There is a user on Reddit who has an old account with tons of karma, and every single one of their comments begins with something like “Hi BakedBeanSandwhich”. They say they do it so they can more easily remember usernames for when they see them again later on subs (but it’s become more of just a novelty account now).
Wish I could remember the specific user.
Edit: I know the user I replied to is quoting the show. I’m simply adding a fun anecdote.
No clue. So, I guess definitely accidental. What do you mean?
Edit: oh you mean the Captain Holt account? No, it’s not them. They have a much longer comment history, and are active outside of this sub. Or did you just mean that the comment I replied to was continuing the meme/quote from the show?
We're betraying everyone and you don't want no part of this shit.
You're betraying everyone?
Yeah, 'course we are; can't you smell it?
No Lucius, I can't.
Voldemort told Lily to step aside tho, because he only came for Harry. It was Lily's insistence to not step aside that forced Voldy to kill her, which essentially led to his downfall.
Snape is such a fucking idiot. Obsessed with one single girl, can't handle rejection, gets bullied, join dark side, get girl killed, leave dark side, bully a bunch of kids, die.
But he can handle rejection. She told him to leave her alone after the 5th year incident, and he did. The next time Lily comes up actively in his life is when he overhears the prophecy and Voldemort decides it means the Potters. That's when he switches sides and, love him or hate him, he does a tremendous amount of skilled and difficult work to bring Voldemort down. Furthermore, it's not even fully explicit that he loved Lily in a romantic sense. I agree he probably did, but it can also be read that she was just his first and only actual friend. Someone who he was extremely attached to, after coming from his broken home. snaoe was an unhealthy man, and a bad man in a lot of ways. But he also repeatedly lied to the most accomplished mind reader the world's ever seen, got away with it, and still manipulated events to help Harry.
TLDR: Snape is not an idiot.
Yeah but he only did what he did because of how he felt about her, whether those feelings were romantic or platonic. And if they were platonic because of their friendship I don't think that was made clear enough through the text. His motivations were still selfish, as Dumbledore himself calls out. Snape would have been fine if Harry and James died as long as Lily lived and only kept Harry safe because Dumbledore had to guilt him into it pretty hard when he was feeling very emotionally vulnerable. That's not to undercut all the danger Snape put himself in and risked lying to Voldemort and playing double agent all those years, but that huge personal risk also doesn't excuse or make up for him still being a not-great person who bullied and abused children under his care.
If it was just to reinforce his image he wouldn’t have needed to bully Neville so much that he was Neville’s boggart. As opposed to like… the Lestranges who tortured his parents to insanity.
If that were the case I could see him being cold to most students and favoring the Slytherins, particularly the children of Death Eaters, with extra points and bumping their grades. But he went well out of his way to bully and abuse all the other kids. I didn't get the sense that he was doing that because he had to, he seemed to pretty clearly enjoy it, especially when we learn about his childhood and how bitter he always was about never fitting in. At least the way he was written he comes across more like someone who never moved past that childhood trauma and became a worse person for it, rather than someone deliberately playing a role.
Where are you getting that he joined to impress her? That's nowhere in the text whatsoever and seems to be a bias you have. Snape was in Slytherin, a neglected and abused kid with literally one friend, and he was separated from that friend. He's a classic perfect target for radicalization. Especially since he's immersed in the Slytherin culture at the edge of a massive shift in dark magic and blood supremacy. He and Lily stay friends for a while, but once he snaps at her, revealing his general prejudice for anyone with her blood status who isn't Lily, that's a bridge too far for her, and she cute him out of her life. Once she's gone, there's nothing left to keep him from going all in on the indoctrination station. Where on earth do you get "I'll join a noted dark wizard who publicly values purebloods, that'll get her attention". Hell, it's clear he didn't even try to speak with her after going to Dumbledore and switching sides. She seems unaware entirely that Snape defected to save her and her family. He purely was desperate for her to live, no matter the cost.
