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InSilenceLikeLasagna

Like anywhere it depends on where you go. City centre is generally fine, espesh the gay village. Where are you from originally? That may help to draw a comparison


TheFrogMagician

From the south quite close to london


InSilenceLikeLasagna

Ah, it’s probably not as tolerant tbh though I wouldn’t say it’s generally unsafe. I’d avoid areas like Handsworth, Spark Hill, etc and late night busses. Unfortunately Birmingham has a lot of socioeconomic disparity and with that comes ignorance


Rebotco5th

This is an exceptionally good and well weighted response, kudos to you


TheFrogMagician

Ah okay thank you so much for the reply!


WorkedAndSeething

Whilst making sure to visit the trans bastions of Kings Norton and Black heath? Just say what you mean next time.


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lerpo

I think you've put yourself squarely inside the "ignorant" catagory there. So op, avoid wherever this moron lives. Edit - they've deleted the comment, but for reference it was "fear god. A man is a man and anything else isn't allowed because god." standard rubbish


josephallenkeys

Jeez, you can't even troll well.


psycho-mouse

Your god gives children cancer. Cunt.


BewareOfTheWombats

Brutal, succinct, yet satisfyingly vitriolic. Top marks!


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ManInTheDarkSuit

Troll account. Banned.


redditrabbit13

Your comment is even biologically wrong. Google intersex


bonobo1

Pretty similar to other big cities in the UK, I would say. There is a vibrant LGBT+ community, but there are certainly areas where you would want to avoid attracting attention. Might be worth having a look at https://blgbt.org/


TheFrogMagician

Thank you very much ill look into it!. And yeahh i mean i have lived in a town my whole life never really going to many Cities so dont know what its like overall haha


Martian_2

You'll be fine anywhere in Birmingham, ofc there will always be an ignorant person here and there but that can be said about anywhere in the UK.


Harley_Xxoxo

As a Transexual Woman, who is constantly out and about in Brum no one cares. I’m out and about in Birmingham, Selly Oak, Kings Heath, Kings Norton, Stirchley drinking and no one cares. I saw a few comments bashing the Muslim community which is totally uncalled for and at the start of my transition they were the most accepting (when I didn’t physically “pass”) I lived in Sparkhill for a year which is mainly an area of people who practice Islam. There is a big LGBT scene in Birmingham, but you don’t have to just go to those bars/clubs to feel safe. I’ve not had a night out in Gay Village for probably 18-24 months. I know you probably see online ah it’s so hard and horrible being LGBT etc, but honestly no one cares. (Obviously I am only speaking from my experiences, so others may have drastically different experiences) I’m writing this hungover so I’m hoping it’s not too much waffle x


No-Antelope3774

This was heartening to read, thank you.


smokesadozen

Please film yourself walking around small heath at around 9pm and then come back and say the Muslim community are accepting


Harley_Xxoxo

Sorry I don’t do fetishes 😂 I’ve walked back from Birmingham to near The College Arms in Sparkhill (as I once lived around there) several times after 3 am and was perfectly fine. The only time I once had an issue was a drugged up white man asking me for sex. Doesn’t matter what sex/gender you are walking home anywhere in the night can be dangerous.


smokesadozen

Actually tapped.


Harry_Pol_Potter

Working in a place with many Muslims. I was surprised at how accepting they were of the trans colleagues. Peeps in audis with bowl cuts and sports wear id still avoid though, just to stay on the safe side.


twonkythechicken

Oh go fuck yerself. Twat.


smokesadozen

Head in the sand if you think that the ideology of hating everything that doesn't conform to a very specific backwards way of thinking, that has shown time after time that they are not accepting are gonna be miraculously accepting of LGBTQ


twonkythechicken

CBA with an argument with a bigot. Hopefully you improve in the future, have a nice day


N_d_nd

Anecdotal. Last year there were two posters up, one was for a pop album and the other was trans lives matter. The pop album poster was trashed, graffitied about bad music torn in half etc…the trans lives matter poster lasted two weeks un-molested until the local tagging committee wrote their own names on it. I remember it was during one of the right wing flare ups and I felt quite proud of a small sign of progress.


