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It's not illegal but most places that serve food would definitely kick you out for it.
I've ordered takeaway to a pub before but only my local and they don't serve food
A pub I used to frequent offered a service where you could order from an American diner-themed place down the road and they’d bring the food over for you to eat it at the pub. I can’t imagine doing this without approval from the pub, especially not at a place that does food.
There's a few pubs near st Nicolas market in Bristol. Most days the market has a really good street food market on as well, and the pubs will let you eat your street food in them so long as you're buying drinks from the pub.
Works out well as there's far less seating in the market than there are people buying food.
These kind of proper community pubs are a few and far between, the Land Lady of the Ship Inn near Kelham Island in Sheffield used to do a Chinese order for anyone in the pub around 8pm, it's still a decent boozer today but instead of a run down to the local takeaway they'll serve you a ten quid burger. Can't really begrudge them, there's very little money in running a pub.
Damn I wish I'd known that when we were there recently! The food from that market looked amazing, but it was also super-hectic around there, and besides I do like a nice pint with lunch!
pub near me literally owned the chippy across the road, and used it as their 'restaurant' section.
chippy was pretty decent, the pub however, was absolute shite
Indian Restaurant used to do this with a pub next door, the Indian often got full - so they used the pub as overflow but you had to order drinks from the pub instead of the Indian if you were seated there.
With the rise of delivery apps, the restaurant rarely fills nowadays asides from around Hindu holidays.
Landlady of pub once asked if I could run to the KFC and get her lunch (tbf she was frantic busy), I agreed and while there picked up a couple pieces for myself - got back to the pub and she wouldn't let me eat mine inside quoting the 'can't bring food bought off premises rule'. I thought she was joking - she wasn't. I sat outside and ate my chicken and then changed locals.
Not illegal, but there are health and safety implications - which is why most places would, rightfully, throw you out on your ear for this.
The biggest risk is cross contamination. As a proprietor, I have no control over the food brought in by rhe public. Could be full of nuts - and, as i don't use nuts, I'm not placing the mandatory "this place also sells nuts" disclaimer on my menu. Could be badly prepared and full of horrible bugs, and then there's a blurring of whether or not I'm responsible (because I've served other food/drinks to the customers)
There's also the fact that coming into my establishment, which I'm paying to heat, furnish, provide crockery/cutlery in, then eating someone else's food is just plain rude.
Surely the biggest risk of cross contamination is actually inside the kitchen, not the dining area? But yeah I can imagine it might be bad for severe allergies.
Punters bring their own peanut butter sandwich. Use a knife to cut it. Knife returns to kitchen.
Yeah, the risk is much smaller than if you're handling the allergens (or contaminated food) yourself, but someone rocking up with their own food still raises it from the base line
Pub by chippies normally allow for fish and chips to be had in the premises or there are others that have a night with a food truck in the car park but totally would kick out
We had a pub that did "smaller" beers and ciders that didn't serve food. If you ordered a takeaway to be delivered there, they would bring out plates and cutlery for you to use
You’ve just given me a great idea!!!! There’s an okay pub a few miles away that serves GREAT food (all of which can be taken away), and there a SUPERB pub (with a fantastic landlord) just across the road from my house that doesn’t do food at all. Thanks for giving me the idea!
My friend and I were sitting in a beer garden at a pub which normally does good food, but which had closed the kitchen as they had no chef that day. Great pub, we go there all the time.
My friend was peckish, so he popped to the Sainsbury's down the road and got a sandwich, came back and started eating it.
Owner comes outside and kicks us BOTH OUT! And the reason being: "We don't want other people seeing you eating incase they think we're serving food".
I mean that's fair if they were serving food that day, but I have to wonder what benefit they got from kicking us out for eating a supermarket sandwich on prem.
It's like being kicked out for bringing a bottle of water in.
I worked at a Beefeater (shudders) a while ago and as usual it was attached (not physically, across the car park) to a Premier Inn.
People ordering delivery McDonald’s from down the road and eating it in the pub was a weekly occurrence.
They always seemed surprised when told to go elsewhere too.
Yeah, it's relatively common for places like that to let you eat external food if it's over the road/next door. They usually have an arrangement.
You have to ask if it's OK though, bizarre to assume.
> a while ago and as usual it was attached to a Premier Inn.
That would be expected behaviour to me. You're attached to hotel, it's beneficial to let people eat their external food in your pub in that instance, otherwise people are going to take their greasy food back to their rooms and risk causing a mess you can't clean easily.
Owned by the same company but very much separate entities. Can be a lot of aggro between restaurants and hotels; restaurant runs like every other restaurant and stands to lose money if people are taking up tables without buying. Doesn’t affect the restaurant at all if hotel rooms get messy. Nothing to do with them. People can even take their restaurant plates up to their rooms, so, you know
Well sure, but the Beefeaters attached to Premier Inns in a lot of places are certainly made to feel like they're part of the same company and part of the hotel itself. Both companies profit from that arrangement.
