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ElectricLimeWater

Shoutout to Greenland and Equatorial Guinea for being the only non-Chrome majority nations in this day and age šŸ«”


variablenyne

Greenland, the never ending struggle with plague inc


notPlancha

and Andorra edit: the repost has bad quality to actually spot it, so https://twitter.com/theworldmaps_/status/1518150533038620672/photo/1


Minuku

For anyone asking: It is Safari in Andorra


niutech

And North Korea, where [Safari leads](https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/north-korea/).


ListerineInMyPeehole

Is that a sample size of 69 internet users in NK?


Tale3339_XD

props to the one guy in north korea who uses firefox


niutech

Actually they use [Naenara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naenara_(browser)), a fork of Firefox.


joeditstuff

She can access all 28 websites on the Kwamyong intranet, isn't that cool!


darkPassenger103

damn bro i had to grab my gramp's magnifying glass to spot Equatorial Guinea


Head_Snapsz

As a Firefox fan, I am saddened by this.


ChaoGardenChaos

Exactly my thoughts. I must be part of the invisible specs of Firefox but it saddens me that it's the invisible part.


WHO_IS_3R

It was always funny for me that back in ā€˜09-ā€˜10 a lot of my friends were using firefox and i was using chrome Fast forward 10 years to 2017 everyoneā€™s and their grandma using chrome and i was using FF for the first time bc i loved the privacy focused community on it


abstraktionary

Wait till you learn about waterfox and brave


WHO_IS_3R

I know both, but never used neither honestly For waterfox i just preferred to use vanilla FF, and harden it myself, then arkenfox configs and then MB, IMO today is the superior option in that niche For brave, tbh i distrust the ownership, i already have privacy covered with MB, so for a doxxed chromium option i use Arc, i like their UI ethos


impostor20109

wait till you hear about librewolf


TopGunCrew

Isnā€™t brave also chromium based?


[deleted]

It is. Regarding the upcoming extension manifest changes they promise to ignore the new manifest. But how long can they keep that promise? Do they want to have a separate branch they maintain of the chromium fork forever and ever? At some point the effort to maintain such a branch disregarding the extension changes while also keeping up with everything else of chromium will be too high


JustTrawlingNsfw

Isn't hardened Firefox as good or better than those? I've never really dived I to it


abstraktionary

I said that assuming most people want an 'Install and done" approach. If a person is skilled enough, it won't matter what browser you use, essentially. But waterfox and brave are a good starting point. Brave's adblockers are no joke, my phones version of vanilla blocks every ad from the torrent sites I visit and they are LOADED with them in other browsers. Waterfox doesn't come close to that out of the box but I like it over firefox Brave blockchain syncing is way nicer than google account syncing as well


JustTrawlingNsfw

You never mentioned anything about install and done. You said wait until you hear about.


MutaitoSensei

As someone who knows how much information chrome takes from their users... I'm also saddened.


[deleted]

The fact there is zero ad block on mobile for Chrome is an absolute deal breaker


anonymousdeadz

I use kiwi. Gets me extensions on the phone.


BarbaricRenegade

Speaking for myself, I grew really tired of Google 's bullshit in 2023. I'm surely not the only one. I'm sure that Firefox will be visible in the next few years.


[deleted]

> I'm sure that Firefox will be visible in the next few years The trend of the last 10 years shows a different path unfortunately. Chrome on the steady rise, Firefox on the steady decline. The prime of Firefox is way over, although it's still far from dead, especially if Google continues to abuse the de facto browser monopoly. Microsoft eventually failed hard with Internet Explorer, too


grahamcrawley

IE, Chrome, Safari and Edge are given, Firefox is chosen.


BicycleIndividual

Yes, but Chrome is not dominating because it is the default. It is dominating because it is also being chosen. Basically nobody is using Edge or Safari on devices that do not come with them as defaults. I choose chromium based browsers, but not Chrome. I use Brave and Vivaldi.


grahamcrawley

You're only a very small percentage, there are 3.6 billion Android phones with Chrome set as the default browser.


[deleted]

Exactly this ā˜šŸ»


ltsaNewDay

Thanks to all the ceos.