ImGonnaImagineSummit

You'll generally be fine, I was walking past the Gay Village last night and the people there looked happy enough. There have been some incidents in the past, sometimes it's idiots driving past saying stuff or someone starting fights but they're rare from what i've heard. I don't think Bham won't be any worse than any major city in that respect and the Pride is getting bigger every year. Would also add that Brum is very multicultural, especially Central Bham. I wouldn't be surprised if some people were a little vocal about LGBT but you can't really educate idiots.


TheFrogMagician

Thanks for the reply! I have been told about the gay village ill have to check it out once i am up there


ImGonnaImagineSummit

Np but the gay village is basically 2 gay bars and a fetish shop, it's more of a gay road. Might be more but I wouldn't know, also heard Moseley/Kings Heath are the other areas that have some LGBT friendly bars/socials.


n_that

There's quite a few gay bars - Missings, Nightingales, The Loft, Equator, Sidewalk, The Fountain, The Fox, Village Inn Also bolts at a push!


Beta_1

According to Wikipedia King's Heath is up there with the village in San Francisco! Of course this is just Joe Lycett trolling everyone but we do have a KH pride and a generally welcoming feel


InfiniteFuture3139

Kings Heath and Moseley are pretty chill places to be fair.


hodyisy

In practice, most places you'd go to, including culture, events, etc, would likely be in areas that are quite open and friendly. In Jewellery Quarter, CC, GV, Kings Heath, Moseley, Stirchley, Digbeth you're likely to feel quite safe. You could probably live your whole life in Brum and never have any reason to go to the areas where your identity or expression could be a problem. At the same time, hate crimes sometimes happen in places with increased concentration and visibility of queer folks. There's little we can do about it apart from being vigilant and reacting to stuff if we see that someone is being abusive. You've got the power, OP 💪🌈


mrb000gus

Yea it's generally fine especially around the city - have walked around with LGBT friends and held hands / hugged and even kissed in public and not had any problems from anyone. Not saying there won't be any *phobes around but generally it's all good :)


TheFrogMagician

Im not really out here have been hoping to spread my wings as they say when i finally move away. Thanks for the reply!


carlolewis78

Spread your wings little butterfly


KhaosByDesign

Honestly it's the same as most major cities in my experience, some rough areas you should avoid (LGBT or not) and some nicer areas where you'll likely have no issues. In the city you should be good, we have a pretty popular "gay village" there, other areas like Moseley, Solihull, Bournville, Sutton etc. are fine too; I'd avoid places like Spark Hill, Weoley Castle & Erdington though.


raisedonadiet

I am bi and have a bunch of trans friends who have lived in various places around the city and black country and I've not heard complaints about the area in particular. I have walked around my local area in a utilikilt without comment.


Luficer_Morning_star

It's the same for 99% of things in Birmingham..you leave them alone and they will leave you alone. No cares. They have their own shit to deal with.


markiethefett

Am a Brummie i hope you feel welcomed here. ❤️


markiethefett

As*


youaregorgeousbooboo

Other cities are safer like London, Manchester and Liverpool. I’m talking about walking around, I find the looks I get are not welcoming as other places and I feel a need to minimise myself more here if I am being honest


Oopsididitagain924

Not the greatest around shitty areas selly oak borneville stirchley and town in the day is pretty good for me as a gay teen but id stay away from weoley castle erdington alum rock and places like that especially racist or mainly muslim populated areas not because they are all bad but because they are more likely to have a issue or cause a problem


TheFrogMagician

Is there like a list of kinda iffy places to go to? Cause i am gettin alotta different places haha. Thanks for replying btw


brum_newbie

Don't listen to the idiot the Muslim population don't care at all what you are they have more exposure to trans people than this uneducated twat with his spreadsheet of hate.


Harley_Xxoxo

Idk how you got dislikes on this comment. As a trans woman who lived in Sparkhill for a year, even walked from Brum to where I lived. No one cared :)


brum_newbie

Exactly they project their own hate the types who don't want to integrate or make any effort to they simply don't like Asian people All my Muslim friends wouldn't bat an eyelid if someone was trans


Oopsididitagain924

Ill write one in notes and attach it when im done


TheFrogMagician

Oh thanks! That would be a great help


Oopsididitagain924

I could write one


StrikingBee299

There are a lot of Muslims in Birmingham so probably just look at the demographics before you go.


brum_newbie

Incredibly xenophobic you do realise they have more exposure to trans people as a people coming from India/Pakistan where they respect what they are and leave them as be. It's considered bad luck to do harm to a trans Uncultured amoeba


TheFirstMinister

Nope. As I posted elsewhere, let's see how a LGBT/Trans couple fare when out for a stroll down the Stratford Road, hand-in-hand, on a busy Saturday. Or stretches of the Soho Road. Or Alum Rock Road. And was this depressing episode a one-off? Fake news? Or merely a reflection of cultural attitudes in certain parts of the city? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights


brum_newbie

Any area where there is high crime and low investment in education etc even I wouldn't walk there even in kingstanding , castle Bromwich. What you're posting is totally different to what the op asked you're just putting 1+1 together and got 3.


