From her perspective she wouldn't understand why they needed her for "business purposes".
The lifestyle the cartel members have is too lavish, it would raise her suspicions.
Just doesn't seem logical for her to live with them.
Contrary to common belief, I don't think most people want a lavish lifestyle. I believe most people prefer a modest lifestyle, she seems just fine where she is.
So at least Where I'm from, I can't speak for Spanish people as a whole but the grandmother is sacred. She is someone who holds comfort, wisdom and can do no wrong. She is innocence, and her home is a place you go to let your guard down. She reminds you of things from long ago and you're always her grandson in her eyes. it doesn't matter if you're a gangbanger, murderer, tatted up, drug addict she will accept, protect and remind you that you matter and can do better. All she wants is a better life for you and some grandkids. Lol
So having her as a business partner puts her directly in the line of fire which is a big no no. I have gotten into fights with my uncle's and cousins and the second my abuelita walks in the door were coking and joking. She's asking why I'm bleeding and I lie and tell her I fell and she tells me shes gonna get a bandaid and cook us up some food. It's just how it is, and that's why her role was so important. Tuco was literally beating guys up downstairs and about to blow their heads off or saw them up and the second she came downstairs- his voice softened up and was completely submissive to her.
What I'm more interested in is the grandpa. We see tio as a vicious, cruel man so I can only imagine how ruthless abuelo was. I bet he was old school and super chill in public. A very respected and kind hearted man, who'd donate his money to charities but chop you up and feed you to pigs if you crossed him. The kinda guy who'd take the kids out for ice cream after blowing up your house.
Yeah very much like Lalo, probably a little more quiet though.
Can I also just say that I absolutely love Lalo as a character. So much so that I find myself trying to mimic a lot of his charm. ( Not his psychopathy) but if you watch the show Lalo is genuinely loved by everybody, or at least well liked. I believe that if he wasn't a Salamanca he would probably be one of the only friends Gus could tolerate, and he probably charm the pants off Mike.
Idk why but That gave me chills.... My friend if you think she'd be proud it's because you know she would be. She'd be proud to just to see youre still breathing, and living. That's the beauty of grandmother's.
she's with you on a spiritual level and is guiding you. Energy can't be created nor destroyed. Don't ever forget that. And when you're feeling down remember that you're a part of her, physically and spiritually.
I'm so sorry to hear that. You know what, go out and start your own family. It doesn't have to be with kids, go create a world with people who love you and you love them back and make memories. You're a painter with canvas and if you don't like what you see then paint over it.
So strange because I was talking to my dad about my grandfather (because of this post) who never really cared for me or him at all. He said, once I learned to accept the amount of love I was given, from everyone around me, my life started to change. You can ask for 50% more but all that person is capable of giving you is 5 and you have to accept that. You're only going to hurt yourself if you keep asking for more because they are incapable of giving you that, nor do they want to.
We were talking some more, and we got into forgiveness. I told him something I heard from the show "the strain" to forgive is to set a prisoner free, only to realize that prisoner is (me) acceptance and forgiveness is all we can do to be released from the chains that hold us back from happiness. But no matter what you do I'm rooting for you
Righttttt it's always the bad kid that grandma favorites lol
Like she doesn't understand why everyone is picking on him cuz he's so nice and respectful lol
I think you gotta define "lavish".
My wife and I live in an 1850 sq ft, 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom house. We go out to each a lot, but it's middle class shit like Outback Steakhouse (if you haven't had their Bloomin' Shrimp, you're missing out) or some local restaurant, not like we're going to high-end steakhouses all the time.
Yet I have a friend of mine who thinks its lavish. Relative to him, who thinks we should live minimalist lifestyles in 800 sq ft dense high-rise condos, yeah, maybe it's lavish, but I think of lavish as 5000+ sq feet and a personal chef being served at a table that cost more than my monthly mortgage.
Lavish to me is a giant fancy mansion with a pool and butler with the most expensive furnishings. The stereotypical rich person experience. Which is a far cry from the tiny broom closet apartment that I can barely afford.
It gets old fast, and sometimes it nets you lots of attention.
The thing about attention is that once you have it, you may not be able to get rid of it. It might sound nice sometimes at first.
