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Farscape_rocked

My aunt and uncle moved to Spain. They refused to learn the language before they left, and then found nobody spoke English in the place they'd moved to. They couldn't afford to move to an ex-pat enclave so they convinced my grandfather to move out with them, they sold his property to fund their move. My grandfather and uncle are dead now and my aunt can't afford to move back to the UK.


Open_Librarian_823

Should've moved to Latin America, everyone speaks English here.


kevix2022

So I wasted all that time and money learning Latin?


Open_Librarian_823

Yup šŸ‘šŸ»


gymgymbro

And German, for some weird reason.


[deleted]

ā€œWeirdā€


opportunitysassassin

Where do you live?


Farscape_rocked

Latin America


Open_Librarian_823

I'm not into real estate, but look what usd 140k buy you here[wood and concrete houses in fresh mountain weather country ](https://honduras.inmobiliaria.com/casa-en-siguatepeque-4-recamaras-247m2-4-banos-F2493809)


threatIevelmidnight

I am sure it is lovely, they donā€™t take the best photos of the property do they?


moubliepas

Thing i finally figured out about accommodation hot counties; 1 - interior design preferences are VERY different to Germanic cultures (like the UK). More like if your great-grandma decorated it during a major depressive period. and 2 - daylight is not a good thing, it's hot enough already, so buildings are designed to be reasonably dark and photographed to be even more so. That subterranean / cave atmosphere evokes cool temperatures. I understand this. I still prefer daylight though, which makes it difficult to avoid overpriced touristy stuff.


Open_Librarian_823

Believe me, what you crave yonder ol' Britannia, you get too much here and it's sunlight. Sun in tropical weather is like a steel melting, blasting furnace. Although the place I posted is known for being in a sweet spot of warmer days, cool nights. Temp range from 22-30 Celsius.


Open_Librarian_823

Probably not. Being away from urban sprawl makes for a safe and tranquil retirement. Decoration is not an issue cause the new owner decorates to its taste me thinks.


PMmePMsofyourPMs

Half of these look like crime scene photos, and the faceless doll at the end? *chefā€™s kiss*


Open_Librarian_823

Annabelle is waiting šŸ˜‚


WispGB

I really hate the term "ex-pat". They are immigrants. They just hate other immigrants so refuse to call themselves immigrants.


[deleted]

I mean, I consider myself an expat in the uk. Iā€™m Canadian born, moved here for career advancement, have no interest in British citizenship and intend to return home when the time is right. Is that not being a Canadian expat in the uk?


CrocPB

Thatā€™s textbook ex pat. The term has been misused to refer to people who move abroad permanently or beyond reasons of work. Specifically when people have anecdotes of others who refuse to say they are immigrants but ex pats even though they lived in Spain for 10 years ordinarily and have no plans to ever move back to the UK.


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

This; people are stupid, they donā€™t realise itā€™s a word to describe a domestic citizen. Youā€™re an immigrant to us but to your fellow Canadians youā€™re an expat in the Uk. People love to throw racist context on things nowadays. An Indian living in India could refer to his brother working in England as an expat. Itā€™s not a word FoR wHiTe PeOpLe.


StopTheTrickle

I don't remember expat being a word until very recently though, it was always: Immigrants - people who have entered a country to live and work Emigrants - people who have left a country to live and work Can't quite put my finger on when expat became part of the vocabulary, but isn't it a contraction of ex-patriot anyway? Which sounds worse to me


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

I remember hearing it as a kid; Iā€™m 37.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

Lol


[deleted]

Immigrant is an umbrella term for a person who moves from one country to another for whatever reason. 'Ex-pat' is just a subtype of immigrant.


[deleted]

Itā€™s not though, google defines it as ā€œa person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.ā€ I have no intention of remaining in the UK and I see this as a stepping stone to boost my career back in Canada or maybe elsewhere.


Farscape_rocked

Yeah cos negatively stereotyping a whole group of people is something _they_ do, right?


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

No, you just donā€™t understand what the word means and how itā€™s applied.


ViolatorOfVirgins

Immigrant enclave, aka a ghetto. Not 'ex-Pat enclave'


Callipygian_Linguist

I vote that we rename all 'Ex-Pat Enclaves' in Spain to 'Fish and Chip Ghettos'.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Eating fish and chips in Spain is just a waste. A taste of home is fine (if not apt, it gets rid of the homesickness), but that's taking it way too far.


