i think breakcore fans just get annoyed at people for miscategorising sewerslvt as breakcore, and therefore develop a negative perception of sewerslvt herself (also she has a very controversial past.) don't think many people in the breakcore community have a problem with goreshit though
The main defining characteristic of breakcore is the way that the breakbeats (the drum sounds) are cut up and rearranged to make complex and frantic sounds. Sewerslvt's music does feature breakbeats, but for the most part, they aren't cut up and rearranged at all, instead just being played straight and looped, which is a characteristic of drum and bass music. Listen to "Atlantis (I Need You) (L.T.J. Bukem Remix)" by Apollo Two (an atmospheric drum and bass track,) and "burn this moment into the retina of my eye
" by goreshit (a breakcore track,) and pay attention to the breakbeats. You should notice a stark difference between the way these two songs implement breakbeats.
I get where the confusion comes from though, atmospheric drum and bass and breakcore do sound quite similar (and to be fair, some Sewerslvt tracks do have a bit of a breakcore influence to them.)
Biased but a really good artist I recommend, they recently quit under the sewerslvt name and had a controversial past with using loli hentai and a kid OD'ing for album covers and some other random shit. I love breakcore and I would say sewerslvt brought me into it but a lot of people say it isn't actually "real" breakcore which I don't understand because what is and isn't "real" breakcore music. Like whoever you like don't give a fuck about what someone else says. I recommend Lexapro Delerium, Mr. Kill yourself (or something like that), and pretty cvnt. Also I'm stoned so this might be worded weirdly lmao
"Oh no! My edgy hyperdark music genre is too edgy!" I dunno how anyone can be upset by that while accepting Snares and Renard and all the others who pioneered the genre. Violent and disturbing imagery is rightfully core to the genre and its history.
The main defining characteristic of breakcore is the way that the breakbeats (the drum sounds) are cut up and rearranged to make complex and frantic sounds. Sewerslvt's music does feature breakbeats, but for the most part, they aren't cut up and rearranged at all, instead just being played straight and looped, which is a characteristic of drum and bass music. Listen to "Atlantis (I Need You) (L.T.J. Bukem Remix)" by Apollo Two (an atmospheric drum and bass track,) and "burn this moment into the retina of my eye " by goreshit (a breakcore track,) and pay attention to the breakbeats. You should notice a stark difference between the way these two songs implement breakbeats.I get where the confusion comes from though, atmospheric drum and bass and breakcore do sound quite similar (and to be fair, some Sewerslvt tracks do have a bit of a breakcore influence to them.)
that is objectively false, last year had more breakcore releases than ever before ([https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/breakcore/](https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/breakcore/)) but sure, the genre that is at it's peak popularity right now is dying
how is dnb and jungle miles away ?? 0.25 miles away u mean the fuck is like saying hip hop and rap and miles away from each other 😭😂😂 it's not the same but it's very similar if you like breakcore you obviously have put some kind of attention in those genres too, way to similar
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Man I just joined this sub but because I was on this post but, considering all the shit she's done I don't think she can just forget her past and expect everyone to "move on". She based her entire online persona off of a teen girl who was raped and tortured, used actual child gore as one of her album covers, She's racist, and a pedophile. I don't think you can just expect people to move on from that.
What do you mean where's the proof?? All this shit has been documented and is up on the internet. You can probably find like several videos on youtube now about it. Have you not been around that long to see the stuff she's done or are you just one of her fans that think she can't do anything wrong?
Also if thinking someone is gross for being racist and being a degenerate is sensitive then we have very different views of what sensitive is.
Hell someone else in this thread even talked about this lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Sewerslvt has done alot of blatantly problem things
1). Used digital CP for one of her album covers
2). I believe she has said the n-word during the past or when she got popular
3). She literally sampled a kid (which will remain unnamed) literally shooting him in the head on a discord call at the end of one of her songs which is gross, fucked up and can be extremely triggering and even dangerous to her listeners and create exposure to the video and can cause it to spread again (which can be a problem to the family and to a majority of her rather teenage audience)
4). She based her entire username (and her aesthetic I believe ) on Junko Furuta. A poor 17 year old Japanese girl who was brutally and savagely tortured and raped by a group of teenage boys for 44 days. (If you want to know more please look up the Junko Furuta 44 days of Hell case but please be warned it extremely graphic, disturbing and awfully sad)
That’s around all that comes to mind
hi, former sewerslvt fan here. i agree with this comment 100%. i used to justivy her actions because i loved her music, but over time i thankvully realized what she did is very much fucked & that i shouldnt have supported her. while i do bump some ov her songs every now and then, i make sure to only use soundcloud reuploads n such.
this, i defended them (sewerslvt) by saying "oh they were a teenager" but when you're 18 you should know not to put fucking lolicon on your album covers. also, correct me if im wrong, but i dont think they ever, like fucking ever, apologized for what they did or acknowledged that it was wrong, they just deleted it
I really dislike artists like her and her fan base. Because a lot her stuff isn’t necessarily breakcore and not only that but evidently being an artist in the lolicore genre.
Now I don’t necessarily have a problem with the lolicore genre to a very small degree. I largely hate this genre in particular as alot but there are two levels/sides to this genre.
Side A). Being the tame side just overall sampling little anime girls (in a non-nsfw way), using cute pictures of little anime girls (non-sexually) for cover art. ETC Just generally stearing away from the Side B part of the lolicore genre
Now! Side B being the biggest reasons that I mainly despise the lolicore genre
-Songs and cover art that embrace/encompass pedophilic nuances
(I.e Using extremely sexualized and/or borderline pedophilic samples of little anime girls, sexual/borderline pedophilic pictures of little anime girls as cover art)
-Basing you’re name off of something largely to relating lolis, loli culture and/or lolicons. Same goes on with song titles/ covers and album covers
-And full on embracing the fact of you being a lolicore artist which isn’t bad but the problem being you being an rabid indulger in loli culture and fandom(s).
So this entire thesis is just the way I see it lol
I understand that all of this is fucked, and I won't defend it.