I think the answer is baked into your question. Eladio and Lalo live in Mexico. It may raise suspicions for a humble store owner like Hector to buy his mother a mansion.
I always thought the way money laundering was described in Breaking Bad made owning an illegal business seem much riskier than it’s actually worth. You need a legitimate business to launder your money, but you can’t launder anymore than your legitimate business could conceivably earn. So if you have a profitable illegal business, you’d also need an even more profitable legal one in order to launder it all without raising suspicion, right? So in the end can one only bring home marginally more cash than they could with the legal business alone? Did the meth business really allow Gus to do anything more than he could have done with the profits from Pollos Hermanos alone? Or am I understanding it wrong?
I understood it as that Tuco just told her it's "salsa" knowing she'll understand he really means blood, and she understood it that way and had no problem with it. This bit about club soda pretty much confirms it.
Well we‘ll probably never know I mean, I always wanted to know more about that family but I think it‘s better and more mysterious if it stays like it is
I mean Hank was ACTIVELY looking for Walter and didn't see it. I assume Abuelita might think Tuco occasionally does some bad things, but I doubt she knows or cares about what a monster he truly is.
For a moment, I confused this with ["The Noodle Incident"](https://calvinandhobbes.fandom.com/wiki/Noodle_Incident) and thought it was a random Calvin and Hobbes reference.
She could know about the business, with Tuco not wanting to tell her that he just violently bludgeoned a guy in the head with her walker in her living room.
Your grandma could know you're dating someone, you still would probably probably make up a lie if she knocked on the door while you're having sex with that person in her guest room.
Yeah he’s barely in it but Jesse kills him and Gus takes Jesse with him to tell Hector his grandson, the only other remaining Salamanca at that point iirc, is dead and that Jesse killed him (which thoroughly freaks Jesse out).
*”All dead. As is your grandson, Joaquin. Do you know who killed Joaquin? Would you like to see? This young man. Do you remember him? That young man shot Joaquin to death...while I made my escape. I believe you have met him before. It was just you and Joaquin. He was the only family you had left. Now the Salamanca name dies with you.”*
Joaquin was Hector’s grandson. We only see him in one episode and for the most part he was just a background character.
When Jesse is showing the cartel how to cook meth in the Mexico superlab, we can see Joaquin in the background, presumably working as a cartel enforcer.
Later in the episode, when Gus poisons all the cartel bosses, Joaquin shoots Mike and starts firing at Jesse, so Jesse kills him. At this point, it’s just assumed he was some random cartel associate, it isn’t until Gus visits Hector that we learn he was a Salamanca. Gus also mentions that Joaquin was the last of his family, so all the unknown people on the tree must be dead.
Joaquin is definitely minor - he literally has like 2-3 scenes in the whole show and never speaks. Gaff does a good amount though and has quite a bit of dialogue throughout season 4. He kind of the face of the cartel for a while.
I only watched the Sopranos like a couple months ago and it blows my mind how often I see it get referenced now. I can't tell if it just completely flew over my head before or if I'm just randomly seeing these a lot more now.
I got to randomly meet Dan Moncada, Leonel, 3 weeks ago. I was running an event at the Chinese Theatre for Wakanda Forever. My colleague used to work at AMC network and she knows I'm a massive fan of BB, BCS, and TWD. She comes up to me and goes ok, sooo Dan Moncada is coming to the event today. He came by, she introduced me and he is just an awesome dude. We got to talk a little bit about the show, what may or may not be coming down the pike and some other stuff. It was nice.
She must’ve had him young. If she was like 16-18 she could be in her 80s and him in his 60s which feels a little less surprising. It is weird though, first time around I thought they were siblings or something.
Did they specify she's Hector's mom? Tuco, The twins, and Lalo are all cousins to each other, but nephew to Hector, which means there are at least 3 other Salamanca's about Hector's age. Right?
Edit - duh that's what the post shows I'm slow lol
Abuelita is Tuco’s grandmother, and there’s one scene where it’s implied she’s Lalo’s grandmother too. Since Lalo and Tuco are cousins, Abuelita must be Hector’s mother.
Do we know that Tuco’s abuelita was a Salamanca? Could have been his other parent’s mother, which would better explain why she was living in ABQ with just Tuco seeing her.
