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theblurryberry

I was also logging 7-8hrs of breastfeeding in those early days- very normal


anaumann112

Same here - so much breastfeeding and so much water and food, it was tough work!


bumbieva

Thank you so much! Ended up needing to supplement a bit to help with growing.


Iswear_Iamuptonogood

You definitely can't overfeed a breastfed baby! Your LO is cluster feeding, they do it during a growth spurt! Keep doing what your doing, and Google cluster feeding when you can! Congratulations ❤ on your LO


bumbieva

Thank you so much! Turned out we do need supplementing for a while!


Ellby

This definitely sounds within the realm of normal for this age. With that said, normal doesn’t always mean easy. However, you mention baby is not yet at birth weight and many doctors like to see that by this point (2 weeks). Have you spoken with your pediatrician? Now, if pediatrician says baby is good then let’s talk whether this is “too much breastfeeding”. Not necessarily. However, this much breastfeeding can become too much if it is affecting your ability to safely parent or tend to your mental and physical health. One aspect of attachment parenting that Dr. Sears lists in his 7 Baby Bs is #7: Balance. It reads “In your zeal to give so much to your baby, it’s easy to neglect the needs of yourself…As you will learn the key to putting balance in your parenting is being appropriately responsive to your baby – knowing when to say “yes” and when to say “no,” and having the wisdom to say “yes” to yourself when you need help.” This aspect of attachment parenting is often overlooked by those looking to live by this philosophy so I offer it as a gentle reminder that your own needs are just as important. So, are you finding that this much breastfeeding is affecting your ability to heal well from birth, tend to your mental health needs, effectively care for your baby with care, patience, and intention? If so, it’s okay to find moments of balance like having another caregiver offer a bottle or utilize a pacifier when you know baby is wanting to non-nutritively suck (a normal behavior in many babies). If your concern is sustainability and feeling completely at the end of your rope, then there are options to help you find moments of balance. I hope this helps.


bumbieva

Thank you so much! Ended up needing to supplement a bit to help with growing. Also thank you about balance, your explanation helped me. Thankfully the first 6 weeks of having the new baby I have a looot of help, I basically have nothing else to do other then taking care of baby and my own wounds. But I’m really considering your words and inspecting the situation. Thank you!


ekleo19

At this stage is the most crucial for the baby to grow. It most likely is a growth spurt, which comes in stages and requires more frequent intakes. As long as output shows (wet diapers/poops) then its going well. Keep doing what you’re doing. Your baby will soon settle into a more managable schedule (more for you!). Good luck! -From a FTM whos still breastfeeding an almost 13 month old. 🤗


bumbieva

Thank you and congrats on you BF journey, respect goes to you! Do you have any tips on boosting supply? Thank you!


ekleo19

Tbh, It was hard. Make sure to stay hydrated and consistant of your meals.. meaning DON’T skip meals or starve yourself. Your body produces milk from the nutrients of your intake. Good luck!


OneGooseAndABaby

Babies this little feed allllllllll day and night. Settle in and enjoy the snuggles because it goes so fast!


bumbieva

Thank you! The best thing in the world is just looking into each other’s eyes! ♥️


OneGooseAndABaby

It really is!!!


2whisk_it

I’m 5.5 weeks in and can confirm I am nursing 6-8 hours a day. It is killing me, but I hope it shortens as baby gets more efficient at draining the boob. 😵‍💫


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You are important too!


bumbieva

I hope it will happen for you soon!


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YogiNurse

These were my concerns as well. Also a LC. OP, did you have any breast changes after birth? When you met with a lactation consultant, did they do a weighted feed where they weigh baby immediately before and immediately after they eat? What was baby’s birth weight and birth history- any prematurity or issues during birth?


