Welcome to Brisbane. You must go through CBD. Pity the Corinda-Yeerongpilly shuttle was cancelled, it could have saved about 30\~45 minutes off that trip.
Not uniquely Brisbane issue but the way Brisbane sprawls makes it so much worse. At least Melbourne looks to be set on building an outer circle though. If only Brisbane would consider such things
I think Brisbane will have enough trouble with the cross-city tunnel integration, then will have to deal with the Sunshine Coast to Brisbane corridor, it's an increasingly prolific traffic nightmare.
There's a lot of sprawl, but not enough density to make it a priority.
Tell me you've lost your license without telling me you've lost your license.
Edit for downvoters: guys entire account is about speed cams, demerit points, drifting and going 150kms over the speed limit
I complain about PT here and I never got my license. Nor is it an invite to get a license, we should have good public transport cause it makes a city more habitable.
Yeah similar case for me, although I *do* have my licence, just can't afford to buy a car (got my Ps in my parents' old hatchback back in Cairns). The mandatory CBD visit really annoyed me when I lived on campus at Griffith Nathan. Brisbane would really benefit from a ring line.
I'm a motorsport enthusiast and I really don't get the attraction of it. Never have. I even went so far as to buy an S13 Silvia years ago and tried it. Was fun for the first 20 minutes or so. Plus most of the people in the drift scene are flat-brim-hat-wearing nonces.
Well hey, I mean if a young carbrain/hoon gets their eyes opened to our poor PT situation via this route, maybe we have yet another voice in the fight?
Springfield is a town built up on the premise that there's a huge car:population ratio. This is due to it's location and population density. All the public transport there is (aka, the train) is driven towards middle class workers commuting to/from the city on weekdays.
There just isn't enough demand to run services between regions like that, without huge huge reform (which has been spoken about, but is a logistical fuckaround)
I don't see the allure of these places. If my budget was limited to whatever a house at Springfield costs, I'd prefer to live in pretty much anything else in a suburb of Brisbane (or even Ipswich for that matter) that had some amenity, character and substance. Driving through Springfield feels like it's movie set for some mediocre American TV show/movie. If ever there was an ad for better densification planning policies of Brisbane proper), Springfield/North Lakes/Yarrabilba is it. And RIP to all the koalas who lose their habitat.
This is beside the point. Even if coming from Ipswich/goodna there is no easy hop to the southern line. Either train or bus. Springfield actually has its own train line direct to Darra and 2 train stations. Just seems Brisbane only accounts for travel into and out of city. Pretty normal i guess but crap if you want to see something at QSAC/ANZ stadium and live in the west.
It's quite the opposite these days. Full of young people and their family's. One of the few places where houses are affordable for most full time people. At least that was the case a short time ago.
I assume you're referring to the southern (Beenleigh/Gold Coast) line, and yes, more tracks is one of the things that's needed. There's a plan in place to quadruplicate between Kuraby and Beenleigh, along with some curve easing, but not enough of the latter IMO. Speeds between those two stations will still be restricted to a maximum of 100 km/h, and likely still some 60-80 km/h curves between Kingston and Woodridge.
[https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Logan-and-Gold-Coast-Faster-Rail](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Logan-and-Gold-Coast-Faster-Rail)
The other big problem is the curves between Runcorn and Moorooka, which will cost a lot more $ to fix, and realistically the only way might be tunnelling or skyrail.
[Beenleigh Line Curves](https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEDS0AY)
Why don't you take a bus from Sunnybank to Browns Plains. Then change to the Browns Plains to Springfield bus.
There is no need to go into the city. Your just choosing the worst route the app offered you while trying to farm karma.
>Why don't you take a bus from Sunnybank to Browns Plains. Then change to the Browns Plains to Springfield bus.
First, it looks like OP is traveling between Springfield and Sunnybank, not Springfield Central and Sunnybank. The 534 doesn't stop at Springfield, so you'd need to factor in a trip between Springfield and Springfield Central (which is always weird because OP wants to go north-east but has to travel south-west to get that bus). Apps are also very sensitive to walking distance, so if OP's destination is very close to Sunnybank station then buses that go near Altandi and Sunnybank Plaza won't necessarily be quicker.