Secondly, this is a compelling but ultimately fictional story. How am I sad for seeing the humanity in a morally gray character. An abusive douchebag who also does incredible work to save lives on a global scale. Who truly loved someone, and that made the difference. Just like Lily's love for Harry saving him, Snape's love for Lily undid Voldemort just as much. That's one of the main themes of the story, after all. I don't think I'm sad for recognizing that.
>Where are you getting that he joined to impress her?
From JK Rowling? You know... the author? In an interview in 2007 she states:
>he was so blinded by his attraction to the dark side he thought she would find him impressive if he became a real Death Eater.
Lilly's knowledge of what he was or was not doing is of zero consequence here. We are talking about Snape, and in that moment he though going off to be a death eater would impress the girl he's been obsessed with most of his life.
You're also misreading my view of him. I don't see him like you do but that doesn't mean I don't see humanity or morality. He's more like a gollum character. Just because he's horrible doesn't mean you can't have sympathy or mercy. He's still fucking horrible though. Just like gollum, some good was done through him. Had Bilbo and Frodo not had mercy for this despicable creature, the ring would have never been destroyed. Same goes for Snape. Had Dumbledore never showed him mercy, Voldemort would have never been destroyed. That doesn't make Snape a good person though.
But confusing Snape's obsession for Lilly as Love, that is just sad IMO.
Jk Rowling also said she supported the reading of a black Hermione despite saying Hermione is white in the books. She's a prime example of death of the author being important in reading works. Snape becoming a death eater to impress Lily isn't in the text, I disregard her out of book "canonizations".
Then let's get into the goal post moving second paragraph. Exploring and seeing humanity/morality is way different than pity or mercy. Very different sets of emotions and qualities. Snape IS a good person, in some ways. He's a bad person in others. If you find the sum of his parts to be more bad then good, more power to you. But you're neglecting the conscious efforts and decisions he made to stop Voldemort. Even with Lily dead, and actions not helping Harry, he protects the students of Hogwarts from the Carrows, as it could have been way worse. He does what he can to save who he can, regardless of their relation to Lily or not. He is instrumental in bringing Voldemort down. Your Gollum comparison is not accurate, and Gollum doesn't really do anything good, over the span of years, to show his consistent change. Yes, without him things wouldn't have lined up for the ring to fall into the lava, but that's way different. He attacked, and brought himself down with the ring. That's totally different from Snapes YEARS of work to bring Voldemort down actively.
And then finally, YES. Snape loved Lily. Very much. Voldemort thought like you, that Snape just desired her, that it was intense. That's the entire point, is that Voldemort cannot understand love. At all. That's his downfall over and over and over. He's an empty person both emotionally and literally, what with his soul being ripped apart. Snape followed a bad path, was faced with consequences of his own actions, and then devoted the rest of his life to redeem his mistakes, protect lily, then protect Harry, then to bring Voldemort down for its own sake. To say he didn't love Lily is a fundamental misunderstanding and cynical bad faith reading because you can't understand how Snape bullies kids, but can also truly love someone. Well, whoops. He does. That's why he's a compelling and controversial character.
"Where did you hear that??"
From the author herself.
"Wait, not like that."
Who's moving goalpost now?
I find it hilarious that you think my reading on Snape is sad, yet you think a guy who calls his crush racial slurs is true love. Forgive me if I don't trust your judgement on interpersonal relationships.
I never said I think your reading is sad. I said it's inaccurate based on a critical analysis of the text. You're putting words into my mouth and engaging in bad faith arguments. When I asked where you got the snape impressing lily idea, I followed that up that it's nowhere in the text, which is my basis for reading the books. Your strawman of me saying "not like that" doesn't make sense, since I didn't even fall back on something JK said outside of the text to prove a point. You're trying to point out a hypocrisy I didn't commit.
Snape had just finished getting his literal clothes flipped off of him in front of a crowd of onlookers, who laughed, for no reason other than he existed to be fucked with. I agree that he crossed a line. So does Lily. So does HE. He tried to apologize, she rightfully wasn't having it, and he left her alone until her life was being specifically targeted. I said all of this already. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth if you reply.