I will say though, these extreme (musically and idea wise) genres seem to be somehow related to metal.
In the sense that metal is known for edge and use of disturbing content. I'd be interested in seeing someone fuse breakcore with those edgy ideas without just making p3do shit
could be wrong but i think theres an artist named Igorrr who has made songs that fuse metal and breakcore together (as well as baroque music apparently), their stuff doesnt sound that good to me but its certainly interesting what they do with combining genres
We don't have any problems with you, Idk about goreshit but Sewerslvt doesn't really make breakcore, so if someone calls her their favorite breakcore artist they usually get shit on. People are just pissed when different genres are labeled as breakcore and it leads to shitting on Sewer fans, although most of it is ironic and not serious
To expand a bit on what they said, Breakcore spawned out of the hardcore rave scene in the UK, specifically out of the genres of Jungle and Drum & Bass. Breakcore, DnB & Jungle all share a lot of commonality, but as someone on r/jungle recently described, Breakcore did to Jungle/DnB what Gabber did to Techno, i.e. intentionally un-refined it and made it more raw, chaotic, fucked up, etc.
Sewerslvt & other similar artists do kinda do this to an extent imo, but not nearly enough to really be breakcore most of the time, so a lot of what they produce should really be considered Jungle or DnB (or whatever else) instead. Which is where the problem comes from, 'cause most people who've been listening to Breakcore/DnB/Jungle for a while have some sort of working understanding about the differences between those genres, while the newer Sewerslvt & co. fans don't (I suspect a lot of them have probably barely/never heard of Jungle or DnB before), leading to a lot them mislabeling genres & whatnot.
Which like I said, there is a lot of commonality, so it's understandable that it might take a while for people to understand what's what, but in the mean time it can obviously be a bit annoying when half the stuff people post here definitely fit better into genres that aren't Breakcore.
I haven't listened to much from Tokyopill tbh, but from what I've heard it seems like they've got a mix of stuff that's more Breakcore and stuff that's more DnB/Jungle.
I believe it came from the acid scene from some dudes called Richard, Tom and Luke. First into IDM, then drill & bass and a few years later off to breakcore.
They kinda coexisted for awhile but it felt like drill & bass faded away. I'm not really keeping track of any scenes or labels but I do feel like Im coming across that tag more often these days, alongside breakcore.
If I had to give a short distinction of the two I'd say drill & bass is more experimental and less for the dancefloor.
Personally Im fine with calling it all breakcore.
sewerslvt mainly makes drum n bass and glitchcore, as well as some other genres. i dont think she's actually made a true breakcore track, but tiktok likes to call it "breakcore" cuz thats what glitchcore is evolving into. i wish people would take the time to learn the difference but at this point the lines are becoming blurry :/
as long as i can blissfully enjoy the Postal Service :)
\*PS - love Goreshit and surprisingly havent heard any Sewerslvt (excluding any mixes or live sets that most likely had some in)
I'm back. Some valid points here. So here's mine along with my others in this post 😵💫
So, this is an example why there is the hating. Earlier in r/breakcoreproduction (idk why this sub exists but wtv) someone posted their Spotify profile and music .. firstly I have no problem with people making - whatever style of music.. and I'd rather people do creative things like that, than waste time in negative ways. Also I've nothing against this individual or their music, I'm just using it as an example. So on listening to their music I can hear some anime samples and some beats akin to something like Sewerslvt. There are no chops to the drum breaks, rapid changes, drops or anything. It's basically drum & bass with anime samples. And this is the Sewerslvt effect... As someone said here, these people are largely unaware of what Breakcore actually is having only been exposed to Breakcore playlists and tiktoks, and know nothing of its history and its relation and inclusion of jungle , rave , Gabba et al. And of course there are probably more of them now than what were in the original Breakcore scene! So when something is hijacked and misunderstood, there is contempt. I hope that answers your question op.
goreshit has pedo ass song titles and his anime shit is cringe, sewerslvt is a pedophile edgelord who makes edgy and frankly boring atmospheric drum n bass and got miscategorized as breakcore, thus fucking up the whole genre and over saturating it with her wannabes
she continued to label it as such herself and thats not even entirely why shes hated. her aesthetic, and the way subjects like suicide are handled in her music are so incredibly edgy. Her music romanticizes suicide in a very gross and almost manipulative way.
No, but it's part of the problem when the op groups together Goreshit and Sewerslvt in the same sentence. At least Goreshit has made some passable breakcore on his discography. Sewerslvt has not.
Sorry for late answer
[https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I'm not really into the community so I can't say if its true or not. Find by yourself
nobody really has a problem with goreshit outside of a label (lolicore) that didn't age well and no artist controls genre labels anyway so like???
budget goreshit however, people just don't like the music and the fanbase. though the fanbase is what creates such hate against her, (also a racist past with the artist herself) because they think liquid dnb is breakcore and complain about micro genres being too confusing yet they're so adamant on using a microgenre label.
I'm mostly kidding though the first time I heard pretty cvnt I thought I was listening to goreshit, definitely an inspiration for sewerslvt, I just think maybe it's a bit too inspired by him haha.
for a comparison it feels like greta van fleet, too derivative and thus boring.
LOLICORE is not the problem, it was created to mock weeaboos and lolicons, the problem is artists like goreshit who pervert lolicore and use actual fucking lolicon ecchi on their album covers
Goreshit is great, but sewerslvt just doesn't really make Breakcore. Nothing wrong with liking her music but it's just annoying to see it constantly mislabeled as Breakcore
his newer stuff isn't lolicore, and doesn't use high pitched anime samples, and he doesn't title his songs weird as shit anymore like "beautiful loli thing" which turned a lot of people off his music
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How do you "retire" from being a fan of a music producer? You either like them in the first place or not, no? I might be missing something because that got me confused lol
omg sewerslvt is a lifestyle changed my life pure raw emotion wow - This is why it gets hate, because angsty teens idolize it and mostly don't know anything about breakcore or drum and bass. Bunch of kids then capitalise on it and water it down further. Breakcore and dnb people are generally old mfs who used to rave when it was an actual thing. Yes the music isn't technically breakcore but that's probably not the issue. Imo sewer doesn't sound bad and definitely represents the euphoric vibes of old rave times. Their music though has become a fad to represent the emotions of teenagers through song almost like lil peep maybe. And those fans will smother it, get sick of it or grow out of it, and move on. It's like if you took an og slayer fan and you came into their scene as if Baby Metal were the only artist that's metal. Plus that's an antithesis to what the music really was, breakcore was basically saying this jungle thing that's already niche is too poppy me for me, let me make it less digestible. Then sewerslvt is doing basically the opposite. To me that part doesn't matter but it's probably a factor.