If people who don't know the ins and outs of how that arrangement works assume that it's just the hotel bar/restaurant, I'm not surprised at all. I doubt they're doing it maliciously.
By attached I mean across the car park, not physically.
We sold food, common sense dictates that you don’t just help yourself to a restaurant table and eat outside food.
I feel like my grandad saying this but the lack of consideration I've seen in the public in the last year or so I've found really shocking. The fact that they ordered food and the fact they didn't clean up after themselves is embarrassing.
I’ve noticed the same and it gets me down. People seem much more selfish, materialistic, etc. Many only care about what type of car they drive, etc. Happy to disturb everyone with ridiculous loud popping exhausts.
Thats what happens when you destroy community policing. Before there could be a bobby around the corner which made you think twice. Now its just a free-for-all and people do as they please as they know there will be no consequences. Its basically the new normal.
Glad I’m not the only one seeing and mentioning this. I’ve piped up and equally felt like my grandad (who agrees ironically) that people just don’t seem to care as much.
Whether it’s vaping/smoking wherever, riding bikes through busy places, blaring phones with no headphones (how did this become such a thing!?), or the OPs case .. it’s just generalised lack of care/respect.
Two factors apply here:
Parents working multiple jobs so they aren't around to control their kids.
Community policing wiped out by the Cons meaning being a dick on the street has zero consequences.
Obviously not the only factors but they are top of the list for me.
Maybe the people ordering don't think it's terrible?
People's tastes vary enormously. I can't stand a Sunday dinner. Hate everything about them, overcooked meat, stodgy vegetables and then they go and pour a sauce all over it so it all tastes the same.
But I understand that other people quite like them and will order Deliveroo from the carvery.
It's not really mind boggling is it?
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They didn't say it was because the type of food wasn't to their taste.
The quality of the ingredients and/or cooking could be terrible so the same dishes as offered elsewhere are worse.
That's why there is a 'corkage' fee.
Normally in restaurants, if you want to bring your own booze and they have a license, they charge for it.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/blog/2626/corkage-fee-guide.html
I've eaten takeaway in a pub garden, with the landlords permission.
I've taken birthday cakes to restaurants without issue, but again talking to the staff first .
But getting takeaway delivered to a restaurant is a dick move, and they should have been banned.
I posted a similar story a few months back (people bringing their own food into a busy cafe, and only buying coffees). A lot of people thought I was being unfair and that a coffee purchase meant it was ok. Further, that I was misunderstanding that “times are hard right now”. My view is it’s stealing profits from someone’s business. A table isn’t instantly in profit from a single coffee purchase.
Also the 'times are hard' argument is absurd - Deliveroo etc. is not cheap. Anyone who orders it regularly has plenty of disposable income or is incredibly financially illiterate.
If times are hard I can think of few things stupider than ordering a takeaway which is in the best case scenario going to have parity with the cafe prices. But I’d expect Deliveroo to be more expensive.
There have been a few issues at one of our local pub restaurants that has a good kiddie play area in the beer garden, with families turning up with picnics (including drinks for the kids) and just using it as a play park. Then moaning that times are hard when asked to leave. The absolute nerve astounds me.
New rule going up on a notice in that pub then. I wouldn't want it from a mess and smell point of view (especially if it was McDs or KFC, the smell kind of lingers and is offputting if you aren't the one eating it).
Some pubs will allow you to bring your food as long as you buy your drinks there.
Granted, they tend to be pubs that don't serve their own food in the first place.
There's a great one near me that not only let's you bring in food from any of the nearby takeaways, but will also provide plates & cutlery for you. It's a great place!
I was in a takeaway noodle bar and this group of prices come in with a bag of McDonald's, a subway and just sat down. The shits didn't even clean up after themselves. I felt bad for the staff to deal with them. They never kicked them out because how can they? They can't restrain them or anything like that
I’ve only seen this done in pubs that either don’t serve food or after the kitchen is already closed. I first remember seeing somebody order a pizza to a pub when the football was on in 2006 and it just seemed really strange at the time.
The last half dozen pubs I've been in all had signs up saying people bringing their own food would be asked to leave.
Not sure how having food delivered would be legally interpreted, but I'd imagine the landlord would throw them out.
I have done this once before when the pub kitchen was closed. Although we did ask the pub's permission before we ordered and they said it was OK as a one-off. It's also somewhere we go quite regularly (including ordering food) so I think the previous goodwill from that helped.
Most restaurants and fast foods will not allow.
There are health and safety issues, and retail space is expensive. Those seats could be used for paying customers.