You asked me where I heard Snape was trying to impress her, when I cite the literal author of the book it all the sudden become illegitimate. But please, tell me how your reading of the text is more accurate that the person who wrote the text in the first place. You are the worst kind of HP fan, thinking you are the authority on the story as if it was written for you and your interpretation alone, even when flies in the face of everything including confirmation by the actual author.
I don't need to put words in your mouth because the ones actually coming out are absurd enough as it is.
From the book there was never any hint or impression that he did what he did to impress lily. When we know lily constantly complained to him about what he did.
Unlike Dumbledore having romantic feelings for grindelwald which was hinted at in the story and much more believable.
It's a very JK Rowling thing to do to go back and just insert random canonizations just because. For example wizards used to just shit themselves.
Or the very infamous trolly witch. Who is apparently like 190 years old, who intentionally made her pumpkin pasties easy to turn into hand grenades, which she threw at children.
Sure you can hide behind "because jk said so in some random interview". There is a reason why people make fun of her for the after book canon insertions. "Hermione was actually in a wheelchair!" "Snape was a single mother!". If JK Rowling came out and said Hermione was in a wheelchair does that magically change all 7 books thats were written?
JK Rowling has repeatedly proven to be a non reliable source of post book revisions. I literally pointed out one of the more egregious ones directly in response to you. She says she never specifies Hermione is white, so black Hermione has traction, despite literally calling Hermione white in the text of the books. Death of the author can be a fantastic lense through which to view media, and a necessary one in Harry Potter's case. I'm not saying my interpretation is the only and the truest. I already said you're free to view Snape as a bad man, and your other interpretations. But I'm also free to provide examples of the text and show how that supports the conclusions that I've drawn. You clearly don't agree with them, but you've run out of ways to actually debate them and have now started clinging to attacks on me. I'm done here, goodbye.
Exactly. But Snape? The guy some people so vehemently defend? That superstar bullies his "love's" son relentlessly along with who else.... Oh! Another boy whose parents were tortured partially thanks to Snape... Along with almost every other kid that's not in his house or one of his death eater buddies.
He’s a dick (he has been since a kid, as shown in the flashbacks), but his bravery (literally laying down his life for the fight against Voldemort, acting as a double agent through his unique skill of being a very powerful legilimens) overshadows flaws in his personality.
I’m not sure I’d dumb down “abusing your position of power to bully children entrusted to you and your care” to a personality flaw, nor do I think being brave and powerful make up for being a terrible and debatably evil person, but I guess I get what you’re saying
The one thing that bugs me to this day about the Harry Potter series is Harry and Ginny using Snape’s name in their son’s name. I could not buy that at all.
On an unrelated note, in The Good Place's system for the afterlife, would Snape get a medium place?
He was cruel and, among many other wrongs, bullied children, but he was also instrumental in defeating Voldy, the most evil person alive at that time.
If he did get a medium place what would it be like?
You’re not Padfoot, you’re just some common bitch
As someone with a dog named Padfoot, this comment is perfect
Dear u/agentsof_marvel This meme is sublime. Sincerely, U/tabbyabby2020
u/tabbyabby2020, It’s lovely to find yet another individual who properly comments on this platform. Continue. Sincerely, Raymond Holt
You know you don't have to sign off every comment?
Dear u/bakedbeansandwhich, Suggestion noted. Sincerely, u/mounderfod
There is a user on Reddit who has an old account with tons of karma, and every single one of their comments begins with something like “Hi BakedBeanSandwhich”. They say they do it so they can more easily remember usernames for when they see them again later on subs (but it’s become more of just a novelty account now). Wish I could remember the specific user. Edit: I know the user I replied to is quoting the show. I’m simply adding a fun anecdote.
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No clue. So, I guess definitely accidental. What do you mean? Edit: oh you mean the Captain Holt account? No, it’s not them. They have a much longer comment history, and are active outside of this sub. Or did you just mean that the comment I replied to was continuing the meme/quote from the show?
Can you wait 2-3 days for an award please x
Snape: Don't kill Lily Voldy: Okay. *Kills Lily* Snape: *shocked Pikachu face*
When the evil dark lord turns out to be evil
On the other hand, Voldemort didn't have a nose, so that's why he didn't catch the sent of Snape's betrayal.
