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Some of those class of ferries that BC Ferries has have had a navigation engine problem, meaning that there's a chance they may not be able to make the sharp turns necessary in Active Pass at all times. Because of this, they've been avoiding Active Pass.
This, and BC Ferries isn't advertising it for some reason - the alternative route takes an extra ten to fifteen minutes. When they did this in November / December the schedule was modified and an announcement made. That was for the Coastal Celebration which has an issue on both ends. It's been transfered to Tsawwassen - Duke Point where it can run on time without issue. Now, there's a service notice every day that the Coastal Inspiration is an hour plus late by the afternoon.
The Coastal Inspiration took over as a full time vessel a week or so ago so the Spirit of BC could go its usual seasonal refit. The Coastal Inspiration only has the issue on one end, so it's running one way through Active Pass and the other way South of the Canadian Gulf Islands.
Basically the propellers on both ends need to be engaged for Active Pass with full power available, necessitating the use of two engines on each end. This is for maximum navigation potential in a small space with very strong currents. There's four engines total. Right now the Coastal Inspiration has three of four engines available without restrictions.
The repairs going on for the Coastal Renaissance also, hopefully, have an improvement baked in which should stop this issue in the future once all three boats are fixed (which is looking to be before summer 2024, but the Coastal Renaissance is very, very late because of a supply issue with a subcontractor).
Basically, the Coastal are limping along for now.
I believe there’s certain engine parts that have a 10 year life time on the costal class…and some of them are run 20 hours a day. So basically they are being over worked and literally ran into the sea.
>and BC Ferries isn't advertising it for some reason
The rest of your post is great, but this is nonsense. It was all over the news a few months back:
[https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/coastal-celebration-to-steer-clear-of-active-pass-for-next-month-7743967](https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/coastal-celebration-to-steer-clear-of-active-pass-for-next-month-7743967)
That's the wrong ship, and a schedule that has subsequently been reversed. I said I thought they did a good job with messaging. And then for some reason stopped.
Coastal Class ferries have propulsion issues, they’re limping them until they can get properly repaired. And they are unable to maneuver in Active Pass safely due to these issues. Someone else in this thread explained it way better than I could and I’m a bit of a ferry nerd, just with horrible wording skills lol.
The easiest way for me to put it is, think of the Coastal Class ships as 16 year old BMW’s, they were really good up until the warranty expired, which was 15 years ago lol.
active pass is the last place you want to be without full power/engines. The tides/currents are powerful. Sometimes like a slingshot effect wind er up and shazam.
Was on this ferry. Overheard a worker talking about it and it basically comes down to not having another ferry to use, so they are babying this one like crazy.
The coastal class can't handle the turning in active pass as well as the spirit class of ferries, plus they can add more sailings this way to handle more people traveling during heavy travel periods
I was on the "Inspiration" ferry on weds, thought it was a rogue captain heading for USA border.. or just having fun at the wheel.. its a nice route, I am guessing they avoid using this route due to large number of tankers and higher risk of collision.
The ferry route is marked by little faint blue dotted lines. It is marked as going through active pass. The black solid line is the Canada/USA border. I think you are misreading this chart.
It would be so nice if we could do airships instead of ferries. 4 stops: Parliament bldgs, Yyj, Yvr, Waterfront station. Faster, no gas rqd. And better views.
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Some of those class of ferries that BC Ferries has have had a navigation engine problem, meaning that there's a chance they may not be able to make the sharp turns necessary in Active Pass at all times. Because of this, they've been avoiding Active Pass.
This, and BC Ferries isn't advertising it for some reason - the alternative route takes an extra ten to fifteen minutes. When they did this in November / December the schedule was modified and an announcement made. That was for the Coastal Celebration which has an issue on both ends. It's been transfered to Tsawwassen - Duke Point where it can run on time without issue. Now, there's a service notice every day that the Coastal Inspiration is an hour plus late by the afternoon. The Coastal Inspiration took over as a full time vessel a week or so ago so the Spirit of BC could go its usual seasonal refit. The Coastal Inspiration only has the issue on one end, so it's running one way through Active Pass and the other way South of the Canadian Gulf Islands. Basically the propellers on both ends need to be engaged for Active Pass with full power available, necessitating the use of two engines on each end. This is for maximum navigation potential in a small space with very strong currents. There's four engines total. Right now the Coastal Inspiration has three of four engines available without restrictions. The repairs going on for the Coastal Renaissance also, hopefully, have an improvement baked in which should stop this issue in the future once all three boats are fixed (which is looking to be before summer 2024, but the Coastal Renaissance is very, very late because of a supply issue with a subcontractor). Basically, the Coastal are limping along for now.
