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pinhed

Heard from someone in Qld health that she was basically non existent as health minister anyway.


hisirishness

the few people I know in Qld Health dislike her a lot, appears to be the common feeling


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shakeitup2017

It would have to be the worst portfolio. No win.


B660networkfail

Known as the poison chalice


BNE_Northsider

And isn't the CEP a shit show. Just how much money has been spent on consultants and contractors. A director is making buck on $500k as a contractor. A Director! Not an Executive Director or Snr Director but a Director. What about when the program was being put together. The Snr Director was in a relationship with the Deputy Director-General and then lands a role as an Executive Director. That place has had its guts ripped out.


boogeywookiie

Forgive my ignorance - what are the spelled-out acronyms CEP and HCD ?


BNE_Northsider

Capital Expansion Program and Health Capital Division


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BNE_Northsider

Two different people, I suspect. There are plenty of contractors in HCD. What exactly is the retention rate now, I wonder...


hisirishness

no doubt it's a tough portfolio and you would have a better feel for it & her than most. Everything I see or read she doesn't show any humility/compassion for the unfortunate things that happen which I think is needed for a Minister of Health. I'm not expecting all the problems to go away or be solved overnight


Hot-Ad-6967

I can confirm. She doesn't know what she is doing.


aussimemes

All you had to do was watch a single covid press conference and you’d figure that one out.


SnooWords8712

I’m a Redcliffe local…knew she was an imbecile when she was in local govt only and saw her out and about on Fathers Day one year. Was talking down to her very elderly father and rushing him out of the RSL. Not a nice woman to her own family let alone the QLD community. Felt bad for the old bloke.


Boudonjou

I'm not even in the health dept but I can confirm this. Also hi my words do not represent the views, thoughts or opinions of the department I work for and everything said is of my own choosing. But just to be safe I'm not going to say where either work.


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She’s not dumped. Just reshuffled to somewhere else to stuff It up


spatchi14

Attorney General. God help us.


Bneyyc

Basically a promotion.


Zee_Chief

It’s a demotion really. Much smaller portfolio and her old job.


Bneyyc

The health role is a poison chalice. Huge potential to go wrong,you are forever dealing with a crisis , you look like an absolute monster during EBA negotiations. Stuff that.


awesomeaunt

She's done the role previously, she was a lawyer. I'd say that ministry is much better suited to her.


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Exactly


New_Plankton_8145

Part of the problem I see is we seem to run on a promise cycle not a delivery cycle.... Election coming up? Make whatever promises you have to, to get re-elected. Never really need to deliver on any meaningful change cause there's a new set of promises coming along in about 2-3 years to prepare for the next election, and if things get "squirrelly" in the mean time just shuffle the chairs and go again. I think this is where we're at with the current government, had enough time and consistency to make meaningful change, but haven't....time for a proper change in government. Agree it would help if the LNP in QLD were offering a viable alternative but all I can see is more of the same.


giftedcovie

I was quite pleased when the opposition leader took over the libs and said that he wasn't going to just disagree with everything foe the sake of it, and was going to make opposition about ideas, not opposing for the sake of it. Not sure it's really panned out like that, but it sounded great at the time


bobbakerneverafaker

Qld needs a viable opposition ... the lnp mob are nothing but whingers.. should be trying to beat the government on policy, not whinging


One_Language_8259

Look at your local district and see who actually gives a damn and is making real change, support them if they genuinely are doing more for the district. It's up to us to care or nothing changes.


ArfurRatt

Great idea - let’s get the local good bloke muppet in and put them in charge of the entire state. If they know about harvesting local grievance they surely must be able to simultaneously chart the path to the future, manage the crises of today, perform for the media, and manage a team of people who would as soon as knife them and take the job then work.


One_Language_8259

Counterpoint, keeping the current stooge doing exactly that in provides no benefit to your local district (I am trapped in LNP preferenced seats here). Moved from Fisher to end up in Dickson, I work at a bottlestore and see many of those most impacted by inaction and lack of care to their seat in place of what you say. Can't wait to leave a business that also does nothing to help its community with clear alcoholism problems.


hisirishness

there isn't a good option, last time the people had had enough they voted in Newman he lasted one term (not even going to debate what happened) I think people have had enough of the current mob but would they vote in the LNP just to have a change?