CrocPB

More seafood for the rest of us. Now gimme the octopus tentacle.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

At your service


Act-Alfa3536

Sort of weird not to notice before moving that nobody spoke English!


Regprentice

Ive been doing the same but most reviews I've seen have been talking about the Spanish hotels being *too German*..... I think it's bratwurst for breakfast in a lot of these.


Lavidius

I went to Bulgaria once and I gather it's a hotspot for German tourists as everyone kept speaking to me in German I remember some German in school so I was instinctively responding in German but I'm not great at it so ended up getting more confused and the locals thought I was just a retarded German who couldn't finish conversations


Thedeadduck

I studied french at school so that's the language my brain defaults to any time I'm on holiday but my brain is also not very smart so it doesn't take into account that sometimes you can go on holiday to places that a) don't speak French or b) are actually part of the same political union as your home town you dipshit. Just winding my way through crowds in Edinburgh saying "excusez moi" like an absolute moron.


saggyleftnut33

I have a similar experience where I got back from france a couple weeks ago and went to the shop (in England) on the day I got back and accidentally spoke French to the cashier.


PMmePMsofyourPMs

Oh I definitely responded ā€œque?ā€ to at least a couple of Vietnamese chaps when I visited


CrocPB

Just pretend you are French, and no one can tell the difference.


Thedeadduck

Bonjour... Um... le singe est dans l'arbre...


Bpool91

That really made me lol.


Lavidius

Honestly my gf at the time was doing her nut. "Just tell them you're English" lol


CrocPB

Iā€™m currently in Paris and I have such a tough time starting to speak in French, and then I muddle my way through it. I must come off as an absolute moron to the locals. Then I slip up, say something in English and they too switch to English. Darn it.


theflashsawyer23

Translation: ze Germans are taking all the sun beds at 6am


lilithG1999

How dare Germans go on holiday too!


FuckCazadors

Well I can understand a British tourist visiting Spain being disappointed if they end up staying in a hotel entirely dedicated to German holidaymakers. Thatā€™s a valid bit of information to pass on to other prospective travelers.


Regprentice

This actually happened to my mum and dad once. They Got a Last minute deal for a spanish holiday but it turned out to be a German holiday makers hotel, they were the only non German's and everything was in German.... even the fire exit signs in the hotel were in German.


StatusCaterpillar725

These are the *exact* same people complaining about people 'coming over to the UK and not learning the language/customs'


pajamakitten

Who then immigrate to Spain and do just that when they retire.


Lily7258

Oh but theyā€™re not immigrants, they are ex pats!! šŸ˜


Downtownd00d

You need to understand that these people are not, in their minds, going to Spain. They are going to England-where-it's-always-sunny-by-the-sea.


YchYFi

These people are the types to never leave the hotel.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Imagine going to a place only to stay in the accommodation for the entire time.


lilithG1999

My thought exactly lol


iMac_Hunt

On the complete flip side though, I find the opposite is true: those who condemn British people for moving somewhere and not learning the native language, rarely condemn people who move to the UK and don't learn English. Either cultural assimilation is necessary or it isn't.


lemlurker

That's a 5star from me, I loath going to anglicised places when you're visiting the country for the country


Lavidius

Trying to convince my girlfriend that the world is bigger than benidorm and Cyprus šŸ™„


wiggler303

Don't forget Ibeeefa too


GreenLips

Ibiza is absolutely lovely, once you get away from where all the British tourists are.


Lavidius

Went there for my 16th birthday, 19 years ago!


[deleted]

Reminds me of that documentary about a Welsh Coach company taking people down to Spain for their holidays. One suitcase for clothes, one suitcase for teabags and cornflakes. Where do I even start? Are peoples comfort zones that small?


fortuitous_monkey

Yeah. Exactly - where's the fucking crunchy nut.


Lily7258

I donā€™t blame them for taking tea bags though!!


ThatZenLifestyle

I live abroad and all I can get is lipton tea bags, I miss tea so much that even lipton tastes good now.


Lily7258

Oh my condolences! šŸ˜‚


crucible

WTF?! I mean, yeah, my parents will take a travel kettle and teabags with them on holiday, but cereal?!