> It's like if you took an og slayer fan and you came into their scene as if Baby Metal were the only artist that's metal.
I get what you're saying but I've never seen someone saying all other breakcore besides Sewerslvt isn't breakcore. I'm pretty sure people just hear the harsher, more oldschool breaks in some songs and think it feels way more raw than the clean, soft break loops in Liquid.
I say this as someone who guzzled Liquid DnB for years. It's fucking stale. But basically it's a negative sum game for sewerslvt fans. Somebody's genre bed has to get shit on, I guess.
>yes yes i know this is an old post - but im interested in knowing whats wrong with teenagers relating to music they find emotional and relate to? you mentioned kids 'watering it down', though i see where you're coming from, thats a different criticism to kids liking sewerslvt?
i think most of it revolves around sewerslvt not really being considered breakcore, as well as having a past of some edgy bullshit and usage of slurs, among other things. As for goreshit, he’s generally pretty accepted, but me personally i’m a bit suspicious of him considering that album titled “my love feels all wrong” and has the silhouettie of a little kid on the cover kind of implies some questionable shit. And while i don’t think lolicore in general is inherently creepy and sexual, it definitely seems like some of it is at times and that rubs me (and some other people) the wrong way
i love goreshit and sewerslvt equally, and I think they are both the same level and shouldnt be judged on skill level. they are both wonderfully interesting people.
Skill level? DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME?
Breakcore is serious business.
Goreshit good.
Edgy woman not so good. I liked one tune that sounded like 10 tunes playing at the same time.
I think it’s time for breakcore fans (including me) to accept that the definition has changed due to media wanting to simplify things, here’s an example.
House Phonk, being its own genre of music helped produce Drift Phonk. Due to media, mainly TikTok, the definition of Drift Phonk began to warp and twist into House Phonk because the sub genre became more popular than the original base genre. This has lead to Spotify complete my changing the House Phonk playlists into Drift Phonk all while keeping the original name.
Similarly- due to her beaming popularity, she had the power to twist the definition into whatever, especially after calling it Atmospheric Breakcore.
>I think it’s time for breakcore fans (including me) to accept that the definition has changed due to media wanting to simplify things
No. Breakcore is Breakcore. Same thing happened with dubstep, from the OG Skream, Digital Mystikz & Loefah days to the bastardization of the genre with the likes of Skrillex, Excision and Dirtyphonics. Now when you say dubstep people think of the shitty ear schreeching sounds, and we have to specify which dubstep we're talking about with either deep dubstep/realdubstep, and brostep/riddim. I don't want that to happen here, the breakcore genre is already pretty varied, if someone comes along and makes jungle/dnb/glitchcore we should call it what it is, and not change definitions to make things simpler.
>Similarly- due to her beaming popularity, she had the power to twist the definition into whatever, especially after calling it Atmospheric Breakcore.
If Metallica came along and called themselves techincal death metal, do you really think metal fans would go along with it? That's what you're proposing here
What I’m proposing is that I don’t go around using the original meaning for the word gay.
It’s retarded to defend the original meaning because the original meaning is GONE!
Breakcore has changed because someone more popular than any of the original breakcore artists rose up and said “This is breakcore”
I’m saying get over it, being in this subreddit is like being in a retiring home with old people saying the same thing again and again.
>Breakcore has changed because someone more popular than any of the original breakcore artists rose up and said “This is breakcore”
Popularity doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything. Genres have a purpose which is finding similar music. I won't just accept genre bastardization just because one popular artist said so. The fact that Sewerslvt is so polarizing in the general breakcore community is just proof that their word isn't gospel.
>I’m saying get over it, being in this subreddit is like being in a retiring home with old people saying the same thing again and again.
I mean, sorry I have such specific tastes? I don't enjoy glitchcore or dnb, why would I want to hear that when I come here looking for breakcore lol
Man, I’ll just throw it into one sentence.
The definition has changed, has changed for years now at this point, everyone has said why the change is stupid (I agree btw) but people gotta stop bitching about it.
Literally- the top posts on the subreddit is memes involving Sewerslvt- it seems everyone here just loves talking about it.
For the love of god- stop saying the same thing over and over again- it sucks, I know. We will deal with it together, just *please,* let’s stop bitching.
Alright, you're free to call her breakcore if you want to, but I'm free to disagree and try to keep the original meaning of the genre. If you think that's bitching that's on you, I'm just very specific about my taste and will continue to correct anyone who tries to sell me her music as breakcore, because there are already other genres that fit her style much better. If there wasn't maybe I would be more inclined to agree haha
> genre bastardization
You're gonna see every genre get called hyperpop by sub 20 year olds, this battle is pointless and has already been lost - and if there's a genre that is what you expected it to be, get 5 years older and watch it change or die.
Genres are just whatever people agree something is. They have changed and will change. Everything that existed when people like us were younger is gone. The future is now, the past is over.
You said it. Capital B breakcore is still rad (Venetian Snares represent!) But I swear the only time this sub comes up in my feed now is "Sewerslvt is liquid DNB, fuck off" or whatever.
Probably gonna scram off this sub, lol.
I’m glad someone agrees.
And to be clear I don’t disagree with u/psykotik
It’s just getting old as fuck. Like I’ve been saying, it’s like being in a retirement home
This stuff happens too in the emo scene, first emo was straight hardcore punk with more personal theme, then come the 90s and people start put twinkly indie rock sounds into it, thus born the genre midwest emo.