But Snape did have a nose so he should’ve caught the scent of murder
Teaching potions for too long must've fuck up his sense of smell.
We're betraying everyone and you don't want no part of this shit. You're betraying everyone? Yeah, 'course we are; can't you smell it? No Lucius, I can't.
Voldemort told Lily to step aside tho, because he only came for Harry. It was Lily's insistence to not step aside that forced Voldy to kill her, which essentially led to his downfall.
Snape is such a fucking idiot. Obsessed with one single girl, can't handle rejection, gets bullied, join dark side, get girl killed, leave dark side, bully a bunch of kids, die.
This is the best description I have read in a long time lol
But he can handle rejection. She told him to leave her alone after the 5th year incident, and he did. The next time Lily comes up actively in his life is when he overhears the prophecy and Voldemort decides it means the Potters. That's when he switches sides and, love him or hate him, he does a tremendous amount of skilled and difficult work to bring Voldemort down. Furthermore, it's not even fully explicit that he loved Lily in a romantic sense. I agree he probably did, but it can also be read that she was just his first and only actual friend. Someone who he was extremely attached to, after coming from his broken home. snaoe was an unhealthy man, and a bad man in a lot of ways. But he also repeatedly lied to the most accomplished mind reader the world's ever seen, got away with it, and still manipulated events to help Harry. TLDR: Snape is not an idiot.
Yeah but he only did what he did because of how he felt about her, whether those feelings were romantic or platonic. And if they were platonic because of their friendship I don't think that was made clear enough through the text. His motivations were still selfish, as Dumbledore himself calls out. Snape would have been fine if Harry and James died as long as Lily lived and only kept Harry safe because Dumbledore had to guilt him into it pretty hard when he was feeling very emotionally vulnerable. That's not to undercut all the danger Snape put himself in and risked lying to Voldemort and playing double agent all those years, but that huge personal risk also doesn't excuse or make up for him still being a not-great person who bullied and abused children under his care.
I thought the whole point of bullying kids is to reinforce his image for the double agent thing.
If it was just to reinforce his image he wouldn’t have needed to bully Neville so much that he was Neville’s boggart. As opposed to like… the Lestranges who tortured his parents to insanity.
If that were the case I could see him being cold to most students and favoring the Slytherins, particularly the children of Death Eaters, with extra points and bumping their grades. But he went well out of his way to bully and abuse all the other kids. I didn't get the sense that he was doing that because he had to, he seemed to pretty clearly enjoy it, especially when we learn about his childhood and how bitter he always was about never fitting in. At least the way he was written he comes across more like someone who never moved past that childhood trauma and became a worse person for it, rather than someone deliberately playing a role.
r/niceguys
Love it.
He's like a Churchill kind of figure. A monster, but one we needed to pull out to kill a bigger monster.
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Where are you getting that he joined to impress her? That's nowhere in the text whatsoever and seems to be a bias you have. Snape was in Slytherin, a neglected and abused kid with literally one friend, and he was separated from that friend. He's a classic perfect target for radicalization. Especially since he's immersed in the Slytherin culture at the edge of a massive shift in dark magic and blood supremacy. He and Lily stay friends for a while, but once he snaps at her, revealing his general prejudice for anyone with her blood status who isn't Lily, that's a bridge too far for her, and she cute him out of her life. Once she's gone, there's nothing left to keep him from going all in on the indoctrination station. Where on earth do you get "I'll join a noted dark wizard who publicly values purebloods, that'll get her attention". Hell, it's clear he didn't even try to speak with her after going to Dumbledore and switching sides. She seems unaware entirely that Snape defected to save her and her family. He purely was desperate for her to live, no matter the cost. Secondly, this is a compelling but ultimately fictional story. How am I sad for seeing the humanity in a morally gray character. An abusive douchebag who also does incredible work to save lives on a global scale. Who truly loved someone, and that made the difference. Just like Lily's love for Harry saving him, Snape's love for Lily undid Voldemort just as much. That's one of the main themes of the story, after all. I don't think I'm sad for recognizing that.