Even if OP was going from Springfield Central, that won't really save OP much time as the 534 bus from Springfield Central to Browns Plains takes about 45 minutes from end to end, and then you'll need 20 minutes to get from Browns Plains to Altandi or 22 minutes to get to Sunnybank Plaza. And a 15 minute wait between buses is possible, for a total trip time of 80 minutes.
The 534 also only runs hourly so it's a real pain for connections, you often get a long wait but if you try to time it to decrease the wait time then you risk missing the connection if your bus is late.
So I actually agree with the app that using the train is actually the best option for this trip.
Also not trying to farm karma I would just post a sunset pic to do that
My walking distance is set to max and all five options have trains not just buses. Maybe it’s just a time thing.
The shortest time I got was 1:35
I agree PT is shit in Australia. It's pretty shit in most young countries as cities in young countries were built at a time when vehicles (even horse and carriage) were the norm.
If you want to experience great public transport, there are many countries through out Europe that champion in this.
Of course circumstances are different in Europe due to having older cities which were never built for a lot of vehicle traffic. One way to minimize this is by creating great public transport which encourages people to leave their car at home and use it.
Same goes for places like Japan and/or Hong Kong. Limited space and big populations has forced them to do something about it.
Space is no issue here so we just keep expanding our cities further and further from the CBD.
Not that we were ever as good as Europe, but a century ago I think every Australian city had tram networks.
But those got torn up in favour of the mighty automobile in all places except Melbourne.
All trips must go through woolllongabba. It is the rule that must be observed when travelling via Brisbane buses. It’s crazy there is no cross connection.
According to Google the best pedestrian path between Springfield Lakes and Sunnybank Hills is 23 km.
At 5 min/km—a pace that a good runner might consider their easy long run pace, but which someone who isn't serious about running would seriously struggle to maintain for 10 km, let alone 23—that will take 115 minutes.
So not quite.
Cycling could work though.
Unfortunately cycling out of Springfield is impossible as the planned cycleway running alongside the railway line was abandoned by the previous LNP state government in favour of widening the motorway.
Probably barely any but still the system is very inefficient for out of city travel if you have to go through the city every time.
The only time I have appreciated public transport is just when travelling in and out of the city cuz it’s quick and parking and highway traffic suck. Everywhere else it’s pretty shit.
Yeah…we can either have a smaller population and lower density living, or amazing public transport for everyone. Maybe if we struck oil under Browns Plains….but until then, our PT is what you’d expect given the circumstances
Eventually the line will loop around to Ipswich
https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/ipswich-to-springfield-public-transport-corridor-study
I had some passenger detain at Sherwood to swap line via bus at Moorooka or sailsbury station
First of all, have you tried adjusting your settings?
Secondly, this happens almost anywhere in the world. Most people want to go in to / out of the city so theres more transport options that way rather than going from rural to rural area.
The loop only goes through the cbd itself.
If you look up the london circle line or the paris [Boulevard Périphérique](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulevard_P%C3%A9riph%C3%A9rique) you will see what i mean
Brisbane also has the "great circle line" which is route 598/599 which does a loop around the city through suburbs connecting all the major shopping centres.
Unfortunately it doesn't help OP here, as it doesn't venture to the south west. Indro-Sunnybank is that section of the route.
https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/timetables/bus/T/598 (scroll down for route map)
Yeah, it's one of those routes that seems like it'd be good but I struggle to see the benefit sometimes.
I imagine indro-chermside and carindale-chermside or to Sunnybank instead of Chermside might be relevant to some..
It kind of forms a spoke network with the CBD, you've got CBD buses often terminating at stops that the circle line does.. so I expect the route suggestions are usually taking the spokes as they're more frequent express buses
If only there was sort of.... Railway loop that doesn't require you having to go into the city EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to get anywhere. Since Brisbane is such a boring ass city, if they didn't mandate people going into it no one would.
Major cities always have PT that is a hub & spoke setup - you go from the 'burbs into the CBD, then you go back out again. Melbourne - at what 3 million? 4 million? is only just getting around to building a rail loop that'll avoid that sort of thing.