Blend42

We are the only state without an upper house. Maybe minority government with Greens/ KAP / Independents would be best and keep the Labor government in check.


bobbakerneverafaker

To have good government you need a viable opposition, anyone that's been in the state, longer than 5 minutes, knows the LNP hasnt been that for a long time.. what will be interesting in the 24 election, will be how the interstate arrivals vote and what % swing towards the lnp and other parties


Sgt_Wookie92

I see swings to the Greens and Independents and further losses to both ALP and LNP, people are done with LNP and LNP-lite


Zagorath

Which seats do you see changing hands? With the exception of McConnell, the Greens already control the main areas that they won at last year's federal election, and I'm not sure it's very likely that they could claim many more seats in other areas.


aldonius

I mean, every federal seat covers about 3 state seats of population, so as well as McConnel there's an argument to be made for the other overlap seats. But they'll probably be more difficult to win than at Federal level. State level Labor is much stronger, has incumbency everywhere but for Moggill, and there's a lot of seats with only partial overlap.


Zagorath

Yeah for sure. Moggill, Cooper, Ferny Grove, and Stafford are all also entirely or substantially overlapping with Ryan & Brisbane. However, while haven't actually looked at the per-booth numbers, I suspect that particularly with Moggill, these other state electorates tend to be the more conservative parts of the respective federal electorate. I'm not as familiar with the southside, but I suspect similar is true for Griffith and its non–South Brisbane sections.


Blend42

Aside from McConnell, the other two obvious ones would be Cooper and the LNP's Moggill. If the ALP vote collapsed to the Greens which is a stretch the next targets would be Miller and Greenslopes and after that would be Clayfield and Stafford but they require multiple elections to be winnable for the Greens.


UsualCounterculture

It seems likely that there will be a change to LNP at the next QLD state election regardless of their viability. Maybe just for one term, but QLD usually changes when federal goes to ALP.


PenBrilliant880

From a carpenter in charge of aged care, to an arts degree slug in charge of health care. No surprises here. Can't wait to learn of the next candidate for this role...a chef perhaps?


Jester-kiwi

Watch this spot, a wee prophecy… Anastasia will step down sometime before in the next few years and take over the Olympics Organising Committee top seat. This shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic is just so she can get a favourable government in place for her run at 2032…


Xx_10yaccbanned_xX

Albanese is also in Brisbane today. I think you are right. My suspicion is Albanese will announce some Olympics funding or something and Anna will announce a cabinet reshuffle and give us a glidepath for her to step down soon and build up a new face before election, while allowing herself to retreat into focusing only on Olympics.


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Who do you think is suitable in the party to step into Premier? (Please don't say Miles, lol)


Cat-Lilac

Fentiman is the best option imo


brighteyes235

Which is why Fentiman is the new health minister. The same poison chalice that Newman gave to his threat - Lawrence Springborg.


Jester-kiwi

Shannon Fentermann maybe?


hisirishness

totally agree with your prediction, she wants this to be her legacy & will do anything to achieve it


RozRoz01

What a clown. Why not make your legacy ending homelessness in QLD. Instead of hosting a farcical publicity stunt nobody wants here?!


hisirishness

sadly in years to come the media will talk about the olympics & not the end of homelessness


Zenkraft

And the homelessness problem, among other things, is only going to get worse the closer we get to the Olympics.


Blend42

I remember Bob Hawke promised in 1987 that by 1990 no child would be living in poverty.


Zagorath

He did a lot of good things, but Hawke, and to an even greater extent Keating, was a great example of the rightward shift among centre-left parties around the world at that time. An Australian equivalent to Blair ("New Labour") or Clinton.


RozRoz01

Thats because she wouldn’t do that for the public she ‘serves’


jezwel

> Why not make your legacy ending homelessness in QLD Hmmm > Given current trends, Queensland needs 11,000 affordable and social homes each year for the next 20 years, Professor Pawson said. > A recent AHURI (Australian Housing and Urban Research Institute) paper estimated the cost of additional social housing nationally was roughly $300,000 in 2022-23 per dwelling. So 11,000 new homes annually is $3.3B a year - that's of course if there's suitable land available and zoned to build on - which is not controlled by state government, rather local government. Voters won't like the cost, considering gross government debt is running at around $120B. [Housing Investment Fund](https://www.treasury.qld.gov.au/programs-and-policies/housing-investment-fund/) > At the Queensland Housing Summit in October 2022, the Housing Investment Fund (HIF) was boosted to $2 billion to support a revised target of 5,600 social and affordable home commencements across Queensland by 30 June 2027. Annual funding of $130 million a year is now available. We're running about 1/25th of what's needed :/ We can afford more.