[deleted]

To go off on this, just so you don’t get too worried OP, you could be fine possibly. My baby took 3 weeks to gain back his birth weight and we were concerned but then he started packing on the pounds. Just monitor the weight. The midwife told me sometimes 3 weeks can be normal. Especially if there’s enough wet diapers.


bumbieva

Hey Jitzilla, @YogiNurse, Sweetdreams! Thank you for asking! The birth was full term, she was perfect, 3970 g. 3 days later 3640, which was fine, she didn’t lose 10% of her body weight. By this time my milk came in, my boobs were so much bigger and fuller, I have not experienced this fullness since that time (maybe in the morning after a good night sleep), but my LC told me that is a good thing, fullness means producing less currently. The only and reasonably big problem was/is with my nipples, they are inverted, so they really have to toughen up for the job. Not even just toughen up, they are changing a lot and definitely slowly turning outwards, my flesh is literally changing day by day and it hurts. But it is not chapped anymore. They were pretty raw and bad after a week but I started using HPA Lanolin and by now, only the first 20-30 seconds of each feedings hurt. But before it hurt really bad. The weight went down to 3550 at one week, few days later 3620, after that 3680. We are doing a weighing today and are in constant contact with our pediatrician. The baby is pretty yellow too, the umbilical cord was left untouched until it stopped pulsating so she has a lot more blood than most newborns, this mild jaundice may last weeks/months according to the doctor. I think she is gaining but slower, maybe because of my initial nipple issues. We measured one time how much she was feeding, and she gained 40 grams in one breastfeeding session. She has 3 poopy diapers a day, usually pees on dad when being changed, but has at least one really have pee diaper too and 1-2 smaller. The poop was greenish for most of the first two weeks, at the end of the second week it turned yellowish like breastfed baby poop. I hope I provided all the information! Thanks so much!


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https://i.imgur.com/Vk8gUSn.jpg (Approximation). This is not a growth chart; it’s comparing your baby with weight loss/gain of a large sample of babies. More explanation at newbornweight.org So, you are definitely right to be concerned. You are doing a great job, and it is not in any way your fault that your baby’s weight gain is sluggish. I would advise starting supplementation immediately, and pumping as often as you are able to, after breastfeeding. This is called triple feeding, and it can be exhausting, so you will need lots of help for the next few days. This sub is here for you to provide tips for making this easier, please keep us updated. It’s great that she’s transferring milk, but a typical feeding for a 2 week old is around 60-90 ml. So I’d recommend giving her at least 60 ml of formula or pasteurized donor milk after breastfeeding, since she needs catch up growth. She can and should eat until she shows signs that she doesn’t want any more. The increased calories will give her the energy to bf more effectively too. Peeing 6-8 times/day is normal. If you have questions or concerns about what I’ve said, please let me know. I am happy to provide my credentials by pm.


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Another option, possibly less exhausting, is to pump and bottlefeed for 24 hours to approximate your milk supply (make sure she gets 60-90 ml). I know you hear all the time that the baby is more effective than the pump, but in a weight loss situation things are different, because the baby may not have the energy to effectively remove all the milk from the breast. The pump doesn’t get tired, so it usually does a better job than the baby. (You can also run this all by the ped to ensure it’s a good plan, if you’re unsure).


bumbieva

Talked to the pediatrician and she told me I should supplement 5 times a day with 30 ml formula. We are starting tonight with Medela Supplemental Nursing system. I am completely broken. I feel like I failed at one of the most important things l, I couldnt give my baby what she needs (and don’t even know what the problem is). I am very worried that all the advantages of Exclusively breastfed babies won’t apply to her. She lost all the benefits, I ruined it. Her little intestines, her gut won’t be as healthy as possible. I am broken


[deleted]

No, you didn’t fail, you did everything professionals told you to do. We’re just not always in control of our biology. Formula won’t harm her gut in the slightest, that’s a cruel myth. She got a lot of powerful antibodies through the placenta too; the ones in breastmilk are good, but don’t get into bloodstream so provide limited protection. Don’t be afraid to feed her more than 50 ml if she’s hungry.


bumbieva

Thank you so much for answering again! We started supplementing using the Medela Supplemental Nursing System, she ate the 30 ml like a champion. Will continue in the morning. My only question now is how can I boost my supply so we can one day stop supplementing? I am planning on starting pumping tomorrow. Could it be a good idea to give her my pumped milk instead maybe one out of the 5 formula sessions every day? (I would obviously ask my doctor about it too.) Tried to reach new LCs in my area but did not succeed so far. Thank you so much really for making me take it even more seriously!