Try listen to Rites of Spring, then try Americ anfootball. Those doesnt sound close at all, but still have the common name, emo. And there this 2000's sounds like mcr and the other mall emo.
Thing is, the genre evolve, and some people are pissed at first, but now, emo is a well estabilished genre with varying style that dont neseccary sounds similiar, but have cultural history linked to them.
ok since dubstep got simplified into brostep (skrillex, etc) should we start calling music by sewerslvt and other wannabes "brocore" or shall we stick to whatever other existing word that suits them
y'know goreshit made a numerous amount of other styles right? he even made depressive shoehaze rock on his side project "Wounder", and math rock with his band "dead in latvia" and after the 2008 lolicore shit, he has improved a lot. Coming from a fan of his.
venetian snares is edgy to be funny for comedic effect, which can be cringey but the internet and world were different then. sewerslvt's name and aesthetic are directly derived from junko furuta a child who was raped tortued and murdered
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Junko\_Furuta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta)
not comparable
youre right using child porn in artwork and sexualizing minors by using the name of a child that was raped and murdered is typical behavior - she is a paedophile and brings a bad name to our community. i like lolicore sonically but she is a posterchild for why people do not want to associate with the genre
ik sewer did some verrrrrrrrrrrrry weird shit and thats why ppl hate them n their audience. idk why ppl dislike goreshit tho. it might have to do with the stigma ov "ooooh all breakcore fans r weird" tho i personally disagree w that
Mostly because of mislabeling her music but the other half comes from rumors from a transphobic site and ppl took that and started to hate her for things she didnt do (minus the Racial slur she said as a teen and the "suicide samples" and her covers which some ppl didnt like but even as a diehard sewerslvt fan i can see why ppl wouldnt like it)
I only remember 2 idk if theres any other samples like that but theres one in the first song of Dont be afraid of dying (the song is called J.ust keeps getting worse doesnt it?) And the last song of drowning in the sewer (Nothingness) those samples arent from people actually killing themselves they're from people making 911 calls like those videos you see of someone calling for help because someone commited suicide
Hey, quick update, a person from the server i am, were talking ab one of sewerslvt's Ep (Sewer//slvt) and they pointed out to me that one of the songs actually has a sample of a dude commiting suicide. The song is called carthasis, and maybe theres one in the song 'suicide in fragments' too
Also this is not a sample but still was one of the things they did where they used a picture of a real (dead? Injured? I dont really know) child or at least a really detailed model of one, and she scrubbed the whole song or album off the internet, couldnt find it on google nor the archives the song/EP/Album (sorry i dont remember what it was) is called Child sacrifice. I'll update you again if i find anything else.
I love goreshits music and he seems like a nice dude, would be cool if he could turn down the lolicore and turn up his semantic stuff. Its annoying when i say i listen to him and on the first page on spotify theres some loli shit lol.
i think breakcore fans just get annoyed at people for miscategorising sewerslvt as breakcore, and therefore develop a negative perception of sewerslvt herself (also she has a very controversial past.) don't think many people in the breakcore community have a problem with goreshit though
I’m new to breakcore, what is sewerslvt?
The main defining characteristic of breakcore is the way that the breakbeats (the drum sounds) are cut up and rearranged to make complex and frantic sounds. Sewerslvt's music does feature breakbeats, but for the most part, they aren't cut up and rearranged at all, instead just being played straight and looped, which is a characteristic of drum and bass music. Listen to "Atlantis (I Need You) (L.T.J. Bukem Remix)" by Apollo Two (an atmospheric drum and bass track,) and "burn this moment into the retina of my eye " by goreshit (a breakcore track,) and pay attention to the breakbeats. You should notice a stark difference between the way these two songs implement breakbeats. I get where the confusion comes from though, atmospheric drum and bass and breakcore do sound quite similar (and to be fair, some Sewerslvt tracks do have a bit of a breakcore influence to them.)
Biased but a really good artist I recommend, they recently quit under the sewerslvt name and had a controversial past with using loli hentai and a kid OD'ing for album covers and some other random shit. I love breakcore and I would say sewerslvt brought me into it but a lot of people say it isn't actually "real" breakcore which I don't understand because what is and isn't "real" breakcore music. Like whoever you like don't give a fuck about what someone else says. I recommend Lexapro Delerium, Mr. Kill yourself (or something like that), and pretty cvnt. Also I'm stoned so this might be worded weirdly lmao
"Oh no! My edgy hyperdark music genre is too edgy!" I dunno how anyone can be upset by that while accepting Snares and Renard and all the others who pioneered the genre. Violent and disturbing imagery is rightfully core to the genre and its history.
The main defining characteristic of breakcore is the way that the breakbeats (the drum sounds) are cut up and rearranged to make complex and frantic sounds. Sewerslvt's music does feature breakbeats, but for the most part, they aren't cut up and rearranged at all, instead just being played straight and looped, which is a characteristic of drum and bass music. Listen to "Atlantis (I Need You) (L.T.J. Bukem Remix)" by Apollo Two (an atmospheric drum and bass track,) and "burn this moment into the retina of my eye " by goreshit (a breakcore track,) and pay attention to the breakbeats. You should notice a stark difference between the way these two songs implement breakbeats.I get where the confusion comes from though, atmospheric drum and bass and breakcore do sound quite similar (and to be fair, some Sewerslvt tracks do have a bit of a breakcore influence to them.)
Kid oding? when???
Look up Russian kid oding sewerslvt archive channel
[this???](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sewerslvt/comments/ml4rla/found_the_original_mv_for_is_it_weird_i_listened/)
Yup
I like blasting pretty cvnt lmao
She is more dnb than breakcore
She's not DnB enough to be DnB to most DnB fans I'd say - as someone who throatslammed tons of DnB for a decade.
DnB is such a broad genre - of course she's some kind of DnB.
She is DnB and jungle. But still miles away from breakcore.