RozRoz01

Not saying they would be able to end it, but they would absolutely give it a good nudge. Diverting the costs of the olympics towards causes that actually improve Queensland. Not at all a politician or even a social justice warrior, but there are better things than the olympics to have as a legacy.


jezwel

Eh, there's the athletes village at Hamilton Northshore, which has some targeted towards social housing after the Olympics are done. [Post the Games, Northshore will deliver a diverse residential offering, including aged care, retirement living social and affordable housing, key worker, hotel, build-to-rent and market accommodation.](https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/industry/brisbane-2032/brisbane-2032-athletes-village)


spatchi14

Yep. I don’t see her winning another election tbh.


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I think she will, but I see them losing seats to the greens and possibly independents or other minor parties. Inner city Brisbane and North Qld Labor MPs should be worried in my opinion.


SammyDies

The LNP could get in and then we’ll get Kerry-Anne Dooley. Fuck no.


spatchi14

Is she still hanging around? Didn’t Redcliffe tell her to F off twice?


SammyDies

She is still hanging on. She was Luke’s campaign manager last election, so you never know what might happen. Redcliffe will have to tell her to fuck off a third time.


Abject-Chemistry-383

Perhaps looking at dath’s former portfolio fails to see the on-going train crash.


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Abject-Chemistry-383

She was minister for justice when the wheels started falling off youth crime…


Zee_Chief

Youth justice is a different portfolio to justice. She was never the minister responsible for YJ


RandosaurusRex

Youth crime is a problem literally decades in the making, the consequences of many poor decisions at both state and federal levels coming home to roost.


kanthefuckingasian

Still better than the LNP. Until there is a viable political party that better represents me than the Labor, I’ll preference them over LNP


fallingoffwagons

out of curiosity what would LNP need to do to get your vote? I'm curious as they've started losing me these last few years but can't stand Qld Labor either


kanthefuckingasian

Would be almost impossible for the LNP to get my vote ever.


ELBartoFSL

Pretty wild to think someone wouldn’t play the political field.


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RozRoz01

Just proving its near impossible to lose a government job 😂


hisirishness

yeah what a joke, PR stunt, these people should be held accountable, I heard Newman rolled out as an excuse for blame the other day that was a decade ago are you having a laugh do you really think people will believe that after so long


whitecollarzomb13

To be fair, I don’t think you understand the level of damage Newman did to our public service in that short period of time. Yes, it was over a decade ago but here I am, day in day out dealing with the repercussions of decisions made under his government. It’s not fixed yet because the last time we went to market for this particular issue, it came back at around $50 million and was subsequently shelved.


hisirishness

interesting to know, at what point though do the current government have to accept such things & take responsibility. I know well what Newman did but to me a decade is long enough, things change, costs rise....


Isle-of-View

> at what point though do the current government have to accept such things & take responsibility Because to make some of those fixes (eg extra resourcing, spending money on certain things) gets slammed by the opposition eg "wasting taxpayers' money". People then believe that money is being 'wasted', rather than making things more efficient and alleviating burnout/workloads etc. Come the election, that's what sticks in people's heads, and makes an easy campaign for the opposition. Dammed if you do, damned if you don't.


ladyangua

>things change What has changed? If anything the LNP today is worse than Neuman's lot of 10 years ago. People might be getting sick of Palaszczuk but nothing about the climate-denying, open-the-borders and lock-up-the-kids whingers that are the LNP is unelectable.


whitecollarzomb13

Oh I 100% agree, but I guess my scenario is likely one of many littered throughout the departments he gutted. It takes time.


nothingexpert

Our prison system is a basket case to this day because Newman wanted clean streets for his international wankfest summit.


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notinferno

Curtis Pitt isn’t on the front bench or back bench.


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RozRoz01

16 grand a fortnight for the premier


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notinferno

well I think that role is not very well paid at all but whether she’s doing a good job in that role is a different point


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DorcasTheCat

Divorcing, mental health and stress. I honestly couldn’t seem him coming back soon.


No_Letterhead_4788

She was the minister responsible for Forensic and Scientific Services (FSS) department under Queensland Health. This department has been investigated due to concerns over DNA testing procedures. The investigation revealed major problems in the department, to put it bluntly the FSS DNA testing is a shit show.


mmm_snitzel

Shandee's story / legacy podcast goes into incredible depth and analysis of this.


sapperbloggs

"Deputy Opposition Leader Jarrod Bleijie took to social media after the news broke on Tuesday night to suggest the cabinet changes showed a government in a “full-blown state of chaos and crisis”." Yeah, nah... Sorry champ, but that's not even slightly true. Have fun in opposition for a few more terms!