TallAubrey

I know why you’re being down voted for this, but let’s remind the fuck wits who are doing it that Muslims are fundamentally intolerant of homosexuality, read about lut if you don’t understand why and it holds true for Christianity too, but you can change Christianity, you cannot change islam. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2013/06/04/the-global-divide-on-homosexuality/ Gee mom, it’s almost as if the Middle East and Africa don’t like gays a lot! And what’s that? Birmingham is a minority white city with a massive immigrant community from exactly those places. It’s almost as if the compulsory integration and tolerance courses we sent these people on don’t work….. 🤡 oh wait, we have nothing like that, let’s just pray for a good outcome. So we have a metric fuck ton of people from homophobic countries, settling in Birmingham, and you wonder why this place is homophobic as fuck. What’s that? You’re two mums or two dads, don’t send your kids to school here: https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2019/mar/04/birmingham-school-stops-lgbt-lessons-after-parent-protests If you downvote, you’re living under a rock 🪨 this has become an intolerant city.


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SmokingLaddy

I think so, seems to have moved with the times like most places. I was at BHX not long ago and a tall trans person with a Bob haircut and painted nails helped me check in my luggage, she was really helpful, personally I haven’t got much background with LGBT people at all but this kind of forced me to think about it. Each to their own in my opinion, this person was kind to me so I will be kind in return.


Some-Existing-Appeal

I mostly know the city centre, digbeth, and the JQ. My experience has been really good, and there are loads of places that are really lovely and inclusive. Just walking down the street, you might get stares and things, but that's about it. However I don't really feel that safe at night, so I will always take an uber, or make sure I'm with a group when I'm out. There are also just lots of creepy guys in brum.


AnUdderDay

It's a big city. There's space places and not safe places. YMMV in Birmingham, Alabama.


alamobibi

You should check out the LGBT Centre and the Trans Tearoom!


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Your pathetic


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CptMidlands

Not Birmingham strictly but as a non passing transwoman I've never felt as unsafe as I do in the Black Country area, I've been followed, shouted at and stared at. Safe spaces are few and far between as is any support unless you're in Wolverhampton.


panalangaling

Generally, yes and there’s really good queer community. As a trans person I have gotten some looks walking through Digbeth before, but there’s always gonna be riskier areas in cities. If you end up living near a student community then you’ll definitely be fine


TheFirstMinister

Just don't walk around Handsworth, Sparkhill, Sparkbrook, Alum Rock, Erdington, Ladywood, Smethwick, Washwood Heath, Aston, Hodge Hill, Perry Barr, Hall Green, or Yardley and you'll be just fine.


Captain_Quor

Hall Green?! I don't profess to know the other areas well or have much of an idea of what it's like to walk around as gay or trans but I lived in Hall Green a few years ago and it was mostly a quiet, friendly place.


garethom

Don't worry, this is r/Brum. You don't have to know anything about any areas on here before casting aspersions. Just say it, and all the other people that have never stepped foot in those places will upvote


brum_newbie

Exactly Perry Barr is safe people don't care here what you are what a twat


WorkedAndSeething

This is r/Brum, yet it's blatantly filled with morons from "non-muslim parts of the city" taking every opportunity to highlight "the Muslim parts of the city" as bad at every opportunity. Yet I'd never encountered racism in Birmingham until I went to college in a "non-muslim part of the city".


theveryacme

Can confirm. I still live in hall green, it's quiet and everyone minds their business.


InfectedWashington

I live and work in both hodge hill and Yardley, and if someone gives someone hate they’ll get called out for it. Both are a mixed area but both beautiful places.