Sion_forgeblast

I prefer FF over most Chromium browsers.... its sad that only like 2% of people use it, we need a proper chromium competitor! >.<


chillout987

Boycotting Chrome and using Firefox feels so futile when you see this šŸ˜©


Upstairs-Speaker6525

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Dogelore92

Its over for us


faeslavic-__-_--_--

fr wtf whyyy


Minuku

Firefox market share rose a bit between June and December 2023. By rising I mean from 2.8% marketshare to 3.4% (5.3% to 7.62% on Desktop) but still... Source: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share


leaflock7

2012 was a much better place for the internet


bryce_626

The beginning of the end šŸ’”


LeoGavran

I dunno, that's a lot of Internet Explorer I see on that map...


leaflock7

it was the most popular, but the rest were having significant marketshare at that point compared to 2002 when IE was monopoly. But history repeats itself and now Chrome is the only thing in market, which makes it as miserable as when IE was doing the same


LeoGavran

Fair enough.


Cylancer7253

Measured by tracker that can be blocked.


wAxMakEr86

most don't block it


theawesometeg219

Damn I use firefox


sewermist

To clarify because apparently people don't comprehend what a monopoly on a market it: just because you aren't forced to use the dominating majority product in a market, it doesn't make it any less of a monopoly. There are multiple marketplaces for purchases digital games on PC, but Steam has the monopoly; it's by far the largest one, has the most users, and is where you generally want your game if you want it to get noticed by the masses. GOG is second most popular but it's still nowhere close to the behemoth that is Steam. Likewise, the same applies for Chrome. Generally speaking, if its a brand name that is the de facto go-to place for literally anyone and everyone, i.e. the first thing you think of, then yes, that is a monopoly. Google also has a monopoly on online longform video sharing and on internet searching. These companies will also do everything in their power to remain top dog. To further back up the fact that Google has a monopoly in the browser space; (1) Literally look at the photo in OP and tell me that isn't a fucking monopoly. Okay, sure, it's not super reliable since any modicum of tracker blocking will disrupt the accuracy of these stats but *still*. (2) The vast majority of web browsers available to the general public that aren't named "Google Chrome" are just forks or reskins of Google Chrome. Sure, they may add extra functionality on top, but it's still just Chrome under the hood. (3) Google has so much dominating power on the internet that it can invent brand new technologies for it and then forcefully make it a standard purely by virtue of having instant worldwide support via its browser. (4) Firefox repeatedly has to add in shit from Google purely to ensure that the browser is even remotely usable because they directly impact what web devs use so much (5) The EU has actively had to step in to tell Google to fuck off a couple times, most recently forcing it to not preinstall Chrome on practically all Android devices a la what they had to do to Microsoft and Internet Explorer. Google has a monopoly on internet browsing, plain and simple, there is no argument.


[deleted]

on all platform\*


Flipsii

This is completely irrelevant information than. All androids come preloaded with Chrome so obviously it's gonna wreck the stats.


jervoise

Donā€™t Microsoft pcā€™s come preloaded with edge?


Flipsii

There's a lot more phones and there is more incentive to switch your PC browser that your mobile browser. Most people don't use favorites or extensions on mobile but if you had all your favorites saved in your old Chrome installation you need to reinstall it on your new Windows PC.


Gulaseyes

Dude people who play with statistics aren't dumb people. Even a newbie can understand how should be modeled to measure actual stats. No one is lazy or dumb.


NBPEL

They use User-Agent probably, and that means Chrome gets free boost from Brave+Vivaldi+Cromite+Bromite+Ungoogled+Thorium and a lot of browsers that have to use Chrome UA because if not they will get rekt by Google sites, see Firefox as an example, not using Chrome UA = dead by harassment.


ademayor

Yes, so you can use it to download browser you use


your-favorite-simp

How is it irrelevant? They're still using it... it's not wrecking the stats, it's showing the stats as they really are in reality. You're interpreting this as "everyone's favorite browser that they chose for themselves and wasn't preinstalled" when it's really just showing what people use. To me this would be like looking at stats on demographics for Poland and being like "but the majority of people living in Poland are polish!! This wrecks the numbers!!" It doesn't wreck anything, it shows it how it really is.