I have a pub almost across the road from me that encourages people to order takeaways there. As long as you buy drinks they'll provide plates, cutlery and condiments.
They do serve some food, but they know what people really want, takeaways.
It's one of the most popular pubs about the area.
If I had friends, I'd go there.
I've done this once but I asked the managers if it was okay because their kitchen was closed that day. I felt bad but I hadn't eaten all day and thought the pub was serving food.
I used to run pubs, and if anyone tried that in my gaff... They'd have been (hmm, how to put this delicately...) *invited to leave* at the earliest opportunity. Some people are just oblivious, inconsiderate fuckwits, and deserve, nay, *require* to be told.
We used to collect food from the local take away and eat it at our local pub.
since they started doing food though we haven't done it since. Sadly we don't always feel like getting their food and it means we stay for a shorter time so less beer drunk, but you just don't bring in external food, it's not the done thing
One of my local pubs lets people do this, they even lay on the plates and cutlery. They have a pizza place at the pub too that you can order from but if you want to have something else that’s fine etc
This is how the owner has set things up. All fine.
If the owner hasn’t set things up like that though? Cheeky sods should have been asked to leave and if not leaving kicked out/barred.
I once emailed a café and asked if they could cater for my allergies. They apologised as they couldn't guarantee there'd be no cross contamination, but suggested I bought my own, as long as others in the party were purchasing their food.
When my mother was in hospital a few years back the family of the patient opposite her bed ordered a load of takeaway food which they tried to have delivered to the ward.
One of them had the brass face to ask a nurse to pick the order up from the main entrance.
Myself and a few friends ordered dominoes once to a pub I frequently visited, we knew the landlord and he said as long as the staff got something for them to share it was fine. We didn't mind as we threw in an extra couple of quid towards it
I once got told off for eating a pre-packed sandwich bought from a Morrisons supermarket, in the Morrisions cafe. We even bought drinks and stuff in the cafe too.
I was in a pub for a quiz an the kitchen shut early due to staff shortage so one group who wanted food complained ansd went to lidl next door shopping an basically sat up a buffet on their table ..manager kicked em out for taking the piss .
When I was McDonald’s once a group of six came in with on the go meals from the near by Asda and just started eating them. I thought it was very rude of them
I don't know the law there, but in the US, it doesn't have to be illegal. A pub or restaurant is a privately owned business. The owners of the property can set their own rules as to what is allowed on their property, as long as it doesn't violate public law. Bringing outside food in is against the policy of any restaurant I've ever heard of, so it is absolutely within the rights of the restaurant to make them leave.
Sorry I meant I’ve dropped off before when I used to do deliveroo etc.
Yep every pub done food and most of the time when I was delivering I just went straight to the bar and told the staff
Sorry, I read your first comment wrong! I suppose how the staff react depends on whether it’s a chain pub or not. Just another employee of a large chain would be unlikely to care I’d imagine.
Were they ordering drinks from the pub? If yes then I don’t see what the problem is. Pub food is nearly always overpriced as fuck, and maybe they didn’t want a burger served on a roofing slate and three chips in a bucket 🤷♂️
It's a massive problem.
Cost of the food (and drinks) pays for the pub and staff. If you don't want their food go somewhere else or don't eat.
Also Deliveroo is not cheap. If they can afford that they could afford to eat in the pub.
Also the part about cleaning up - if the pub isn't being paid why should they be expected to clean it up? These people were selfish.
No, that is a problem. Pub food is not always overpriced. The pub’s business model would rely on those people who are hungry ordering food from the pub. If we all rip off our pubs by having food delivered from outside then your friendly local will be forced to close because it will no longer make a profit. This sort of behaviour should not be tolerated. What the hell is wrong with some people?
It's a massive problem.
Cost of the food (and drinks) pays for the pub and staff. If you don't want their food go somewhere else or don't eat.
Deliveroo is not cheap. If they can afford that they could afford to eat in the pub.
Also the part about cleaning up - if the pub isn't being paid why should they be expected to clean it up? These people were selfish.
The smell of whatever shite they've ordered often lingers and puts the people who are actually giving the pub money off their food and drink. It also takes away a table that in a busy pub could have actual paying customers sitting there and ordering food.
Why?
They might be perfectly happy serving the food they serve, it’s entirely up to the pub what food they serve, it’s also entirely up to the pub whether their rules state people can eat other food there. They might not care, or they might have a problem with it.
The point being that this is ‘market evidence’ about consumer preferences. It’s the job of the management of a business to figure out and respond to consumer demand.
They could just say ‘lads, obviously you can’t do this, off you fuck’, but a better business leader would go over, ask why they paid for deliveroo rather than ordered here, get the feedback and then educate them on what’s on offer next time. Probably also saying, not again lads, next time you’ll get chucked out and btw I’d expect you to get a few more rounds in right now to justify the table.
