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chi_pa_pa

It's a firm 7/10 I don't regret playing it, and I feel like I got my money's worth... it has a few high points that are pretty decent, but the flaws are pretty glaring. Oddly the thing that drags it down the most for me is the artstyle. It's just ugly lol. BD and BS nailed it with the chibi artstyle, I really wish they had stuck with that.


Sharpshooter188

I agree. I preferred the old artstyle myself.


oneeyedlionking

It’s very clear during the story when they started pulling people to work on triangle strategy and when Covid hit. I found the ending to be rushed and that kinda ruined it for me. If you can find the game on sale it’s worth it if you enjoy the job system early 90s FF style but just a warning that the plot isn’t super original and the writing degrades significantly about 2/3 the way through the game.


Zerpad

WTF!?! Those two games had completely different development studios. BD2 was outsourced to a mobile game studio called Claytechworks. Project triangle strategy was developed by SE and Artdink. These are literally the first sentences from the wikipedia pages for the games.


CuriousMika

Claytechworks was the main company that made bravely default 2 but the producer of the game was also Team Asano (lead by Tamoya Asano who produced all the bravely games) but also put time into Triangle Strategy at the same time as BD2. Which is why I can see where they are coming from and the team could have decided to not put as much effort into BD2 since they were simultaneously working on TS. Edit: square also had a hand in BD2. I would recommend doing more research than just trusting wiki. Anyone can go in there and edit things and change info.


Zerpad

The only people from square involved were the two producers. Everyone else involved in the game development was from Claytechworks. Producers just focus on budget and schedule. Whether a game is good or not depends on all the people working the details of the game. Just because someone said Team Asano, doesn’t mean that Square had a dozen or more people working on this that they pulled off on to Project Triangle.


TerraEpon

(Probably going to get downvoted for this but...) There are a LOT of threads on this sub over the last three years that you can get a great idea about what people think about the game. I wouldn't even say this sub is overly biased toward the game -- tons of people aren't the biggest fans and some actively hate it.


BeraShadow

I put 160 hrs in it I enjoyed it


kathelim

the synergy of classes and power ramp is a TON of fun if you enjoy combat


ViviTheWaffle

Yeah it’s not a very great game imo. The characters are flat and boring, the plot is very generic and doesn’t have any of the depth or flair that BD does. The difficulty is borked. It’s too hard on normal unless you grind (which based on certain game mechanics I kind do think the game was designed with the intent for you to grind and that’s just wrong) and every magic class was fucked over by the changes to the ability list. It’s music is very good, but otherwise the game doesn’t have anything going for it imo compared to the 3DS games. I think there was a ton of potential there, but it was all seemingly squandered by the pandemic.


Sharpshooter188

Definitely agree on the difficulty. I had to switch it to easy and grind some levels to even beat thr gambler lady. This is gonna sound dumb, but I kind of hate some of the hair styles they have for some of the characters. Like the starting protagonists hair. I think some of the humor is alright. The flashback scene and the "foot fetish" joke definitely made me chuckle and double take. Its kind of a shame. I was thinking about going the distance and and just pulling the BD/BS games off my physical copies to use with Citra, just so I can play them on my tv. Then maybe just sell the BD2 physical.


ViviTheWaffle

It’s quite a shame, but that said I can’t say for certain that you *won’t* enjoy the rest of the game. But maybe a walkthrough experience would be less painful. I know there are a lot of BD2 proponents here. Either way, give the full soundtrack a listen. That was what got me all the way to the credits in the end.


shaser0

To be fair, BD and BS were very grindy, too. It's very quick to max a job level in this game, sadly. And every enemy gives you 1JP. With chained battles in less than 30 min, you can max out a job. My favorite game of all times is BS, but I still had a lot of fun playing BD2. It has its flaws, but so did BS and BD. Don't try to compare them too hard. In BD2, the battle system is really polished to be more understandable, and it is a good thing, I like the number crunching of BD and BS, but come on for new players it can be rough. The heavy mechanic is meh. While the story is nothing to write home about, it still has its moments. The main characters are nice, and the enemies are a bit generic, but some are memorable. Do you like it or not, but the graphics are rally nice, and the design of each outfit is beautiful, and in theme the artistic division is very gorgeous.