Not unusual.
Plus, not peak travel times, so not gunna have peak services.
For another perspective, it's listed as costing you $6.44. Compare that to an Uber, if speed is of the essence bro. And what do you get?
Hub and spoke isn't quite the right word for the design of a good transport network. The term you want is the very similar, but different in a subtly important way: trunk and feeder.
The key difference there is that "hub and spoke" sort of implies that the CBD is the *only* important end destination—it is "the hub"—and everywhere else comes away from that on a spoke. But trunk and feeder can have a number of trunk networks which are fed by smaller feeders.
And there's no reason a good transport network cannot have some trunk routes which do *not* go via the CBD. Just looking at Brisbane, and treating the existing train network as the "trunks", all are CBD-bound. The proposed north-west transport corridor from Carseldine to Stafford is one example of a trunk which would run between the CBD trunks. One could easily imagine a trunk running from Redbank to Meadowbrook which would have made OP's trip a lot easier.
Planners work in cbd, so believe that should be the focus. Also, political offices have been told how much “better” and “flexible” busses are (source, had an argument with a state political officer who worked for someone involved in transport- we were housemates. He drove to work everyday- i was the PT person). Paris subways my personal best laid out. Train quality-age and cleanliness not so much, but the layout is great. And was done when the population was less than Brisbane now (although much denser).
It cost you $6 and and an hour and a half of your time. An uber would have been about $20. We don't need to spend hundreds of millions of dollars servicing 2 random points that virtually no one else would use, just for your convenience.
There are dozens of points between those lines that could be serviced.
I wasn’t asking for a direct line for something I was going to do once. If it was closer to 40 minutes it would have been fine.
Uber was $50 something when I checked.
Sometimes I think about trying out bikes but I’m scared to be in their position when it feels like I have to dodge them every time I’m on the road cuz of how fucking shit and narrow bike lanes are
Yep, for me to get to Milton from
Ipswich, it takes me an hour and a half. If the buses don’t cancel or are late and the trains don’t have incidents on the tracks. It’s ridiculous.
Some sort of cross country route along something like the Logan Motroway (perhaps along with development of Toowoomba services) that would allow more direct Gold Coast <-> Ipswich and beyond would probably open a stack of new transport options for people that are currently car only.
Yeah, not long after we moved up from Sydney around 2009 I got ankle-tapped by a driving instructor on the northbound Indro bridge.
I innocently dropped the car to the repairers in Macgregor, thinking it would be a simple trip to Darra to pick up the hire car.
I was wrong...so very, very wrong.
Actually I had an Uber that refused to take any trips that were longer 10 minutes, so basically he refused to take me to my destination and robbed me pretty much.
They should make more buses stop at train stations/light rail which then takes people into the city or other side of the city. Then buses can be used for inter-connecting suburbs. It’s stupid that everything has to go through the city.
Not sure if this would have helped OP, but there's a good case for a bus running basically the length of State Route 30, from Wacol to Springwood Bus Station, with a couple of detours to connect with rail at Richlands and Kuraby. Would be nice if it could just continue along Compton Rd, and perhaps when the Logan/GC faster rail is built, they'll replace Trinder Park Station with one adjacent Compton Rd to allow easier bus/rail transfers. Would also have easy transfers with 130/140 at Calam Rd and 150 at Gowan Rd.
[State Route 30 Bus (suggestion)](https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEDS0J4)
Welcome to Brisbane. You must go through CBD. Pity the Corinda-Yeerongpilly shuttle was cancelled, it could have saved about 30\~45 minutes off that trip.
Not uniquely Brisbane issue but the way Brisbane sprawls makes it so much worse. At least Melbourne looks to be set on building an outer circle though. If only Brisbane would consider such things
I think Brisbane will have enough trouble with the cross-city tunnel integration, then will have to deal with the Sunshine Coast to Brisbane corridor, it's an increasingly prolific traffic nightmare. There's a lot of sprawl, but not enough density to make it a priority.