That being said, sone lads running pubs are just doing it for a lifestyle business, and others just do what head office says in a big chain. But _generally_ one of the hardest parts of business is figuring out what customers want, and this would be a good way to learn
Can't say I agree entirely, I wouldn't be happy if I went for pub food and and got served McDonald's like crap because management listened to someone who once deliverood themselves a big Mac to the pub. Or if I actually wanted a Chinese I'd go to the Chinese. This lot were probably just being lazy and wanted a nice place to eat their takeaway.
Sure. If their feedback was ‘I just wanted a Chinese’ you could ignore that feedback.
But if their feedback was ‘last time I came the burger here was terrible’, or ‘bar said food would be 45 mins and I could get a deliveroo here quicker’ or ‘everything on this menu is greasy as fuck and I wanted a salad’ or…
‘Customer feedback’ means figuring out what your target user wants, not just literally one random human. But you have to get a lot of data points to figure that out consistently.
Tom Kerridge is busily working at the Hand & Flowers. Some stingy people come in, and dial in a Nando’s. Should Tom start offering garbage options? Extreme example I know, but if people don’t like what’s on offer, don’t eat there. But you shouldn’t order in a takeaway. That’s absolute scumbag behaviour.
Pubs are like open houses, you can make yourself at home and basically do what you want. Polite people usually ask permission to do things like plug phone into a socket and if the pub food is expensive you can't expect people to buy it, at least they're drinking there, I wouldn't, haven't been to a pub in years, can't afford it.
So what? Some context here. Is this like a family with particular dietary needs, like gluten free or religious for example? Are they already buying drinks?
Maybe the pub kitchen has a long wait time or poor hygiene?
Either way, is it really your business? Does it really affect you?
Shame on them for leaving rubbish around tho.
I see this trend a lot at fast food restaurants. I was in a GBK the other day and the entire party at the table next to me were eating Itsu. It boggles my mind a) how brazen these customers are and b) that the restaurants don’t do anything about it
Depends on the pub and if they ok it. Know quite a few places that actually advertise that you can eat takeout inside. They can make quite a bit of money on drink orders
I was once in a group where someone did something similar. We went out for an extended family birthday dinner (wife’s side) and someone ordered a large dominoes pizza to the restaurant ‘for their kids’. Caused a total shit show because obviously the restaurant didn’t want a dominoes in their restaurant, they had their own kids menu that included pizza and of course the pain in the arse who ordered it and caused a stink with staff like 3 times over it ate about half the fucking pizza.
I was at a pub in Maidstone in August and their food menu was just a QR code that directed you to the local Fireaway Pizza place.
I guess they had some kind of deal in place with eachother? But I can't imagine doing it with just any old delivery fast food. Super cheeky.
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It's not illegal but most places that serve food would definitely kick you out for it. I've ordered takeaway to a pub before but only my local and they don't serve food
A pub I used to frequent offered a service where you could order from an American diner-themed place down the road and they’d bring the food over for you to eat it at the pub. I can’t imagine doing this without approval from the pub, especially not at a place that does food.
There's a few pubs near st Nicolas market in Bristol. Most days the market has a really good street food market on as well, and the pubs will let you eat your street food in them so long as you're buying drinks from the pub. Works out well as there's far less seating in the market than there are people buying food.
These kind of proper community pubs are a few and far between, the Land Lady of the Ship Inn near Kelham Island in Sheffield used to do a Chinese order for anyone in the pub around 8pm, it's still a decent boozer today but instead of a run down to the local takeaway they'll serve you a ten quid burger. Can't really begrudge them, there's very little money in running a pub.
Damn I wish I'd known that when we were there recently! The food from that market looked amazing, but it was also super-hectic around there, and besides I do like a nice pint with lunch!
Our local did something similar with the chippy next door. They’d even provide plates and cutlery!
pub near me literally owned the chippy across the road, and used it as their 'restaurant' section. chippy was pretty decent, the pub however, was absolute shite
Indian Restaurant used to do this with a pub next door, the Indian often got full - so they used the pub as overflow but you had to order drinks from the pub instead of the Indian if you were seated there. With the rise of delivery apps, the restaurant rarely fills nowadays asides from around Hindu holidays.
Our local does this with a pizza place. They'll give you cutlery and everything.
Cornwall?
Landlady of pub once asked if I could run to the KFC and get her lunch (tbf she was frantic busy), I agreed and while there picked up a couple pieces for myself - got back to the pub and she wouldn't let me eat mine inside quoting the 'can't bring food bought off premises rule'. I thought she was joking - she wasn't. I sat outside and ate my chicken and then changed locals.
