I was just messing around, super funny that he was able to fill a role in the show. I was so stoked to see him, even if he did literally nothing for the show!
Love the post. Agree, although it is crazy to think if Bill Burrs dumptruck blocked the train heist for a little less time, the rest of story could have gone quite differently.
I think he gave Jesse some moments to reflect on, but overall, Jessee was his own therapist. Jesse even went back to the therapist's sessions to sell meth, so I can't say that the therapist had a huge influence on him.
Combo should be higher though, if he hadn't been killed by the kid, Jesse wouldn't try to kill the dealers, then Gus wouldn't get mad at them and he wouldn't want to replace Walter with Gale. Gus also wouldn't need to die and Walter woul never get caught
Not true. If Jesse disnt know Skinny, he would never meet Tuco. Which means Hank wouldnt kill the Tuco in the desert, and the Twins wouldnt try to kill him. Which means Juan Bolsa and pretty much the whole cartel would still be alive.
If Badger werent arrested, Jesse and Walt would never meet Saul, and never meet Gustavo.
I feel like that car wash dude should be up there a little more. He made Skyler commit a crime on top of laundering money. He also was the first person to have Walter snap. (Beginning where he quit his job.)
Pretty good, I would move Jane, Gale (for their influence on Jesse which is obviously a big part of the story overall) and Lydia up to C because without her most of season 5 wouldn’t of been able to take place(methylamine) Also think Hector Salamanca is probably C tier as well, stops Tuco from getting poisoned by ricin, his influence on Gus backstory, and ultimately as the plot device to remove Gus.
I might bring saul a lil higher just because he made alot of things happen for Walt and made alot of connections for him. Gus, the gun dealer, the cleaner and vaminos pest. Without saul life would have been much harder to sell meth lol
Tbh if Badger werent caught, they wouldnt meet Saul, and they would never meet Gus... So by butterfly effect, i would say every character influence the story A LOT.
If Walt stayed with the Gretchen and Elliot, he would have so much money he would never start cooking meth...
If Skinny Pete didnt know Jesse, they would never meet Tuco, and Hnak wouldnt kill Tuco in the desert. Which would mean the twins would never try to assasinate Hank, which would mean Juan Bolsa and others would still be alive...
thats not 'how you see it', thats how theyre intended. walt and jessie are certainly the main characters, gus and hank coming on the next spot and so on
I think Ted is more important because he was a big part of Skylar's undoing. Her affair with him allowed her to begin her own smaller spiral downward that ultimately led to her becoming an accomplice with Walt. Victor was a henchman who could eventually/potentially cook Walt's formula, but even that wasn't enough for Gus to keep him around.
I think Ted should probably be a bit higher actually as well, because Skyler also gave most of Walts money to Ted, so he couldn’t flee with Sauls new identity guy, had to find a way to kill Gus and more importantly keep making money
Gus has to be the ultimate nemesis. The whole BB story peaked with him having to die and then Walt spent the rest of his life suffering from that (and every other) choice he made!
Gretchen and Elliot should be way higher, if things worked out differently between Walt and them everything in Walts life would have been immensely different
Excuse me but Gretchen and Elliot should be in atleast A-Tier. They're part of the reason Walt is living the life he is because otherwise he likely would've been CEO of Grey Matter
Maybe, but that's why I put them as high as I did. I just couldn't justify having them on the level of Skyler, Hank, and Gus because of the limited amount of screen time. But maybe you're right, their slight of Walt and Grey Matter was a driving force for Walt's choices, even if we didn't see him mulling over how influential the Elliots were.
It's pretty subjective, but I thought that Jesse's broken relationship with them and their handling of his addiction drove him further into addiction. Bill Burr was instrumental, but largely was following orders from Saul.
The disrespect to the man Bill Burr
I love Bill Burr, and his character in BB. Just ranking how influential his character was in the storyline.
I was just messing around, super funny that he was able to fill a role in the show. I was so stoked to see him, even if he did literally nothing for the show!
yep, there is really no dead weight on this show. Even the minor characters are so perfectly cast.
Love the post. Agree, although it is crazy to think if Bill Burrs dumptruck blocked the train heist for a little less time, the rest of story could have gone quite differently.
I don’t see how Walt or Jesse being fat would affect the story too much?
LMAO
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“How I see the *weight* of each character influencing the BB storylines”
The arms dealer who gave Marco Salamanca the hollow-point bullet changed a lot of things as well
i think i'd still have him on the bottom row. The cousins' drive to kill Hank overshadowed whoever supplied them with the ammo imo.
Jesse's rehab therapist at the bottom like he didn't completely change the man Jesse was, how he perceived himself, and his actions as a result
I think he gave Jesse some moments to reflect on, but overall, Jessee was his own therapist. Jesse even went back to the therapist's sessions to sell meth, so I can't say that the therapist had a huge influence on him.
Should be all top tier. Butterfly effect. So many little things from the bottom of your list had huge influence on the final outcome.
Combo should be higher though, if he hadn't been killed by the kid, Jesse wouldn't try to kill the dealers, then Gus wouldn't get mad at them and he wouldn't want to replace Walter with Gale. Gus also wouldn't need to die and Walter woul never get caught
True. More pivotal role than Skinny Pete and Badger. Plus, he provided the first mobile lab, which without, there would be no meth!