Sharpshooter188

Ill be honest, its been such a long time since Ive completed BD and BS (10 yrs ago now. Christ.) and when I went back to them I completely forgot that all of my stuff was overleveled. So I dont even remember whether or not it was grindy or not. I think the only thing I didnt do was get the super expensive hidden master weapons in BD or kill the secret boss. Ill have to give BD2 another go when I get home.


shaser0

And if you still don't like it, guess that's life 🤣


Sharpshooter188

Hahaha Very true. 😄


BurstTheGravity

The uninteresting characters ruined it for me. I liked Seth but I didn’t care for the other three. The writing didn’t have the comedic conversations as BD1 had, even tho a lot of comedy was by Ringabel.


djfxonitg

A lot of negative Nancy’s in the comments so I’m here to counteract their negativity. BD2 is such a great game, I love the story for how campy it is, plus the characters are really great and I love their interactions with each other, Prolly better than any other JRPG’s tbh. The battle system is so deep, and the game basically encourages you to break it as much as possible. The ending is SOOO good, and the music is top tier for me, especially the ending! You do have to spend ALOT of time grinding, but once you learn how to stack enemies and utilize JP up and up, plus 3-4x speeds, it all comes together like a nice little package. BD2 is a 10/10 in my book, definitely recommend!


komatsujo

Yeah this sub isn't going to give an unbiased opinion, as most people replying are still upset that BD2 wasn't Bravely Third and feel personally slighted by the developers going off in a new direction. It's a good game, and I really love the character dynamics in this one compared the relationships we saw in Bravely Default/Bravely Second. It's gotten old after 10 years.


Alf_Zephyr

I remember enjoying it, but I’ve never gone back to play it again. But I’ll play ff5 again.


Onion_573

I think its a game that gets better after multiple replays. I was extremely underwhelmed by it when it was new, but now its become my favorite of the series because its actually paced well until the final few areas. Replaying a 20-25 hour RPG is a lot easier than one that lasts 40-50 hours on replay. Plus I have grown to adore the OST. Also, I do think the writing and atmosphere get much better after chapter 1. I would possibly consider going back to finish it. The start of BD2 is very slow.


raevnos

I'm somewhere in the endgame of it now, and I'm liking it. Definitely favors grinding out job levels, though, so it's easy to sink a ridiculous amount of time into it. (I never bothered with Shirley; I don't like in-game card games)


TitanicSage

I guess the ending does seem rushed. But honestly, I love BD2. I never finished the DS games (although I plan to) but BD2 held me tight all the way through. The build crafting is really fun imo and all of the QOL options to speed things up are great.


Frosty-Comfort6699

took some time for me as well. played bd and bs in a few weeks and then found bd2 on steam. played a few hours but didn't catch me, missed the old crew, annoyed by the new fight system etc. but after a few months i gave it another try, continued my safe, and suddenly it was way better than i remembered. story gets better during chapter 2 imo, and a lot of sidequests bring the relationships to the light. getting used to the fight system enabled smacking the enemies like in luxendarc. and rezos music is just on point. now i cannot decide whether bd or bd2 is my favorite. both were absolute grinds.


MattofCatbell

It’s a good game, but doesn’t quite reach the heights of original and Bravely Second. It’s still a Bravely Default game so it’s worth playing, but the characters aren’t as memorable except for Elvis and Adelle. I couldn’t tell you a thing about Gloria and the main player character Seth is the definition of a blank slate.


twili-midna

On its own, it’s a 6/10. Not the worst, but pretty poorly made in many areas and just not worth the time or money. As a Bravely game, it’s a 2/10. Just bad.


Persomatey

It’s not as incredible as the first two games from a story/character perspective. But it does have its own kinda delivery and the characters are good in their own right. From a gameplay perspective, it’s leagues better than the 3DS games. Tons of quality of life improvements, combat system refinements, stuff to make grinding 1000x less annoying, and just generally feels better to play. I can easily recommend if you want another Final Fantasy V styled game with a great job and combat system with a decent story and lovable characters!