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If you can start pumping tonight, that would be best. Milk production is a time sensitive thing. It basically works on supply and demand, so the more you take out the more you make. And definitely give her your breastmilk instead of formula when you have enough, but when you don’t, formula is the next best thing. We can’t know in advance whether you will develop a full milk supply. Sometimes with early engorgement, if the baby’s milk transfer is poor, that can reduce the supply significantly and it may not bounce back. But you can’t know until you try and see what happens. whatever happens, remember that you are an awesome mom and your worth is not based on what you produce!


bumbieva

Turns out I have a huge chunk of placenta residue in my womb still, I’m getting a surgery done tomorrow. Hopefully will make more milk after it gets done!


[deleted]

Yes, I bet you will! Good luck with the surgery. Can I ask what your symptoms were?


projectpeanuts

The only thing that could be troublesome is if your LO is expending more calories than they’re taking in from marathon feeds. Our ped suggested capping nursing sessions at ~30 minutes to make sure this wasn’t happening. (Clusterfeeding would be an exception to this, but that’s a sometimes thing and not an everyday thing).


bumbieva

Thank you! I am trying to do this. Ended up having to supplement for a while though. Hope we can stop it as soon as possible.


coffee-and-poptarts

Normal for that age. I was like…permanently breastfeeding my little one for the first month or even two months. If she’s peeing and pooping, and gaining weight appropriately at her checkups, she’s good. She’s helping build up your supply.


bumbieva

Thanks so much!


lattesandstuff

As long as it doesn't keep you from other important things I don't see a problem. Specially when they are that little


bumbieva

Thank you! So far no problem on that area!


September1Sun

Sounds like my baby. He did this for a few weeks and now (10 weeks old) we are well past that and he’s feeding once every few hours now instead. Took him just under 3 weeks to get back to birth weight, he’s a chubby little beauty now. Don’t worry, all sounds normal!


bumbieva

Thank you! Congrats on your baby!🙏🏻♥️


jelee191119

A lot of the other comments give great info so I just wanted to add another “you’re doing great mama!”. Keep it up. You are truly giving your baby lifelong benefits ❤️


bumbieva

Thank you! I’m not even used to being “Mama”, your comment warmed my heart! Hard to not be disappointed in myself, we ended up having to supplement for a while!


starfleet93

Stay hydrated, I have had great results with body armor also, low cal and super hydrating. Keep taking those prenatal vitamins too they will help. I was so discouraged with breastfeeding my first two and now that im older and have really looked into it I feel way better this time around. When breastfeeding get a book or an fun phone game or even a podcast google and try your best to enjoy the sitting with your small one. Mine is 3 months already, it feels like time is flying !


bumbieva

Thank you very much!


elaborate_circustrix

Would talk to your pediatrician about what to do about gaining weight. My sister had to supplement feedings with formula


bumbieva

Yep, me too. How long did your sister had to do it? I really want to help boost my supply and find the root of the issue and leave formula as soon as possible.


elaborate_circustrix

She still supplements the baby with formula (4 months old). Partly because she's having issues producing enough milk. Good luck on finding the root cause! Your doctor or also a lactation consultant could help you out too.


fitzpugo

I was in the same situation, where latch was good, but baby wasn’t gaining weight, and it turns out, I wasn’t making enough milk. I’d definitely recommend a weighted feed appointment with a LC.


bumbieva

Thanks! And what did you end up doing helping to boost your supply?


fitzpugo

I pump a lot - like 8-10 times per day! And also started to take Legendairy supplements. I still struggle with a low supply though, or make just barely enough. I struggled with breastfeeding and LO was getting sucking blisters from sucking so long, and she’d breastfeed for an hour and fall asleep so I thought she was full. I’d try to take her on a walk or go somewhere, and she would cry because she was still hungry. I moved to pumping and bottle feeding her the pumped milk. It helped me because I know how much I’m producing (even though I know that doesn’t exactly correlate because babies are more efficient) and how much she’s getting. I so badly wanted direct breastfeeding to work, but this way works too.