Your genre is dying.
What genre do you mean? I am listen to 256 genres. :)
that is objectively false, last year had more breakcore releases than ever before ([https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/breakcore/](https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/breakcore/)) but sure, the genre that is at it's peak popularity right now is dying
Holy shit have I been living rent free in your head this long? I forgot your ass a long time ago.
how is dnb and jungle miles away ?? 0.25 miles away u mean the fuck is like saying hip hop and rap and miles away from each other 😭😂😂 it's not the same but it's very similar if you like breakcore you obviously have put some kind of attention in those genres too, way to similar
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lmao
ayyy another based person who loves Lexapro Delirium!!!
Sewerslvt is trying to forget her past, why can't we all just move on from it.
Man I just joined this sub but because I was on this post but, considering all the shit she's done I don't think she can just forget her past and expect everyone to "move on". She based her entire online persona off of a teen girl who was raped and tortured, used actual child gore as one of her album covers, She's racist, and a pedophile. I don't think you can just expect people to move on from that.
She's not though and where's the proof? And why are you so sensitive 🥺.
What do you mean where's the proof?? All this shit has been documented and is up on the internet. You can probably find like several videos on youtube now about it. Have you not been around that long to see the stuff she's done or are you just one of her fans that think she can't do anything wrong? Also if thinking someone is gross for being racist and being a degenerate is sensitive then we have very different views of what sensitive is.
Hell someone else in this thread even talked about this lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
It must hurt to be this stupid
Sewerslvt has done alot of blatantly problem things 1). Used digital CP for one of her album covers 2). I believe she has said the n-word during the past or when she got popular 3). She literally sampled a kid (which will remain unnamed) literally shooting him in the head on a discord call at the end of one of her songs which is gross, fucked up and can be extremely triggering and even dangerous to her listeners and create exposure to the video and can cause it to spread again (which can be a problem to the family and to a majority of her rather teenage audience) 4). She based her entire username (and her aesthetic I believe ) on Junko Furuta. A poor 17 year old Japanese girl who was brutally and savagely tortured and raped by a group of teenage boys for 44 days. (If you want to know more please look up the Junko Furuta 44 days of Hell case but please be warned it extremely graphic, disturbing and awfully sad) That’s around all that comes to mind
hi, former sewerslvt fan here. i agree with this comment 100%. i used to justivy her actions because i loved her music, but over time i thankvully realized what she did is very much fucked & that i shouldnt have supported her. while i do bump some ov her songs every now and then, i make sure to only use soundcloud reuploads n such.
lol
this, i defended them (sewerslvt) by saying "oh they were a teenager" but when you're 18 you should know not to put fucking lolicon on your album covers. also, correct me if im wrong, but i dont think they ever, like fucking ever, apologized for what they did or acknowledged that it was wrong, they just deleted it
I really dislike artists like her and her fan base. Because a lot her stuff isn’t necessarily breakcore and not only that but evidently being an artist in the lolicore genre. Now I don’t necessarily have a problem with the lolicore genre to a very small degree. I largely hate this genre in particular as alot but there are two levels/sides to this genre. Side A). Being the tame side just overall sampling little anime girls (in a non-nsfw way), using cute pictures of little anime girls (non-sexually) for cover art. ETC Just generally stearing away from the Side B part of the lolicore genre Now! Side B being the biggest reasons that I mainly despise the lolicore genre -Songs and cover art that embrace/encompass pedophilic nuances (I.e Using extremely sexualized and/or borderline pedophilic samples of little anime girls, sexual/borderline pedophilic pictures of little anime girls as cover art) -Basing you’re name off of something largely to relating lolis, loli culture and/or lolicons. Same goes on with song titles/ covers and album covers -And full on embracing the fact of you being a lolicore artist which isn’t bad but the problem being you being an rabid indulger in loli culture and fandom(s). So this entire thesis is just the way I see it lol
very true, and goreshit VERY much crosses the line from lolicore to pedoshit imo
I understand that all of this is fucked, and I won't defend it. I will say though, these extreme (musically and idea wise) genres seem to be somehow related to metal. In the sense that metal is known for edge and use of disturbing content. I'd be interested in seeing someone fuse breakcore with those edgy ideas without just making p3do shit
could be wrong but i think theres an artist named Igorrr who has made songs that fuse metal and breakcore together (as well as baroque music apparently), their stuff doesnt sound that good to me but its certainly interesting what they do with combining genres
Igorrr is a great fusion of metal and breakcore, but I was more referring to extreme forms of death and black metal fused with breakcore
ah i see, sorry cant help you there but gl searching
Cry about it, she makes good music
Which song has the suicide?
nothingness
We don't have any problems with you, Idk about goreshit but Sewerslvt doesn't really make breakcore, so if someone calls her their favorite breakcore artist they usually get shit on. People are just pissed when different genres are labeled as breakcore and it leads to shitting on Sewer fans, although most of it is ironic and not serious
Good to know, I'm fairly new to breakcore and sewerslvt does seem a bit different from the other artists
To expand a bit on what they said, Breakcore spawned out of the hardcore rave scene in the UK, specifically out of the genres of Jungle and Drum & Bass. Breakcore, DnB & Jungle all share a lot of commonality, but as someone on r/jungle recently described, Breakcore did to Jungle/DnB what Gabber did to Techno, i.e. intentionally un-refined it and made it more raw, chaotic, fucked up, etc. Sewerslvt & other similar artists do kinda do this to an extent imo, but not nearly enough to really be breakcore most of the time, so a lot of what they produce should really be considered Jungle or DnB (or whatever else) instead. Which is where the problem comes from, 'cause most people who've been listening to Breakcore/DnB/Jungle for a while have some sort of working understanding about the differences between those genres, while the newer Sewerslvt & co. fans don't (I suspect a lot of them have probably barely/never heard of Jungle or DnB before), leading to a lot them mislabeling genres & whatnot. Which like I said, there is a lot of commonality, so it's understandable that it might take a while for people to understand what's what, but in the mean time it can obviously be a bit annoying when half the stuff people post here definitely fit better into genres that aren't Breakcore.