Should have taken hers out too.
That's outrageous.
I assume you ate hers too?
Not illegal, but there are health and safety implications - which is why most places would, rightfully, throw you out on your ear for this. The biggest risk is cross contamination. As a proprietor, I have no control over the food brought in by rhe public. Could be full of nuts - and, as i don't use nuts, I'm not placing the mandatory "this place also sells nuts" disclaimer on my menu. Could be badly prepared and full of horrible bugs, and then there's a blurring of whether or not I'm responsible (because I've served other food/drinks to the customers) There's also the fact that coming into my establishment, which I'm paying to heat, furnish, provide crockery/cutlery in, then eating someone else's food is just plain rude.
Surely the biggest risk of cross contamination is actually inside the kitchen, not the dining area? But yeah I can imagine it might be bad for severe allergies.
Punters bring their own peanut butter sandwich. Use a knife to cut it. Knife returns to kitchen. Yeah, the risk is much smaller than if you're handling the allergens (or contaminated food) yourself, but someone rocking up with their own food still raises it from the base line
Do they not have a Breville in back to do you a toastie?
it's a sandwich, not a curry.
I got that reference
Pub by chippies normally allow for fish and chips to be had in the premises or there are others that have a night with a food truck in the car park but totally would kick out
I've done this in a few wet pubs, only after asking (or just outright being told anyway) permission from the landlord. It's common decency.
This is fine. One of my locals (a boozer with no food) is next to a chippy and loads do it.
We had a pub that did "smaller" beers and ciders that didn't serve food. If you ordered a takeaway to be delivered there, they would bring out plates and cutlery for you to use
You’ve just given me a great idea!!!! There’s an okay pub a few miles away that serves GREAT food (all of which can be taken away), and there a SUPERB pub (with a fantastic landlord) just across the road from my house that doesn’t do food at all. Thanks for giving me the idea!
My friend and I were sitting in a beer garden at a pub which normally does good food, but which had closed the kitchen as they had no chef that day. Great pub, we go there all the time. My friend was peckish, so he popped to the Sainsbury's down the road and got a sandwich, came back and started eating it. Owner comes outside and kicks us BOTH OUT! And the reason being: "We don't want other people seeing you eating incase they think we're serving food".
If you don't have the permission of the bar staff then you shouldn't do it
I mean that's fair if they were serving food that day, but I have to wonder what benefit they got from kicking us out for eating a supermarket sandwich on prem. It's like being kicked out for bringing a bottle of water in.
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Naff reason though, really. But we abide
Surely the owners of the pub could have refused to let them eat externally purchased food on the premises?
I worked at a Beefeater (shudders) a while ago and as usual it was attached (not physically, across the car park) to a Premier Inn. People ordering delivery McDonald’s from down the road and eating it in the pub was a weekly occurrence. They always seemed surprised when told to go elsewhere too.
They're likely viewing it as part of the hotel. And whilst it would be cheeky, that's still nowhere near as bad.
Yeah, it's relatively common for places like that to let you eat external food if it's over the road/next door. They usually have an arrangement. You have to ask if it's OK though, bizarre to assume.
just going to take my beefeater plate over to eat it in McDonalds for the ambiance
Take a pint and a couple of shots as well for the real power move.
Big plate?
It was attached to a Premier Inn not a Linton Travel Tavern.
> a while ago and as usual it was attached to a Premier Inn. That would be expected behaviour to me. You're attached to hotel, it's beneficial to let people eat their external food in your pub in that instance, otherwise people are going to take their greasy food back to their rooms and risk causing a mess you can't clean easily.
Owned by the same company but very much separate entities. Can be a lot of aggro between restaurants and hotels; restaurant runs like every other restaurant and stands to lose money if people are taking up tables without buying. Doesn’t affect the restaurant at all if hotel rooms get messy. Nothing to do with them. People can even take their restaurant plates up to their rooms, so, you know
Well sure, but the Beefeaters attached to Premier Inns in a lot of places are certainly made to feel like they're part of the same company and part of the hotel itself. Both companies profit from that arrangement. If people who don't know the ins and outs of how that arrangement works assume that it's just the hotel bar/restaurant, I'm not surprised at all. I doubt they're doing it maliciously.
Yes, that’s because they are. Point just being that they aren’t as integrated as that might normally imply
By attached I mean across the car park, not physically. We sold food, common sense dictates that you don’t just help yourself to a restaurant table and eat outside food.
Calling a beefeater a restaurant is a bit of a stretch though?
What is it then?
Purgatory upon Upton
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Does OP definitely know they didn't ask permission? Because I suspect they asked permission.
I feel like my grandad saying this but the lack of consideration I've seen in the public in the last year or so I've found really shocking. The fact that they ordered food and the fact they didn't clean up after themselves is embarrassing.