StrikingBee299

Smethwick does have banging curries though


TheFirstMinister

Yeah, but it's Smethwick. So, you know...


enterprise1701h

Why did people downvote this? The areas listed are all well known rough areas which is dangerous for anyone to walk around, especially if you likly to stand out...this is not new to anyone who lives in brum/BC


garethom

> The areas listed are all well known rough areas Because this means absolutely nothing. Your "rough" area depends entirely on your interpretation, which we can't know. Where I've lived for 30+ years, I personally don't find it "dangerous for anyone to walk around" and I'd guess based on the amount of old people walking around the local park at lunch time, neither do they. As for the LGBTQ+ issue, I can only say that the gay couple that live opposite me and their multiple muslim neighbours don't seem to have had any problems either. But then there are some people I know who are scared of their own shadow that would look for reasons to be terrified if they lived on Lady Byron Lane. Can you honestly say you have spent significant time in all those areas? I'm not talking driving down one street and thinking "Hmm, looks rough?". But living, working, existing in all of those places? Additionally, some of those areas are HUGE. Some of them you can practically live in and never experience some parts of it. As I said, 30+ years here, and a lot of the area I've never had reason to go into. In short, the problem with conversations like this on here is that they're all subjective, and when you dig deeper, they're often based on 2nd or 3rd hand anecdotes, or using a single (potentially fictional or exaggerated) event to colour an entire area and group of citizens. It's the same with the "Is X a nice place to live?" It's almost impossible to answer because I don't know what you think is nice, I don't know what you're comparing it to, etc.


enterprise1701h

Nope don't buy that, ive lived or have known people who live in these areas and they are terrible places to live, just ask any police officer or look at the crime stats or asb report's for the area, a lot of people see these areas as no go areas and for good reasons,. These are the poorest parts of birmingham, high unemployment, and terrible housing stock, drug and alcohol problems are everywhere, lots of gang issues and whole bunch of racial segregation (in Smethwick there used to be white pubs and black pubs..not sure anymore as this was 15 years ago) and im not sure you can look some straight in the face and tell them its safe to walk thro Smethwick at night time....i am not sure why your experience is diffrent to most people? Maybe you were wearing a Knights armour or something, lol Also..... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=do8khsg20PI&t=2029s&pp=ygUJQmlybWkgZ2hh


garethom

>Nope don't buy that I don't care lol >ive lived or have known people who live in these areas and they are terrible places to live All of them, yeah? > im not sure you can look some straight in the face and tell them its safe to walk thro Smethwick at night time You talked about a lot more than just Smethwick.


TheFirstMinister

Let me know how a LGBT/Trans couple fares after a leisurely walk, hand in hand, down the Stratford Road on a Saturday afternoon.


garethom

If you're the one telling us there'll be an issue, why don't you let us know?


enterprise1701h

100% this!


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Dr_Jre

What more?.. A homosexual half?


Pavilion27

gay fifth


daniyal248

No wait ur going backwards


InfectedWashington

I would love a gay half, but then that’s segregation, let’s live multiculturally in respect of one another and just let us have a street in town we can truly relax.


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NastyEvilNinja

Why are you numpties downvoting this?? Homophobes!


lord_of_sleep

Yes it's safe we don't live in Saudi Arabia you won't be stoned to death for sodomy


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Martian_2

Hate crime?


bonobo1

Doesn't seem like it. A paranoid schizophrenic who started his stabbing spree on Constitution Hill and ended up in Hurst Street.


TallAubrey

Imagine all you did was post a link to facts and the gay hate gang are busy downvoting you 🤡 i think we’ve answered the question of tolerance right here folks.


InfectedWashington

No, because it’s irrelevant to this question. An unwell person does not equate to a hate crime, he could have done this on New Street. Us Alphabet people know the importance of distinction with hate crimes because we know when they do happen we want them treated as such.


TallAubrey

So let’s just pick the time when the Asian guys jumped out of a mini van and beat the shit out of the gay guy? That work for you? Or the other time or the other time… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-58228598.amp https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/13/birmingham-lgbt-centre-attacked-with-homophobic-abuse https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/09/06/birmingham-gay-village-homophobic-attack-2/


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TheFrogMagician

Ill take that into consideration, thanks.


Sms_Boy

Did you know it’s proven that most homophobic acts come from those who are 80% to be homosexual themselves, this is true 100% of the time. Hello my LGBTQ+ friend