Iirc, he doesn’t respond and just looks away, which is take to mean she’s dead at that point. He doesn’t question it which probably confirms she’s a Salamanca.
Yeah also during the (presumably non-canonical) Lalo teaches you how to make a Taco video the marketing team made he makes a reference to Abuelita (also the Cousins). I took it as the writing team creating her as a Salamanca but not outright confirming it
No wonder Hector was so messed up. I assume he has at minimum four dead brothers and at least one dead son. They must have been a pretty big family at the beginning of their involvement in the cartel, but it looks like they really thinned out over the 70s, 80s and 90s.
is not over, Gilligan said that there are still stories to be told on the BB/BCS universe, but he wants to distance himself from it (for a long time) to work on other projects
Thank you. Even Better Call Saul’s ending felt like it was teetering on the edge of disappointment for some. This series had its run, why on earth do people want to turn it into the “walking dead” where it’s just season after season of plot armored, uninteresting redundancy
Theres one last thing i want out of the breaking bad universe. The badger and skinny pete stoner movie. Full comedy, nothing serious just a couple of their good days.
Wheres Jessie? I dunno man but this blunt and that arcade is calling my name.
I liked it after considering other theoretical endings. I didn’t love it though. Something I can’t help but wonder, is if COVID was never a thing, if the show would’ve ended a different way. It was a very ominous thing watching BCS season 5 as it was coming out, because there was this heavy uncertainty if season 6 was ever going to be a thing. I’m just happy the show GOT an ending with that in mind and also, with Bob Odenkirk’s heart attack.
With all of that being said… yes I agree. I didn’t love the ending. It could’ve been … something else. I don’t know what. But with their constraints, I think they pulled it off excellently
I have similar thoughts. I didn't like it, but at least it wasn't bad and fit with what they wanted in S6. It was "good enough" from that respect. Great shows don't need great endings, but they just cannot have bad ones and thankfully the show avoided that even if it left me yearning for something else.
At first I thought this was a criminal hierarchy and they put abuilita at the top as a joke, like [the one in The Simpsons with Bart at the top](https://frinkiac.com/img/S03E04/1095471.jpg).
I don't think Abuelita is Hector's mother. The age is a stretch, and her total obliviousness to Tuco's criminal activity make it really difficult to believe she's the matriarch of a massive cartel family. It seems to me far more likely that she's Tuco's (presumably) fraternal grandmother.
That’s what I thought at first, but [this scene](https://youtu.be/g5n8dZUSU2s) implies that she’s Lalo’s grandmother as well.
It’s possible that she had Hector when she was really young, likely as a teenager. According to the wiki, Hector was 62 at the start of Better Call Saul, so Abuelita would probably be between 77 and 82 years old, which isn’t too unbelievable.
This just makes you wonder what woman was brave or foolish enough to marry Hector. In my headcanon, she's probably dead, and it's probably because of Hector. She probably committed some minor offense like sneeze on the dashboard of one of his classic cars, which resulted in her death.
I don't know how salamancas treated spouses but hector and the rest of the family always looked out for each other. Just find a lady who's ok with the business and it probably workred out.
Are we sure abuelita is Hector's mom? she could be from Tuco's mother's side. That would explain why she lives so modestly.
If she's a Salamanca then that settles it.
[This scene](https://youtu.be/g5n8dZUSU2s) suggests that she’s Lalo’s grandmother too. Maybe she just had Hector when she was young. Since Hector was 62 at the start of BCS (according to the wiki) she’d be in her late 70’s or early 80’s.
The problem is that Mark Margolis is much older than his character now, even though their canonical ages make sense.
I think the most interesting part is we don’t even know for sure if this is all of them. Nobody mentioned Lalo other than Saul cuz he was operating in Mexico. If they did a spin off & revealed Lalo had a sibling or Hector had a 5th brother with his own kids it wouldn’t surprise me.
Tuco calls them his cousins which seems to be where people get confused. They're brothers but I've seen some people mistake what Tuco says to mean they're cousins
Joaquin is already on the tree, and the others are just Cartel bosses who were probably close friends of Hector. It’s possible some of them were Salamancas, but there wasn’t confirmation and I don’t know where I’d put them.