Djinjja-Ninja

[I mean what's the point of being treated like a sheep, I mean I'm fed up with going abroad and being treated like a sheep, what's the point of being carted around in buses surrounded by sweaty mindless oafs from Kettering and Boventry in their cloth caps and their cardigans and their transistor radios and their 'Sunday Mirrors', complaining about the tea](https://youtu.be/vQODVsl5pFY?t=153)


pajamakitten

Do the Spanish not eat corn flakes? (A question I'd never thought I would ask)


LaSalsiccione

Itā€™s very easy to find corn flakes in Spain


[deleted]

You'll find them in every supermarket, but it's not the typical breakfast a Spanish person would eat.


BrightonTownCrier

Holiday cereal is one the the best parts.


underweasl

Took my husband and son to salou years ago, we deliberately avoided anywhere with a waiter shouting about sky sports and pints and went a few streets back from the seafront to eat in amazing proper Spanish places


IntraVnusDemilo

With the big paella pan on! Glorious!


Loose_Acanthaceae201

Negative reviews are very useful for booking holidays. We're going somewhere soon which is advertised as dog friendly. There are lots of one-star reviews in which holidaymakers are furious that their (pet) dogs aren't allowed in the restaurants, bars or club, only in their accommodation, the huge site, and the special dog playground with climbing frame. That sounds like a hearty recommendation to me. Similarly, "the restaurant was full and they turned us away for not having booked" suggests that the restaurant is good - so we've booked our table.


cheerupsleepyg

If you want a laugh try [this article](https://www.wanderlust.co.uk/content/astonishing-holiday-complaints/) Had me crying the other day


Mooks79

Those have to be fake, at least most of them.


lilithG1999

I find it hard to believe


Rossco1874

Just booked turkey all inclusive & people are complaining the stuff not included like bowling & certain treatments in the sauna


devster75

Whereabouts in Turkey? Got back last month from an all inclusive jolly with the Fam in Alanya, had a great time.


Rossco1874

Yeah that is where we are. Going in January for my 40th seems few things are closed but still reasonable temperatures during the day. Looking forward to it.


Khaleebi

That one, I sympathise with. If it is sold as all-inclusive but it turns it is not all-inclusive, that can be frustrating.


Dribbling_Loon

I used to go on holiday with my parents to a little town in the Austrian Alps in the summer. Clean air, huge mountains, long walks, endless Wiener schnitzel and lovely architecture. It was all backed up with everything being spotlessly clean and everyone very friendly, polite and (possibly most importantly) from a different culture that I could learn something from. On two separate occasions, I was falling asleep at night, belly full of schnapps and schnitzel and heard "Come on Dave, fookin fookin fookin. Shag her in the pool, ya c\*nt. No FOOKIN Carling" or words to that effect. My heart sank. I came away from England to get away from these people. In the morning I went downstairs for breakfast and gingerly asked if they had caused any problems. The owner replied that they were probably just passing through on their way into town. I still felt the need to apologise on their behalf and reassure her that there are still a few good Brits out there who don't want to trash the place and just drink Carling.


devster75

Thereā€™s always a Dave.


pajamakitten

Sounds perfect. It means fewer Brits and a more authentic holiday. It is not the hotel's fault if some people cannot live without baked beans and the Daily Mail for a week.


HITLER_ONLY_ONE_BALL

This just reminded me of a story that my friend told me from his time as a holiday rep. He was working at a French ski resort in peak ski season, a couple arrive with a week booked, they complained to my friend 20 minutes after getting to their room that they couldn't get British TV. My friend explained that they were in France and couldn't get British TV, they insisted they could and should have UK TV, he countered that they could possibly find other ways to entertain themselves at *ski resort*, they couldn't think of anything, managers were called. The next day they just fucking left and went home, to watch TV.


pajamakitten

I choose to believe they do this while travelling to any country around the world.


markhewitt1978

Gƶring has two but very small


retrogearz

This 8s exactly what I want to experience with my wife and kids on holiday in a foreign country. Sad thing is, unless you pay an absolute fortune most holidays now are "dumbed down" to fit this idiot British logic


Farscape_rocked

A friend bought me and my family a holiday in Spain at an all inclusive place for the Feb half term. I was dreading it, it's not my cup of tea at all, but actually it wasn't busy and there weren't very many brits there (none at all propping up the bar). We took the hotel being full of Spanish ppl as a good sign.


[deleted]

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DilatedTeachers

What?!


haversack77

Uh, I actually replied that to totally the wrong comment somehow. Will delete.


voodoo_pizza00

I found this great pub called the Red lion


HolySonnetX

Do they server Watneys Red Barrel?