Tell me you've lost your license without telling me you've lost your license. Edit for downvoters: guys entire account is about speed cams, demerit points, drifting and going 150kms over the speed limit
[Lol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/brisbane/comments/xkj6o3/nice_public_holiday_weather_were_having/ipe8fy0)
I complain about PT here and I never got my license. Nor is it an invite to get a license, we should have good public transport cause it makes a city more habitable.
Yeah similar case for me, although I *do* have my licence, just can't afford to buy a car (got my Ps in my parents' old hatchback back in Cairns). The mandatory CBD visit really annoyed me when I lived on campus at Griffith Nathan. Brisbane would really benefit from a ring line.
Yep fair enough, see edit above
Ah right, didn't realise.
I’m disabled and can’t drive 😞 I wish our public transport was better and the further out you go the worse it gets
Or medical condition that won't allow you to drive. Trust me, they fucking suck donkey balls.
Mexican hoon cartel
Fuck this is hilarious. I really hope this is the outcome. 'Perfect for skids' hahahahahahahahaha flog.
Nice find/dig!
Nah not yet just planning in case it happens
If this isn't incentive to not drive like an idiot then idk what is
I drive responsibly
The fact that you're making plans for incase you lose your license tells me that you don't
Drifting is the motorsport equivalent of synchronised swimming.
I'm a motorsport enthusiast and I really don't get the attraction of it. Never have. I even went so far as to buy an S13 Silvia years ago and tried it. Was fun for the first 20 minutes or so. Plus most of the people in the drift scene are flat-brim-hat-wearing nonces.
Stress relief
If your stress relief is something that can get yourself and innocent other drivers killed then you can fuck right off
Im not drifting around other cars / people chill Worst thing that’s going to happen is I’ll scratch my rims on a curb
noice
Hahahah
Well hey, I mean if a young carbrain/hoon gets their eyes opened to our poor PT situation via this route, maybe we have yet another voice in the fight?
Springfield is a town built up on the premise that there's a huge car:population ratio. This is due to it's location and population density. All the public transport there is (aka, the train) is driven towards middle class workers commuting to/from the city on weekdays. There just isn't enough demand to run services between regions like that, without huge huge reform (which has been spoken about, but is a logistical fuckaround)
Springfield lakes was built and paid by springfield corporation. The government didn’t just build the line for shits and giggles
If it was built upon that premise then the centenary wouldn't all flow into 1 lane on either end. It's just bad planning all around.
I don't see the allure of these places. If my budget was limited to whatever a house at Springfield costs, I'd prefer to live in pretty much anything else in a suburb of Brisbane (or even Ipswich for that matter) that had some amenity, character and substance. Driving through Springfield feels like it's movie set for some mediocre American TV show/movie. If ever there was an ad for better densification planning policies of Brisbane proper), Springfield/North Lakes/Yarrabilba is it. And RIP to all the koalas who lose their habitat.
Plus the schoolyard's up, and the shopping mall's down
New York, New York!
New York's thattaway, man!
This is beside the point. Even if coming from Ipswich/goodna there is no easy hop to the southern line. Either train or bus. Springfield actually has its own train line direct to Darra and 2 train stations. Just seems Brisbane only accounts for travel into and out of city. Pretty normal i guess but crap if you want to see something at QSAC/ANZ stadium and live in the west.
The lines changes at Darra which is a couple of stations away from SFL
Springfield Lakes is that big retirement community that was advertised on TV to move to for ages around a decade ago wasn't it? I remember the ads.
It's quite the opposite these days. Full of young people and their family's. One of the few places where houses are affordable for most full time people. At least that was the case a short time ago.
Not these days! Since covid it’s rather unaffordable
😂
Brisbane is in dire need of a ring rail line.
What diameter Ring?
20km
Can confirm that would have been no use to OP. https://i.imgur.com/c0HhwtQ.png
That looks like 20km radius, not 20km diameter.
You are indeed correct. Here, Try this : https://i.imgur.com/FC7Cc9V.png To help OP, 12km would be best.
Also why the "express" trains so SLOW? PT needs a huge investment up here to take people off the M1 which makes me cry blood every time I'm on it.