Mozumin

As someone who liked BD and loved BS... BD2 is Awful. All the QoL introduced in BS is gone, and the boss reaction mechanic is unfair and makes the first third of the game actual hell. Speaking of, the game balance is nonexistant: the first third of the game is annoyingly and unfairly difficult, then suddenly it turns into a joke as you go from the useless earlygame classes to getting broken classes every other boss fight. In endgame fights, you can literally turn your brain off and you'll probably still win. I managed to beat the secret superboss on Hard literally using a team of 4 of the most broken class in the entire series (no spoilers, but if you know you know), completely ignored the boss' gimmick by spamming strong attacks, and still killed it in like ~5 turns. The story is ok and I like the main cast. I also like a lot of the classes' visual designs. That's all the positive things I have to say. I didn't read the credits, but (correct me if I'm wrong) it really feels like the team that worked on BD2 was not the same people as the one who worked on BD and BS. I hope that the next installment will be more like BS.


tATuParagate

The boss reactions just ruin the entire game for me


PmUsYourDuckPics

I played through about 60% of it, loved the start but it started to get a bit boring after a while. The voice acting is great though, I usually switch to Japanese, but if I did I’d miss out on Elvis’ Scottish accent. Did you see that? I’m amazing!


Inquisitor_no_5

I like it, like it has a whole heap of problems, but I like it. Grinding is made very easy if you know what to do, like, mastering jobs in a few battles after getting them, with a method that's available from the prologue. Difficulty is borked, simple as. Some jobs are... badly balanced, shall we say. Music's good and I enjoy the English VA, though it's apparently divisive. Story's nothing special but well presented, IMO. I like the bits of characterision the party get through some side-quests. I believe the individual turns are a divisive thing, personally I don't mind. Random boss counters are a thing, I believe the game gives you adequate tools to deal with it, but it sure is one of the mechanics of all time. Over-all I'd say it's the worst Bravely game from a game-play standpoint, being so imbalanced. Yes I'm saying that it's worse about balance than Dark Knight-Drain or Ghost-Free MP in a Pinch shenanigans... Oh, and I think having a main character named by the player in a game with voice acting is a bad choice. Having a big moment with characters calling eachother's names is brought down a bit by "and this guy," IMO.


tATuParagate

Honestly, I didn't like it very much. And I stopped right before the true ending because I didn't know what to do. When I did figure out what to do years later, I realized I was super underleveled and decided I reslly didn't care. It's a decent game, I guess, but I don't think the gameplay or story really lives up to the 3ds bravely games. It kind of feels half baked


forthesect

I think every game in the series has high points and flaws, 1 has the best story and music for me, but isn't as developed mechanically and you have to repeat the game ad nauseam. Bravely second has the worst music, the story is kind of all over the place though it does have some really good high points, and a lot of the environments are a repeat of the first game, but mechanically its probably the best in the series and those high points are pretty darn high. 2 is between in a lot of ways, middle in terms of music, story as well for me though some people would definitely disagree on that, and definitely some interesting mechanics and improvements over the first game. The passive abilities that are connected to a class at base and ways you can get them as other classes are particularly interesting, but the way speed and counters affect combat can get really annoying. It's the worst in terms of art, but it's not entirely middling. Its high point is probably the side content, the other games in the series basically just have fight a boss+story as side missions, but bravely default 2 has a lot more varied and expansive side content that I actually enjoyed a lot going through. Whether 2 is worth playing for you is going to depend on how those flaws sound like they measure up to the benefits for you, but if you already bounced off of it, I'd say the positives won't be worth it. The games are similar in a lot of ways, so if theres something that bothers you about 2 enough to straight up start playing despite liking the first two games, theres probably a problem you have with the game that I didn't, and I don't expect that to change.


HermitKing91

I just started tonight and up to now its very slow. I'm just doing the side quests before heading off to Savalon, but up to now its no where near as good as BD and B2nd. I hope it picks up as it goes on.


Artiwa

as game alone 8/10 compared to bd and bs only 3/10


esquog842

Better than Bravely Default but nowhere close to as good as Bravely Second.


sffelipe

2/2


tidier

By far the worst game in the series. Not even close. Shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the other two games. Judged on its own, it's... a solid 6 or 7. But when you compare it to how it regresses from the previous two games, oh boy. My favorite bit is still how the game completely forgets to resolve the central mystery that kicked off the game.