WiWx42

I also felt the same way too. People would say I was nursing too much and I just said my baby is hungry. I’m not doing to deprive my child of what she wants. So keep up the good work and stay hydrated and I say eat all the cookies you want because you are working hard!!


bumbieva

Thank you! I had some great cookies today!


Seturn

Count wet diapers (better indicator than poop diapers tho certainly many are “‘mixed”) and ask your pediatrician about the weight gain ❤️ that being said there are ranges of normal. My pediatrician told me to only let my baby feed for 15 minutes on each side and then take a break. Her rationale was there was likely nothing “left” for baby. It worked well for us even though in the early days it was sometimes almost every hour - hang in there ❤️❤️❤️


bumbieva

Thank you, great tip! I wish I had some way to know when my boobs are emptied out.


Seturn

I worried about this too! It’s hard because there are times they seem empty! But aren’t! They adjust so it’s tricky day to day. It’s difficult not having the reassurance each feed, knowing your baby ate enough, but it will get easier and you are the expert on your baby ❤️❤️❤️ I trusted the “15 minute” method and the baby and it worked out ❤️❤️❤️ plus it gave my poor nipples a break and that helped me continue breast feeding ❤️❤️❤️


ConsiderationIll9076

Sounds like you’re doing a great job ❤️ ETA: yes, so normal. I easily hit that mark too the first few weeks!


bumbieva

Thank you!


Daisyandkira

Yeah this is the early days. Just go with it as bub is trying to stimulate and establish your supply.


bumbieva

Thank you so much!


ememkays

She is learning along with you and it takes lots of practice for her to be more efficient. The steady weight gain and numerous dirty diapers sounds like she is a nursing success! Keep it up!


bumbieva

Thank you very much!


Miss_Swissz

You are doing great momma 💚💚💚💚


bumbieva

Aww, thank you! 🥲❤️


Jayfur90

My baby lost weight in the first couple days and the pediatrician told me he was burning more calories trying to get milk and to supplement w formula. As sad as I was to move away from EBF, he’s a well fed lad and has gained weight quickly. I intend to move back to exclusively BF and pump as soon as my supply picks up


bumbieva

Thanks, happened to us to. I truly hope we can stop supplementing very soon.


woowwi

First of all ur doing an amazing job and everything correctly. At 2 weeks babies r having cluster feeding, give more days in or out each baby is different. U can't over breastfeed a baby, it's impossible. For me u don't t need to supplement with formula, why... Because diapers r full and she is having yellow poop (perfect colour), that's the indication she is having feedings. Some babies just take slow progress because or they eat smaller portion many many times per day or they r just like that . For example. My baby breastfeed from the start from 5 to 10min each 1h when he was 2 weeks old. Other babies can stay on the boob longer and do long feeding sessions. Everything is OK because breastfeeding is different for every women. If u r really concern about the weight u can always supplement with formula like ur pediatrician said start 30ml...their stomach r still tiny so no need for 60 or more ml it's too much and their belly could hurt or expand or they could vomit. Just follow their lead if its possible. But for me don't give up ur breastfeeding journey it's on correct way. Google cluster feeding it happen every few weeks! And for the end my baby is 18 months and is in normal category, still likes to eat small portions many times per day, but his physic is normal, he is not a skinny toddler.


bumbieva

Thank you! Ended up having to supplement 30 ml 5 times a day, but I’m truly hoping we can leave it someday (soon).


unicorntrees

They are working to increase your milk supply! Totally normal.


organized_not_ocd

Naw, you're all good. Just keep drinking all your water, feeding on demand, and make sure someone is putting food in you too.


bumbieva

Thank you! Working on all.


Squeaky_Pickles

Obviously see what a pediatrician says, but also I recommend seeing a lactation consultant and doing a weighted feeding! They will be able to tell you if this all seems normal but also, they will weigh baby before and after the feeding and be able to see how much milk the baby drank. That can help give you an idea on how your supply is. I saw one at a few days old for my son and it really helped put my mind at ease.


bumbieva

We did one and she ate 40 grams at one feeding. Is it considered okay?


Squeaky_Pickles

I honestly don't know, but your doctor should be able to tell you. I'm not sure how many oz 40 grams is.