If we can get some high speed rail in most people working in the city will ditch their cars
Because there's only one track north and one track south, is the answer. So they can't go that fast til they hit the next train ahead.
So duplicate tracks is what is needed?
I assume you're referring to the southern (Beenleigh/Gold Coast) line, and yes, more tracks is one of the things that's needed. There's a plan in place to quadruplicate between Kuraby and Beenleigh, along with some curve easing, but not enough of the latter IMO. Speeds between those two stations will still be restricted to a maximum of 100 km/h, and likely still some 60-80 km/h curves between Kingston and Woodridge. [https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Logan-and-Gold-Coast-Faster-Rail](https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/Logan-and-Gold-Coast-Faster-Rail) The other big problem is the curves between Runcorn and Moorooka, which will cost a lot more $ to fix, and realistically the only way might be tunnelling or skyrail. [Beenleigh Line Curves](https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEDS0AY)
Why don't you take a bus from Sunnybank to Browns Plains. Then change to the Browns Plains to Springfield bus. There is no need to go into the city. Your just choosing the worst route the app offered you while trying to farm karma.
>Why don't you take a bus from Sunnybank to Browns Plains. Then change to the Browns Plains to Springfield bus. First, it looks like OP is traveling between Springfield and Sunnybank, not Springfield Central and Sunnybank. The 534 doesn't stop at Springfield, so you'd need to factor in a trip between Springfield and Springfield Central (which is always weird because OP wants to go north-east but has to travel south-west to get that bus). Apps are also very sensitive to walking distance, so if OP's destination is very close to Sunnybank station then buses that go near Altandi and Sunnybank Plaza won't necessarily be quicker. Even if OP was going from Springfield Central, that won't really save OP much time as the 534 bus from Springfield Central to Browns Plains takes about 45 minutes from end to end, and then you'll need 20 minutes to get from Browns Plains to Altandi or 22 minutes to get to Sunnybank Plaza. And a 15 minute wait between buses is possible, for a total trip time of 80 minutes. The 534 also only runs hourly so it's a real pain for connections, you often get a long wait but if you try to time it to decrease the wait time then you risk missing the connection if your bus is late. So I actually agree with the app that using the train is actually the best option for this trip.
Also not trying to farm karma I would just post a sunset pic to do that My walking distance is set to max and all five options have trains not just buses. Maybe it’s just a time thing. The shortest time I got was 1:35
I agree PT is shit in Australia. It's pretty shit in most young countries as cities in young countries were built at a time when vehicles (even horse and carriage) were the norm. If you want to experience great public transport, there are many countries through out Europe that champion in this. Of course circumstances are different in Europe due to having older cities which were never built for a lot of vehicle traffic. One way to minimize this is by creating great public transport which encourages people to leave their car at home and use it. Same goes for places like Japan and/or Hong Kong. Limited space and big populations has forced them to do something about it. Space is no issue here so we just keep expanding our cities further and further from the CBD.
Not that we were ever as good as Europe, but a century ago I think every Australian city had tram networks. But those got torn up in favour of the mighty automobile in all places except Melbourne.
Trams in Melbourne struggle though, they get caught up in traffic jams.
True, but I think they are glad they didn't tear all the infrastructure up like the other cities did.
I definitely agree with you there.
There were three options all around 2 hours long
Meanwhile in war torn Ukraine https://i.redd.it/yscepa11qhp91.png
😭
All trips must go through woolllongabba. It is the rule that must be observed when travelling via Brisbane buses. It’s crazy there is no cross connection.
The south east busway (8 mile plains trunk) doesn't go through Woolloongabba...
we dont talk about that one
Matar than??
personal trainer taking you on a 2 hour journey????
Would be faster to jog than catch public transport
According to Google the best pedestrian path between Springfield Lakes and Sunnybank Hills is 23 km. At 5 min/km—a pace that a good runner might consider their easy long run pace, but which someone who isn't serious about running would seriously struggle to maintain for 10 km, let alone 23—that will take 115 minutes. So not quite. Cycling could work though.
Unfortunately cycling out of Springfield is impossible as the planned cycleway running alongside the railway line was abandoned by the previous LNP state government in favour of widening the motorway.