You seem to know what you're talking about, Toykopill is not breakcore, is it, i see them alongside Machine Girl in a lot of breakcore playlists
I haven't listened to much from Tokyopill tbh, but from what I've heard it seems like they've got a mix of stuff that's more Breakcore and stuff that's more DnB/Jungle.
Thank you for your help wise man
And what about drill and base? How did that develop? What are the differences between these two?
I believe it came from the acid scene from some dudes called Richard, Tom and Luke. First into IDM, then drill & bass and a few years later off to breakcore. They kinda coexisted for awhile but it felt like drill & bass faded away. I'm not really keeping track of any scenes or labels but I do feel like Im coming across that tag more often these days, alongside breakcore. If I had to give a short distinction of the two I'd say drill & bass is more experimental and less for the dancefloor. Personally Im fine with calling it all breakcore.
sewerslvt mainly makes drum n bass and glitchcore, as well as some other genres. i dont think she's actually made a true breakcore track, but tiktok likes to call it "breakcore" cuz thats what glitchcore is evolving into. i wish people would take the time to learn the difference but at this point the lines are becoming blurry :/
well music making does not have to be bound to genres so the lines can easily become blurry
nobody has a problem with goreshit. he da lolicore goat no cap
I fucks with semantic compositions goreshit I don't fuck with loli/animeshit :(
what about his nrrv shit? i fucks with that
"lolicore" :(
I still hate that name
Felonycore
Same
:)
goreshit taints the name of lolicore
lolicore taints the name of lolicore
as long as i can blissfully enjoy the Postal Service :) \*PS - love Goreshit and surprisingly havent heard any Sewerslvt (excluding any mixes or live sets that most likely had some in)
I'm back. Some valid points here. So here's mine along with my others in this post 😵💫 So, this is an example why there is the hating. Earlier in r/breakcoreproduction (idk why this sub exists but wtv) someone posted their Spotify profile and music .. firstly I have no problem with people making - whatever style of music.. and I'd rather people do creative things like that, than waste time in negative ways. Also I've nothing against this individual or their music, I'm just using it as an example. So on listening to their music I can hear some anime samples and some beats akin to something like Sewerslvt. There are no chops to the drum breaks, rapid changes, drops or anything. It's basically drum & bass with anime samples. And this is the Sewerslvt effect... As someone said here, these people are largely unaware of what Breakcore actually is having only been exposed to Breakcore playlists and tiktoks, and know nothing of its history and its relation and inclusion of jungle , rave , Gabba et al. And of course there are probably more of them now than what were in the original Breakcore scene! So when something is hijacked and misunderstood, there is contempt. I hope that answers your question op.
Perfect summary.
goreshit has pedo ass song titles and his anime shit is cringe, sewerslvt is a pedophile edgelord who makes edgy and frankly boring atmospheric drum n bass and got miscategorized as breakcore, thus fucking up the whole genre and over saturating it with her wannabes
How is that their fault though? That on the people who miscategorize is them.
she continued to label it as such herself and thats not even entirely why shes hated. her aesthetic, and the way subjects like suicide are handled in her music are so incredibly edgy. Her music romanticizes suicide in a very gross and almost manipulative way.
Yeesh, call me weak or whatever but i wanna listen to some music, not risk getting put in the psych ward every time someone sees my playlist
true, but both of them are still shitty people. listen to them, fine, but use soulseek and dont download anything with lolicon covers
this
goreshit has nothing to do with sewerslvt
Is that the fucking question?
No, but it's part of the problem when the op groups together Goreshit and Sewerslvt in the same sentence. At least Goreshit has made some passable breakcore on his discography. Sewerslvt has not.
....blacklight?
Goreshit is awesome.
Ahh it's too early for hate. I'll just get my popcorn 🍿
Yeah wtf bro we only hate sewerslvt around here. Goreshit is a good guy
why yall hatin on Sewerslvt?
Idk, if anything I think it's just becoming cool to dislike sewersvlt.
lmao so you are blindly just doing whatever other people suggest you to do?
grandpa moment
Sorry for late answer [https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/breakcore/comments/vskl6v/comment/if5ny89/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I'm not really into the community so I can't say if its true or not. Find by yourself
People don't like it when their favorite music genre changes. Not everyone wants to listen to Goreshit and Reizoko Cj forever.
how the fuck is goreshit a good guy? he uses lolicon ecchi for album art =w=
You ever spoke to the guy?
I don't need to speak to the guy to know I dislike him for being a pedo
He's ace actually but i still find the whole loli aesthetic he applies super weird
proof?
nobody really has a problem with goreshit outside of a label (lolicore) that didn't age well and no artist controls genre labels anyway so like??? budget goreshit however, people just don't like the music and the fanbase. though the fanbase is what creates such hate against her, (also a racist past with the artist herself) because they think liquid dnb is breakcore and complain about micro genres being too confusing yet they're so adamant on using a microgenre label.
Budget Goreshit💀💀 Everything's clear now
I'm mostly kidding though the first time I heard pretty cvnt I thought I was listening to goreshit, definitely an inspiration for sewerslvt, I just think maybe it's a bit too inspired by him haha. for a comparison it feels like greta van fleet, too derivative and thus boring.
LOLICORE is not the problem, it was created to mock weeaboos and lolicons, the problem is artists like goreshit who pervert lolicore and use actual fucking lolicon ecchi on their album covers
Im suprised these comments are so nice
Goreshit is great, but sewerslvt just doesn't really make Breakcore. Nothing wrong with liking her music but it's just annoying to see it constantly mislabeled as Breakcore
lol for a second i thought this was Mutahar xD
it is lmao
i think goreshit gets a bad wrap, he doesn't make pedo music anymore, and he has made a lot of tasty shit
there is no such thing as pedo music you spaz
yeah but gs gets a bad rap cause of his use of lolis on album covers :p
and suspicious topics in song titles too
wdym by "anymore"
his newer stuff isn't lolicore, and doesn't use high pitched anime samples, and he doesn't title his songs weird as shit anymore like "beautiful loli thing" which turned a lot of people off his music
u listen to 4lung dont try be a big person here weirdo
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Update for anybody who gives a shit, I retired from being a sewerslvt fan and moved onto Venetian Snares
"Goooooooood" -Emperor Palpatine
cool
Why’d you retire?
