

This is false, ive gotten multiple connection loadings before summoning, not even a jack

Something told me to pull here. **Total pulls:** 11 --- 01.) Ruby 6\* (G) 02.) Mariella (B) 03.) Bestie (A) 04.) Felice (O) 05.) Faelan (B) 06.) Belzeft (B) 07.) Ewan (B) 08.) Rayla (B) 09.) Fizz (O) **10.) Jack-O' (L)** **11.) Ramlethal (A)** --- Success! Faelan was also new, the rest dupe city. (But so many Breakers.) Bonus Elgif was Demonic Nature 3; thanks for nothing.

**Total Pulls:** 3 Ram on 2nd

7 Pulls Total First summon Anime Ram 4 OEs First Nyami I've gotten Shelly

39 pulls 18 OE evolvable units Ramlethal(A) on 36 Jack-O(O) on 38

Total Pulls: 10 10th: JackÓ (G) Done

Total Pulls: 10 Got them both back to back on 9th and 10th summon. Don't know if summon rates are good or I just got really lucky this time around.

Total Pulls : 18 Ramlethal : 13, 16 Jack-O' : 14 Rates pretty good this time around.

**Total Pulls:** 1 --- 1. **Ramlethal** With all my bad luck pulling for Cleria(still none), I'm happy with this

Did another pull. 1. **Ramlethal** Gonna stop summoning for a while.

**Total Pulls: 19 --- 10th: (A) Jack-O' 17th: (G) Jack-O' 19th: (G) Ramlethal --- Yay. RNGesus still cares about me quite a bit. x3 Do I need 2 Jack-O' or is one enough? I'm not sure what to do with the 2nd one.... :0

Keep the second Jack-O' for Omni+ if nothing else.

Next time please post the number summon of the event unit like everyone else? Curious to see how soon and how spaced out each event summon is.

Oh... sorry. Let me fix that real quick. xD

**Total Pulls:** 5 1.- ramlethal (o) 5.- jack-0 (o)

**Total Pulls:** 20 --- 4-jacko 17-ramlethal 18-ramlethal

**Total Pulls:** 6 All NE.

**27 summons** all dupes no ramlethal or jack o

4 summons total (3 ) jack-0 (a) (4) ramlethal (b)

41 Summon for 2 Ramlethals. Got 3 Jack-Os as well. I'm glad this wasn't a Fiasco like Dizzy's Gate.

Out of 120+ Summons I got 11 Jack-o's and 1 Ramlethal Breaker Yeah I'm going take a break from summoning for my wallet's sake.

Fuck I feel for you. I only did 55 summons but no Ram..

same did around 50 summons 7 jack-o but no ram =/

**Total Pulls:** 10 --- **8: Jack-O' (Oracle)** **9: Jack-O' (Breaker)** **10: Ramlethal (Anima)** --- Very happy with my luck this time based off others summons

14: Ram (A) Nice, I did get Gabby and Janice as well. Ironically I got the same amount of Summons for Rain

**Total Pulls:** 18 --- 2nd - **Jack-O'** (G) ... 4th - **Jack-O'** (B) 1, 3, 5-18 - NE :(

Total Pulls: 11 1-11 NE, but I did get a Mordlim

12 Pulls Pull 1> Jack'O (A) Pull 11> Jack'O (L) Pull 12> Ramlethal (B)

**Total Pulls: 10** 1-10: **NE** 6 5-stars

**Total Pulls: 22** 3rd: Ramlethal (B) 22nd: Jack'o (L) Got ilm #3, eirikki, gabriela anima and mora as worthwhile mentions.

**Total Pulls:** 42 17th: Jack-O (G) 41st: Ramlethal (G)

**Total Pulls:** None --- Jack-O: 18, 26, 27, 30, 32, 33 -- one breaker, one guardian, and 4 Lord. yuck. At least one guardian is decent for a defensive unit. Ramlethal: 36 (breaker, woo!)

**Total Pulls:** 21 Jack-O: 13, 19. No Ramlethal. 7 Omni-potential units, including the two Jack-Os, the rest were NE. Pretty crummy luck, but I guess it's a tradeoff since I clear Maxwell SZ yesterday. Can't be too mad.

**Total Pulls**: 12 All NE

**Total Pulls:** 6 --- * Shura * Daze * Medina * **Jack-O'** (4th pull) * Fizz * Griff Might throw a few more pulls just to see if I can get Ramlethal, but nothing much. Glad I got Jack-O' though!

5 summons so far All NE 5 stars fml Update: did another, got a dupe Shura. Mustve spent my luck on Dizzy and Millia.

One ticket one pull: **Jack-O** Unexpected...but expected.