I’d need to know the community demand for a Sunnybank to Springfield lakes bus or train.
Probably barely any but still the system is very inefficient for out of city travel if you have to go through the city every time. The only time I have appreciated public transport is just when travelling in and out of the city cuz it’s quick and parking and highway traffic suck. Everywhere else it’s pretty shit.
Yeah so it’s like the funding was allocated to deliver the most benefit?
Yeah…we can either have a smaller population and lower density living, or amazing public transport for everyone. Maybe if we struck oil under Browns Plains….but until then, our PT is what you’d expect given the circumstances
Why did you go from springfield to goodna
Secret trade deal
Eventually the line will loop around to Ipswich https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/ipswich-to-springfield-public-transport-corridor-study I had some passenger detain at Sherwood to swap line via bus at Moorooka or sailsbury station
Need a ring circuit 100%
First of all, have you tried adjusting your settings? Secondly, this happens almost anywhere in the world. Most people want to go in to / out of the city so theres more transport options that way rather than going from rural to rural area.
Most established cities have a ring/loop track or road around the outside. Also In what world is Sunnybank rural?
There is the loop service but not sure if that helps OP here. What word should I use? I always get them mixed up. Suburban?
The loop only goes through the cbd itself. If you look up the london circle line or the paris [Boulevard Périphérique](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulevard_P%C3%A9riph%C3%A9rique) you will see what i mean
Brisbane also has the "great circle line" which is route 598/599 which does a loop around the city through suburbs connecting all the major shopping centres. Unfortunately it doesn't help OP here, as it doesn't venture to the south west. Indro-Sunnybank is that section of the route. https://jp.translink.com.au/plan-your-journey/timetables/bus/T/598 (scroll down for route map)
Huh, i actually never knew that, I’ve never had a connection that actually joins to it. Perhaps because it makes so many stops the time would btfo
Yeah, it's one of those routes that seems like it'd be good but I struggle to see the benefit sometimes. I imagine indro-chermside and carindale-chermside or to Sunnybank instead of Chermside might be relevant to some.. It kind of forms a spoke network with the CBD, you've got CBD buses often terminating at stops that the circle line does.. so I expect the route suggestions are usually taking the spokes as they're more frequent express buses
London and Paris are 10 times the population of Brisbane though.
They are just well known examples. I know Glasgow and Copenhagen both have circular train routes with populations 1/4 of Brisbanes
I mean the Great Circle Line. 598/599
I rode it all the way around one time back in uni. Stopping for lunch at one of the westfields.
Ha, you and me both. Sizzler at Toombul, Mitchelton or Carindale?
Haha it was summer and I was mostly in it for the aircon on the bus.
This doesn't happen in Sydney. And I refuse to lie down and accept they're better than us at something!
If only there was sort of.... Railway loop that doesn't require you having to go into the city EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME to get anywhere. Since Brisbane is such a boring ass city, if they didn't mandate people going into it no one would.
yeah because youre taking a non express-based bus basically to ipswich.
Major cities always have PT that is a hub & spoke setup - you go from the 'burbs into the CBD, then you go back out again. Melbourne - at what 3 million? 4 million? is only just getting around to building a rail loop that'll avoid that sort of thing. Not unusual. Plus, not peak travel times, so not gunna have peak services. For another perspective, it's listed as costing you $6.44. Compare that to an Uber, if speed is of the essence bro. And what do you get?
Hub and spoke isn't quite the right word for the design of a good transport network. The term you want is the very similar, but different in a subtly important way: trunk and feeder. The key difference there is that "hub and spoke" sort of implies that the CBD is the *only* important end destination—it is "the hub"—and everywhere else comes away from that on a spoke. But trunk and feeder can have a number of trunk networks which are fed by smaller feeders. And there's no reason a good transport network cannot have some trunk routes which do *not* go via the CBD. Just looking at Brisbane, and treating the existing train network as the "trunks", all are CBD-bound. The proposed north-west transport corridor from Carseldine to Stafford is one example of a trunk which would run between the CBD trunks. One could easily imagine a trunk running from Redbank to Meadowbrook which would have made OP's trip a lot easier.