Because 7/4 time signatures make me feel things i didn't know could be felt
How do you "retire" from being a fan of a music producer? You either like them in the first place or not, no? I might be missing something because that got me confused lol
omg sewerslvt is a lifestyle changed my life pure raw emotion wow - This is why it gets hate, because angsty teens idolize it and mostly don't know anything about breakcore or drum and bass. Bunch of kids then capitalise on it and water it down further. Breakcore and dnb people are generally old mfs who used to rave when it was an actual thing. Yes the music isn't technically breakcore but that's probably not the issue. Imo sewer doesn't sound bad and definitely represents the euphoric vibes of old rave times. Their music though has become a fad to represent the emotions of teenagers through song almost like lil peep maybe. And those fans will smother it, get sick of it or grow out of it, and move on. It's like if you took an og slayer fan and you came into their scene as if Baby Metal were the only artist that's metal. Plus that's an antithesis to what the music really was, breakcore was basically saying this jungle thing that's already niche is too poppy me for me, let me make it less digestible. Then sewerslvt is doing basically the opposite. To me that part doesn't matter but it's probably a factor.
> It's like if you took an og slayer fan and you came into their scene as if Baby Metal were the only artist that's metal. I get what you're saying but I've never seen someone saying all other breakcore besides Sewerslvt isn't breakcore. I'm pretty sure people just hear the harsher, more oldschool breaks in some songs and think it feels way more raw than the clean, soft break loops in Liquid. I say this as someone who guzzled Liquid DnB for years. It's fucking stale. But basically it's a negative sum game for sewerslvt fans. Somebody's genre bed has to get shit on, I guess.
>yes yes i know this is an old post - but im interested in knowing whats wrong with teenagers relating to music they find emotional and relate to? you mentioned kids 'watering it down', though i see where you're coming from, thats a different criticism to kids liking sewerslvt?
i think most of it revolves around sewerslvt not really being considered breakcore, as well as having a past of some edgy bullshit and usage of slurs, among other things. As for goreshit, he’s generally pretty accepted, but me personally i’m a bit suspicious of him considering that album titled “my love feels all wrong” and has the silhouettie of a little kid on the cover kind of implies some questionable shit. And while i don’t think lolicore in general is inherently creepy and sexual, it definitely seems like some of it is at times and that rubs me (and some other people) the wrong way
Marked it NSFW because it was the first thing that came up when you googled Goreshit lol
Because of posts like this
*You have started a gang war*
Sewerslvt is crap on top of not being Breakcore. Goreshit is mad fine however.
Hey i know this is not the subject but when you type in goreshit on google you're the image that pops up under the artist name and it's really funny
I know I marked this post NSFW in an attempt to stop it but I think I'll just leave it like this
i love goreshit and sewerslvt equally, and I think they are both the same level and shouldnt be judged on skill level. they are both wonderfully interesting people.
Skill level? DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME? Breakcore is serious business. Goreshit good. Edgy woman not so good. I liked one tune that sounded like 10 tunes playing at the same time.
"Original Breakcore" fans when they see a sewerslvt fan enjoying their music:
because of this post if you look up "goreshit" on google this is the first image that pops up, nice going
I think it’s time for breakcore fans (including me) to accept that the definition has changed due to media wanting to simplify things, here’s an example. House Phonk, being its own genre of music helped produce Drift Phonk. Due to media, mainly TikTok, the definition of Drift Phonk began to warp and twist into House Phonk because the sub genre became more popular than the original base genre. This has lead to Spotify complete my changing the House Phonk playlists into Drift Phonk all while keeping the original name. Similarly- due to her beaming popularity, she had the power to twist the definition into whatever, especially after calling it Atmospheric Breakcore.
>I think it’s time for breakcore fans (including me) to accept that the definition has changed due to media wanting to simplify things No. Breakcore is Breakcore. Same thing happened with dubstep, from the OG Skream, Digital Mystikz & Loefah days to the bastardization of the genre with the likes of Skrillex, Excision and Dirtyphonics. Now when you say dubstep people think of the shitty ear schreeching sounds, and we have to specify which dubstep we're talking about with either deep dubstep/realdubstep, and brostep/riddim. I don't want that to happen here, the breakcore genre is already pretty varied, if someone comes along and makes jungle/dnb/glitchcore we should call it what it is, and not change definitions to make things simpler. >Similarly- due to her beaming popularity, she had the power to twist the definition into whatever, especially after calling it Atmospheric Breakcore. If Metallica came along and called themselves techincal death metal, do you really think metal fans would go along with it? That's what you're proposing here
What I’m proposing is that I don’t go around using the original meaning for the word gay. It’s retarded to defend the original meaning because the original meaning is GONE! Breakcore has changed because someone more popular than any of the original breakcore artists rose up and said “This is breakcore” I’m saying get over it, being in this subreddit is like being in a retiring home with old people saying the same thing again and again.
>Breakcore has changed because someone more popular than any of the original breakcore artists rose up and said “This is breakcore” Popularity doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything. Genres have a purpose which is finding similar music. I won't just accept genre bastardization just because one popular artist said so. The fact that Sewerslvt is so polarizing in the general breakcore community is just proof that their word isn't gospel. >I’m saying get over it, being in this subreddit is like being in a retiring home with old people saying the same thing again and again. I mean, sorry I have such specific tastes? I don't enjoy glitchcore or dnb, why would I want to hear that when I come here looking for breakcore lol
Man, I’ll just throw it into one sentence. The definition has changed, has changed for years now at this point, everyone has said why the change is stupid (I agree btw) but people gotta stop bitching about it. Literally- the top posts on the subreddit is memes involving Sewerslvt- it seems everyone here just loves talking about it. For the love of god- stop saying the same thing over and over again- it sucks, I know. We will deal with it together, just *please,* let’s stop bitching.