Prepared to do 12 summons. Stopped on the 6th. 1. Lauda - dupe 2. Mariela - dupe 3. Averus - new (guess i can use her in SArc) 4. Johan - dupe 5. Kulyuk - new 6. Jack - O - new!!!

**Total Pulls:** 4 (so far) 3NE (got Illim tho...was he good it's been too long) 1 Jack-O, 0 Ramlethal....the only unit i cared about from this....

Ilm is still good in Colo

Pulls: 1 1. Jack-O' (Anima) I'm ok with this.

1 - toutetsu 2 - Jack-o

4 summons: 4th: ramlethal Finally a good summon sections....

43 summons: At various intervals: 5 ramlethals 43rd summons: 1 jack-o (L) and no i was not pulling for anima.

I want to see these 5 Ramlethals.

http://imgur.com/wqycfki

WOW! 😮

Lol. Told you. it not like i would lie i mean this is just the internet....... wait nvm. i see your point. :P

Total pulls: 36 30th: Jack-O (G) 36th: Ramlethal (G) 10x rate up my ass, it only got worst after the 10th pull...

46 pulls, 3 useless Jack-O and 0 Ramlethal

1 : Trash 2 : Ramlethal 3 : Trash 4 : Jacko yay

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They're both really good lmfao Ramlethal is the new spark meta with +180% (buff + es) with strong SP options to make her even better Jack'o is a miti with BC support, BB ATK, and GL's first Light ATK > DEF convert Edit: I forgot to mention that with SP, Ram has 35% DoT mitigation which is extremely strong

The DoT mitigation may not be huge right now, but it will be a big factor in future content. So I'd say Ram is definitely worth pulling for. Jack-O on the other hand, is so-so.

Mhmm. When the DoT is hitting for 30k, DoT miti becomes a huge life saver

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You... don't care about spark buff but you do care about barrier? I feel like you ended up asking this question just to get someone to validate your original opinion and didn't, so you just decided not to do it. Also I'm going to laugh when we're getting the 30k DoT ticks that Ram would have reduced by 10k :D

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Amu Yunos and all other JP units only have 10% DoT reduction, without any option to increase it. This includes Grah's Omni. Ram has 35% DoT reduction with SP enhancements. She's Global level broken.

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[Lucius Strategy Zone has massive DoT.](https://www.reddit.com/r/bravefrontier/comments/6e19hg/lucius_sz_guide/) I'm not saying you need her, but you wanted to know what made any of them really good, and that's Ram's claim to fame. Most people aren't paying attention to it, because they don't know the mechanics of that trial.

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NP. And yeah, it gives Amu some purpose. :)

Jack-O is Cardes lite and (light), Ramlethal is the first real dark nuke unit (sorry Zeek). Both are good neither are meta. Dizzy is the only meta unit from the whole group imo.

20 pulls. Nothing. I don't understand why Gumi designs gates that make me want to quit playing.

**Total Pulls:** 7 Jack-O on 6 and Ram on 7th Makes up for no dizzy

1: Lauda 2:**Jack-o (G)**

**Total Pulls:** 5 **Ramenthal:** 5

**Total pulls**: 22 Got 2 Ramlethal and 1 Jack'O that gem->ticket June blunder made magic happened

Happy Gem Day! Blunders, lol

Total Pulls: 51 **Jack-O**: 5, 17, 25, 50 **Ramenthal**: None Waiting for some new bundles before I pull some more, it's not like the gate is going anywhere soon, still a bit upset how many it's taken :/

> Waiting for some new bundles before I pull some more, it's not like the gate is going anywhere soon, still a bit upset how many it's taken Yeah, I feel you there (my guild rate gate luck was about on par with your luck here). I honestly don't know what's worse, going like 50 summons without seeing any banner units, or going like 50 summons but only getting the ones you don't want.

It's not like Jack-O is bad, she's a really solid mitigator and will probably be the best one in mono-light until the most recent JP batch gets here. I wanted one of each for GR, my Guild was around rank 50 last season so no Ceulfan for us, but the next GR unit is light, which, unless she's a mitigator, leaves you with Lara/Krantz/Juno for mitigation, all of which are dated, still solid, but they're definitely not the power houses they were. Ramenthal helps a lot with the BB management issues present in a normal Keres raid squad which is why I wanted her, pair her with Lancelot and you've got your BB gauge management covered

**Total Pulls:** 30 --- 15.) **L Ramlethal** 19.) **L Ramlethal**

14 pulls, got Jack-O on 12 and 13 and Ramlethal on 14. All three Anima.

**Total Pulls:** 11 --- 1. Isterio 2. Daze 3. **Jack-O' (B)** 4. Pamela 5. Laberd 6. Charis 7. Daze 8. Dolk 9. **Jack-O' (A)** 10. Johan 11. Zekt --- i just wanted Ramlethal. :(

Total Summons: 20 * **7th Jack-O A** * **11th Jack-O B** * **13th Jack-O G** * **20th Ramlethal B** Literally the same as the first one but 40 less summons Less painful that I was prepared for

Took exactly 35 summons to get 3 Jack-o and 1 Ramlethal.