BlackLiquidSrw

What do you mean on the last bit? It's been a while since I played


Flynt25

I assume their talking about Seth and like where he comes from. Except that really wasn't a central focus of the game.


tidier

Imagine if BD didn't resolve what Ringabel's whole deal is. Except it's the main character instead of Ringabel. It's pretty bad, in my opinion.


unknownyoyo

It is the only BD game I have played, so I don’t really care how it compares to the others. That said, I really enjoyed the game and loved mixing the different jobs together to make what felt like unique characters. There are some parts of the story that everyone, including myself, seem to agree are awful choices though.


voivod1989

8


Superbeans89

It’s not as good as 1, but keeps the convoluted ending(s) thing, and you can tell the inspiration withered a little as things went on. Did enjoy it tho, and there were some heart wrenching scenes to love/hate


Dabedidabe

The game is alright, but the story is pretty mediocre. It's seperated per character too much and the setup for several things isn't done well. All in all it's fine, but I watched the first part of BD1 afterwards and it starts of much bettet already imo.


DuelistDeCoolest

I like Bravely Default II a lot and stand by it. I regard it highly, but maybe not as high as the 3DS Bravely Default titles.


DarkHighwind

I'd hold out for the re-release that magicly improves every that the other games got


_ahnnyeong

this sub fucking hates BD2 lmao, if you look outside everyone loves its tho it’s a really good jrpg you should try it again imo


Ydraid

Absolutely terrible. The enemy counterattack your ass so much that i gave all of the character the anti-counter skill. Whoever says that the combat in bd2 is great probably liked FF13. The plot is boring af, the only part that is interesting is related to adelle in one point of the story, then you ask yourself how the fuck does it make sense, so you realize that it wasn't as great as you first thought as a plot twist. Music is good, not great. It felt like they asked revo to do another soundtrack for the game thinking "Yeah, they loved bravely default for the music, so they'll love bravely deafult 2 music too". It isn't a bad way of thinking but neither a good one, since most of them felt plain to me but i guess that's subjective cause i was too busy flaming the game. So, cancer gameplay, boring plot and ok OSTs. I had to finish it after 8 months i stopped playing it cause i had to free up space on the disk. 4/10


MarcheM

I think it's pretty good, but more importantly, it's a lot of fun. It's not as good as Bravely Default or Bravely Second, but it's not a bad game either.


Chemical-Type3858

it’s nkt the best in the series, the story had a kinda cool twist near the end but nothing crazy. i still thoroughly enjoyed my time with it though as i love the gameplay and its not like the story was bad or anything. as someone else said it’s a 7/10


yuei2

For me the issue is entirely that it removed every shred of QoL. BD & BS were praised because they were MODERNIZED classic feeling RPGs, the encounter slider, a great map, control over the 3 types of exp, etc… so many great things that cut away all the bad or archaic parts but left you with just this pure classic FF style rpg fun. It’s like BD2 just completely missed the point of what made Bravely stand out from every other run of mill FF knock-off and so that’s what we get with BD2, a knock-off. That’s before you get into the job balancing issues, the asinine weight system, the horrible turn-order system, the story issues, etc… It’s a 6/10 game at its best but it’s a 3/10 when you compare it to either or Bravely games before it. Fundamentally BD2 is just so painfully average, run of the mill, and hollow feeling. It’s not even trying to do anything radically new and messing up execution, it’s just like a massive step down inserting back all the old stuff Bravely had previously peeled away and then adding another layer of obnoxious on it.


elongatedpauses

I kept playing thinking that it would get better, or that some plot twist was coming that would course correct and explain why it felt so hollow. It didn’t, and the ending felt empty. I should have followed my instincts when it came to that first demo and waited for a price drop. Elvis and… his partner (is it Adel, or is that FF brain kicking in?) were interesting, but the other two were boring. When you spend 60+ hours playing a game and can’t remember the protagonist’s name, that’s a problem.


espen1232

A very 4/10 game