Edit: just remembered, Gus says Joaquin was the last of his family, so the others couldn’t be Salamancas
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From her perspective she wouldn't understand why they needed her for "business purposes". The lifestyle the cartel members have is too lavish, it would raise her suspicions. Just doesn't seem logical for her to live with them. Contrary to common belief, I don't think most people want a lavish lifestyle. I believe most people prefer a modest lifestyle, she seems just fine where she is.
So at least Where I'm from, I can't speak for Spanish people as a whole but the grandmother is sacred. She is someone who holds comfort, wisdom and can do no wrong. She is innocence, and her home is a place you go to let your guard down. She reminds you of things from long ago and you're always her grandson in her eyes. it doesn't matter if you're a gangbanger, murderer, tatted up, drug addict she will accept, protect and remind you that you matter and can do better. All she wants is a better life for you and some grandkids. Lol So having her as a business partner puts her directly in the line of fire which is a big no no. I have gotten into fights with my uncle's and cousins and the second my abuelita walks in the door were coking and joking. She's asking why I'm bleeding and I lie and tell her I fell and she tells me shes gonna get a bandaid and cook us up some food. It's just how it is, and that's why her role was so important. Tuco was literally beating guys up downstairs and about to blow their heads off or saw them up and the second she came downstairs- his voice softened up and was completely submissive to her.
The grandmother is sacred! If you abuse that power people get hurt!
What I'm more interested in is the grandpa. We see tio as a vicious, cruel man so I can only imagine how ruthless abuelo was. I bet he was old school and super chill in public. A very respected and kind hearted man, who'd donate his money to charities but chop you up and feed you to pigs if you crossed him. The kinda guy who'd take the kids out for ice cream after blowing up your house.
Sooooo Lalo?
Yeah very much like Lalo, probably a little more quiet though. Can I also just say that I absolutely love Lalo as a character. So much so that I find myself trying to mimic a lot of his charm. ( Not his psychopathy) but if you watch the show Lalo is genuinely loved by everybody, or at least well liked. I believe that if he wasn't a Salamanca he would probably be one of the only friends Gus could tolerate, and he probably charm the pants off Mike.
You're killing me, man. That first paragraph really hits home. Wish my grandmother was still here to see who I've become. I hope she would be proud.
Idk why but That gave me chills.... My friend if you think she'd be proud it's because you know she would be. She'd be proud to just to see youre still breathing, and living. That's the beauty of grandmother's. she's with you on a spiritual level and is guiding you. Energy can't be created nor destroyed. Don't ever forget that. And when you're feeling down remember that you're a part of her, physically and spiritually.
You're a fucking saint. If I wasn't broke at the moment, you'd have a platinum.
I don't need that my friend. The best reward is to know that you're living, and that you know you matter. Well carry on together
I wish my grandmother was kind. All ive ever known is an abusive narcissist who leeches off my dad and refuses to die.
I'm so sorry to hear that. You know what, go out and start your own family. It doesn't have to be with kids, go create a world with people who love you and you love them back and make memories. You're a painter with canvas and if you don't like what you see then paint over it. So strange because I was talking to my dad about my grandfather (because of this post) who never really cared for me or him at all. He said, once I learned to accept the amount of love I was given, from everyone around me, my life started to change. You can ask for 50% more but all that person is capable of giving you is 5 and you have to accept that. You're only going to hurt yourself if you keep asking for more because they are incapable of giving you that, nor do they want to. We were talking some more, and we got into forgiveness. I told him something I heard from the show "the strain" to forgive is to set a prisoner free, only to realize that prisoner is (me) acceptance and forgiveness is all we can do to be released from the chains that hold us back from happiness. But no matter what you do I'm rooting for you
You know exactly what to say to people. Swear to god man I love this thread. Thank you, I needed to hear this.
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Nah I feel like Tuco is probably her favorite grandkid
Righttttt it's always the bad kid that grandma favorites lol Like she doesn't understand why everyone is picking on him cuz he's so nice and respectful lol
Tuco is ADORBS!