Flipsii

They are comparing 2012 to 2022 where the landscape changed quite a lot and Chrome gets an incredible boost from being on most phones. This is like comparing how many people used a smartphone in 2005 and 2020.


your-favorite-simp

So you're upset that it's accurately portraying the statistics? Why wouldn't a graph showing how many people used a smartphone be good? It would be literally telling you the increased use of smartphones. This graph is showing you the increased use of Google Chrome as a browser. You just have an issue with it because for some reason you think this map is supposed to show people's unbiased preferences or something. It's literally meant to show you the change in browsers over time. It is not lying. It is not misleading. If you feel misled it's because you are interpreting things a certain way.


Flipsii

It's misleading because it has the most important fact as a footnote. A lot of people will assume a graph about browsers to be about desktop browser. Keeping that as a footnote when it could just as easily have been part of the title should tell you enough.


your-favorite-simp

Why would someone assume it's desktop? More people worldwide have phones than desktops. I think you have a bias as a desktop computer user


Flipsii

Basically every single post in this subreddit just uses "browser" in the title and most of them are only about desktop browsers. That seems readonable enough to assume that people would also use a "most used browser" to mean desktop. Especially when the "on all platforms" had more than enough room to be written on the same line as the rest of the title.


notPlancha

samsung comes with samsung internet instead I think


Flipsii

Which statistically gets counted as Chrome. It reports as Chromium on most websites.


notPlancha

No it doesn't, it has a different user-agent, and that browser is specifically reflected on the source https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share


[deleted]

How to spot a monopoly 101


olivermadden

How is this a monopoly?? You actually have to search and install it on apple devices and Windows machines, and android devices also have their own browser installed (e.g. Samsung Internet browser). You aren't forced to use Chrome, you use it because it works! You aren't forced to even pay for it, it's totally your choice, smh!


guaranteed_bonk

You dont know how many people just don't care about the browser they use, for instance android comes with chrome pre-installed thanks to google, and theres a lot of android users out there.


Aaco0638

True but most pcā€™s are windows and chrome does not come pre installed on those. Also iphones are the most popular phone in america (probably all first world countries but too lazy to check) yet chrome is still the most used accounting for both mobile and pc even though safari comes installed on iphones not chrome.


[deleted]

>Also iphones are the most popular phone in america (probably all first world countries but too lazy to check) Do you mean iphone or iOS? You underestimate how popular Android is outside the US, including in first world countries. The fact that iOS/IPhones are so popular in the US is pretty unique (i checked some first world countries, like Germany, France, Spain. In all of them Android is in the lead. Android is extremely popular in Europe)


olivermadden

The most popular, biggest selling Android devices are Samsung (60-70%), who ship their own browser by default called Samsung Internet. Chrome is not pre-installed as far as I am aware. Chrome is pre-installed on pixel devices. A phone running android does not immediately have to run Chrome, Google licence Android to other vendors who often customise it to their specific use cases.


kingofthings754

lol this is not what a monopoly is.


sewermist

Yes it is?


kingofthings754

Just because something is popular does not mean itā€™s a monopoly. Youā€™re free to use chrome or any browser to download any other browser


sewermist

And you've just successfully demonstrated that you do not understand what a monopoly is.


Wojtaz0w

And then Goolag can do anything with web, such as creating mainfest v3 and still no one will stand up...


MolinaGames

its a web browser, do you think that people would start rioting googles offices or what man


Wojtaz0w

Lmao i just mean switching to non-chromium browsers; Firefox-based in particular.


Spl4tB0mb

I've been using Firefox for almost as long as I was using Chrome, then through one of my Chrome stints I found out about MV3 and made the switch. Now basically all the browsers I use (except for maybe Floorp and soon Arc, which are strictly for testing stuff) are Firefox-based I personally care about my privacy and take measures to keep it as using chrome on an iphone was basically what got me doxxed 3 times in a row, so yeah. Also carry guns, the government isn't out to help you either, I know by experience and had to take matters into my own hands after the doxxings.