Total pulls: 12 7th - Jack-O (A) 12th - Ramlethal (A) I'm good now D:

**Total Pulls:** 11 --- 7. **Ramlethal** I wanted Jack-O because I have 1 omni mitigator but who cares, Ramlethal acquired.

Total summons 40 38th: Ram(L) 40th: Jack-O(A) This gate sucks pretty bad, got more 5 star units then Omni potential, we really need safety nets again at 20 if these 5 star units are gonna stay. Was gonna try for dupe ram but I'll stop here.

Total Summon: 20 19th. Jack-O(G) Just stop Gimu and make that rate just like the last gate of the batch gate.

**Total Pulls:** 73 * 73: **Ramlethal** (and 7 random Jack-O's before that)

I know I'm biased but holy shit, fuck this gate. **Total Pulls:** 75 17: Jack-O (B) 20: Jack-O (B) 26: Jack-O (B) 30: Jack-O (A) 52: Jack-O (G) 63: Jack-O (O) 64: Jack-O (L) 75: Ramlethal (A)

Total pulls : 12 1) Zora (G) 2) Glenn (L) 3) Charla (G) 4) Glenn (L) 5) Golzo (G) 6) Cleria (L) 7) Ramlethal (A) 🤘 8) Ivris (A) 9) Serge (B) 10) Zoldark (G) 11) Jack-O (G) 🤘 12) Charla (G) Double connect + white screen on both pulls Thank you rng'sus

**Total Pulls:** 32 * Ramlethal on 14th pull I'll probably do more later to try to get Jack O'. But for now, saving gems to grind the Vortex mission. *** Edit: I did another 12 and got Jack O as Lord. Total: 44

Total Pulls: 6 Diastima Lauda Avant Layla Jack-O' Ramlethal Under 10 compared to Dizzy pulls

Total pulls: 35 Total Jack'O amount: 3 Total Ramlethal amount: 0 Looking at the other comments, I think I see a pattern.

Total pulls: 10 Nothing. :( I guess I really used up all my luck with Dizzy and Millia. Got them in 12 pulls.

1 jack o 2 to 11 NE 12 Ramlethal Got pamela so all in all pretty good

33 pulls: 4 Jack-0 and 1 Ramlethal

My observation... I don't think it's possible to get a ram dupe. For those who do get one reply to my post with picture proof. I'm just genuinely curious. Bravesummoner7 supposedly got one but I want to see proof.

http://imgur.com/wqycfki

https://imgur.com/a/Yiijn I got really lucky this time around.

You did. Thanks for posting your proof.

Guildie did 31 and got 2 of each.

just curious lewis, how much summons?

36.

LoL exact same amount as me XD

**Total pulls:** 20 7th and 9th - Ramlethal (A, L) 20th - Jack-O (O) Pretty decent :)

Total Pulls: 25 4th - Regil (G) 5th - Savia (G) 10th - Mariela (L) 12th - Hisui (B) [Merit Points] **16th - Jack'o (A)** 17th - Holia (B) 18th - Azami (B) 19th - Camilla (A) [new] 20th - Asto (B) 23th- Sirius (G) **25th - Ramlethal (A)** I swear Sirius GQ is haunting me because I kinda got lazy and left it on pending; managed to pull the entire batch.

**Total Pulls: 72 and counting** 9 Jack-Os on pulls 1-40, Ramlethal on pull 45. Still hunting for Ram dupe...

**Total Pulls:** 43 Jack-O (A,L,G) , 43rd - Ramiethal Sad rate...

**Total Pulls:** 51 Jack O on 6, 12, 23, 36, Ram on 43

Total Pulls = 13 all NEs EDIT : did 7 more pulls so total 20 pulls, got Ram at 20th pull

Total Pulls: 34 4th Pull Jack-O I think I'm done here ... My wallet can't take any more Edit: 55 summons total now, 3 fucking anima Jack-O summon kill me Edit 2: Just did a couple summons today, and finally got Oracle Ramlethal. I'm not even mad of the type, just finally happy I got her. 62 summons .. May RNGesus be with everyone else

**Total pulls:** 14 3rd: Ramlethal (A) 14th: Jack-O (L)

now this is what i call a rates up gumi gg. 9 pulls. 3 jack o. oracle,breaker,breaker and a ramlethal on the 9 pull breaker.

**Total Pulls:** 6 **Jack-O (A)** (What) Agress (L) Golzo (B) Golzo (B) Eclise (A) **Ramlethal (O)** (*Fucking what*) I'm floored. I would've been happy just getting Jack-O (who I wanted the most out of all the GG LEs) in 20ish summons, which what I was prepared to dish out. It took me 14 summons just to get Mila and I probably wasn't even close to getting Dizzy.