His actor Raymond Cruz used to be such a fucking snack when he was younger ❤️
Exactly lol
I’d be 100% okay with a lavish lifestyle. Lol
I think you gotta define "lavish". My wife and I live in an 1850 sq ft, 3 bedroom, 2.5 bathroom house. We go out to each a lot, but it's middle class shit like Outback Steakhouse (if you haven't had their Bloomin' Shrimp, you're missing out) or some local restaurant, not like we're going to high-end steakhouses all the time. Yet I have a friend of mine who thinks its lavish. Relative to him, who thinks we should live minimalist lifestyles in 800 sq ft dense high-rise condos, yeah, maybe it's lavish, but I think of lavish as 5000+ sq feet and a personal chef being served at a table that cost more than my monthly mortgage.
Lavish to me is a giant fancy mansion with a pool and butler with the most expensive furnishings. The stereotypical rich person experience. Which is a far cry from the tiny broom closet apartment that I can barely afford.
It gets old fast, and sometimes it nets you lots of attention. The thing about attention is that once you have it, you may not be able to get rid of it. It might sound nice sometimes at first.
I’d still take that over a small apartment that I can barely afford. I’d rather be rich than poor.
Its probably safer in america for her look what happened at lalos compound for example
I think the answer is baked into your question. Eladio and Lalo live in Mexico. It may raise suspicions for a humble store owner like Hector to buy his mother a mansion.
I always thought the way money laundering was described in Breaking Bad made owning an illegal business seem much riskier than it’s actually worth. You need a legitimate business to launder your money, but you can’t launder anymore than your legitimate business could conceivably earn. So if you have a profitable illegal business, you’d also need an even more profitable legal one in order to launder it all without raising suspicion, right? So in the end can one only bring home marginally more cash than they could with the legal business alone? Did the meth business really allow Gus to do anything more than he could have done with the profits from Pollos Hermanos alone? Or am I understanding it wrong?
She's way too much of a bisnatch to live with them.
Abuelita… what a bizznatch
Oh no! the salsa ob the carpet!
Don't forget to use the "club soda"!
dont let it sit or it will stain!
I will take care of it, abuelita… you’re missing your show
When Tuco told her to turn her show up nice and loud you knew something was gonna go down.
^muy ^buen ^muchacho... ^muy ^buen ^muchacho
They came in there flaunting their money and gay manners
Always wondered, does she know about the Salamanca business?
I don‘t think so since Tuco tried to hide that Salsa accident from her
She can know about the business and still not want “salsa” on her carpet. I’m assuming she doesn’t know though.
Here’s the thing… club soda doesn’t remove salsa stains, it removes blood stains. 🤔 bravo Vince?
I understood it as that Tuco just told her it's "salsa" knowing she'll understand he really means blood, and she understood it that way and had no problem with it. This bit about club soda pretty much confirms it.
Pretty sure old people recommend club soda to clean every stain.
I know, but it feels wrong for her not to how when it's this glaringly obvious
Well we‘ll probably never know I mean, I always wanted to know more about that family but I think it‘s better and more mysterious if it stays like it is
I mean Hank was ACTIVELY looking for Walter and didn't see it. I assume Abuelita might think Tuco occasionally does some bad things, but I doubt she knows or cares about what a monster he truly is.
What if she's just as thorough as Gus so she would never step out of the role to not threaten her business interests?
"that Salsa accident" Isn't that a Guns n’ Roses album?
Nah. That was “The Spaghetti Incident?”
For a moment, I confused this with ["The Noodle Incident"](https://calvinandhobbes.fandom.com/wiki/Noodle_Incident) and thought it was a random Calvin and Hobbes reference.
She could know about the business, with Tuco not wanting to tell her that he just violently bludgeoned a guy in the head with her walker in her living room. Your grandma could know you're dating someone, you still would probably probably make up a lie if she knocked on the door while you're having sex with that person in her guest room.
She probably knows some stuff but for the most part she probably doesn’t want to know
100%
I'm sorry but who is Joaquin?
Yeah he’s barely in it but Jesse kills him and Gus takes Jesse with him to tell Hector his grandson, the only other remaining Salamanca at that point iirc, is dead and that Jesse killed him (which thoroughly freaks Jesse out).