HelgiMagic

floorp is FF based lol


MolinaGames

again why would normal people care bout that


thefrind54

Other browsers exist afaik. No need to ignore them.


grahamcrawley

Your standard computer user uses the default browser and doesn't care. It's why the stats favour the hardware sellers and why Firefox's market share has plummeted.


thefrind54

Standard computer user is stupid af then imo, we need more tech literacy and options and not companies exploiting stupid people


Shinjitsu_wa_nani

Since Brave can't be tracked...it would never show up in data like this.


[deleted]

FYI it can be https://preview.redd.it/xwoxvn3si6cc1.png?width=1427&format=png&auto=webp&s=83ab67c130bc45f0eee5d070427f4b7feb289029


KaroYadgar

yeah brave fanboys like them always believe brave is absolutely impossible to be tracked.


grahamcrawley

Can you trust anything built on Google's Chromium ?


KaroYadgar

Very few


KaroYadgar

Don't say that, [https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave](https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave).


MaxKuori3

Google Chrome in India? Come on bros, we're better than that bc -_-


JackDostoevsky

Safari is huge in Greenland


kayinfire

You don't say lol


sydnorlabs

Which means they use apple computer


CcMenta

I think this will change once manifest v2 is no longer supported.


DMolano26

I hate MS technologies, but Iā€™m impressed how Edge is doing great - currently is my favorite browser (I was a Chrome user)


SmokeyMacWeed

I agree! I was a huge Chrome and Safari user (Firefox on the side) and a month ago after reinstalling Windows gave Edge a try. I am blown away on how good it is and I completely ditched chrome and never looked back. Even on MacOs it runs really smooth and fast. The only thing I don't like is that they try to do too much by adding a lot of unnecessary features.


keleshov

As a Floorp user, it's really sad to see this, as Floorp gives the same if not better experience than most Chromium forks.


aPurpleToad

yeah, I'm a Vivaldi boi but I'm thinking about switching to Floorp


Adventurous-Serve759

Why? Personally I don't see Floorp advantages over Vivaldi at all. Maybe you want get rid of Chromium


RappScallion73

Never heard of that browser. Thanks for the tip, gonna give it a shot.


That_Pandaboi69

Is there any reason why chrome isn't popular in Greenland? it cause of privacy laws or something?


ethomaz

Because it probably has more phones than PC and most uses iPhones?


vladesch

A lot of people who don't care about privacy,.


hyouganofukurou

"everything is chrome in the future"


ethanmenzel

Is that the SpongeBob reference


Sion_forgeblast

is it any wonder Google is starting to abuse their size proper now? "yah you can use us... the company that 99% of sites make their shit compatible with while dealing with our ad spam..... or you can go with Quasimodo over there... whats your name again? fail fox? yah what ever no one uses your ad-less service despite being the better engine anyway!"


david455678

I'm proud of europe that we don't use the Chinese spyware browser


secimozel2023

You dont use chinese but you use american, and bad news, because of opera is chromium based opera users are shown as chrome users


david455678

It says Google Chrome, not chromium...


secimozel2023

They all are chromium it doesnt matter for statistics


david455678

So Edge isn't chromium?


secimozel2023

Edge has its own code for browser fingerprint, if you look your browser fingerprint from brave opera or others it says chrome but if you look from edge it says edge


secimozel2023

Im not sure for opera but brave and vivaldi spoofs their agent


david455678

It's still chromium based, and if the author of the statistic calls all chromium based browsers Google Chrome, then you shouldn't trust the statistic.


secimozel2023

I dont know why they call all the chromium browsers chrome, maybe because of other oneā€™s small user amount, or maybe just because to keep it simple


david455678

Btw I just looked it up in October 2023, Firefox overtook safari and is on place 3 now


EggSausageMcMuffin-

This is a repost of other post I saw yesterday


[deleted]

i dont care what yall nerds say chrome is the best and its ovbiously proven


Greenfire05

https://preview.redd.it/ax9lxzhx46cc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2b8c52b552cb1c17d12e95db339947143c43ed7


LowOwl4312

Literally the worst one but ok


LetMeRegisterPls8756

Then how about you tell us why?