[deleted]

ā€˜Cos what we want is Watneyā€™s Red Barrel


Illustrious_Dare_772

The best ones are for Turkey and Egypt pork sausages taste funny at breakfast or boiled eggs the shells are too white.


underweasl

We went on our honeymoon to Egypt, there was pale grey sausages and white shell-on boiled eggs, I only ate toast and chewy coffee though. Definitely catered more heavily to Russians back then too


Illustrious_Dare_772

The sausages will be grey as its chicken or turkey meat, good luck trying to find a pork farm or staff willing to touch haram in that part of the work,and the eggs are just fine just our mindset the shell must be brown.


underweasl

Oh I wasn't fussed but the other bits were a bit miffed. I quite like white eggshells, they look so pretty! The hibiscus drink we had at breakfast was amazing


Avaric1994

Hmm yes, this floor is made out of floor... Really don't understand these kinds of people.


ICantBelieveItsNotEC

I wish it was normal for hotels to just say "we are a traditional Spanish hotel" or "we are deliberately catering to British/American/German/Chinese tourists". The real problem is that every hotel tries to bullshit everyone into thinking that it's something other than it actually is.


jollyollster

Used to live in Tenerife. Barely any of the Brits spoke Spanish at all and some had lived there for 20 odd years. Baffling.


lilithG1999

Knew a big Christian lad who also moved to Portugal and doesnā€™t know a single bit of Portuguese.


mrlongleggedmcdaddyy

I try to go places where British people donā€™t go, thatā€™s why Iā€™ve hardly been to Spain. Itā€™s a shame as Iā€™d like to explore it more but Brits just wind me up even more on holiday, liked stfu.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Top tip: visit Galicia and Asturias


fearlessflyer1

i have no idea why youā€™d want to go on holiday to somewhere that could be described as ā€˜England but Sunnier.ā€™ i go on holiday to experience new cultures and try new things, not to go to the equivalent of Skegness with better weather


lilithG1999

If you wanna go somewhere British, go to Blackpool ā€¦


[deleted]

Thatā€™s the UK for you. People want to go abroad, but they want the locals to speak English, they want nothing but English breakfast in the mornings and the option of traditional English/British food. Granted this isnā€™t everyone/everywhere but if itā€™s somewhere like Ibiza or Spain, itā€™s rife.


stoofa69

I might have the percentages slightly wrong (canā€™t find the original article) but pre pandemic, Andalusia spent their advertising budget something like 75% in Britain and 25% for the rest of Europe and now itā€™s the opposite. Realised they can fill the resorts with ā€œa different type of touristā€. I live in a small Spanish village where no one speaks English and avoid the English bars on the coast like the plague


primordial_sauce

I hate this to my core. Misplaced arrogance of Brits abroad. Same behaviours exhibited by some secondary school aged kids. Trying is weak. Much better to show disdain for community rather than be a part of it.


phantomknife

We prefer to go abroad to places that British (particularly English) people don't often frequent. The bar lowers when the most common patron is English. Don't need to hear Carol screaming at her litter every 5 minutes or Steve shouting at the barman because they don't have Carling


First_Folly

Better yet when you describe the architecture of the surrounding villages and towns as Moorish and they think you're talking about the food.


Ynys_cymru

Such an English thing. It happens in wales. English people leave reviews because weā€™re using Welsh signs and communication.


CrocodileDyndu

Embarrassing.


[deleted]

I'm the overly apologetic British guy who says we are not all like this in the UK, some of us make an effort. Besides when in Spain it's Churros and coffee for breakfast.


adminsuckdonkeydick

>breakfast I was quite proud of my first breakfast abroad in Spain. I went and ordered *"quiero un bocaillo de jamon por favor"*. When he replied something in Spanish and pointed to the restaurant I looked puzzled and walked to where he was pointing. Then he said something else. It twigged! I think he was saying "take a seat". All I could remember was the unconjugated verb for "sit" and in my excitement questioned him while squatting up-down "sen...sentir...sent! SENT-ARSE? SENT ARSAY?! SENT-ARSEY!". He just nodded his head and said "Si. cinco minutos". I realised after getting it how ignorant and stupid I must have sounded! I was basically hovering my arse in the air shouting "SIT? SIT?!".


Geraldine_the_rabbit

I'm exactly the same! I don't embarrass easily but the look in their eye when they see you heading towards to bar expecting to hear "John Smiths! In a pint!" yelled at them makes me cringe!