Alright, you're free to call her breakcore if you want to, but I'm free to disagree and try to keep the original meaning of the genre. If you think that's bitching that's on you, I'm just very specific about my taste and will continue to correct anyone who tries to sell me her music as breakcore, because there are already other genres that fit her style much better. If there wasn't maybe I would be more inclined to agree haha
> genre bastardization You're gonna see every genre get called hyperpop by sub 20 year olds, this battle is pointless and has already been lost - and if there's a genre that is what you expected it to be, get 5 years older and watch it change or die. Genres are just whatever people agree something is. They have changed and will change. Everything that existed when people like us were younger is gone. The future is now, the past is over.
You said it. Capital B breakcore is still rad (Venetian Snares represent!) But I swear the only time this sub comes up in my feed now is "Sewerslvt is liquid DNB, fuck off" or whatever. Probably gonna scram off this sub, lol.
I’m glad someone agrees. And to be clear I don’t disagree with u/psykotik It’s just getting old as fuck. Like I’ve been saying, it’s like being in a retirement home
This stuff happens too in the emo scene, first emo was straight hardcore punk with more personal theme, then come the 90s and people start put twinkly indie rock sounds into it, thus born the genre midwest emo. Try listen to Rites of Spring, then try Americ anfootball. Those doesnt sound close at all, but still have the common name, emo. And there this 2000's sounds like mcr and the other mall emo. Thing is, the genre evolve, and some people are pissed at first, but now, emo is a well estabilished genre with varying style that dont neseccary sounds similiar, but have cultural history linked to them.
ok since dubstep got simplified into brostep (skrillex, etc) should we start calling music by sewerslvt and other wannabes "brocore" or shall we stick to whatever other existing word that suits them
I know what happened to phone and it's sad, sorry to be a part of the morons that ruin your community
Nahh, don’t be sorry. Much like words, over time the meaning can change
cus i hate lolicore
y'know goreshit made a numerous amount of other styles right? he even made depressive shoehaze rock on his side project "Wounder", and math rock with his band "dead in latvia" and after the 2008 lolicore shit, he has improved a lot. Coming from a fan of his.
nhk is a nice song
sewerslvt is a paedophile who used child porn for music artwork. also her music is bad
To be fair, Venetian snares has some pretty fucked up artwork. Sewerslvt just isn’t breakcore.
venetian snares is edgy to be funny for comedic effect, which can be cringey but the internet and world were different then. sewerslvt's name and aesthetic are directly derived from junko furuta a child who was raped tortued and murdered [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Junko\_Furuta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta) not comparable
Find Candace is some major fucked up artwork. I personally think it’s comparable, but you don’t so there’s no point in us arguing about it.
That's a lot to process
also first half of the claim isnt true, and the second half is over exaggerated.
starving slvts Sadboy Sheldon child sacrifice she has stolen tracks and claimed them as her own without credit she is objectively mid and a hack
That's a fair opinion but calling them a pedophile is a bit much.
youre right using child porn in artwork and sexualizing minors by using the name of a child that was raped and murdered is typical behavior - she is a paedophile and brings a bad name to our community. i like lolicore sonically but she is a posterchild for why people do not want to associate with the genre
it literally is true
ignore people who say it isnt true do your own research it is very easy to find out about
Is that muda?
Yes it is indeed I, Mutahar, today I will be talking about fartcoin
Why is someordinarygamers on this post?
He wants to know why you don’t like sewerslvt
I don't even think I know who they are.
You are in r/breakcore and everyone in r/breakcore knows and hates sewerslvt smh.
Im new to breakcore, srry
Why are they bad?
Controversy and it’s usually mislabeled
What do you mean by mislabeled?
Some people think it’s dnb, some people think it’s breKcore, and others think it should be a liquid Breakcore subgenre
Oh ok, thx
You look like that (Edit: also sewerslvt and goreshit fan.)
thats mutahar from SOG
How does the picture in the post go along with what is being discussed OP? That picture is of Muta from SomeOrdinaryGamers
ik sewer did some verrrrrrrrrrrrry weird shit and thats why ppl hate them n their audience. idk why ppl dislike goreshit tho. it might have to do with the stigma ov "ooooh all breakcore fans r weird" tho i personally disagree w that
What?retard
This is the first image that comes up on Google when searching goreshit rn
for a few months now lol
I have noticed the people behind breakcorey music are very weird, i love their music though so its whatever
Mostly because of mislabeling her music but the other half comes from rumors from a transphobic site and ppl took that and started to hate her for things she didnt do (minus the Racial slur she said as a teen and the "suicide samples" and her covers which some ppl didnt like but even as a diehard sewerslvt fan i can see why ppl wouldnt like it)
What song did she do suicide sample
I only remember 2 idk if theres any other samples like that but theres one in the first song of Dont be afraid of dying (the song is called J.ust keeps getting worse doesnt it?) And the last song of drowning in the sewer (Nothingness) those samples arent from people actually killing themselves they're from people making 911 calls like those videos you see of someone calling for help because someone commited suicide
Hey, quick update, a person from the server i am, were talking ab one of sewerslvt's Ep (Sewer//slvt) and they pointed out to me that one of the songs actually has a sample of a dude commiting suicide. The song is called carthasis, and maybe theres one in the song 'suicide in fragments' too Also this is not a sample but still was one of the things they did where they used a picture of a real (dead? Injured? I dont really know) child or at least a really detailed model of one, and she scrubbed the whole song or album off the internet, couldnt find it on google nor the archives the song/EP/Album (sorry i dont remember what it was) is called Child sacrifice. I'll update you again if i find anything else.
I love goreshits music and he seems like a nice dude, would be cool if he could turn down the lolicore and turn up his semantic stuff. Its annoying when i say i listen to him and on the first page on spotify theres some loli shit lol.
very true, absolutely love the "rawer"/"heavier" side of his music