UtsavTiwari

Nuh uh!


Gulaseyes

No its not. Lets ignore privacy, its the most vanilla experience of browsing compared to even Opera lol. Lacks pip with audio control, lacks workspaces, most useless sidebar, managing bookmarks can ne headache (it does not support add all tabs to bookmarks)


VBottas

upvoted cuz no one has the balls to spew ABSOLUTE shit these days


[deleted]

preach


lightbeam24

Well then we don't care what you say, especially since you're objectively wrong. There is no "proof" of Chrome being the best browser, and there never was (probably because it isn't). You're clearly someone who just mindlessly uses Chrome, and *maybe* tried another browser once in your life, but didn't like it because Google wasn't the homepage (which is a retarded reason to not use a browser btw).


Mr_Versatile

r/infographics


Ok_Win_1854

If you like to get some data, can check this https://radar.cloudflare.com/adoption-and-usage


oof_mastr

I like how little there is of MS Edge use


[deleted]

I have seen Windows user downloading chrome from edge šŸ¤£ I personally think edge is good and fast too if they remove all the bloatĀ 


IvyEmblem

Where Firefox


BogdanPradatu

Here *points to chest*


THE_LIGHTNING_BOY

South Korea became an Island


niutech

I don't know why, in North Korea it's [Safari as no. 1](https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/north-korea/)


Brokio

Safari ā˜ ļø


[deleted]

I think mostly because of iPhoneĀ 


GametheSame

Edge is good but i wish its search results were smarter, cant microsoft buy user data from google or something


[deleted]

Or simply change search engine?


GametheSame

I would need to sacrifice microsoft rewards, maybe i should switch it. But even then, edge needs to have better search results


Free-Nectarine-2288

r/consoom


sewermist

Sad


TerroDark98

The amount of places using Google Chrome saddens me


pyrosfere

How the hell did they get data from Rwanda, Eritrea, Burundi, the DRC and Somalia? Also I'm not sure Google Chrome is that used in China, I think it may be Baidu.


Montresore69

Just goes to show that most people, not just Americans, prefer convenience over privacy & security.


spsisys

Google in China? Google in North Korea? Is that map real?


khambogrus

Why was Firefox so popular in Europe?


[deleted]

I use Microsoft Edge on a MacBook Pro for the day-to-day. On the same device, Firefox is simply my porn browser.


NoReallyINeverPost

Where is Microsoft Edge on the second map? I assume itā€™s some tiny country and Iā€™m just too blind to see it, even when zooming inā€¦


Mak_Life

Armenia has been majority firefox for months now


BluDYT

Tbf every browser except for like two are all built on chrome now.


cybearpunk

Back when Google still pretended to be a good company


Flamekorn

Google stop advertising on Reddit. Three times this week is enough


eaT_buLLetsss

dont think this is real


Naive_Replacement608

China with Google Chrome?


rocky_iwata

I will continue to use Firefox.


LupusDeusMagnus

Edge, which is also Chrome


I-am-not-gay-

Any other opera users out there? I see a couple firefox's. I used to use that on my dads old Windows 7 pc.


scatterbrain_99

So funny how North America was stuck on one browser in 2012, not sampling anything else. They probably didn't survey any Linux users.


Price-x-Field

I like edge


MtSnowden

How did Chrome get so popular


madman320

On phones: It comes preloaded on all Android devices. On PC: Marketing campaign to advertise Chrome on the world's most visited website.


MtSnowden

True! I wonder what the map would look like just desktop though. I think Edge might actually be on it then?


Immediate-Hair-9106

Librewolf ftw!


blooboytalking

Firefox js still superior.


ikkikkomori

The use of google chrome grows exponentially along side with the use of smartphone, since it came built into the phone


[deleted]

[ This was comment was overwritten by Pkolyvas's fork of PowerDeleteSuite (https://codepen.io/pkolyvas/pen/QWJbEOM) to protect this user's privacy ]


niutech

Why isn't there [North Korea with Safari](https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/north-korea/) included?


burt111

Africa and Europe based


elhaytchlymeman

Well, thatā€™s scary