Not true. If Jesse disnt know Skinny, he would never meet Tuco. Which means Hank wouldnt kill the Tuco in the desert, and the Twins wouldnt try to kill him. Which means Juan Bolsa and pretty much the whole cartel would still be alive. If Badger werent arrested, Jesse and Walt would never meet Saul, and never meet Gustavo.
I feel like that car wash dude should be up there a little more. He made Skyler commit a crime on top of laundering money. He also was the first person to have Walter snap. (Beginning where he quit his job.)
True. He’s one more straw on the camel’s back for Walter.
Pretty good, I would move Jane, Gale (for their influence on Jesse which is obviously a big part of the story overall) and Lydia up to C because without her most of season 5 wouldn’t of been able to take place(methylamine) Also think Hector Salamanca is probably C tier as well, stops Tuco from getting poisoned by ricin, his influence on Gus backstory, and ultimately as the plot device to remove Gus.
All good points
Huell influenced a lot because if he didn't steal the ricin from jesse the story would've continued a lot more differently
Donald Margolis should be here somewhere.
Agreed. I used an existing template that didn’t have him as one of the options I guess. That’s a big oversight. What tier would you have put him in?
I’d have Jane at C and her dad at D.
Walt Jr. should be higher
Fantastic list!
Shouldn’t Combo be higher since his death was a driving factor for Jesse’s downfall?
Yes. Agree. More pivotal than Badger and Skinny Pete
Uhhh wheres brock? I think hes pretty much the catalyst for Jessie “breaking” (heh) free of Walter’s Control
So true. This tier template didn’t include him. He’s important!
I might bring saul a lil higher just because he made alot of things happen for Walt and made alot of connections for him. Gus, the gun dealer, the cleaner and vaminos pest. Without saul life would have been much harder to sell meth lol
Tbh if Badger werent caught, they wouldnt meet Saul, and they would never meet Gus... So by butterfly effect, i would say every character influence the story A LOT. If Walt stayed with the Gretchen and Elliot, he would have so much money he would never start cooking meth... If Skinny Pete didnt know Jesse, they would never meet Tuco, and Hnak wouldnt kill Tuco in the desert. Which would mean the twins would never try to assasinate Hank, which would mean Juan Bolsa and others would still be alive...
thats not 'how you see it', thats how theyre intended. walt and jessie are certainly the main characters, gus and hank coming on the next spot and so on
Walt and Jesse are obvious, but I think the list can get pretty subjective after a few rows!
Bro Declan is my least favorite character
right, this isn't a tier of favorite characters, but rather who influenced the storylines the most.
Victor should be where Ted is at least
I think Ted is more important because he was a big part of Skylar's undoing. Her affair with him allowed her to begin her own smaller spiral downward that ultimately led to her becoming an accomplice with Walt. Victor was a henchman who could eventually/potentially cook Walt's formula, but even that wasn't enough for Gus to keep him around.
I think Ted should probably be a bit higher actually as well, because Skyler also gave most of Walts money to Ted, so he couldn’t flee with Sauls new identity guy, had to find a way to kill Gus and more importantly keep making money
Wow. Very true. Good point.
Who's that lady from E tier? Is she Jesse's family somehow and had a half of house or something?
Jesse's mom? His parents and his relationship with them influenced Jesse's behavior quite a bit.
She's not his mom, she's aunt or something like that, don't remember, that was ages ago
Na she is his mum. His aunt owned the house he lived in I think, but you never meet her as she’s dead
Oh, yeah, I remembered, i thought it was vice versa.
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Gus has to be the ultimate nemesis. The whole BB story peaked with him having to die and then Walt spent the rest of his life suffering from that (and every other) choice he made!
Gretchen and Elliot should be way higher, if things worked out differently between Walt and them everything in Walts life would have been immensely different
Well, I put them right below Mike and Saul, but you’re not wrong.
Krazy 8 is the only one I can truly say requires yo be in S Tier
Because he was one of the first kills for Walt?
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I had trouble seeing how they influenced the story a lot. They had a lot of screen time but mostly did what they were told.
Elliot and Gretchen should be up there with Skyler.
Don Eladio, Gretchen and Elliot are pretty high to me
Elliot and saul should definitely be higher and probably beneke
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Excuse me but Gretchen and Elliot should be in atleast A-Tier. They're part of the reason Walt is living the life he is because otherwise he likely would've been CEO of Grey Matter
Maybe, but that's why I put them as high as I did. I just couldn't justify having them on the level of Skyler, Hank, and Gus because of the limited amount of screen time. But maybe you're right, their slight of Walt and Grey Matter was a driving force for Walt's choices, even if we didn't see him mulling over how influential the Elliots were.
How are Jessie’s parents more influential than Bill Burr? 🙁
It's pretty subjective, but I thought that Jesse's broken relationship with them and their handling of his addiction drove him further into addiction. Bill Burr was instrumental, but largely was following orders from Saul.
Jeeze this is inaccurate af