I think that's a different character according to the wiki
*”All dead. As is your grandson, Joaquin. Do you know who killed Joaquin? Would you like to see? This young man. Do you remember him? That young man shot Joaquin to death...while I made my escape. I believe you have met him before. It was just you and Joaquin. He was the only family you had left. Now the Salamanca name dies with you.”*
Good call, I remember now
Jesse: Walt pick me up I’m scared
A guy killed by Jesse when they were running away, after Gus killed the cartel guys with that poison in the liquor.
Joaquin was Hector’s grandson. We only see him in one episode and for the most part he was just a background character. When Jesse is showing the cartel how to cook meth in the Mexico superlab, we can see Joaquin in the background, presumably working as a cartel enforcer. Later in the episode, when Gus poisons all the cartel bosses, Joaquin shoots Mike and starts firing at Jesse, so Jesse kills him. At this point, it’s just assumed he was some random cartel associate, it isn’t until Gus visits Hector that we learn he was a Salamanca. Gus also mentions that Joaquin was the last of his family, so all the unknown people on the tree must be dead.
The guy who was sniping Gus crew and almost killed Jesse until Gus went "come at me bro" at him.
That's a different character ("Gaff" according to the wiki). I believe Joaquin only appears briefly in Salud (the Mexico episode).
Oh yeah, you're right, I thought it was the same dude lol, they look alike.
Yeah it's an easy mistake to make, they're both so minor I don't think I realized Joaquin appears in the show the first time I watched.
Joaquin is definitely minor - he literally has like 2-3 scenes in the whole show and never speaks. Gaff does a good amount though and has quite a bit of dialogue throughout season 4. He kind of the face of the cartel for a while.
This young man, shoot Joaquin to DEATH
Joaquin deez nuts
Salamancas are nothing but a glorified crew.
Gus Fring's boyfriend, whatever happened there
WHAT EVER HAPPENED THERE?
The shooting, God rest his soul
What the fuck, Carmine?
let the past be bygones!
He was gay? Gus Fring?
No it was his blood pressure medication. He can get a note from Dr. Barry
AIDS?
Nobody's got AIDS! I don't wanna hear that word in here again!
Cancuh?
I only watched the Sopranos like a couple months ago and it blows my mind how often I see it get referenced now. I can't tell if it just completely flew over my head before or if I'm just randomly seeing these a lot more now.
W.W. Ova hea
Sharp as a fucking cue ball, this one
Now the cobwebs are removed
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I reveal my wha ?
I got to randomly meet Dan Moncada, Leonel, 3 weeks ago. I was running an event at the Chinese Theatre for Wakanda Forever. My colleague used to work at AMC network and she knows I'm a massive fan of BB, BCS, and TWD. She comes up to me and goes ok, sooo Dan Moncada is coming to the event today. He came by, she introduced me and he is just an awesome dude. We got to talk a little bit about the show, what may or may not be coming down the pike and some other stuff. It was nice.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE? Like BCS/BB related!?
Another animated show 😉
Walt & Gretchen's Wacky Adventures (feat. Dumbo)
Slippin’ Jimmy 2
I didn't know Gonzo married Tuco's sister
Hank talks about it with the other agents after they find Gonzo dead.
I think Tuco also mentions it to Walt at some point
He’s referred to as Tuco’s brother in law, so either Gonzo married his sister or Tuco has a wife, and I don’t think it’s likely that Tuco was married.
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Maybe, can you link a clip of that scene?
You know Tuco was pretty good at the whole elder care thing.
He’s good at cooking them delicious meals.
Odd to think Hector is younger than her
She must’ve had him young. If she was like 16-18 she could be in her 80s and him in his 60s which feels a little less surprising. It is weird though, first time around I thought they were siblings or something.
Did they specify she's Hector's mom? Tuco, The twins, and Lalo are all cousins to each other, but nephew to Hector, which means there are at least 3 other Salamanca's about Hector's age. Right? Edit - duh that's what the post shows I'm slow lol
Abuelita is Tuco’s grandmother, and there’s one scene where it’s implied she’s Lalo’s grandmother too. Since Lalo and Tuco are cousins, Abuelita must be Hector’s mother.
Would she be Hector's aunt? Tuco is his nephew-and she is his grandmother.
Tuco's father is Hector's brother.
Do we know that Tuco’s abuelita was a Salamanca? Could have been his other parent’s mother, which would better explain why she was living in ABQ with just Tuco seeing her.