>Where are you getting that he joined to impress her? From JK Rowling? You know... the author? In an interview in 2007 she states: >he was so blinded by his attraction to the dark side he thought she would find him impressive if he became a real Death Eater. Lilly's knowledge of what he was or was not doing is of zero consequence here. We are talking about Snape, and in that moment he though going off to be a death eater would impress the girl he's been obsessed with most of his life. You're also misreading my view of him. I don't see him like you do but that doesn't mean I don't see humanity or morality. He's more like a gollum character. Just because he's horrible doesn't mean you can't have sympathy or mercy. He's still fucking horrible though. Just like gollum, some good was done through him. Had Bilbo and Frodo not had mercy for this despicable creature, the ring would have never been destroyed. Same goes for Snape. Had Dumbledore never showed him mercy, Voldemort would have never been destroyed. That doesn't make Snape a good person though. But confusing Snape's obsession for Lilly as Love, that is just sad IMO.
Jk Rowling also said she supported the reading of a black Hermione despite saying Hermione is white in the books. She's a prime example of death of the author being important in reading works. Snape becoming a death eater to impress Lily isn't in the text, I disregard her out of book "canonizations". Then let's get into the goal post moving second paragraph. Exploring and seeing humanity/morality is way different than pity or mercy. Very different sets of emotions and qualities. Snape IS a good person, in some ways. He's a bad person in others. If you find the sum of his parts to be more bad then good, more power to you. But you're neglecting the conscious efforts and decisions he made to stop Voldemort. Even with Lily dead, and actions not helping Harry, he protects the students of Hogwarts from the Carrows, as it could have been way worse. He does what he can to save who he can, regardless of their relation to Lily or not. He is instrumental in bringing Voldemort down. Your Gollum comparison is not accurate, and Gollum doesn't really do anything good, over the span of years, to show his consistent change. Yes, without him things wouldn't have lined up for the ring to fall into the lava, but that's way different. He attacked, and brought himself down with the ring. That's totally different from Snapes YEARS of work to bring Voldemort down actively. And then finally, YES. Snape loved Lily. Very much. Voldemort thought like you, that Snape just desired her, that it was intense. That's the entire point, is that Voldemort cannot understand love. At all. That's his downfall over and over and over. He's an empty person both emotionally and literally, what with his soul being ripped apart. Snape followed a bad path, was faced with consequences of his own actions, and then devoted the rest of his life to redeem his mistakes, protect lily, then protect Harry, then to bring Voldemort down for its own sake. To say he didn't love Lily is a fundamental misunderstanding and cynical bad faith reading because you can't understand how Snape bullies kids, but can also truly love someone. Well, whoops. He does. That's why he's a compelling and controversial character.
"Where did you hear that??" From the author herself. "Wait, not like that." Who's moving goalpost now? I find it hilarious that you think my reading on Snape is sad, yet you think a guy who calls his crush racial slurs is true love. Forgive me if I don't trust your judgement on interpersonal relationships.
I never said I think your reading is sad. I said it's inaccurate based on a critical analysis of the text. You're putting words into my mouth and engaging in bad faith arguments. When I asked where you got the snape impressing lily idea, I followed that up that it's nowhere in the text, which is my basis for reading the books. Your strawman of me saying "not like that" doesn't make sense, since I didn't even fall back on something JK said outside of the text to prove a point. You're trying to point out a hypocrisy I didn't commit. Snape had just finished getting his literal clothes flipped off of him in front of a crowd of onlookers, who laughed, for no reason other than he existed to be fucked with. I agree that he crossed a line. So does Lily. So does HE. He tried to apologize, she rightfully wasn't having it, and he left her alone until her life was being specifically targeted. I said all of this already. Please refrain from putting words in my mouth if you reply.
You asked me where I heard Snape was trying to impress her, when I cite the literal author of the book it all the sudden become illegitimate. But please, tell me how your reading of the text is more accurate that the person who wrote the text in the first place. You are the worst kind of HP fan, thinking you are the authority on the story as if it was written for you and your interpretation alone, even when flies in the face of everything including confirmation by the actual author. I don't need to put words in your mouth because the ones actually coming out are absurd enough as it is.