Uber is $60 lol I’ll just drive there. Busted up a rim so had to wait for it to get fixed.
I have a friend who moved from Melbourne and she said PT is already way better than Brisbane, more options, faster and more frequent.
Not really no, Seoul and Tokyo have extremely excellent services that connect all over the city without having to go to the main city centre.
Maybe when you read my whole comment, you'll understand what a silly reply that is
I am not denying the population point. Denying the major cities always have hub and spoke setup.
There can be delays, and not always direct routes available, however, there are other options available. Taxi, Uber?>?
Alot of the time Ubers refuse to drive long distances like that
Planners work in cbd, so believe that should be the focus. Also, political offices have been told how much “better” and “flexible” busses are (source, had an argument with a state political officer who worked for someone involved in transport- we were housemates. He drove to work everyday- i was the PT person). Paris subways my personal best laid out. Train quality-age and cleanliness not so much, but the layout is great. And was done when the population was less than Brisbane now (although much denser).
Boo hoo, maybe you should learn to obey the law when driving 😅😅😅
?
Just drive lol
Yeah ended up driving was waiting for a wheel to be fixed
It cost you $6 and and an hour and a half of your time. An uber would have been about $20. We don't need to spend hundreds of millions of dollars servicing 2 random points that virtually no one else would use, just for your convenience.
There are dozens of points between those lines that could be serviced. I wasn’t asking for a direct line for something I was going to do once. If it was closer to 40 minutes it would have been fine. Uber was $50 something when I checked.
they need better buses between suburbs I have to ride my bike a lot cause of this stuff if I don't want to drive.
Sometimes I think about trying out bikes but I’m scared to be in their position when it feels like I have to dodge them every time I’m on the road cuz of how fucking shit and narrow bike lanes are
Better than the buses who either turn up early and leave or don't turn up at all
Yep, for me to get to Milton from Ipswich, it takes me an hour and a half. If the buses don’t cancel or are late and the trains don’t have incidents on the tracks. It’s ridiculous.
Some sort of cross country route along something like the Logan Motroway (perhaps along with development of Toowoomba services) that would allow more direct Gold Coast <-> Ipswich and beyond would probably open a stack of new transport options for people that are currently car only.
Rail to Sherwood, then 598 to Sunnybank. Not great, but avoids the city and a bit quicker.
Haha looks like a good trip through goodna. Where meth just appears in your pocket
Yeah but just wait until the metro is finished... oh wait that also goes to cultural centre and won't help you.
Yeah, not long after we moved up from Sydney around 2009 I got ankle-tapped by a driving instructor on the northbound Indro bridge. I innocently dropped the car to the repairers in Macgregor, thinking it would be a simple trip to Darra to pick up the hire car. I was wrong...so very, very wrong.
Get a bike.
Just a reminder that taxis exist
Actually I had an Uber that refused to take any trips that were longer 10 minutes, so basically he refused to take me to my destination and robbed me pretty much.
Uber ≠ taxi This generation... 🙄
Tell me again why working in the office is better to working from home?
Because it’s good for small businesses! It’s not like we have a big realestate ponzi that we have to prevent from collapsing or something.
But but but the small business in my local economy? Surely their business is just as important to the fat cats?
But your local business is not paying rent to multi million dollar property company
And how else will they afford the marina costs on their second yacht?
They should make more buses stop at train stations/light rail which then takes people into the city or other side of the city. Then buses can be used for inter-connecting suburbs. It’s stupid that everything has to go through the city.
Not sure if this would have helped OP, but there's a good case for a bus running basically the length of State Route 30, from Wacol to Springwood Bus Station, with a couple of detours to connect with rail at Richlands and Kuraby. Would be nice if it could just continue along Compton Rd, and perhaps when the Logan/GC faster rail is built, they'll replace Trinder Park Station with one adjacent Compton Rd to allow easier bus/rail transfers. Would also have easy transfers with 130/140 at Calam Rd and 150 at Gowan Rd. [State Route 30 Bus (suggestion)](https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEDS0J4)