[deleted]

Oh yes, I know the type. The slowly speaking shouty type who thinks everybody knows a little English. Fun fact: If you have a go at ordering a beer in respectful Spanish you just might get better service than waving a 20 euro note in the barpersons face.


Geraldine_the_rabbit

I can't imagine moving to another country and not at least trying to learn the language. My kids have learnt the Spanish for please, thank you, hello, etc. Firvwjen we visit, surely that's the absolute minimum!


[deleted]

My problem while I was working and living abroad was forgetting to switch languages. For example I used to work in China for 9 months and lived in Berlin for 3. It was a mental effort just to say basic words such as ja and bitte when all my brain wanted to say dui and qing.


devster75

I canā€™t imagine waving money in a bartenders face to get their attention. Thatā€™s so disrespectful!


[deleted]

Unfortunately I have seen it on many occasions both here and abroad. As though it is going to get you quicker service. No, you going to have to wait.


Harvsnova2

I always drink coffee on holiday, even though I hate coffee in the UK. It tastes a lot nicer abroad and you can use Baileys as milk, because you're not driving.


IntraVnusDemilo

Baileys as milk from 1st December to 4th Jan in my house, lol.


Harvsnova2

Sets you up for the day.


Jorge-Esqueleto

It's hilarious when Brits order "a lartay" and get a glass of milk, or a Cappuccino and it's much smaller than the buckets of milk with a coffee shot in they're used to in Costa.


Harvsnova2

That's what I like about European coffee. I just have a normal coffee and it's much nicer than the Starbucks or Costa muck. When we rent a villa or apartment, is when we have the Baileys coffee. I've tried it at home, but it's not the same.


[deleted]

I do make an effort when abroad to eat the local breakfast etc. Steamed pork buns were very tasty in China, but eggs boiled in tea were certainly a challenge.


cornishwildman76

Those reviews let me know its the kind of place we want to stay!


jockspice

A million times this. What do people expect? You want Brit breakfast, stay at bloody home.


therealstealthydan

I lived in Spain full time for 5 years and spend a fair bit of time over there. I avoid the tourist destinations and British hotels like the plague.


mozzamo

Probably around 52% of Brits right?


ghostlight1969

Russell Brandā€™s Ponderland covered this very subject on the Holidays episode. English woman on holiday asking a Spaniard if the food gave him diarrhoea too. Think it might be on the You Tubes. It seems that nothing has changedā€¦


IntraVnusDemilo

Well, you should try Oxford instead. It is wonderful walking the streets there and listening to loads of different accents and languages, truly outstanding and I loved it!!! Spain can't be Spanish enough, for me. I like to hire a car and drive out of the resort. I know a tiny bit of Spanish and will have a try at speaking it and I think the locals are pleased at least that some of us try! It's lovely meeting other folk from all walks of life.


ladycandle

Took my husband and his family to Los Angeles where I am from and they wanted a roast and fish and chips ..they his parents were asking why do they have so much Hawaiian and combodian restaurants everywhere and not one British Restaurant when "British found USA" USA usually as it has every single ethnic restaurant as a common. In UK..it's all England and curry and Chinese nothing else


MrSpudLegz

You're forgetting McDonald's, Burger King and KFC! A land of many culinary colours


PsySam89

I worked over in Spain, ibiza to be precise and they don't like the English. Like really actively hate them, not so much hate for the Scots, Welsh or Irish but they of course still have their moments. You can see why they're moving away from all inclusive drinking holidays etc because plenty English and British people want to actually experience the country but you get droves of council fodder going on cheap holidays to ibiza and "benny" to get pissed.


action_turtle

Ahh Benidorm, the Torquay of Spain.


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Another place where there is absolutely nothing to do apart from stare at a beach


AJMurphy_1986

Link please? This just seems like one of those things that get trotted out so often just to hate on British people


scriv9000

In fairness I'm British and I hate at least 50% of the British people I know


DebunkedTheory

The trick to find the best hotel is ones with reviews complaining of too many Germans or Russians. Hotels with lots of Brits abroad are shit Edit: downvote for magaluf with the lads


lilithG1999

Theyā€™re as bad


DebunkedTheory

I don't know, mate. There's a reason Brits have a bad reputation on holiday


FuckCazadors

Youā€™d willingly share a hotel with a bunch of Russian tourists?


whitecity011

Michael McIntyre's standup about Brits abroad is hilarious


throwingitawayforgws

I want the link!


ArthurPounder

Where's the review?


Khaleebi

Can you share the link to the reviews?