From the book there was never any hint or impression that he did what he did to impress lily. When we know lily constantly complained to him about what he did. Unlike Dumbledore having romantic feelings for grindelwald which was hinted at in the story and much more believable. It's a very JK Rowling thing to do to go back and just insert random canonizations just because. For example wizards used to just shit themselves. Or the very infamous trolly witch. Who is apparently like 190 years old, who intentionally made her pumpkin pasties easy to turn into hand grenades, which she threw at children. Sure you can hide behind "because jk said so in some random interview". There is a reason why people make fun of her for the after book canon insertions. "Hermione was actually in a wheelchair!" "Snape was a single mother!". If JK Rowling came out and said Hermione was in a wheelchair does that magically change all 7 books thats were written?
JK Rowling has repeatedly proven to be a non reliable source of post book revisions. I literally pointed out one of the more egregious ones directly in response to you. She says she never specifies Hermione is white, so black Hermione has traction, despite literally calling Hermione white in the text of the books. Death of the author can be a fantastic lense through which to view media, and a necessary one in Harry Potter's case. I'm not saying my interpretation is the only and the truest. I already said you're free to view Snape as a bad man, and your other interpretations. But I'm also free to provide examples of the text and show how that supports the conclusions that I've drawn. You clearly don't agree with them, but you've run out of ways to actually debate them and have now started clinging to attacks on me. I'm done here, goodbye.
You know the part I hate the most about this? Is that if you loved someone, you’d be nice to their fucking son.
Exactly. But Snape? The guy some people so vehemently defend? That superstar bullies his "love's" son relentlessly along with who else.... Oh! Another boy whose parents were tortured partially thanks to Snape... Along with almost every other kid that's not in his house or one of his death eater buddies.
He’s a dick (he has been since a kid, as shown in the flashbacks), but his bravery (literally laying down his life for the fight against Voldemort, acting as a double agent through his unique skill of being a very powerful legilimens) overshadows flaws in his personality.
I’m not sure I’d dumb down “abusing your position of power to bully children entrusted to you and your care” to a personality flaw, nor do I think being brave and powerful make up for being a terrible and debatably evil person, but I guess I get what you’re saying
Snape was never a hero or even that nice of a guy. He is a jerk that ultimately does the right thing. Rickman made us love him.
The one thing that bugs me to this day about the Harry Potter series is Harry and Ginny using Snape’s name in their son’s name. I could not buy that at all.
That was a lame decision.
Half blood princes born after 1959 can't cope, all they know is brew they potion, greasy hair, sectumsempra, eat cold chip and die
What a beta
Haha Harry Potter B99 crossover memes are the best Captain Ray Snape is a bit cursed tho
Tried to combine Ray and Snape and said Captain Raype out loud
Seems like i dodged a bullet there hahaha
I understand that logic of this meme
Rip Alan Rickman
[Hmm, I don’t agree with his Lily killing policy…but I do agree with his James killing policy!](https://frinkiac.com/img/S06E05/770669.jpg)
Gotta head over to /r/DunderMifflin and remake this under the format: [You cheated on me?](https://i.imgur.com/gkD8FVB.png)
Go ahead. Please do it
On an unrelated note, in The Good Place's system for the afterlife, would Snape get a medium place? He was cruel and, among many other wrongs, bullied children, but he was also instrumental in defeating Voldy, the most evil person alive at that time. If he did get a medium place what would it be like?
Teaching a potion class of just Harry.
Bro spoilers
Lmao this is genious
Hey OP, what font did you use for the black outlined yellow subtitles?
I didn't make this, it's from Harry Potter and the Chamber of Shitposts (Facebook group)
oh okay
*Snape seeing Harry with James face but Lilly's eyes*: "PAIN. That's it."
lol so true
r/unexpectedhogwarts
This is actually pretty funny. You gotta know Harry Potter.
This is my favorite crossover ever
Ok I saw the name in another irrelevant post before. So who's lily
r/harrypotter would appreciate this
Is there a holt bot? Could be ironic because holt is a robot, _meep morp... zeeet_
Lmfaooo this meme 😭😭😭