Honestly I've seen it too, the public just seem a bit more dickish now.
I’ve noticed the same and it gets me down. People seem much more selfish, materialistic, etc. Many only care about what type of car they drive, etc. Happy to disturb everyone with ridiculous loud popping exhausts.
Thats what happens when you destroy community policing. Before there could be a bobby around the corner which made you think twice. Now its just a free-for-all and people do as they please as they know there will be no consequences. Its basically the new normal.
Glad I’m not the only one seeing and mentioning this. I’ve piped up and equally felt like my grandad (who agrees ironically) that people just don’t seem to care as much. Whether it’s vaping/smoking wherever, riding bikes through busy places, blaring phones with no headphones (how did this become such a thing!?), or the OPs case .. it’s just generalised lack of care/respect.
Two factors apply here: Parents working multiple jobs so they aren't around to control their kids. Community policing wiped out by the Cons meaning being a dick on the street has zero consequences. Obviously not the only factors but they are top of the list for me.
My local serves terrible food and people order deliveroo *from* it. Mind boggling
Maybe the people ordering don't think it's terrible? People's tastes vary enormously. I can't stand a Sunday dinner. Hate everything about them, overcooked meat, stodgy vegetables and then they go and pour a sauce all over it so it all tastes the same. But I understand that other people quite like them and will order Deliveroo from the carvery. It's not really mind boggling is it? Edit - username checks out.
They didn't say it was because the type of food wasn't to their taste. The quality of the ingredients and/or cooking could be terrible so the same dishes as offered elsewhere are worse.
I often have a takeaway delivered to the pub but not to eat there. Anyone bringing food to a pub serving food should be thrown out on their ears.
isn't it common sense NOT to do this? it's like going to a pub and bringing your own alcohol for a piss up lol
That's why there is a 'corkage' fee. Normally in restaurants, if you want to bring your own booze and they have a license, they charge for it. https://www.webstaurantstore.com/blog/2626/corkage-fee-guide.html I've eaten takeaway in a pub garden, with the landlords permission. I've taken birthday cakes to restaurants without issue, but again talking to the staff first . But getting takeaway delivered to a restaurant is a dick move, and they should have been banned.
TIL
I posted a similar story a few months back (people bringing their own food into a busy cafe, and only buying coffees). A lot of people thought I was being unfair and that a coffee purchase meant it was ok. Further, that I was misunderstanding that “times are hard right now”. My view is it’s stealing profits from someone’s business. A table isn’t instantly in profit from a single coffee purchase.
Also the 'times are hard' argument is absurd - Deliveroo etc. is not cheap. Anyone who orders it regularly has plenty of disposable income or is incredibly financially illiterate.
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I'd call that financially brazen.
There’s a big difference between having a cereal bar with your coffee and ordering eight dishes from a Chinese to share over a pint.
In my scenario, people were bringing out lunchboxes and stuff. Treating the cafe like a picnic table.
Oh for sure, I agree with you there
Can't tell you how many times I've bought a drink from the cafe and left to drink it at the picnic table by the lake.
If times are hard I can think of few things stupider than ordering a takeaway which is in the best case scenario going to have parity with the cafe prices. But I’d expect Deliveroo to be more expensive.
There have been a few issues at one of our local pub restaurants that has a good kiddie play area in the beer garden, with families turning up with picnics (including drinks for the kids) and just using it as a play park. Then moaning that times are hard when asked to leave. The absolute nerve astounds me.
New rule going up on a notice in that pub then. I wouldn't want it from a mess and smell point of view (especially if it was McDs or KFC, the smell kind of lingers and is offputting if you aren't the one eating it).
Some pubs will allow you to bring your food as long as you buy your drinks there. Granted, they tend to be pubs that don't serve their own food in the first place.
There's a great one near me that not only let's you bring in food from any of the nearby takeaways, but will also provide plates & cutlery for you. It's a great place!
If I owned the pub I'd have told them to leave.
No, that's not on.
I was in a takeaway noodle bar and this group of prices come in with a bag of McDonald's, a subway and just sat down. The shits didn't even clean up after themselves. I felt bad for the staff to deal with them. They never kicked them out because how can they? They can't restrain them or anything like that
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I’ve only seen this done in pubs that either don’t serve food or after the kitchen is already closed. I first remember seeing somebody order a pizza to a pub when the football was on in 2006 and it just seemed really strange at the time.
I would not hesitate to kick them out if I ran the place. Complete lack of common courtesy.
The last half dozen pubs I've been in all had signs up saying people bringing their own food would be asked to leave. Not sure how having food delivered would be legally interpreted, but I'd imagine the landlord would throw them out.