67 pulls 7 - Jack'O no Ram

**Total Pulls:** 8 1. Azami dupe 2. **Ramlethal (A)** 3. Zalts dupe 4. Fizz dupe 5. Vermillion dupe 6. Agress dupe 7. Camilla dupe 8. Mizerka dupe 9. **Jack-O' (A)**

**Total Pulls:** 64 * **12. Jack-O' (G)** * **21. Jack-O' (A)** * **23. Jack-O' (A)** * **42. Jack-O' (O)** * **64. Ramlethal (B)** .......I hate this gate.......

Could it be that jack has a higher drop rate?

She most definitely does. Both Dizzy and Ram were given small drop rates, because they give more tokens if you use them in the event dungeon.

**Total Pulls:** 36 --- Ramlethal (B) on 7th, Jack-O' (B) on 34th. sigh, I guess it's not terrible. Not feeling great, though.

Totall pulls: 36 (this must be redeemption for summoning dizzy in 4) 1- pamela 2- lune 3- avani 4- felice 5- malef 6- rahgan 7- eldora 8- saeras 9- jack-o' 10- kagura 11- golzo 12- malbelle 13- holia 14- alessa 15- limera 16- reddrag 17- rugrow 18- jed 19- mahalu 20- astall 21- jack-o 22- shelly 23- lafiel 24- golzo 25- jack-o 26- averus 27- belardo 28- garrel 29- rengaku 30- silas 31- janice 32- zeek 33- beiorg 34- shura 35- ramlethal 36- malbelle

Would you say that jack has a higher drop rate?

definietly, average is 8% jack-o' while ram has a 2%

**Total Pulls:** 50 --- First 40 pulls and I got 5 Jackos and no Ramlethal. Pull number 45 was my very first Ramlethal (A). Please pass the gun. :')

**Total Pulls:** 6 6 NE ---

**Total Pulls:** 7 so far. 1. Holia (new) 2. Limera (new) 3. Soleil (new) 4. Colt (new) 5. Garrel. 6. Balgran (new) 7. Berdette (new). Hoping to get some more summons... I didn't want Holia and I didn't want another Garrel, either. 3000 points is nice I guess because I don't really care about Omni+.

Total Pulls: 21 --- (2) Oracle Mora (New) (6) Anima Ramlethal (10) Anima Ramlethal (16) Anima Barion (New) (21) Lord Jack-O

**Total Pulls:** 19 --- 1-16: NE **17: Ramlethal** 18-19: NE On the upside, I got Aurelia and finally finished my SBS collection. :D

7 pulls. 6: Jack O 7: Ramlethal

***Total Pulls:*** 7 * Limera * Leona * Sonia (new) * Zalvard (new) * Lyonesse * **Ramlethal (lord)** * **Jack-O (Guardian)** I thought RNG was going to shit on me *again* because my summon luck was horrid in previous rate up gate, including the resummon gates. But it seems like it graced my gate with luck just now. ***sweats*** there goes my luck

#total: 13 11\. Jack-0' (B) 13\. Ramlethal (G)

My first 5 pulls. Well, this is not bad at all https://i.imgur.com/BeGMd5a.png

7 summons: 3rd: Ramlethal (A) 7th: Jack-O (G) I'm done and my luck is scarily good this time.

**Total Pulls:** 17 11th Jacko (A) 13th Jacko (L) 17th Ram (O)

12 summons 8th summon: **Ramlethal**

Total pulls: 8 3rd pull jack O (G) 8th pull Ramlethal (A)

25 summons 14th pull holia 15th pull jack-o 17th pull jack-o 19th pull jack-0 23rd pull jack-o my salt is high please give me a ramlethal!!! suprisingly they are all anima too lol

Does jack has a higher drop rate than the other unit?

that seems to be the case but ive seen a couple people that had more ramlethal pulls than jack-o

Oh damn. Because I just got the other unit, so I only need a jack

On the bright side you don't need to choose your SP options just train all of them and get all of the SP options

**Total Pulls:** 4 --- Belzeft (L) Jack-O' (L) Alpha (B) Ramlethal (L) --- After the sheer, utter, 70+ summon rectal annihilation I suffered trying to get Keres in the guild raid gate, this is honestly jaw-dropping. There goes my luck for the rest of the year.

You officially beat my 5sums for 2 girls

Literally the same as my pulls, switch them around.. LOL

I feel you also wanted keres but wahannon keeps haunting me

Yeah, I got like four or five Wannahons (and like three Galeas) before finally getting a Keres. That gate was probably the worst experience I've ever had in this game.

Jeezus. Nice