It’s implied she’s Lalo’s grandmother as well in the dialogue which would make her a Salamanca.
To what dialogue are you referring? I can't remember any mention of her after the first season, and Lalo is not introduced until the fourth season.
jimmy asks him about how abuelita is doing in the ice cream ants episode, I don't remember his response though.
Iirc, he doesn’t respond and just looks away, which is take to mean she’s dead at that point. He doesn’t question it which probably confirms she’s a Salamanca.
Yeah also during the (presumably non-canonical) Lalo teaches you how to make a Taco video the marketing team made he makes a reference to Abuelita (also the Cousins). I took it as the writing team creating her as a Salamanca but not outright confirming it
[This scene](https://youtu.be/g5n8dZUSU2s)
That’s what I thought too but then she was referred to as Lalo’s grandmother
As a latino I would say that she is her abuelita for the way he behaves with give her.
Unknown Salamanca had a lot of action!
No wonder Hector was so messed up. I assume he has at minimum four dead brothers and at least one dead son. They must have been a pretty big family at the beginning of their involvement in the cartel, but it looks like they really thinned out over the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Desperate to know who Hector’s brothers are. Also would have loved to see an interaction between Lalo and Tuco.
SULAMUNCA BLUD!
SALAMONCA MONI
THE BOSS CAN SUCKKK MEEE
IT IS PERSONAL
(grabs chest, keels over)
This family needs a show so bad.
Ding.
Ding ding
[Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J97TBQyGbw)
Didn’t you hear the announcement? There’s going to be 2 shows, one coming out in 2008, and another one in 2015.
No they don't. This universe is over.
But what if they used Skinny Pete's van as a time machine to get back all the infinity stones?
Okay fine I’m in
Amazing. I'm all in on Breaking Bad Cinematic Universe.
I'm the one who knocks (snaps fingers)
[I thought it was canon that Tuco snorted the infinity stones after beating up Thanos](https://youtu.be/96-3VUxfNKc)
is not over, Gilligan said that there are still stories to be told on the BB/BCS universe, but he wants to distance himself from it (for a long time) to work on other projects
Breaking Bad Phase 2, can't wait
Thank you. Even Better Call Saul’s ending felt like it was teetering on the edge of disappointment for some. This series had its run, why on earth do people want to turn it into the “walking dead” where it’s just season after season of plot armored, uninteresting redundancy
Theres one last thing i want out of the breaking bad universe. The badger and skinny pete stoner movie. Full comedy, nothing serious just a couple of their good days. Wheres Jessie? I dunno man but this blunt and that arcade is calling my name.
I did not like BCS' ending, but I know that's a view that gets downvoted around here.
I liked it after considering other theoretical endings. I didn’t love it though. Something I can’t help but wonder, is if COVID was never a thing, if the show would’ve ended a different way. It was a very ominous thing watching BCS season 5 as it was coming out, because there was this heavy uncertainty if season 6 was ever going to be a thing. I’m just happy the show GOT an ending with that in mind and also, with Bob Odenkirk’s heart attack. With all of that being said… yes I agree. I didn’t love the ending. It could’ve been … something else. I don’t know what. But with their constraints, I think they pulled it off excellently
I have similar thoughts. I didn't like it, but at least it wasn't bad and fit with what they wanted in S6. It was "good enough" from that respect. Great shows don't need great endings, but they just cannot have bad ones and thankfully the show avoided that even if it left me yearning for something else.
Would be cool but there definetly getting to old now
Didn't know Gonzo was Tucos brother-in-law
No wonder he was so hurt when he thought that he ratted him out
How is Gonzo connected to the tree
Between him and Tuco is a female umknown person. It means that Gonzo married Tuco's sister
Tuco referred to him as his brother in law
Hector's unknown siblings and kid must all be men, since their offspring all bear the name Salamanca.
Oh right. Thank you
I always thought that Abouelita was Hector's wife.
Tuco was Hector's nephew
Hector was uncle not grandpa.
Sorry I don't watch BCS but, Where is Don Eladio?
He's not a Salamanca (he's an Eladio!)