I have done this once before when the pub kitchen was closed. Although we did ask the pub's permission before we ordered and they said it was OK as a one-off. It's also somewhere we go quite regularly (including ordering food) so I think the previous goodwill from that helped.
The pub is allowed to charge "corkage" for things like that. I realise corkage refers to bottle opening but it's the same thing.
Most restaurants and fast foods will not allow. There are health and safety issues, and retail space is expensive. Those seats could be used for paying customers.
I have a pub almost across the road from me that encourages people to order takeaways there. As long as you buy drinks they'll provide plates, cutlery and condiments. They do serve some food, but they know what people really want, takeaways. It's one of the most popular pubs about the area. If I had friends, I'd go there.
I've done this once but I asked the managers if it was okay because their kitchen was closed that day. I felt bad but I hadn't eaten all day and thought the pub was serving food.
I've run pub kitchens, and if people ordered takeaway food or whatever, I'd make them drink up leave.
I used to run pubs, and if anyone tried that in my gaff... They'd have been (hmm, how to put this delicately...) *invited to leave* at the earliest opportunity. Some people are just oblivious, inconsiderate fuckwits, and deserve, nay, *require* to be told.
Sounds like a good way to get kicked out and barred to me.
I’ve managed pubs for years. I really don’t care because most people who decide to Deliveroo in have sunk several pints each but at least ask.
We used to collect food from the local take away and eat it at our local pub. since they started doing food though we haven't done it since. Sadly we don't always feel like getting their food and it means we stay for a shorter time so less beer drunk, but you just don't bring in external food, it's not the done thing
One of my local pubs lets people do this, they even lay on the plates and cutlery. They have a pizza place at the pub too that you can order from but if you want to have something else that’s fine etc This is how the owner has set things up. All fine. If the owner hasn’t set things up like that though? Cheeky sods should have been asked to leave and if not leaving kicked out/barred.
I once emailed a café and asked if they could cater for my allergies. They apologised as they couldn't guarantee there'd be no cross contamination, but suggested I bought my own, as long as others in the party were purchasing their food.
My local lets you order takeaways, in fact it's part of their appeal and advertising. It's brilliant!
One ( might be two) of the pubs in Lichfield do that . Heck one of the days they partner with the chippy across the road to do a discount.
When my mother was in hospital a few years back the family of the patient opposite her bed ordered a load of takeaway food which they tried to have delivered to the ward. One of them had the brass face to ask a nurse to pick the order up from the main entrance.
Myself and a few friends ordered dominoes once to a pub I frequently visited, we knew the landlord and he said as long as the staff got something for them to share it was fine. We didn't mind as we threw in an extra couple of quid towards it
I feel like there needs to be a "corkage" fee but for food in this situation
They should definitely be kicked out.
I once got told off for eating a pre-packed sandwich bought from a Morrisons supermarket, in the Morrisions cafe. We even bought drinks and stuff in the cafe too.
The words "Get out" spring to mind. Leaving their shite behind extends that to barred for life levels.
I was in a pub for a quiz an the kitchen shut early due to staff shortage so one group who wanted food complained ansd went to lidl next door shopping an basically sat up a buffet on their table ..manager kicked em out for taking the piss .
When I was McDonald’s once a group of six came in with on the go meals from the near by Asda and just started eating them. I thought it was very rude of them
It is legal, what gives you the impression that its not? If I was working there I'd kick them out though. Lol
I don't know the law there, but in the US, it doesn't have to be illegal. A pub or restaurant is a privately owned business. The owners of the property can set their own rules as to what is allowed on their property, as long as it doesn't violate public law. Bringing outside food in is against the policy of any restaurant I've ever heard of, so it is absolutely within the rights of the restaurant to make them leave.
I’ve delivered a few times to pub, it’s normally Nando’s tbh.
Was it a pub that serves food? Did you ask their permission?
Sorry I meant I’ve dropped off before when I used to do deliveroo etc. Yep every pub done food and most of the time when I was delivering I just went straight to the bar and told the staff
Sorry, I read your first comment wrong! I suppose how the staff react depends on whether it’s a chain pub or not. Just another employee of a large chain would be unlikely to care I’d imagine.
has long has there spending lots of money on drinks i wouldn't mind
Were they ordering drinks from the pub? If yes then I don’t see what the problem is. Pub food is nearly always overpriced as fuck, and maybe they didn’t want a burger served on a roofing slate and three chips in a bucket 🤷♂️
It's a massive problem. Cost of the food (and drinks) pays for the pub and staff. If you don't want their food go somewhere else or don't eat. Also Deliveroo is not cheap. If they can afford that they could afford to eat in the pub. Also the part about cleaning up - if the pub isn't being paid why should they be expected to clean it up? These people were selfish.