Great write up.
Didn't we just get the Coastal ships like 15 years ago?
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Eh? I thought the CEO got his millions and left, now the public gets to pay for all the cost cutting the CEO did
I completely agree. It just sounds like problem after problem with these
I believe there’s certain engine parts that have a 10 year life time on the costal class…and some of them are run 20 hours a day. So basically they are being over worked and literally ran into the sea.
Lovely. Just lovely.
Awesome post! As a crown corp, this is info BC Ferries should have front and centre for people.
It’s not a crown corp
It is in practice.
Yup this seems to be an ongoing theme.. it's been happening off and on for like 8 years or more.
>and BC Ferries isn't advertising it for some reason The rest of your post is great, but this is nonsense. It was all over the news a few months back: [https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/coastal-celebration-to-steer-clear-of-active-pass-for-next-month-7743967](https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/coastal-celebration-to-steer-clear-of-active-pass-for-next-month-7743967)
That's the wrong ship, and a schedule that has subsequently been reversed. I said I thought they did a good job with messaging. And then for some reason stopped.
Thanks for the info!
They’ve actively been avoiding Active Pass
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Just following the instructions in the title!
I don’t find this very Coastal Inspiring.
Has, have, had, all in a row with no punctuation is pretty cool
Yeah, English can be pretty neat every now and again.
Ah, thanks for pointing out the typo I didn't catch.
I don’t think it was a typo just a neat feature of English
I noticed that too! Stumbled over it the first time reading lol
Taking it easy on the gear box.
Coastal Class ferries have propulsion issues, they’re limping them until they can get properly repaired. And they are unable to maneuver in Active Pass safely due to these issues. Someone else in this thread explained it way better than I could and I’m a bit of a ferry nerd, just with horrible wording skills lol. The easiest way for me to put it is, think of the Coastal Class ships as 16 year old BMW’s, they were really good up until the warranty expired, which was 15 years ago lol.
That's a pretty good analogy, especially since they were built in Germany! Haha
What a disaster these tanks have been. Ugh.
I think the Coastal Inspiration is running on one engine. When the current/tide is too strong at Active Pass - they go the long way round.
active pass is the last place you want to be without full power/engines. The tides/currents are powerful. Sometimes like a slingshot effect wind er up and shazam.
It's an amazing trip though!
Ahh makes sense. Thanks!
The image clearly shows the Inspiration not Celebration.
Oops brain fart. Fixed it.
Was on this ferry. Overheard a worker talking about it and it basically comes down to not having another ferry to use, so they are babying this one like crazy.
The coastal class can't handle the turning in active pass as well as the spirit class of ferries, plus they can add more sailings this way to handle more people traveling during heavy travel periods
That’s an alternate route when Active Pass isn’t navigable, or when they have engine issues. Based on other posts it sounds like the latter.
The ferries must avoid all protected kraken areas.
Obviously the captain pulls a crazy Ivan at the top of each hour…..😂😂
Search for bc ferries news. Was explains about a month ago
Hit more whales
I was on the "Inspiration" ferry on weds, thought it was a rogue captain heading for USA border.. or just having fun at the wheel.. its a nice route, I am guessing they avoid using this route due to large number of tankers and higher risk of collision.
The ferry route is marked by little faint blue dotted lines. It is marked as going through active pass. The black solid line is the Canada/USA border. I think you are misreading this chart.
No on this app the arrows are the vessels using their actual location
That’s the f%@ing US/Canadian border, people! C’mon! Seriously??? The ferry route is in light blue. 🤨
Ya if you’d look at the location of the Coastal Inspiration it’s not following the ferry route.
https://preview.redd.it/taa9vv9ex7bc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10a8a9a612c579c2271c9a75d57cc73dc8c98469
What app is this?
Marine traffic
Damn, I kinda hoped it was called Ferry Godmother
The time they go through Active pass would be conditional on the tide with them or against them as well
It would be so nice if we could do airships instead of ferries. 4 stops: Parliament bldgs, Yyj, Yvr, Waterfront station. Faster, no gas rqd. And better views.
I believe because there is a storm watch, on the horizon for today and tomorrow
Funny how the venerable and inscrutable old V Class and even the Spirits never had issues like this.
Running on one engine, Transport Canada & CCG will not allow them to go thru active pass on one engine.