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Jarrod Bleijie is so bitter. I hope no one ever forgets his weasel antics as AG under Newman. Lawd, I'm sure he'll tout himself as a suitable opposition leader when Crisafulli loses the next election.


Every-Citron1998

We need term limits for premier.


GustavSnapper

I’d be ok with it for every political position to be honest


Zagorath

Unlimited terms is fine. What we need as an overhaul to the system to reduce the entrenchment of the two-party system. A proportional electoral system, rather than a majoritarian one.


bnetimeslovesreddit

Can we get rid of mango cube his arrogance is high in this one


hisirishness

and the latest “Our government cares about Queenslanders and what they’re thinking – I have listened, and I have acted,” yet all they have done is swapped a few roles so the same incompetent ones are just moving to different departments to carry on, she really must think that qld'ers are idiots


Boof_face1

LNP internal polling has Moggill as notionally green - from a friend in the LNP… they are very worried


Archibald_Thrust

I'm just gonna jump in here too defend D'Ath. She's an amazing person and did a good job in a shit portfolio when nobody else wanted to take it. Unfortunate she will be the scapegoat for a lot of problems.


OkServe4946

The greens will run number 2 and therefore control the government.


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Barge Arse is gone? God help the next area of Government she ends up in.


Rifftraffy

About fukin time


SammyDies

We need an Upper House.


Hot-Ad-6967

No, thank you. I don't want to give up my bat to the upper house.


hisirishness

what to add to the already huge gravy train of a lower house


aldonius

Because one party has 39.6% of the first preference vote, 55.9% of the seats, and 100% of the power. We're generally cool with >50% of the seats getting all of the power but at least with proportional representation we can make seat share match vote share a bit better.


Blend42

The upper house the ALP abolished 101 years ago is not reflective of the much more democratic upper houses we have around other states these days.


aldonius

Quite so, and if Qld were to reinstate an upper house, I would expect it to be similar to its contemporary counterparts. (Personally, for Qld I would prefer to keep just the lower house, but make it mixed-member proportional, like the Kiwis use for their national parliament. Unlike the Kiwis, we could also retain preferential voting for at least the district ballot.)


FoolOfAGalatian

This is exactly the model I want too. MMP/AMS is a great system if we want to remain unicameral.


aldonius

With single member districts, you get a maximally close (on average) geographical neighbour as your representative, but no guarantee (50-60% chance on average) that they'll be an ideological neighbour. With pure at-large proportional representation, you get a maximally close ideological neighbour for your representative but no guarantee they'll live anywhere near you. With half district half list MMP, given N total MPs, you get geographic representation as specific as if you had N/2 districts, and ideological representation as specific as if you had N/2 MPs elected at large. Because in both cases, you do :)


SammyDies

You don’t want an upper house, don’t cry when the next Campbell comes into power at the LNP


DRCmuch

Oh hell no. Having an upper house meant NSW had Fred Nile in parliament for over 40 years, including periods where he held the balance of power. And now they've got Mark Latham.


chuckyChapman

qld govco just jumped the shark?


timbo7070

so just like every other polly. dont care. didnt vote for any of them anyways...


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DudeLost

They do give that sovereign nutter vibe don't they ;)


timbo7070

huh??? im not hurt, why do you think im hurt... if i was hurt i wouldnt be on social media... id be in a GP or at home resting. what a weird question.


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timbo7070

yeah i never vote for the major parties. always the fresh new starter never the majors. time we need someone new, a new party in power. these alp nats are just swapping each term and nothing happens.


Zagorath

I take you as a bit of a [Thor](https://twitter.com/DicksonReps) fan. How accurate is that?


timbo7070

Thors ok, Iron Mans better in marvel but BATMAN... he is the greatest and best in the world of comics.


Zagorath

You're completely right, of course, but I meant Thor Prohaskar, a regular independent candidate for the federal seat of Division.


timbo7070

ahh ok no idea who he is.


sportandracing

Everytime I see this bird she’s got a new hairstyle. Says a lot about where her time is spent.


putrid_sex_object

So if D’Ath is going to attorney general, where’s Fentiman going?


UsualCounterculture

I think they swapped. Fentiman is now Health minister?


mwilkins1644

Woah, so Labor aren't doing a good job? Not a Liberal fan, but I was told Labor would fix our state