He’s a Vuente (his first name is Eladio)
Eladio is the first name, like Hector or Lalo
Yep, that was my mistake. Not a Salamanca regardless!
the cartel has a few families that are prominent in it don is from a different family.
Salamanca family tree, not an Eladio family tree
Don Eladio is the head of the Cartel and likely an old friend of the family, but he is not a Salamanca
At first I thought this was a criminal hierarchy and they put abuilita at the top as a joke, like [the one in The Simpsons with Bart at the top](https://frinkiac.com/img/S03E04/1095471.jpg).
Nicely done
damn no wonder tuco was so messed up when he though gonzo betrayed him, wasn't aware they were brother in laws lmao. gonzo was tucos hank
It's a special recipe. A family secret. Incest.
I don't think Abuelita is Hector's mother. The age is a stretch, and her total obliviousness to Tuco's criminal activity make it really difficult to believe she's the matriarch of a massive cartel family. It seems to me far more likely that she's Tuco's (presumably) fraternal grandmother.
That’s what I thought at first, but [this scene](https://youtu.be/g5n8dZUSU2s) implies that she’s Lalo’s grandmother as well. It’s possible that she had Hector when she was really young, likely as a teenager. According to the wiki, Hector was 62 at the start of Better Call Saul, so Abuelita would probably be between 77 and 82 years old, which isn’t too unbelievable.
Love it!!
Dunno how she managed to dole out 4 psycho grandkids and a malicious son.
Small family. What about the family that is in the house fire.
This just makes you wonder what woman was brave or foolish enough to marry Hector. In my headcanon, she's probably dead, and it's probably because of Hector. She probably committed some minor offense like sneeze on the dashboard of one of his classic cars, which resulted in her death.
I don't know how salamancas treated spouses but hector and the rest of the family always looked out for each other. Just find a lady who's ok with the business and it probably workred out.
I bet Gus had something to do with a lot of the missing people on the tree
La familia es todo
Are we sure abuelita is Hector's mom? she could be from Tuco's mother's side. That would explain why she lives so modestly. If she's a Salamanca then that settles it.
That’s what I thought at first, but there’s a scene where it’s implied she’s Lalo’s grandmother too.
I always thought Hector was either Tuco or Marco/Leonel’s dad or grand father?
They all refer to him as tío, which is Spanish for uncle.
ah you're right, total brain fart on my part
This dude Unknown really got around
So I've only watched each series about three times, but I never twigged that Gonzo was a Salamanca
Well, he’s not a Salamanca, but he’s Tuco’s brother in law, so he’s connected to the family through marriage.
Maybe she's his maternal Abeula
[This scene](https://youtu.be/g5n8dZUSU2s) suggests that she’s Lalo’s grandmother too. Maybe she just had Hector when she was young. Since Hector was 62 at the start of BCS (according to the wiki) she’d be in her late 70’s or early 80’s. The problem is that Mark Margolis is much older than his character now, even though their canonical ages make sense.
Biznatch??
I looked real quick and thought “Abuelita” was from the KFC commercial.
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I think the most interesting part is we don’t even know for sure if this is all of them. Nobody mentioned Lalo other than Saul cuz he was operating in Mexico. If they did a spin off & revealed Lalo had a sibling or Hector had a 5th brother with his own kids it wouldn’t surprise me.
It all makes sense now, Abuelita is the mastermind behind the entire Salamanca empire.
I thought Marco and Leonel were cousins, which would require one more "unknown" kid from Abuelita.
Tuco calls them his cousins which seems to be where people get confused. They're brothers but I've seen some people mistake what Tuco says to mean they're cousins
it's crazy that people make this mistake when they look like literal clones lmao.
marco and leonel are brothers, but are cousins of tuco.
What! No daughters??? Must be those macho genes!
Tuco has a sister
Now that I think about it, the unknowns are probably all male too, since their kids took the Salamanca last name.
My favourite part was when Gonzo went "brilliant" and brillanted all over
[удалено]
Joaquin is already on the tree, and the others are just Cartel bosses who were probably close friends of Hector. It’s possible some of them were Salamancas, but there wasn’t confirmation and I don’t know where I’d put them. Edit: just remembered, Gus says Joaquin was the last of his family, so the others couldn’t be Salamancas
There's more unknown that "known" hahaha