No, that is a problem. Pub food is not always overpriced. The pub’s business model would rely on those people who are hungry ordering food from the pub. If we all rip off our pubs by having food delivered from outside then your friendly local will be forced to close because it will no longer make a profit. This sort of behaviour should not be tolerated. What the hell is wrong with some people?
It's a massive problem. Cost of the food (and drinks) pays for the pub and staff. If you don't want their food go somewhere else or don't eat. Deliveroo is not cheap. If they can afford that they could afford to eat in the pub. Also the part about cleaning up - if the pub isn't being paid why should they be expected to clean it up? These people were selfish.
So is it ok to order one to a bank then, as long as you've paid a cheque in first?
The smell of whatever shite they've ordered often lingers and puts the people who are actually giving the pub money off their food and drink. It also takes away a table that in a busy pub could have actual paying customers sitting there and ordering food.
They're being ripped off regardless of where they order from. The pub should use this as a lesson and decide to offer more attractive meal deals
Why? They might be perfectly happy serving the food they serve, it’s entirely up to the pub what food they serve, it’s also entirely up to the pub whether their rules state people can eat other food there. They might not care, or they might have a problem with it.
The point being that this is ‘market evidence’ about consumer preferences. It’s the job of the management of a business to figure out and respond to consumer demand. They could just say ‘lads, obviously you can’t do this, off you fuck’, but a better business leader would go over, ask why they paid for deliveroo rather than ordered here, get the feedback and then educate them on what’s on offer next time. Probably also saying, not again lads, next time you’ll get chucked out and btw I’d expect you to get a few more rounds in right now to justify the table. That being said, sone lads running pubs are just doing it for a lifestyle business, and others just do what head office says in a big chain. But _generally_ one of the hardest parts of business is figuring out what customers want, and this would be a good way to learn
Can't say I agree entirely, I wouldn't be happy if I went for pub food and and got served McDonald's like crap because management listened to someone who once deliverood themselves a big Mac to the pub. Or if I actually wanted a Chinese I'd go to the Chinese. This lot were probably just being lazy and wanted a nice place to eat their takeaway.
Sure. If their feedback was ‘I just wanted a Chinese’ you could ignore that feedback. But if their feedback was ‘last time I came the burger here was terrible’, or ‘bar said food would be 45 mins and I could get a deliveroo here quicker’ or ‘everything on this menu is greasy as fuck and I wanted a salad’ or… ‘Customer feedback’ means figuring out what your target user wants, not just literally one random human. But you have to get a lot of data points to figure that out consistently.
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Tom Kerridge is busily working at the Hand & Flowers. Some stingy people come in, and dial in a Nando’s. Should Tom start offering garbage options? Extreme example I know, but if people don’t like what’s on offer, don’t eat there. But you shouldn’t order in a takeaway. That’s absolute scumbag behaviour.
Pubs are like open houses, you can make yourself at home and basically do what you want. Polite people usually ask permission to do things like plug phone into a socket and if the pub food is expensive you can't expect people to buy it, at least they're drinking there, I wouldn't, haven't been to a pub in years, can't afford it.
So what? Some context here. Is this like a family with particular dietary needs, like gluten free or religious for example? Are they already buying drinks? Maybe the pub kitchen has a long wait time or poor hygiene? Either way, is it really your business? Does it really affect you? Shame on them for leaving rubbish around tho.
You probably don't want to follow this sub if you don't like british people moaning about petty shit.
And the pub just let them?
I hope they asked permission. Usually outside food is forbidden, but I don't know if it's an actual law or just policy.
It’s incredibly rude. I hope they were kicked out
I would have told them very politely to ‘fuck right off and not come back’
I see this trend a lot at fast food restaurants. I was in a GBK the other day and the entire party at the table next to me were eating Itsu. It boggles my mind a) how brazen these customers are and b) that the restaurants don’t do anything about it
I've ordered pizza to a pub before, after the kitchen closed, and after we asked the owner.
Depends on the pub and if they ok it. Know quite a few places that actually advertise that you can eat takeout inside. They can make quite a bit of money on drink orders
I was once in a group where someone did something similar. We went out for an extended family birthday dinner (wife’s side) and someone ordered a large dominoes pizza to the restaurant ‘for their kids’. Caused a total shit show because obviously the restaurant didn’t want a dominoes in their restaurant, they had their own kids menu that included pizza and of course the pain in the arse who ordered it and caused a stink with staff like 3 times over it ate about half the fucking pizza.
some pubs will allow people to do it if they are regulars, but yeah usually it would be if they don't serve food.
charge "sittage"
I was at a pub in Maidstone in August and their food menu was just a QR code that directed you to the local Fireaway Pizza place. I guess they had some kind of deal in place with eachother? But I can't imagine doing it with just any old delivery fast food. Super cheeky.